SE Chess

I have pychess but it seems to load the CPU excessively, even without the background evaluation tab. I used to use xboard but by now the UI feels somewhat outdated. I'm looking for good FICS integration rather than engines or analysis tools.

Unihedron

@ByteCommander askubuntu.com/suggested-edits/80473

YES! It works!

Byte Commander

7:58 AM

@Unihedron I would rather add the github link than replace the google-code link. It still is active.

@uni I changed your edit: askubuntu.com/a/191886/367990

Unihedron

@ByteCommander The Google Code repository for raptor is already discontinued.

Byte Commander

But at least the documentation is only there. That's even stated on github, which seems to be an unofficial repository anyway...

Therefore I added the footnote.

You already installed Raptor? How does it look?

Unihedron

First PR in Raptor after github migration! github.com/evilwan/raptor-chess-interface/…

Is there a friend system for FICS? @ProgramFOX

ProgramFOX

not that I'm aware of

Unihedron

I've found "follow" though

Whoa!

This team has an awesome intra-tournament system.

Byte Commander

8:22 AM

@Unihedron Do I really have to build Raptor myself? I am so much not in the mood for this...

Unihedron

@ByteCommander there are jars in the release page

Byte Commander

From 2013.

Unihedron

github.com/evilwan/raptor-chess-interface/releases

@ByteCommander 5 days ago

Byte Commander

Ah... Well, my github-fu is still improvable ;)

@Unihedron >.< No 32 bit...

Unihedron

... 32-bit systems are deprecated already, aren't they? >_>

Byte Commander

8:26 AM

I don't care, I have one! That's everything that counts at the moment. :P

Besides, I don't think so.

Unihedron

wow

I've placed a seek for a game with standard-1min, but no one saw it

Your seek has been posted with index 43.
(0 player(s) saw the seek.)

This must be a really popular chess server

Byte Commander

I'm trying eboard from the repo now...

Unihedron

I'm watching some people with "(50)" next to their names shout and gossip about soccer and husbands in public

while waiting for my bullet game to be picked up

Byte Commander

@Unihedron I should be online on FICS now through eboard...

This terminal interface to FICS is awful... :P

Unihedron

8:42 AM

what's your username?

Byte Commander

What you would expect.

ByteCommander

Unihedron

use "play Unihedron" to join my seeking game of crazyhouse 5+0

I'm not sure how you'd play without a GUI though

(it's unrated, so you can try it out)

Byte Commander

It is a GUI board, but the player seeking/matching is CLI-style.

Unihedron

oh cool, mine is too

Byte Commander

How did you start the crazyhouse game?

(command)?

Unihedron

8:47 AM

seek 5 0 zh u f

Byte Commander

And what means zh u f?

Unihedron

You're asking me?!

Byte Commander

zh=crazyhouse, u=unrated, f=?

Of course I ask you!

Who else should I ask?

Unihedron

match ByteCommander unrated 5 0 crazyhouse
Match request does not fit formula for ByteCommander:
ByteCommander's formula: (blitz || standard) && !abuser

........

Byte Commander

I did not set anything yet...

I guess it's default to only accept standard games.

Unihedron

8:52 AM

Tell me when you decide to seek a game, then I'll join you.

Byte Commander

@uni index 84

Unihedron

play ByteCommander
Match request does not fit formula for ByteCommander:
ByteCommander's formula: (blitz || standard) && !abuser
play 84
Match request does not fit formula for ByteCommander:
ByteCommander's formula: (blitz || standard) && !abuser

lol

Byte Commander

F#ck you FICS!

>:P

Unihedron

Ignoring (formula): ByteCommander (----) Unihedron (----) rated crazyhouse 2 12.

Byte Commander

@Unihedron Run set formula !abuser

That should stop the auto-blocking.

Unihedron

8:59 AM

done

Byte Commander

YAY! :D

Unihedron

scholar's mate?!

Byte Commander

Just idiot.

(me.)

A break please...

Unihedron

oh wow, I figured out how to pause on the last second

Byte Commander

xD

Ouch...

Unihedron

9:11 AM

There's a +12 second increment, you'll live :P

I can't figure out how to add time though

Byte Commander

command "moretime"

And I have to run "unpause" before I can play on, so that's tricky within 1 second...

Unihedron

You just got a minute up!

Byte Commander

eboard is buggy... :(

good game!

Unihedron

gg

rematch!

