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user20683
1:16 AM
 
user55340
1:57 AM
Found a classic board game for @JimmyHoffa
 
user55340
 
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Malky.Kid
Malky.Kid
Good day everyone. I have a question, but I'm not entirely sure where I should post it:

I've developed a VB.net application that can simply login to an SQL Database and Fetch records from it. It's actually just a simple Human resource Information System. However my Antivirus(Microsof Security Essentials) keeps on warning me that the .exe file my code produces is harmful and keeps on suggesting I send it to microsoft for further details. It's never done that before with my other projects, and I don't have automated processes in that program.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@MichaelT it appears as confusing as actual category theory...
 
user55340
@Malky.Kid Have you considered sending it to Microsoft?
 
Malky.Kid
Malky.Kid
2:02 AM
I did once. It keeps on bugging me about it.
 
user55340
What did they say?
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@MichaelT they just sent him back a bunch of your mom jokes
 
Malky.Kid
Malky.Kid
Nothing yet..the thing is, I've never written anything that could harm the system.

@JimmyHoffa Ha!
 
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Malky.Kid
Malky.Kid
it's just your standard basic insert, update and delete.
Nothing too complicated.

But everytime I compile, Security Essentials Fires off
saying that the file COULD be harmful.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
2:05 AM
maybe you've been sleep coding trojans for a newsgroup out of jakarta
 
Malky.Kid
Malky.Kid
sleep coding?
is my computer hacked?
 
user55340
You really need to contact MS to see why its triggering...
 
Malky.Kid
Malky.Kid
thing is, I want to sound cool and all, but I can't for the life of me program trojans or viruses or stuff like that. I don't know how to yet
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
most likely you have a security policy update come down that set unsigned .NET code to be either untrusted, or you are unwittingly using some higher-security features than you realized. Or perhaps you're trying to run it from an under-privileged user
 
Malky.Kid
Malky.Kid
is the fact that I'm still using a 2005 version relevant?
 
user55340
2:08 AM
(I'm amused at the Tom Vasel review claiming its the weakest of Sid's games - while others consider it to be a strong game...)
 
Malky.Kid
Malky.Kid
2005 visual studio I mean? (liscenced)
*licensed
so what's next, I contact Microsoft Immediately?
yeah. Maybe that's what I'll do. Thanks so much
 
user55340
2:51 AM
 
user55340
Overwhelmingly Large Telescope
The Overwhelmingly Large Telescope (OWL) was a conceptual design by the European Southern Observatory (ESO) organization for an extremely large telescope, which was intended to have a single aperture of 100 meters in diameter. Because of the complexity and cost of building a telescope of this unprecedented size, ESO has elected to focus on the 39-meter diameter European Extremely Large Telescope instead. While the original 100-m design would not exceed the angular resolving power of interferometric telescopes, it would have exceptional light-gathering and imaging capacity which would greatly increase...
 
user55340
(the OLT is the grey doughnut scale in the background...)
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
5:32 AM
How in the hell can you expect to build a system in VB.NET if you don't even know the syntax? — Robert Harvey ♦ 8 mins ago
 
 
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Christoph
Christoph
8:58 AM
good morning!
 
 
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MetaFight
MetaFight
11:16 AM
 
MetaFight
MetaFight
12:14 PM
We should get one double-downvote a day... for those extra special questions.
 
 
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Ampt
Ampt
1:54 PM
@MetaFight make a M.SE request!
I'd vote for that
 
user41796
@Ampt A regular vote or a double-down vote? ;-)
 
Ampt
Ampt
@GlenH7 I'd double down on that vote, if you catch my drift
 
user41796
That's what I was trying to clarify... :-)
 
Ampt
Ampt
Also, I know we usually don't talk hardware, but how many radiators do you think it would take to cool a relatively high performance PC passively
 
user41796
<speculating> Offhand, I would think there is a point where passive cooling simple won't work. At some point, the rate of thermal conductance will be slower than the rate of heat generated. Material choice and fin design will have an impact on that.
 
