The Whiteboard

4:21 AM

This is exactly the kind of question that we on Programmers.SE want. It is more about the application architecture than about coding, so I can see why CodeReview.SE passed on it. — Adam Zuckerman 57 secs ago

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7:14 AM

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because licensing advice is off-topic on Stack Overflow. You may be able to get help on Programmers Stack Exchange, but read their faq carefully before proceeding. — Kyll 38 secs ago

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Yannis

9:25 AM

I'll have a response out (hopefully) tomorrow, possibly Wednesday. tl;dr - we support the idea, but we've got a bit to talk about first. — Tim Post ♦ yesterday

ratchet freak

@Kevin the implementation of realloc depends on how malloc and free are implemented

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Welcoming Stack Overflow’s New CMO – Adrianna Burrows

10:48 AM

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because legal or licensing advice is off-topic on Stack Overflow. You may be able to get help on Programmers Stack Exchange, but read their faq carefully before proceeding. — Kyll 51 secs ago

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StackExchange

1:08 PM

Alexa Scordato on May 4, 2016

The Stack Overflow team is beyond excited to welcome Adrianna Burrows as Stack Overflow’s new Chief Marketing Officer. She’s an industry veteran of everything from global product launches to partner development and she is as laser focused as we are about empowering developers.

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2:23 PM

That's what stack overflow needs, more marketing!

2:36 PM

Most people think of Marketing as Promotion, but there's dimensions of Product, Price, and Place too. Maybe she can creatively combine ideas in those areas and double the market capitalization/value of the firm.

EcstaticSnow

2:58 PM

Deep Web Good documentary.(I didn't want to post the link to the Pirated video incase someone clickwed it at work)

UML question might be better answered at programmers.stackexchange.com — J. Chomel 13 secs ago

3:38 PM

I think the correct site is superuser.com is the same stackexchange family but dedicated to system manages instead of programmers. — Marco 40 secs ago

4:05 PM

@Ampt Where would you like to see SO spending some of their capital?

I guess more designers, more people to go through the MSE piles and actually respond to more than .01% of them, and whatever technical work would be required to make more quality-control features configurable per-site without CM intervention so that the sites inundated with junk don't have to beg for divine intervention as often

@Ixrec That sounds like the sort of thing this community would get behind, can you communicate it to the people who hold the purse-strings? If the sites are part of the product (you are also the product) and place, marketing leads matter. Perhaps the stakeholders on programmers could attempt to communicate directly to the new CMO, who might be able to drive some of these ideas.

if any of us had any idea how to get SE to do what we wanted, we would've done it by now

(sorry for the pessimism)

Sometimes it take an MBA. :)

Ok, but seriously, like only one person has commented on that CMO post. We could at least post a comment linking to, say a meta post that clearly outlines our ~~demands~~ suggestions.

4:21 PM

behold the power of hard-earned user apathy

@AaronHall I get what you're getting at - SE is a business and therefore needs to make business decisions that benefit that - but SE is also very unique in it's position, given that it aims to be a repository of knowledge. Unfortunately, more and more often, those two goals are at odds, and business tends to be winning more and more, making SE less and less useful, in my opinion. They can do what they want, it's their site, but I can also do what I want, which is to distance myself.

It's not necessarily a new problem - they've never had a great definition for their revenue stream beyond "we'll sell ads" but I'm worried that they're cutting off the nose to spite the face (or turn a buck)

"we'll sell ads and we'll get you jobs"

They haven't been very successful with either though

it'd be funny if they actually made the job thing successful enough it could branch out to all the smaller sites

jobs.bicycles.stackexchange

4:37 PM

Yeah, I'm kind of up in the air whether sites were a bad decision or not - Not that I want to shove Progs back into SO, but because the effort they spent making other sites could have been spent making tools to currate and sort content better

there's no way the current scope of the SE network would make any sense on a single StackOverflow imo, no matter how well designed

but I'll agree that the way the technical sites like SO, Progs, SF, SU, U&L and so on are broken up makes absolutely no sense

You don't think there's a way to currate content to the right section of the site without leaving the main URL behind?

there's possible and then there's being a good idea

I suppose - but it means that each site now has it's own stack and updates are manually applied to each site, and each site doesn't necessarily get the attention it needs

Separate is good, but I think they went too far

I mean it's all a moot point now but it's just an example of poor decision making that has led SE to where it is today. It's not awful, but I think it may be at inflection point of usefulness

4:56 PM

I have a friend who tells me he has a lot of rep in his firm's private SO.

They licensed the tech but never updated it.

private SO? I'm sure that's a great experience all around hah

Yep, we have a similar one in my firm, but we call it "Mind storm" and I think it's been around for a while.

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