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Duga

1:53 AM

go "bother" your more experienced programmers — Mitch Wheat 56 secs ago

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Robert Harvey

5:35 AM

Welcome to the world of software development (actually, the entire working world), where you're sometimes asked to do things you don't want to do, but you still have to do them anyway. — Robert Harvey 3 mins ago

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James Balajan

7:15 AM

Hello programmers. I've got a slightly opinion based question for you all. Which do you prefer in terms of programming paradigms: functional or object-oriented.

And in what situations are the paradigms best for

CandiedOrange

I prefer what works

James Balajan

excuse my horrible grammar, I'm pretty tired

CandiedOrange

OOP hates adding new methods. Functional hates adding new data. If you can magically predict the future I can predict the best paradigm for you. Otherwise it's best to use what the team knows well.

career wise learn both so you can pick the team that has better nerf gun battles.

James Balajan

7:40 AM

lol

Thanks

Duga

8:25 AM

I think your question is valid, but may be a better fit for another SE site: Programmers. It's not so much a question about implementation as it is about development practices. — Xan 13 secs ago

As it stands, this question does not show any research effort. How did you call intConnect? What is the error? (hint: check errno) There should be examples in the programmers guide to help you — mjs 19 secs ago

MetaFight

8:42 AM

any aviation/multirotor enthusiasts here?

Q: How to maximize your practical lift/weight ratio in a multirotor?

My friend and I are currently working together in a multirotor competition. He's an experienced flyer and I'm more of a numbers guy (though my background is in software engineering, not aviation). Our latest challenge involves maximizing our Lift to Weight ratio. Essentially, we're going to me...

sab

Hy everyone, I need to test a microservice architecture from an end to the other, have you any tools or lib for that?

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Duga

9:54 AM

You should ask this question in programmers.stackexchange.com — Cihan Uygun 17 secs ago

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sab

11:42 AM

@Duga I have, they bloc my message and ask-me to ask here

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enderland

1:02 PM

wooo HNQ train for yet another day

@sab duga is a bot that reposts comments made on Stack Overflow suggesting people post their questions here

gnat

1:32 PM

Q: Let's help askers who are trying to circumvent question block at Stack Overflow

If a first time asker has an SO account that was recently (say, within a week) question blocked over there, how about showing them a warning like this: Wait! You've recently been blocked at Stack Overflow. Consider that quality requirements at Programmers are similar. Note that Stack Overflow...

feature-request stackoverflow asking-questions post-ban new-users

Aaron Hall

2:16 PM

Haskell has an interesting type hierarchy.

enderland

@gnat it's possible a question here got deleted?

Aaron Hall

I have edited the question to highlight the question and remove requests for resources. @CodesInChaos that's a very creative close vote reason, but many parts of the SDLC process include solving social problems as well as programming. Please be more considered when voting to close, try to fix issues with questions first. — Aaron Hall 13 secs ago

Aaron Hall

2:41 PM

Poe's law

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makes a pun on multics

> Why should we have separate development, testing, and production environments?

^^^^^^^ too broad?

This can't be answered succinctly?

Telastyn

3:39 PM

"How do I convince my boss that this is a terrible idea?" is too broad.

Thomas Owens

@Telastyn Then edit the question. A lot of people here down vote and/or vote to close, without actually thinking "hey, can I fix this question?"

More people should consider leaving useful comments. Is the question too broad? Point that out and then suggest that the user makes edits to address the concerns.

If you can edit it yourself, edit it. Especially if it doesn't have an answer yet.

Telastyn

Why should we have separate development, testing, and production environments? - you don't. Many companies don't have separate environments, for good reasons.

Thomas Owens

You can still vote to close and/or down vote until the question is fixed.

@Telastyn Then you can post that as an answer, backed by your experiences and knowledge.

Telastyn

I don't think I can fix that question. How to separate your environments is company specific, with no expert subjective answer.

Thomas Owens

@AaronHall fixed the question. It can now be answered.

Unless it's a dupe (and I don't see one quickly), there's no reason to close it.

