Ahh, the Criggie and Moz show.

Wait - who's the funny man and who is the straight man?

@SuspendedUser does that make you the comic relief, or the love interest?

I am pretty sure you are both the straight guy. That's part of your show's unconventional charm.

Hopefully the token moron who vaguely also serves as comic relief.

I was tempted to ask a david question.

I hear the suggestion of a new tag.

For anyone who wants a workout, get the ski kit for a Chariot, fill with a 40lb child, then drag over snow and overflow with a fatbike to your heart's content.

(david) for david questions... Theoretical questions that involve a "what-if" or "why not" without any intention to complete the project.

"Does any one make a jet assisted kit for trailers that is adjustable by weight (of the trailer) so the jet assist makes it act like you are not pulling a trailer? I want to move my groceries around and I would like to build a house with the proper gear ratios, but pulling the trailer is not enjoyable. However, I still want to ride my bike, I just want the trailer to be there, but not feel like it's there. Does anyone make such a product, and if not, why not?

@SuspendedUser the jet is what does it for me. I've seen mini jet engines before, they're fun... to watch on video. Up close they're terrifying. And I'm not even talking about the guy who built a "cruise missile" in his garage (viz, a jet powered drone)

I used to play with rockets lots when I was a kid. We stopped after an engine got loose and concussed one of the kids hanging out with us. Of course, if we had had it actually in a rocket and not taped to a goal post, it probably would not have happened.

I think we had middle school rocket scientist dreams since AeroJet was down the road and we could hear the fuel mixture tests on a weekly basis.

i should get out of bed and go play in the shed.

s/play/work/

moz: take your time and do it once

@SuspendedUser whats a chariot in this context ?

a sled ?

I'd have you a link, but the innetnetz are slow

google.com/…

There is a picture on that page of one hooked to a fatbike surprisingly, so there is one other idiot out there

Ahhh a trailer

How do you stop the snow blasting the kid ?

up from the rear tyre I mean

The front is a plastic window. Although at 5F, on a packed trail, there is no snow blasting.

Anywhere below 10F or so, the snow gets pretty solid and doesn't fluff about much.

Much easier back in the day when she weighed like 1/3 of what she does now.

Nice. Does she have a hottie in the back too?

warm hot water bottle I mean

@Criggie working time limited by battery life. The 5 year old 14.4V/2.2AH Panasonic hammer drill/driver does not like putting self-tapping roof screw into really old, dry timber. I begin to see why their new tools have accepted what everyone else does and gone to 18V and bigger batteries. Means the motors run cooler and more energy means you can work for more than an hour at a time

@SuspendedUser bugger, starring a picture just gives a link. But that is very cool, I like it.

It's a fun setup with an infant. Once I moved up to the CX2 with two toddlers, it was less so. Nice today that I only had one little one.

@Mσᶎ 220V AC is pretty good battery source :-P

susp:remember eventually they'll be peddling and you'll be riding.

riding --> being towed in your wheelchair, with a ski kit :)))

@Criggie you have an AC battery? Mains powered tools on a showery day and around nice sharp sheets of corrugated iron are not necessarily the best idea. It's hard enough keeping the grinder cord out of the way without trying to juggle a sheet of iron, a driver and a power cord. I have an earth leakage cutout but I'd rather not use it...

It would have been easier to buy an 18V impact driver to start with, because they're lighter than any of my drills and have more torque. But I wasn't willing to pay $500 then, and I'm not willing to pay it now the job is half done.

moz: I run an extension cable and I'm careful before striking up a tool.

My cordless drill is 9.6 volt.

Works bloody well when wired to the car 12V battery :)

@SuspendedUser - that's a fancy bike

It was worth working 1000+ hours at a shop to get my prodeal status AND working full time.

how much did it run all said and done?

I probably paid somewhere between $3K and $4K....everything gets piecemealed together from different prodeals.

Some of it got moved over from the original Pugsley frame that was using that XTR group and the carbon bits. The difference between the Pugsley frame and the Ti frame/Carbon fork combo was amazing.

prodeal? like, employee's discount or something?

Yeah. So most retail places will offer employees stuff at their cost, which is wholesale. But manufacturers often offer employees "in the industry" a prodeal option. So that chariot has a MSRP price of like $800. Employee price (the price the shop pays Chariot) was like $550. Prodeal price for me, from Chariot was like $250. Prodeal is the reason shoprats can afford nice bikes.

For manufacturers, it's mostly giving stuff to employees at their cost so employees will "get it out there" for them. Depending on the manufacturer, it can be a bit below wholesale, or steeply below wholesale.

So on the order of weird weather. The record low (in Fairbanks for today) was -51F in 1999. The record high was in 2000 (the next year) at 41F.

@SuspendedUser in Oz we also get stuff from importers, usually the "this has been in the warehouse for two years, it's got to go", which is where I got a nice dual suspension mid-range bike for $200 cf the "end of season sale" price of $999. For a friend's son, made him happy and she couldn't afford a decent bike for him at all.

Unfortunately the bike I want for myself tend very much to be custom builds so at best I get the groupset with frame for a nice price.

Wow, 7 hours manual labour and I am trashed. Albeit putting up sheets of iron on a day when the official weather forecast is "strong gusty winds, gale force on the coast" is probably less "manual labour" and more "bizarre form of suicide". Still, I survived despite one "jumping" off the ladder while trying to swing a sheet of iron so it didn't chop my leg off when I landed (managed that :)

moz: don't overheat. Have some liquids.