Byte Commander

You'r gonna lose again! ;D

How to castle?

It doesn't work...

Oh, the bishop...

sure.

Unihedron

9:24 AM

@ByteCommander Sure. :P

Byte Commander

\o/

Unihedron

Ugh. :P

Rematch?

Byte Commander

I like crazyhouse more and more... :D Of course!

Unihedron

I've calculated a win and made sure you won't be quick enough. :P

Byte Commander

Hey, that's against the rules!

I thought one can't drop into checkmate

Unihedron

9:31 AM

No, that's only in shogi.

Byte Commander

>:P

Unihedron

23 hours ago, by Unihedron

> Drops resulting in immediate checkmate are permitted. Unlike in shogi, this includes pawn drops.[2]
Pawns may not be dropped on the players' 1st or 8th ranks.[2]
Promoted but captured pawns are dropped as pawns.[2]

Byte Commander

Oh well...

Hey that rating calculation is unfair too!

I won two games and lost one. But Your rating is now higher than mine! :(

1730 (you) vs 1710 (me)...

Unihedron

@ByteCommander That's because my win was of better performance than both your two wins combined.

{Game 162 (redbliss vs. Unihedron) redbliss forfeits on time} 0-1

Lightning rating adjustment: 0 --> 1853
Performance(lightning 1 game(s)): 2024
Series(redbliss): 1.0/1
Average Move Time(you/opponent): 1.9sec/2.2sec
Premoves(you/opp): 3/0

YES

Byte Commander

Sure.

Unihedron

9:39 AM

I so thought I was losing... both on time and material

Byte Commander

It's probably just that before the last game, I had ~ 1900 and you 1500.

Unihedron

then the player took too long to think and they lost on time lol

Byte Commander

Oh, and @Unihedron: did you check oratio-slack recently?

Gabriel is pretty pissed off by you...

You're going to get fired if you don't show more effort and respect deadlines.

Unihedron

@ByteCommander Nope

Byte Commander

You should do this then...

Unihedron

9:42 AM

@ByteCommander It's not my responsibility to run by deadlines that I've shown clear disconsent against.

Byte Commander

Don't discuss that with me, I am not the team manager.

But I agree with Gabriel somehow...

Unihedron

I didn't plan, insist, bother, or have to discuss it with you, really.

Byte Commander

Why are you always so grumpy and egoistic?

I sometimes really don't understand what's going on inside your head...

Unihedron

@ByteCommander An answer would be too long for this format.

By "this format", I mean this medium of communication via text in your Earth language.

Byte Commander

Oh, 500 characters per post is pretty much, especially as you can write as many posts as you want.

Oh.

Slow chat...

Anyway, you should really behave a bit more altruistic.

Unihedron

9:49 AM

@ByteCommander Plaintext answer would consume at least 5TB.

Byte Commander

I have enough time to download...

;)

Unihedron

Reading it is another matter.

Plus, my keyboard won't survive that many keystrokes.

Byte Commander

You need a new one because of your ants anyway, don't you?

Unihedron

@ByteCommander This "advice" coming from you really cuts off the effectiveness.

Byte Commander

Why? o.O

I am not behaving like an asshat, at least not online.

Unihedron

9:51 AM

That has nothing to do with altruism.

Byte Commander

I fear this dialogue leads to nothing except both of us being upset...

However, you are still the 2nd team leader of oratio.io, so you should definitely show a bit more responsibility.

You can't expect your team to work if you don't do it yourself.

Unihedron

@ByteCommander I'm not upset at all, I'm just disappointed.

Byte Commander

Disappointed by what?

I am not deeply involved into the oratio team yet, but I really don't see any reason why you should be disappointed.

Unihedron

@ByteCommander It's not really my team. In fact, Oratio has to be the most poorly organized team out of all the current circles I'm in [who works on projects]. Firstly, integrations are subpar and project management is done in a chat room (that doesn't even keep archived logs!) Secondly, despite being one of the founders, I'm not even alerted, consulted or notified when someone new joins the crew. I'm not sure how you infer at all any responsibility on my end.

@ByteCommander By how you misuse the word "altruistic" and criticize me with it? :P

Byte Commander

Okay, so but then if you don't want to be a team leader or member at all, you should state this and leave!

Unihedron

10:00 AM

@ByteCommander I'm indifferent mostly.

It's not like I have to be active to be part of a project.

Byte Commander

I just know that people without motivation in important positions destroy the project.

