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Matt S.
Matt S.
12:19 AM
Does anyone have any recommendations for who to purchase domain names from?
 
Ampt
Ampt
12:31 AM
@MattS. Google
 
Matt S.
Matt S.
google sells domains?
Well that makes things so much simpler
 
 
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user55340
2:17 AM
Whee! (back home)
 
user55340
I think the interview went well... as an aside, many of the interviewers knew my brother. One even initially thought I was my brother but some dates weren't lining up and I didn't have any military service on my resume (they remember when he joined the Navy).
 
enderland
enderland
2:35 AM
@MichaelT Nice! This the school one?
 
user55340
@enderland Yep.
 
enderland
enderland
I'm writing out STAR examples for my own life right now, hehe
 
user55340
On the way out, I stopped by the old lab I used to hang out in... its different, but the same.
 
user55340
The laptop I had in my bag was more powerful than the most powerful machine we had in the lab (HP Snake) when I was in school... and that was powerful machine back then.
 
enderland
enderland
technology has a way of doing that...
 
user55340
2:38 AM
HP PA-RISC from '96 ram at 132 MHz. A 64kb DCache and 64kb Lcache... a memory bus of 960 MB/s...
 
user55340
Lets see.. an i7 runs at 3 Ghz... with lots of other numbers too.
 
user55340
Just the... yea, things are different.
 
enderland
enderland
Probably a more effective 3Ghz too
 
user55340
So the central computing that we had isn't there anymore. But at the same time, its the same type of people in the lab. Mentioned a good class for them to take was business writing. One guy jokingly put his fingers in his ears and went 'la la la la la'
 
user41796
2:58 AM
@JimmyHoffa several thoughts. Will put together a reply in the AM.
 
user41796
@MichaelT - props; glad it went well. Inferred connection likely can't hurt.
 
user55340
If my brother had realized that it was for the CSL rather than DoIT, he would have stopped by on the way in - just to say hello to the guys he used to work with.
 
user55340
The professor I talked with briefly at the start graduated a year after me with his bachelors.
 
user55340
We reminisced a bit about some of the odd things of back then... "302 was in pascal" - "oh, the macs in the basement?" - "yep". And "I had professor DeWit's first class in C++" - "Oh yea, that was a bit of a challenge to build all the systems to work with it and get the kinks out of the ciriculum... dumping a bunch of sophomores that had C (or pascal) into a class and saying "here's C++, lets build a tree!" was a challenge."
 
Ampt
Ampt
4:02 AM
@JimmyHoffa I would say if they are software related positions, put em on there. the only reason I would cut positions is to save space on a paper resume, or because they aren't related to the job you want. I'm not sure that either of those apply.
@MichaelT I'm happy to hear it went so well!
Always good when you can hit it off with the interviewers
 
 
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Fedora
Fedora
6:55 AM
What technology should I use to build website like Quora (Q & A)? And How should I approach building something like that?
I heard Quora is built by Python and Javascript. I was thinking about doing it by PHP. What is better ? Python or PHP ? Also does Quora uses only Python and Javascript ? What about HTML and CSS ?
 
 
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user41796
11:28 AM
@Fedora Use whatever you know best. When tackling a project like that, picking a new language will only get in your way.
 
user15026
I don't know if I should be sad or happy I had to take a day off today because I feel like I have been hit by a truck who then backed up and did it a few more times.
 
user15026
I am kinda frustrated I got sick in the middle of training but at the same time, less people are relying on me to exist than they would if I was on the floor already.
 
user15026
I just hope it is a one day thing.
 
Ampt
Ampt
2:06 PM
Has Woodworking.SE reached it's commitment goal yet?
@AshleyNunn
Step 1. Drink ALL the Orange Juice.
Step 2. Feel better
@Fedora Which would win in a fight, a Gorilla or a Shark?
If you want to know what technology quora is built on, why don't you ask them?
No, no one uses HTML and CSS for building websites anymore.
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@Ampt nope
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Woodworking

Proposed Q&A site for professional woodworkers, craftsmen, furniture builders, turners, hobbyists, and anyone experienced in creating objects with wood.

Currently in commitment.