Christoph
Christoph
1:58 PM
@Ampt that depends on so many details that only somebody that has tried to cool exactly your CPU in exactly your environment might be able give a good estimate
 
user41796
@Christoph Well, that's partially true
 
Ampt
Ampt
Well, I could theoretically install 4x480mm + 2x360mm + 1x140mm radiator all in the same case
 
user41796
We ought to be able to find the rate of heat output from the CPU. And we ought to be able to find the dissipative rate of various coolers
 
Ampt
Ampt
sorry, that should read 2x480mm
140Watts is pretty typical for CPU max output
TDP as it were
 
user41796
So bust out your thermo calculations and you should be able to swag an answer
 
Christoph
Christoph
2:01 PM
@Ampt really nothing important, just a state msg
 
Ampt
Ampt
ok, so lets see here... passive dissipation rate for a 480mm radiator
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@GlenH7 just take power consumption
 
Ampt
Ampt
I mean as the temperature rises, you're going to get better thermal transfer from the radiator to the air...
I'm just not sure where 600 watts is on that scale, and whether it's within the tolerances of the parts generating the heat
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
but you still need air circulation otherwise the system saturates
 
user41796
@ratchetfreak Good point as I'm sure you can use the crude assumption that all power is converted to heat.
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
2:06 PM
@GlenH7 most is anyway
compared to the heat the energy in the electrical signals going out is tiny
 
Christoph
Christoph
everything that doesn't go into the CPU's I/O is dissipated as heat
 
Ampt
Ampt
so a 360mm radiator of the same make and model (just 1 fan shorter) can dissipate 315 watts and have a deltaT of 10C
 
user41796
Ratchet's point about air circulation is important. Most cases have minimal air flow without some sort of assistance. And adding all those radiators eats up a lot of space available within the case.
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
and bad design can create warm pockets
 
Christoph
Christoph
getting the heat away from the CPU is the main problem, that's why heat pipes are so popular
 
Ampt
Ampt
2:09 PM
@Christoph its water cooled, so getting it from A to B is already taken care of
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
but you still need to get it away from B
 
user41796
You already have a water cooling system on there? And now you're just trying to cool off the water?
 
Christoph
Christoph
@Ampt oooh I see - I B outside of the PC case?
 
Ampt
Ampt
@GlenH7 yep. use a pump to get it around the system, but I think it would be cool to have no fans on top of it
likely I'll have 4 fans on one of the 480mm radiators that are hidden
for backup
but I'm interested to see if having a stupid amount of radiators can do the trick
 
user41796
Okay, that's definitely workable
 
user41796
2:12 PM
short answer - yes
 
Christoph
Christoph
I'd also vote yes
 
user41796
string them along the heat pipes and you'll be g2g.
 
user41796
My main worry from before was the small surface area of the cpu and the rate of heat dissipation away from that small area. I don't think a pure passive solution could work for that
 
Ampt
Ampt
yeah. I want to watercool the CPU + GPUs. maybe the ram and the motherboard but those usually do fine passively on their own.
 
Christoph
Christoph
can you assemble then as you like, i.e. in series, parallel, above or besides each other?
 
Ampt
Ampt
2:13 PM
@Christoph however I want.
 
user41796
but since you've already moved the heat off of the cpu, you have a lot more surface area to attach radiators to
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
then use an aquarium
 
Ampt
Ampt
For reference, I bought this case
and when I say 480mm radiator
I mean this
I can easily get 2 of those in there
 
Christoph
Christoph
@Ampt where are the connections and what do you mean by "in there"?
can't load the case picture btw
 
user41796
@Ampt How are you getting outside air into the case?
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
2:16 PM
why not a fountain that does the cooling?
 