One should expect the leaders to be... leading.

Unihedron

@ByteCommander That's only your opinion. Additionally, "important" is relative when it comes to projects.

Byte Commander

So why do you think you should keep that position if you don't want it?

Unihedron

@ByteCommander Expectations are confronted by cruel reality most of the time.

@ByteCommander I'm not sure how you convey that I didn't want it.

2 mins ago, by Unihedron

@ByteCommander I'm indifferent mostly.

Byte Commander

3 mins ago, by Unihedron

@ByteCommander It's not really my team. In fact, Oratio has to be the most poorly organized team out of all the current circles I'm in [who works on projects]. Firstly, integrations are subpar and project management is done in a chat room (that doesn't even keep archived logs!) Secondly, despite being one of the founders, I'm not even alerted, consulted or notified when someone new joins the crew. I'm not sure how you infer at all any responsibility on my end.

Unihedron

10:03 AM

Continue?

Byte Commander

Okay, if it was my team, I would gather all members together and restructure the whole crap.

Everybody says what he can and want to do and the whole team democratically decides.

Unihedron

Tell Gabriel that, it's his team. I only participate in it with a title "Lead R&D" (and you should research what R&D means before you claim my responsibilities)

Byte Commander

It does not work with this old structures.

You don't wanna know how much I am researching during this conversation...

Unihedron

I'm tempted to just say that your research efforts are futile, but that would be extremely sad.

oratio.io/humans.txt

> Co-founder, CTO and Lead R&D.

and the other day I wrote a legal document :P

Byte Commander

I hate those C-level abbreviations...

More research effort >:P

I don't really know why you guys are that stuck with your c-levels and positions anyway.

In my opinion a team of (how many? 10?) people should not need that much hierarchy.

Unihedron

10:09 AM

@ByteCommander I wholeheartedly agree.

Byte Commander

A team needs a leader that controls the progress and tells where it has to go, while the rest should operate at an equal level.

That's my experience with teamwork.

And we would need a better progress documentation.

Trello is useless.

Unihedron

Now you know why this team is the most poorly organized compared to all the other teams I'm in.

It's not just a relative matter.

Byte Commander

I know that it is not optimal, but that's why it needs strong leader(s) to guide it back to the right path.

And you won't help by ignoring every task.

Unihedron

I'm not a leader. Additionally, I've only ignored 45% of the tasks, which is very little.

Byte Commander

O.O Your definition of little is pretty arguable...

And as co-founder and C(whatever 2 letters), you are also pretty much kind of a leader.

Unihedron

10:13 AM

CTO, chief tech officer.

@ByteCommander Your definition of "pretty much" is scary.

Byte Commander

You are administrator of most or all groups belonging to the team too.

Can't we have a serious discussion?

Unihedron

@ByteCommander That's part of the 45% of tasks that I've done - to administrate occasionally.

@ByteCommander This discussion is very serious.

Byte Commander

Without leaving the topic and having you bring up your death-punch arguments?

Okay, I'll link this conversation to Gabriel in Slack and will ask him to strongly reorganize the group.

But you will have to participate then!

This is the chance to re-shape the organization.

If we do it, you have no better time to improve it as you want than then.

Unihedron

@ByteCommander I haven't left the topic once aside from making meta-commentary.

Byte Commander

Maybe not now, but you tend to do this.

I don't know.

I forget arguments as soon as they're over.

Unihedron

10:35 AM

It's hard to be an editor

Unihedron

10:46 AM

OMG

lichess.org/3HJFUiWZakJY I gotta checkmate with two knights

ProgramFOX

Can you even force checkmate with 2 knights?

Unihedron

Even if it is, I'm too bad for it

drew -_-

Hi @AngusAtkinson!

Andrew

11:09 AM

@ProgramFOX two knights is a draw with best play, but it's possible for someone to hang mate in one

Unihedron

Two knights endgame

The two knights endgame is a chess endgame with a king and two knights versus a king, possibly with some other material. The material with the defending king is usually one pawn, but some positions studied involve additional pawns or other pieces. In contrast to a king plus two bishops (on opposite-colored squares), or a bishop and a knight, a king and two knights cannot force checkmate against a lone king. (However, the superior side can force stalemate.) Although there are checkmate positions, the superior side cannot force them against proper (and easy) defense (Speelman, Tisdall & Wade 1993...