Telastyn

3:44 PM

I disagree, but not enough.

enderland

that question feels way too broad still

gnat

Q: Developing on a production server

Today I got yelled at for developing an application on a production server. Quote, "developing on a production server is not acceptable - ever!" Here is the situation. I set up a development instance: http://example.com:3000 The production instance is: http://example.com I complete all my deve...

web-development ruby-on-rails apache production hosting

enderland

it's basically "what are best practices for configuring your entire company infrastructure for test, production, and develop?" but wrapped into a slightly different wording

Thomas Owens

@enderland It's not asking for best practices. It's asking why something is a good practice.

enderland

that's the "wrapped into a slightly different wording" portion of what I said

CandiedOrange

3:57 PM

I really wish we could figure out how to handle best practice questions better. They shouldn't be a popularity contest between practices. They should be a competition to best document the pro's and con's of the practice.

enderland

@CandiedOrange it's simple: focus on the core problem

"why do prod/qual/dev" is a better question like, "I'm concerned about developing on a production environment, how can I avoid causing problems with this? It's already happening to our team"

Any SE "question" which doesn't fundamentally have a problem to be solved will cause problems, which is why best practices are less than good questions

Aaron Hall

The more content we salvage, the happier everyone will be (except perhaps some of the salvagers, who may be, like Jonah, offended at the redemption of the unwashed.)

gnat

A: How soon should I "vote to close"?

Always vote to close immediately. I explain the rationale behind this approach in further detail here. In summary: Yes, it increases the chances that the question will be closed, but that's actually a good thing for a couple of reasons: It increases the likelihood that the user will take notic...

CandiedOrange

@gnat if anyone else was throwing that out now I'd complain that close reasons rarely accurately educate the OP. Certainly not enough that they know how to fix their post. But you're better at posting an explanation comment than any close voter I know.

Aaron Hall

4:13 PM

I went ahead and threw my answer into the ring too.

enderland

4:31 PM

cv-plz programmers.stackexchange.com/q/332188/52929

CandiedOrange

5:01 PM

@Enderland I always thought the fundamental problem was to understand the pro's and con's of a practice in a particular context.

gnat

in prior question you mentioned that you posted off-topic / debugging help here instead of Stack Overflow by mistake - please note that you seem to be making the same mistake yet again — gnat 1 min ago

^^^ as Robert Harvey said, always assume good faith...

Carlos

Is phase 1 of Moore's majority vote algorithm just finding the mode of the array?

CandiedOrange

5:44 PM

By phase 1 do you mean: Eliminate all elements except one.
Iterating through the array of numbers, maintain a current candidate and a counter initialized to 0. With the current element x in iteration, update the counter and (possibly) the candidate: if the counter is 0, set the current candidate to x and the counter to 1. If the counter is not 0, increment or decrement the counter based on whether x is the current candidate.

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enderland

7:45 PM

VTC. downvote. see question disappear immediately

nom. nom nom

Aaron Hall

Meanwhile, this is why SO wouldn't give us more close votes:

Q: Manager wants a combined development & production environment

I work in a small programming team supporting a larger organisation. This year our manager has decided we are going to use Oracle Apex technologies to handle the vast majority of our company data. This would be ok, except we only have one Apex server. Our manager has decreed that everything happ...

testing development-environment quality production environment

With incredibly little change, it was brought back to life.

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enderland

9:35 PM

@AaronHall I still think it's a bad question, though. meh

Aaron Hall

9:53 PM

downvote it then. but don't close-vote it - it's on topic. I don't think I had to change any of the verbiage of the actual question, just set it apart at the bottom.

Kit Z. Fox

10:32 PM

I'm so bored.

user15026

10:48 PM

Want to work the last hour of my day for me? :P

Kit Z. Fox

@Ash No.

But I sent your present!

user15026

@KitZ.Fox Oooh yay! That's exciting. I love getting mail. Getting mail makes me ridiculously happy.

Kit Z. Fox

It's a box, too.

user15026

Yay, boxes are fun!

Kit Z. Fox

11:09 PM

I don't know how long it will take to get there or if it will even arrive. I sent it cheap and although the post office lady said that certain things in it were fine to ship, I'm pretty sure the sign on the wall behind her said otherwise.

So if they search it, um. I don't know if you'll still get it.

But if it's been like 12 weeks or something and you still haven't got it, let me know.

Although I'm thinking really maybe 2 weeks.

You're not that far away.

user15026

@KitZ.Fox When did you send it?

user15026

Just so I know when to be like "hey yo it's not here"

Kit Z. Fox

Um... checks paperwork Yesterday. Seems like longer ago than that though.

user15026

11:59 PM