 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
2:57 PM
@ratchetfreak I wonder how expensive it is to build furniture vs. buying it... seems easy and fun to do, just not sure whether it's worth it... Probably is...maybe...
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
quality wood doesn't come cheap
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@ratchetfreak nobody said anything about quality, I'm just wondering if materials alone would be cheaper than buying for normal basic things- I bought a full bar-height table for a kitchen island that's solid wood for like $60 new- would I be able to get materials to do such myself for less?
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
for furniture you'll want to use a hardwood so it won't wither away after a few bumps
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
(I'm a cheapskate- I don't optimize for quality so much as cost/time, so not the cheapest because I weight for durability)
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
and hardwood is more expensive than softwood
a tabletop can be made with some wide boards glued side by side
but you'll need to put some hard on top to make it last long enough to be worth it
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
3:03 PM
@ratchetfreak what if I wanted to make some wooden bar-height dining chairs? It seems easy to do- but all the wood necessary to make one out of like cherry + cost of the varnish would set a person back ? $50? $100? (ballpark guess?)
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
but that can be done by gluing 1/4" thick tiles on top
no idea I haven't had to buy any wood yet
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
ah so it's just a thought experiment for you too
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@RobertHarvey the cross poster:
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Q: What are the general techniques for collecting data about user behavior in an application?

Robert HarveyClearly one way to do it is to hand-roll specific things into an application, much like one might use Console.WriteLine() to view the contents of a variable, or the StopWatch() class to see how long something takes to execute. But you can use a profiler in lieu of StopWatch, and you can use a de...

mmo
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa If time is a factor in your decision, then building is pretty much out of the question
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt nope.
Like I said, sounds like a fun way to spend some time
I've been milling about with the idea of building a butcher block for years...
 
Ampt
Ampt
3:12 PM
that's fun and easy
just pick some hard wood and an appropriate finish
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
aye I figure
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
isn't that a block of wood planed down?
 
Ampt
Ampt
(don't ask me what kind of finish, no clue for food grade stuff)
if I had to guess, I would guess something acrylic as it's very hard
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
I'd like to shellac it
and traditionally a butcher block is a bunch of blocks of wood
 
Ampt
Ampt
yep. just glue em together
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
3:13 PM
@JimmyHoffa you mean with the end grain pointing up?
 
Ampt
Ampt
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
easier on the knife but will warp when wet
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
that's a butcher block
 
Ampt
Ampt
No, end grain not up.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@ratchetfreak ? the Wood?
a butcher block is effectively a cutting board for a counter is all
 
user41796
3:15 PM
@JimmyHoffa shellac is generally food grade safe, but generally most people use food grade mineral oil
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
endgrain cutting boards will wick up moisture very quickly and then start warping
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@GlenH7 aye I know; I ponder back and forth, the shellac would be less friendly to the blade than the wood I'd think, plus you can't clean up shellac
 
user41796
um, actually you can clean up shellac
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
oh?
 
user41796
it'll break down with alcohol
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
3:16 PM
I mean like the mars and such
ah
 
user41796
but I'd still go with mineral spirits / oil
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
so I could just rub it with some rubbing alcohol after it's all chipped up from the blade for a while?
 
user41796
I wouldn't use rubbing alcohol
 
user41796
rubbing alcohol is methanol, which is poisonous
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@GlenH7 and awesome! Who needs an optic nerve?
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
3:18 PM
@GlenH7 aka not something to put on your cutting board
 
user41796
Yeah, pretty much
 
user41796
and it evaporates off so the wood isn't protected
 
user41796
shellaced board + rubbing alcohol will simply ruin the finish
 
user41796
but you can strip shellac with rubbing alcohol and then reseal with more shellac
 
user41796
It's a very durable and easily repaired finish
 
user41796
3:19 PM
If you haven't, you should commit to woodworkers and then that question could be asked there. :-)
 
user41796
And generally speaking, it's cheaper to buy cheap furniture than it would be to construct
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
unless you can find wood for cheap
 
user41796
Manufacturers have the advantage of buying in bulk and they've already covered the cost of their equipment.
 
user41796
@ratchetfreak You also ought to put a value on your time.
 
user41796
You could also argue that Jimmy would just be studying Haskell instead which has zero value, so woodworking would actually be more productive. But that's just me pushing his buttons.
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ratchet freak
ratchet freak
3:21 PM
enthusiasts will often grab wood of the curb or cannibalize/recycle old things
 
user41796
@ratchetfreak yeah, not necessarily bad for cheap wood
 
user41796
most pallets I've seen lately have been using pine
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
@ratchetfreak It didn't get much love on Programmers, so.
 
user41796
@RobertHarvey It even hit the close review queue this AM
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
Probably because of that remarkably insightful answer that was posted to it earlier.
 