Ampt
Ampt
@GlenH7 Case is mostly mesh on the top and bottom. One would go on the top, which I'm hoping would do most of the work
@ratchetfreak fountain+computer = bad times, plus I want dead silence
@Christoph Try this?
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
you could still make a heat exchanger and isolate the fountain from the cooling water
 
user41796
@Ampt I think you're going to have problems without some sort of powered air flow to draw in outside air
 
Ampt
Ampt
@GlenH7 gah.. yeah... I was hoping that wouldn't be the case but you're probably right
 
user41796
I could certainly be wrong - the safe thing to do would be to setup a thermal shutdown event on the mobo.
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
2:18 PM
@GlenH7 unless he relies on the power supply for the last push
 
Ampt
Ampt
thats already built into most computers
but realistically the 4 backup fans would kick on long before that happened
 
user41796
Why not swap out one or two of those fans for super quiet ones and not worry about it?
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
unless they ceased up from non use
 
Ampt
Ampt
oh they would likely be <1k rpm silent fans
 
user41796
Ought to be okay then.
 
Ampt
Ampt
2:19 PM
and at 120mm, fans are actually pretty quiet all around
but the claim of passive cooling would be pretty awesome
 
user41796
You've got a backup system in place, so it's not like you're going to cook your equipment
 
Christoph
Christoph
If I wanted to build a passive cooler for the water, I'd use an external radiator that is flat, upright, and has the water flowing from top to bottom, in order to generate natural convection
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
also isn't the water pump going to make noise?
 
Ampt
Ampt
@ratchetfreak it's pretty much silent
already own that one
you can't tell its on unless you get your ear within 3-4"
 
Christoph
Christoph
but having a pump makes it active - it pumps a fluid, just as the fans would. from a thermodynamic perspective it's the same
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
2:21 PM
@Ampt unless one of the pipes has an eigenfrequency of the pump RPM
 
Ampt
Ampt
@Christoph ok, passive in the sense that it has no fans, not in the fact that there is no active movement
s/passive/fanless/g
did I do that right @JimmyHoffa?
@ratchetfreak then it will be cut shorter
or made longer
 
user41796
His sed is weak, youngling. But yes, you got that right.
 
Ampt
Ampt
or thrown out completely
 
Christoph
Christoph
Maybe a chimney effect cooler....I'll sketch something
 
user41796
The biggest question, @Ampt, is if this project has approval from your advisory board.
 
Ampt
Ampt
2:23 PM
@GlenH7 .....the less she knows, the better.
but realistically she's on board. I own most of the stuff required, and I plan on taking my time with the build and spreading it out over the winter, upgrading stuff as it comes in
 
user41796
Good idea to keep individual purchases below your approval amount. It's amazing what you can build up with lots of little purchase orders.
 
Ampt
Ampt
That's the plan!
 
user41796
Is this going to be used as an HTPC or is this a gaming rig? Or both?
 
Ampt
Ampt
although I think the graphics cards are going to have to get approval... each is over the approval amount and I kind of have my eyes set on 3
gaming rig
ideally 3x1440p monitors
 
user41796
Because the other option with an HTPC is to simply get a louder sound system. :-)
 
user55340
2:27 PM
@GlenH7 Back in the day at the UW Madison, you couldn't buy a computer over some small limit or it would be a capital expenditure (which had lots of paperwork). Some people were able to get around this by buying parts and building the computer instead.
 
user55340
One was even able to build a vax cobbled together from used parts... though that took awhile.
 
user41796
@MichaelT It's a time honored technique if you can't sneak the approval through the secretary when the boss is out.
 
Ampt
Ampt
@GlenH7 I'll be sleeping <10 feet from the computer
 
user41796
And I don't think that @Ampt's advisory board has an assistant with signatory authority.
 
user55340
btw... ever notice Radar in M*A*S*H and what he does in background images?
 
user41796
2:28 PM
stamp papers?
 
user41796
@Ampt You could always turn it off at night when you sleep...
 
Ampt
Ampt
@GlenH7 where's the fun in that?
 
user55340
(looking for actual image / footage)
 
Ampt
Ampt
It's been a long time since I've caught M*A*S*H on the air
 
user55340
hmm... can't find it quickly... he's got jeep parts. He's dismantled one and is sending it home piece by piece.
 
Ampt
Ampt
2:32 PM
I'm not sure I ever caught that... into TVTropes we go!
 