Oh, only in some positions

KBN v K is force checkmate though

I made us a team on Challonge! challonge.com/teams/se-chess

Byte Commander

I see no reason why I would need this...

Unihedron

Me neither.

Byte Commander

11:25 AM

>.<

ProgramFOX

@Andrew I see, thanks!

Unihedron

bongclouding in rated bullet lichess.org/NflJuo1tG0tF

checkmated yay!

something about bongcloud gives me unknown strength

I won again! lichess.org/sfx3DcnwNc7P

I should stop before I lose my hard(ly) earned rating.

Unihedron

11:47 AM

Unihedron

12:01 PM

I made a Facebook page for the bongcloud opening, since it doesn't have one! facebook.com/bongcloud

Unihedron

12:42 PM

Bongcloud Game - Symmetrical Line

Seth

1:25 PM

@Unihedron I have 5 minutes if you want to work on our game

user43095

@Unihedron on mobile, the new lichess beta is pretty neat.

Unihedron

@Seth gg :)

bongcloud ftw!

Seth

gg

The bongcloud is stupid though

Unihedron

no it's not

Unihedron

3:28 PM

??? I won a losing game lichess.org/kLP4oYVoRAso

ProgramFOX

4:39 PM

Bongcloud Attack tournament! en.lichess.org/tournament/H8to2BQ9

cc @Uni

Unihedron

What?!

ProgramFOX

thematic tourney

I really need to fix my blitz rating as it kinda sucks now xD

Unihedron

I won!

I lost against the tournament leader! Oh no!

thibault is playing xD

ProgramFOX

5:03 PM

Okay, I lost the three games I played so far...

anyway my tourney got popular, lol

eh I lost my 4th game too

... and my 5th game

Unihedron

my 33% winrate rule has got a nerf! My winrate is now higher!

Wait, that'd be a buff, not a nerf

ProgramFOX

5:19 PM

I lost all my games -_-

Unihedron

:(

So sorry >_>

Hey, guess what?

Maybe you should learn normal chess as well instead of only focusing on atomic. xD

ProgramFOX

...

Thanks for the suggestion, my puzzles rating just dropped by 100...

Unihedron

:(

I should mentor you through a few puzzles. Maybe it will help.

ProgramFOX

oh hey it's rising again :D

Always, at a certain point, those puzzles become a bit harder and then I fail those which makes my rating drop and then I get puzzles again which I can solve and so on...

Unihedron

... maybe that's why they had to place a rating on them? ;)

ProgramFOX

5:28 PM

:p

Unihedron

TheIceManV (the player around lichess forums) sent me a corresp. game request!

I'm totally going to play the bongcloud!

ProgramFOX

lol

Unihedron

> TheIceManV bongcloud????
Unihedron Muahahahaha!
Unihedron Fear my bongcloud attack!

ProgramFOX

xD

yay it's above 1200 again

uh nevermind :p

Unihedron

5:44 PM

0

A: Is there an effective attack as white after Nf3 with e5 response in Atomic chess?

There is a very interesting website with opening theory from the very first moves of atomic chess : https://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~chess/atomic/ To answer your question, after : 1.Nf3 e5 ? 2.Cg5 f5 ! ( Qxg5 lose the queen and ...f6 3.Nf7 Qe7 4.Nd6+) 3.h4! (cover h4 square from the black queen) a...

someone explain what "C" is

ProgramFOX

I have no idea.

Unihedron

2...e5? 3.Nb5! Bb4 4.c3 Qe7 5.Nd6!

^ got that from the book itself

unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~chess/atomic

Wow, nice read, I'm enlightened at the depth

Unihedron

6:04 PM

wait, that makes no sense

I'm looking at the wrong line!

1... e5?

   2.Ng5 Qxg5 [Vlasov-Defence Lindam Variation] 3.e4
     2...f6? 3.Nf7 Qe7 4.Nd6
     2...f5! [Vlasov-Defence Mainline]
	      3.h4! [Vlasov-Defence Esha Variation]
		  3...c6 4.Nxh7! [Esha Variation Mainline]
		  3...Bc5 [Esha-Nightrider Variation]
			 4.d4! Bb6 5.Nf7 Qe7 6.Nd6 Kf8 7.Nxb7
	      3.d3 [Vlasov-Defence JoelH Variation]
		  3...Nf6 ? 4.Nf7
	      3.Nf7?? Qh4 4.g3  Qd4

Oh! After Ng5, h4 is the key!

It makes sure the queen doesn't escape.