user41796
3:23 PM
It was ... amazingly well written, right?
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
/sarcasm
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@GlenH7 good to know- as with many things, economies of scale just make it not worth doing yourself
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@GlenH7 and can reuse scraps that a one-off wouldn't be able to
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
Take McDonalds for instance, they kill so many cows they have created a diet for me that's cheaper than anything I could come up with if I were to buy the components individually and they save me the time of doing the work!
 
user41796
@JimmyHoffa If you want to build higher quality stuff or with particular woods or particular stains, then custom is a good way to go
 
user41796
3:25 PM
but if you want cheap? Don't waste your time, you can't effectively compete.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@GlenH7 sure, but I've little care for quality of items as when it comes to materialistic things I'm a utilitarian..
 
user41796
@JimmyHoffa So we can thank McD's for keeping leather prices low?
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
IKEA is successful for a reason
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Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@GlenH7 and my knees swollen! Whoa!
 
user41796
Makes you appreciate the comfy leather couch all the more
 
user41796
3:28 PM
Did anybody else say "you gotta be kidding me?!" to that emailed patch question?
 
user41796
Projects actually work that way?
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
all kidding aside, I do enjoy a McDs cheeseburger on occasion...they're so much less greasy than actual restaurant burgers, I'm not entirely sure why they have such a bad rap. So long as you just get their "cheeseburger"-> anything else on their menu is 90% fat and filler
 
user41796
Disclosure: I used to work as a cook for McD's many eons ago
 
user41796
Overall, I was impressed by the quality of the ingredients they served up.
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa Or if you want to build to suit your needs
getting a cabinet just the right size to go next to the fridge ain't easy
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
3:30 PM
@JimmyHoffa the grease has to last the week don't put in on the customers bun
 
Ampt
Ampt
or a desk that's just the right size
;)
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
I don't feel well after I eat there. About the only thing I can safely eat is one of their grilled chicken sandwiches.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@ratchetfreak haha good point, efficiency!
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
Carl's actually makes me feel ill.
Wendy's is OK. 'Course, maybe that was back in the day when there was trans fat in everything.
 
user41796
I generally don't eat at Carl's / Hardees. Underwhelmed by the quality of the food.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
3:31 PM
I have a particularly low tolerance for fat/grease, most restaurant burgers make me feel pretty ill, at home I only ever buy the 93% or 97% lean. But McD's plain cheeseburger is basically like a little dried out protiene wafer
 
user41796
@RobertHarvey Wendy's has recently really upped their game and menu
 
Ampt
Ampt
@RobertHarvey Trans fat - because you can't list "Delicious" as an ingredient.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt true, but cabinets are a lot of work because you can't just do one- that would look awful
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa Agreed. and honestly I would leave stuff like cabinets to the professionals. You start getting on to that kind of a scale and it gets difficult, fast
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
I'm not sure "delicious" is an apt term for partially hydrogenated vegetable oil. I think you might be thinking of lard.
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
3:33 PM
@JimmyHoffa unless it's a stand-alone to store your knicknacks in the hall
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@ratchetfreak yeah sure, I'd be happy to make a cabinet for the garage...
 
Ampt
Ampt
it's one thing to make one cabinet cover and have it look good, but to do 12 of them, then have all of them not only look good, but look identical? Fuggedaboutit
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@Ampt the don't need to be identical
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
The WhiteBoard... Where you can talk about trans fat and cabinetry in the same sentence.
 
Ampt
Ampt
@ratchetfreak s/identical/consistent/g
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
3:34 PM
an interesting grain pattern can go a long way
 
Ampt
Ampt
they all need to be the same size/shape, roughly the same color, etc
i'll admit that identical isn't the ideal word
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@RobertHarvey oh yes, back on topic- I did enjoy a few fingers of Glen Fiddich last night. Handy way to wash away the shittiness of work.
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
unless you use veneer
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa I prefer to wash away shittiness with the tears of my enemies, but whatever floats your boat I guess
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt you've not had single malt yet is all that means
 
Ampt
Ampt
3:36 PM
@JimmyHoffa What, you don't think I run their tears through the still once or twice first? What am I, a heathen?
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
Glenfiddich
Glenfiddich is a Speyside single malt Scotch whisky owned and produced by William Grant & Sons in Dufftown, Scotland. Glenfiddich means ‘Valley of the Deer' in Scottish Gaelic, hence the presence of a stag symbol on Glenfiddich bottles. Glenfiddich is the world's best-selling single-malt whisky and also the most awarded at the International Spirits Challenge. == History == The Glenfiddich Distillery was founded in 1886 by William Grant in Dufftown, Scotland, in the glen of the River Fiddich. The Glenfiddich single malt whisky first ran from the stills on Christmas Day, 1887. In the 1920s, with...
This answer appears to be deletable. Can we pile on?
 
user41796
@Ampt Just takes patience and the right tools.
 
user41796
@RobertHarvey needs 1 more
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
The game dev folks said what I thought they would... "It's your application. Don't you already know?"
 