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ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@Ampt see you next week
 
user55340
> He also won over $800 in poker playing with members of MASH and dismantled a jeep and smuggled it home piece by piece.
 
Christoph
Christoph
@Ampt go for a selfmade cooler - build the following and tell me if it set your house on fire:
 
user55340
Apparently, its a first season thing.
 
Ampt
Ampt
2:34 PM
Please tell me you drew that
 
Christoph
Christoph
@Ampt what if I did/what if not?
 
Ampt
Ampt
@Christoph It's pretty genius. LED strips and all
 
user41796
14 mins ago, by Christoph
Maybe a chimney effect cooler....I'll sketch something
 
Christoph
Christoph
I have the sheet right here in front of me, I can take another picture from any perspective you like
 
Ampt
Ampt
Haha oh no, I believe it
it is an interesting idea though
I will say that
 
user41796
2:38 PM
@Ampt It's just an inverted wort chiller
 
user55340
Found the script bit that actually mentions it in Dead Dad.
 
Ampt
Ampt
I think if I went external though, I would want to "Reuse" the heat
 
Christoph
Christoph
the main thing you want is some geometry that "supports" natural convection, and counter-flow is generally a good idea to get low temperature difference between the fluids
 
Ampt
Ampt
@GlenH7 pretty much, yeah
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
but the heat transfer to the chimney from the water needs to be big enough
 
Ampt
Ampt
2:38 PM
mainly by blowing it on my feet all winter
 
user55340
> ## [ Big Band ] How far had Radar O'Reilly gotten in my last letter to you? I think, if I'm not mistaken, he had mailed the backseats by then.
This week he's smuggling out the front seats.
It took Trapper and me a while to figure out what he was up to until we did a fluoroscope of one of his packages and found out he was mailing a jeep home, piece by piece.
- What's in the box? - Toys for the orphans, sir.
- Oh.
Let me give you a hand.
- Would you, please, sir? [ Hawkeye ] Radar's not the first guy to do this, of course.
 
Christoph
Christoph
Had to look up wort chiller - yes the idea is the same, but there should be some structure supporting the pipes as they are otherwise unprotected/unsupported
I can most probably find a paper with correlations for those in natural convection
 
user55340
Btw, do we have a still and mash conversation going on concurrently without intertwining?
 
Ampt
Ampt
Nah, I think this is all the info I needed
@MichaelT also yes
We can multi-task!
 
user55340
You're going to make a still in your cube and send a segway home piece by piece?
 
Ampt
Ampt
2:42 PM
@MichaelT if I had a jeep to mail home I totally would
 
user41796
The more I read about setting up a still the less enthused I got.
 
Ampt
Ampt
as for the still, it's not a bad idea but I'm worried about my cubemate
he's a real stickler for the rules
 
user41796
You have to monitor the output carefully and throw out the first portion and the tailings.
 
Ampt
Ampt
yeah the heads and the tails
don't want those
 
user55340
@Ampt is his name Frank?
 
Ampt
Ampt
2:45 PM
@MichaelT yeah but we call him Ferret Face.
 
user15026
@MichaelT checks what room she is in
 
Ampt
Ampt
@AshleyNunn the one with beer and monads
duh.
 
user55340
/me suppresses the urge to call @AshleyNunn "Hot Lips"
 
user15026
@Ampt Oh, right. :) I am lacking in beer
 
Ampt
Ampt
@AshleyNunn and/also thermodynamics and emergency surgery, apparently
 
user41796
2:47 PM
I wonder if there are chip based sensors or similar that can detect methanol levels...
 
Ampt
Ampt
@GlenH7 They do make continuous stills, somehow
 
user15026
@MichaelT laughs Whatever works :P (I got all of MASH for my birthday so I am rewatching it for the nth time)
 
Ampt
Ampt
I've no idea how they work
 
user55340
 
Ampt
Ampt
@AshleyNunn where N is defined as the limit as x->0 of 1/x right?
 
user55340
2:47 PM
 
user15026
@Ampt Possibly?
 