I've had three cups of herbal tea (500ml 'cup') and about a litre of water, plus a couple of bowls of rice+milk+sugar which is the best part of another litre. Now I'm inside drinking cup #4 of herbal tea.

It was the guys yesterday in their plastic suits when it was over 310K that I felt for. They both had eskys with cold drinks but those suits are hot (I've worn one at a protest in similar weather. We rotated out of it every hour).

depends how flash they are - did they have umbilical cords and a big powered box out of range?

cos those ones are stunning

so your inlet air is chilled and sent to you down a pipe

and your suit retains positive pressure so no need for a return pipe

the air leaks out through valves by design.

nope, these were just the cheap plastic ones you buy from hardware shops, with not even fully enclosed passive respirators and sunglasses style eye protection. Not really what I was expecting, and not what I'd want if I was doing that work.

I love the "what bicycle finishes have ever been used and how have they changed"... answer in less than 10,000 words please.

@Mσᶎ and don't forget, your answer must be verifiable

I was trying to write an answer to that guy in Amsterdam whose bike keeps getting stolen. I had a rough draft, but it is way too long. Think I need to set it to one side for now.

@Criggie well that was fun, I just did the first half ish of your course on my trainer. If you imagine the cyclist, with a helicopter traxcking them a couple of hundred feet behind and above, that's what I see on my screen. The imagery was quite low-res, but I suspect that's a limitation of Google Earth

To give you an idea of how the meds I'm on limit me, my heart rate didn't go above 95 the whole ride.

But quite nice to try that - the last time I did it, on my old laptop, the thing got too hot and shut itself down!

Now I smell. Even the cat is sitting with his back to me. Shower time.

afternoon folks

MOrning.

@Mσᶎ The prodeal stuff is generally only ever current year models. Also, it is very strictly for the industry employee's use only. I have seen people get fired for prodealing for family members. "Oh, you prodeal'd a bike for your brother who works at the U. I hope he enjoys it, you are fired."

@Mσᶎ how's your shed?

Man-tastic

his battery drill went flat and the wind died down so the challenge wasn't there.

Even I wouldn't do it with a bit and brace, and a yankee screwdriver.

Did you hear about Bruce the Aussie? No rides for 3 days now, so his tommy goodwin record attempt may be off.

only a month into it as well.

all the way to work and noone says anything - are you lot asleep or something ?

winding down for the day :)

8pm here

@Criggie just doing other stuff...nothing personal ;)

/me caffeinates

yay. Last weekend we got some Hagen Daas coffee ice cream, it was pretty good especially when mixed with their Belgian Chocolate

whoooo sounds rich

But its all gone now :(

I have a test server here at work that is doing thousands of DNS lookups per second, for the same hostnamr

IE its ignoring TTL

Noone is admitting to anything

or ownership

do you have to figure out what's happening? or just watch it? or tell the developer? or kick the shit out of it?

so I've got permission to turn it off in a couple hours

Then we'll see who wants it :) Or it could be old and broken stuff

I'm ripping an old CD to flac. Big Audio Dynamite. Probably before your time

But it won't rip, the disc looks pretty shot. Well it looks like it is ripping, but very slowly

dude - I was in high school when CDs came out.

they released it originally on vinyl, I'll have that in a box somewhere...

nah, given up on that. I have it in mp3 anyway

I see Blam has gone off on one again, this time on that bike theft prevention question.

I wonder if the "close" vote is his too?

HAH I was looking at a tandem on trademe (local ebay) and have received email from the seller - he found my home website and emailed from there

stalking based on my criggie username

weird

@PeteH I couldn't find an exact duplicate, and I was trying to work out what was wrong with that question, but I agree with whoever did vote to close that it's a poor question.

@PeteH went shopping for flashing. Wow that stuff is expensive. I am glad I got the asbestos guys to leave the rusty-but-intact bits of flashing that they could, because that would have cost another $150 or so to replace. Also, no invoice from the asbestos people yet, which is mildly odd. I will ring them next week and make sure they're not expecting payment based on paperwork to date.

@Mσᶎ why do you need an invoice? to prove it's gone?

Also, bank dude came round last night to talk about buying the new place. I am still recalibrating from commercial mortgage people, this one was also really unorganised and not good with numbers. I can't shake the idea that mortgage salespeople should first get all our numbers, then meet us. And when they do, should be able to look at our spreadsheet and go "we use X instead of Y, you need Z%, so the number I get is $OWOWOW dollars owed".

@PeteH to make sure we agree on how much I owe. Legally they can vary a quote by 10%, so the contract I have that says $3300 with $1000 deposit means I will probably have to pay another $2300, but it might be anywhere between $2000 and $2700. Hence ring to confirm.

I am still mildly freaked out that in the last 12 months two professional incomes is less than the capital gains on a house 30 minutes from the CBD. Even ignoring tax on the incomes. That just seems wrong. But it's also an incentive to buy another one ASAP. And then hope prices keep going up :)

@Mσᶎ got ya

@PeteH I mean, arguably it's a contract not a quote but the fine print still says "subject to variation if something unexpected happens".

anyway, off to the shopping area.

Laterz @Mσᶎ, I was just flicking through tv before bed, found a news programme about trident missiles.

@peteh trident missiles? Relevence to asbestos sheds, zero ?