Ampt
Ampt
@AshleyNunn (It means that N === infinity)
I've seen that show more times than I know between watching it with my dad when I was little and catching the reruns after school
I love that you can always tell what episode it is from the opening scene
 
user55340
One of my friends in college bought the entire show on DVD back awhile ago... it had the feature of an audio channel that removed the laugh track at which point it became a very different show.
 
user41796
@MichaelT I'm thinking I need to work on my mad scientist skills and come up with an inline methanol detector so you know what portions of the heads and tails to dump when running a still.
 
Ampt
Ampt
@GlenH7 IT would be cool if you could somehow seperate them out in real time
@MichaelT that would be morbid.
 
Christoph
Christoph
2:51 PM
@Ampt damn this chimney is distracting from my actual work now
 
user55340
M*A*S*H (TV series)
M*A*S*H is an American television series developed by Larry Gelbart, adapted from the 1970 feature film MASH (which was itself based on the 1968 novel MASH: A Novel About Three Army Doctors, by Richard Hooker). The series, which was produced in association with 20th Century Fox Television for CBS, follows a team of doctors and support staff stationed at the "4077th Mobile Army Surgical Hospital" in Uijeongbu, South Korea during the Korean War. The show's title sequence features an instrumental version of "Suicide Is Painless", the theme song from the original film. The show was created after an...
 
user55340
Go to the laugh track section.
 
user15026
@MichaelT Yeah, my dvd set does the same, and that changes the show so much
 
Ampt
Ampt
@MichaelT Yeah I know they never wanted it, but it kept it lighthearted
 
user41796
@Ampt What I'm thinking is a simple red / green sensor to track the head. Once the methanol drops below a certain level then the light turns green and you know to start collecting the output instead of trashing it.
 
Ampt
Ampt
2:52 PM
As much as I think Alan Alda is a genius, I may have to disagree with him here
@Christoph Would it be able to dissipate 1200 watts if I wanted? I think that would me the max I would ever ask out of it
 
user55340
btw, xkcd today is another funky one.
 
Ampt
Ampt
That feeling you get when the things you want to buy aren't available on amazon prime...
 
user55340
 
Ampt
Ampt
does it randomly switch scrolling direction for anyone else?
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
it zooms into you mouse position
and eats memory like crazy
 
Ampt
Ampt
3:01 PM
after like 3 scrolls in one direction, that direction would then scroll out
and vice versa
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
it's supposed to be a fractal like zoom
 
Christoph
Christoph
@Ampt I can not answer that without going deeper into the correlations and at least making some simulations
@Ampt do you have any idea of the water mass flow rate, or volume flow rate (liters per second, something like that) in your system?
 
user41796
@Christoph I think you've been sniped by this problem of his.
 
user41796
Which isn't a bad thing, just pointing it out
 
Christoph
Christoph
@GlenH7 that's absolutely true, but I can't restrain myself (is that how you say it? I'm not a native...) because thermodynamics is my profession
 
Ampt
Ampt
3:16 PM
@Christoph I'll do you one better and tell you exactly which pump I'm using
 
Christoph
Christoph
yay!
 
Ampt
Ampt
will that get you what you need?
 
Christoph
Christoph
that's not in SI units but I'll make do ;)
 
Ampt
Ampt
haha sorry!
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
Lpm (Liters/minute) is SI
 
Christoph
Christoph
3:20 PM
Lpm is not the problem, mH20 and PSI are
 
Ampt
Ampt
You can just use the 100% curve. I'd likely be running it full blast
it's really that quiet
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
just plug in the hydrostatic pressure of 1 meter of water for the mH2O
 
user41796
 
Christoph
Christoph
@ratchetfreak I know how it's done, I was just nitpicking
 
Ampt
Ampt
If you need more pressure, I could be convinced to double up on the pumps
 
Christoph
Christoph
3:24 PM
I seriously doubt that pressure drop is the main problem
 
Ampt
Ampt
Hahaha I know, but it would give me an excuse to double my pumps
granted, you're not the only thing dropping the pressure here. 3 waterblocks would also be in the loop, but they shouldn't affect the pressure terribly
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt making a new gaming machine?
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa Slowly but surely, yes.
at the moment it's just a new case + new fittings and tubing
the old GTX 570 is still doing it's job and chugging along
but I'll likely put a new radiator+gfx card w/ waterblock on the list eventually
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt did you grab any halo from the steam sale the other week?
 
Ampt
Ampt
Sadly no. There was only one on there
and... well... I'm a little gun shy ever since I bought Halo ODST and Halo Reach back to back
talk about DLC turned full blown game...
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
3:33 PM
heh
 
Ampt
Ampt
I bought them both. for 60 bucks a piece. (That's a lie, I got the limited edition of ODST for 80)
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
haha
 
Ampt
Ampt
Plus they killed the multiplayer by trying to make it like COD
where are the static weapon spawns? Where are the timing pushes to get key areas
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
yeah the multi was kind of the whole point of the halo games I thought...
 
Ampt
Ampt
It was, then they seriously screwed it up
CoD was about getting better guns through experience and starting with them
but truth be told they were all pretty damn even. you could get killed with the lowest gun when you had the best pretty easily
 
user55340
3:35 PM
 
Ampt
Ampt
with Halo it was all about controlling key areas of the map to get the power weapons. When you spawn with them, there's no longer a point to it
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@MichaelT you bought the book?
 
user55340
@JimmyHoffa nope... just an imgur / reddit link I found.
 
Ampt
Ampt
it's not even a part of the MLG pro tour any more. It's just a real shame
 
user55340
> Weird (and worrying) questions from the What if? Inbox:
Q: Given humanity's current knowledge and capabilities, is it possible to build a new star?
Q: What sort of logistic anomalies would you encounter trying to raise an army of apes?
Q: If people had wheels and could fly, how would we different them from airplanes?
 
user55340
3:37 PM
Half tempted to ask that last one on Aviation.SE.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@MichaelT I encourage this behaviour
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
prepare for close votes though
 
user55340
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
that or a detailed explanation about ultralights
 
user55340
/r/xkcd on reddit ( reddit.com/r/xkcd ) picked up a bit and is quite active after the coup.
 
user15026
3:42 PM
I started using reddit yesterday on a whim, and it confuses me.
 
user55340
@AshleyNunn reddit.com/r/aww
 
user41796
@MichaelT coup?
 
Ampt
Ampt
@AshleyNunn "On a whim" - Suuure.
 
user55340
@GlenH7 reddit.com/r/xkcd/comments/2cz5an/… - though note that the title of the post may set off very anal firewall rules filtering specific content words...
 
user55340
 
user55340
3:46 PM
For awhile, /r/xkcd was in the hands of people with not-the-norm (and way outside accepted) political beliefs which basically shut down the activity of the subreddit. One guy was able to get in to that group wait until the mod didn't do his 2 month activity mail and then steal the subreddit back and kick everyone out of the mod team and put back in a sensible team.
 
user41796
@MichaelT Just skimmed the top page and a half of scrolling. Um, that's why I don't bother frequenting reddit...
 
user55340
You can see when this happened on: reddit.com/r/xkcd/about/traffic
 
user55340
@GlenH7 Its discussion...
 
user41796
@MichaelT very high N:S ratio.
 
user55340
And yep... everything wrong with discussions is concentrated there.
 
user55340
3:48 PM
However, it can be amusing... and useful especially if you're just after the links to other things of interest.
 
user15026
@Ampt well, because a friend suggested I read things.
 
user15026
@GlenH7 This is a thing I have also discoverd
 
user41796
Clearly I'm a curmudgeon because I simply don't understand why people are willing to put up with so much noise.
 
user55340
But if you're after cute pictures and sometimes useful information...
 
user55340
 
user41796
3:51 PM
I'll grant that it's cute, but the cost of wading through crap to find the one nugget? Meh, I'll search elsewhere
 
user15026
@GlenH7 I went on a rant about it yesterday at my boyfriend-person. There's just so much noise and things and chaos and people being terrible and sometimes there are good things but they are hard to find. Also, rate-limiting. grouch
 
user55340
 
user55340
@GlenH7 I'll grant its like the worst of the not constructive questions at times... reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor
 
user15026
@MichaelT Dear god why did I click that. I need a kitten and a cupcake, stat.
 
user55340
@AshleyNunn You wanted a place to rant about boyfriends?
 
user55340
3:55 PM
 
user15026
@MichaelT No! My boyfriend is like made of rainbows and awesome! I more meant I ranted at him about how reddit makes me nuts!
 
user55340
 
Ampt
Ampt
@AshleyNunn Yeah... there are some subreddits that make me want to bang my head against a brick...
 
user15026
@MichaelT One time I played with a baby tiger and a baby lion and they mostly chewed on my shoe laces.
 
user15026
@Ampt Please don't, I like your head as it is :)
 
user55340
3:58 PM
 
user55340
> Angry dad cat liked to sit in the sink by himself...until the kittens found him
 
user41796
@MichaelT DADDY!!!! ~kittens
 
user55340
Sometimes the subreddits can get rather specific... like reddit.com/r/CatsInSinks
 
user55340
 
Christoph
Christoph
@Ampt forget about that chimney cooler unless you just need a new LED lamp
 
Ampt
Ampt
4:01 PM
@Christoph So... not gonna handle 1200 watts?
 
user15026
Tumblr is similar with single subject things.
 
Ampt
Ampt
How much could it handle?
@AshleyNunn or, better yet, reddit.com/r/thestopgirl
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@Ampt or overspeced?
 
Christoph
Christoph
if the water temperature is limited to 40 °C (20 K above ambient), height 0.5 m and diameter 0.3 m, it can probably do something like 100 W
 
user55340
Sometimes, you go places where you really know you shouldn't click... reddit.com/r/programmingdadjokes
 
user55340
4:03 PM
(yes, that is SFW)
 
Ampt
Ampt
@Christoph I would be willing to let it hit 65C if that would help our thermal conductance.... above that would be less desireable
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
and if there was more efficient temperature exchange with the inside of the chimney?
with fins and such
 
user15026
@Ampt People are weird.
 
Ampt
Ampt
@AshleyNunn how many links did it take to convince you?
 
Christoph
Christoph
@ratchetfreak they will have a positive effect compared to no fins, but it's hard to find correlations for that. I might have a closer look when I'm bored by my real work again, though
 
Ampt
Ampt
4:05 PM
Thanks for the help @Christoph
:)
 
user15026
@Ampt one
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
I mean water radiators for heating a room have fins
 
Ampt
Ampt
@AshleyNunn I mean convince you that they were all the same?
hahaha
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
so it would be obvious that adding them would help
 
Ampt
Ampt
hence my original idea of using radiators with tons of fins :)
 
user15026
4:06 PM
@Ampt Well, I used my experience from yesterday to judge the things linked today, so. :P
 
Christoph
Christoph
@Ampt it was fun! I might do a new refined calculation somewhen in the next days and tell you about the result when we meet again here
 
Ampt
Ampt
@AshleyNunn haha yeah it's an interesting place reddit. there are some really great subreddits that post cool stuff
and then theres... others.
 
user55340
(another version of the don't click but SFW reddit.com/r/programmerdadjokes )
 
user55340
37
Q: How does David Lightman in WarGames manage to hack a computer by dialing a number?

BenjaminJBHis setup seems to be a telephone connected to a computer. When he dials another computer on the phone, he manages to gain access to it remotely. Is this a realistic situation or just something done for effect? This video shows the technique but not the actual access being gained, as it is w...

technology 80s
 
user55340
Don't go there if you are afraid of feeling old.
 
user55340
4:17 PM
(given that you are old)
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@MichaelT his imagination
 
user55340
 
user55340
In Russia... something.
 
user55340
I don't even know what.
 
enderland
enderland
dashcams in russia make for great youtube videos
 
user55340
4:37 PM
Close votes please:
 
user55340
-1
Q: Guess girl number

gregszewskiwould You help me get girl number ? She said that her number sums is equal 42 . So it is like 9 digits 0-9 each 0-9 0-9 0-9 0-9 0-9 0-9 0-9 0-9 0-9 so number 666666600 = 42 so this could be her number . What I need is a code to generate all possible nine digits number which sum is 42 . Thanks ...

python
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
I flagged it for nuking.
 
user55340
I've been out of close votes since early this morning...
 
user55340
@TimPost It is now September. We're getting bombarded with homework. Things hurt. Have you given any more thought on this? — MichaelT 18 hours ago
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
@MichaelT OMG
 
user15026
4:41 PM
@MichaelT We had a argument over this question in the Bridge yesterday!
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
@AshleyNunn Oh these young folk. They've never heard the sound DEE DEE DEE DEE DAA DAA DAA DAA BAH BEYAW BEYAW PSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Why, when I was their age...
 
user41796
Me thinks we have a troll again.... (girl number Q and career in comp sci Q)
 
user15026
@RobertHarvey My parents didn't get not-dialup til 2011
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
Eeek.
 
user41796
@RobertHarvey I always thought the modem tones were more of a squeak than an eeek, but to each their own.
 
user15026
4:48 PM
They're relatively rural in a river valley so there wasn't a lot of options. Now they have high speed over microwave relay off a neighbour's silo. It works decently well.
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
At this rate, I'm going to burn through my close votes in the next 10 minutes.
 
user15026
I feel bad that I am so useless to you guys :(
 
user41796
@AshleyNunn One day you'll bring cupcakes. And all will be forgiven.
 
user55340
@AshleyNunn You could answer a question or two and we could dump 3k of bounty on it... though that would probably raise a few eyebrows.
 
user55340
Between Robert, Glen, and myself... I'm fairly sure we could spare 1k each.
 
user55340
4:54 PM
(I'm not serious about that... as I said, I think it would raise too many eyebrows)
 
user41796
@MichaelT Just think of the "promotions by bounty" that Robert could do over on SO...
 
user15026
@GlenH7 This is true :)
 
user55340
@GlenH7 and kittens!
 
enderland
enderland
5:31 PM
@AshleyNunn hey me too! though we can delete their chat comments, that's useful right???
.... what is this? — enderland 5 secs ago
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
Y'know, it's interesting that I got so much pushback for my "Don't use EDIT in your posts" question on Meta. When it got closed, I just deleted it and went back to editing EDIT out of people's posts. Nobody has ever complained about that, not even once.
 
user15026
@enderland Oh yes I never considered that :P
 
user15026
@enderland We may never know.
 
user41796
@RobertHarvey I dropped an <!-- EDIT Just for Robert Harvey --> comment in an answer I revised the other day.
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
Pfft.
 
enderland
enderland
5:38 PM
wow you guys have a ton of on hold questions on your main page
searching for a "could I answer this" gets tricky
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
It's September. School's in session.
 
user41796
@enderland Time to go on a downvoting binge and knock 'em off the front page?
 
enderland
enderland
heh I only need like 1700 rep to start CVing stuff! lol
 
user55340
2
Q: How to model users accounts in ASP MVC Framework with Entity Framework using code-first approach?

joeHow do you design your code-first approach in entity framework when your code should include user data (name, password...) without repeating/overwriting what the MVC framework will generate in terms of user tables, classes, authorization and authentication As simple example, if i have an applica...

design asp.net-mvc entity-framework codefirst
 
user55340
Its even got a bounty on it.
 
Ampt
Ampt
5:42 PM
I like that it picked out the periods and said "Nah, those are the same"
 
enderland
enderland
why'd you reject that edit man, clearly was adding value!
 
Ampt
Ampt
@enderland I missed the approve button. Whoops.
 
enderland
enderland
Ok I just downvoted 40 questions. yikes
 
Ampt
Ampt
well your downvotes are non-binding so I guess that's ok
thanks wordpress.SE... real great question you have there..
 
enderland
enderland
5:57 PM
Try Programmers Chat for this sort of discussion. — enderland 24 secs ago
 
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