Ampt
Ampt
@GlenH7 eh, I think at that point you're looking at skill as an ingredient to that burger.
(See what I did there?)
 
user41796
3:40 PM
@Ampt Well played. Perhaps I'm a better woodworker than I realize.
 
Ampt
Ampt
@GlenH7 We may also be talking about different things. I'm talking about cabinetry you would put it your kitchen and show off to the world
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
Grades of wood... McD, Sirloin, Angus.
 
user41796
@Ampt yep, same here
 
Ampt
Ampt
@GlenH7 Maybe you are better than you think.
 
user41796
I was contemplating building the cabs for my kitchen remodel, but the only thing holding me back is available time.
 
user41796
3:43 PM
I may still look at a service that makes the doors and the make the actual cabinets. As the doors take up the most amount of time.
 
user41796
cabinets in this case are bog simple
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
Have you built cabinets before?
 
user41796
@RobertHarvey yep
 
user41796
and the doors. :-)
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
Ah, so you already know how long it takes. I have found that if you've never done it before, you have to apply software estimation techniques to it (i.e. triple your original estimate).
 
user41796
3:47 PM
@RobertHarvey that's very much true. It's too easy to forget about all the detailing steps that really add on to the timeline.
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
And the time it takes to figure out how to do it all. And run back to Home Depot because you forgot something, or have to replace a piece of wood because you cut it the wrong size, et. al.
Got a decent answer over at GameDev.
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A: How should I collect user behavior data in an MMO?

ZehelvionWe are using Command Oriented Architecture to audit user activity. It means that requests to the server, cause the server side to instantiate instances of classes that represent commands (atomic actions the user can preform). For instance, lets say the user makes a purchase in an item store: /...

 
user41796
Oy... Always buy more than what you need. HD is awesome about their returns.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@GlenH7 see this is one of the things I like about the idea of woodworking- in software you can't account for all the little details, it's impossible. Building simple things at home like this, I can sit down and look at it end to end and draw out full specs like a damned IKEA instruction sheet and account for the entire design and every detail
you can do the entire design up front, unlike in software
it could take me a long as I want to cover every detail- it wouldn't be time constrained, but no amount of time will fill the holes in your software designs up front, with software there's always discovery at implementation
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
except when you forget to include the hole for the door
actually with software you are always pioneering with woodworking you are often doing things that everyone else has done 15 different ways
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
And when you drill the hole in the wrong place in software, it's easier to fix.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
3:56 PM
@ratchetfreak the only thing I think would really not be obvious to account for without experience as you draw up the detailed spec- is the effect of the work on the wood itself, as you do things to the wood different parts may swell, and you have to account for how it may split etc
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@RobertHarvey put in a plug and drill again
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
I think the biggest reason you can kind of fit everything in your head with physical things like that you might build is because you have interacted with them every day for your entire life, and not just a small part of them- their whole guts are generally visible unlike in software
@RobertHarvey if I can follow IKEA instructions, I should hope I could manage to follow my own (I probably couldn't...)
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
except with IKEA it's hard to put the wood the wrong way
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
(now precision things like hanging a door? Absolutely no way I'm going to do something like that)
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
it's very easy to mix up your blanks and put the hole on the wrong side
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
3:59 PM
@ratchetfreak true
but still...have you built something from IKEA? It's like someone's trying to film tim burton's new The Nightmare Before Your Living Room...
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
of course a misplaced hole isn't that bad, a misplaced tenon is worse
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa It's more about squaring your door frame when you put up the wall than hanging the door itself.
@ratchetfreak It's a weight saving feature!
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt is that why my damned bedroom door really likes to rest somewhere around 30% open?
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@JimmyHoffa probably
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa absolutely could be, yeah.
put up a level on that wall and see where it's leaning
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
4:05 PM
balls. I was just blaming whoever hung the shitty cheapo doors to "fix it up" before they sold me the place
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
put a plumbline from the top hinge to the bottom hinge and see if it is off
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
(more irritating is the doors that in the summer swell and don't shut cleanly)
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa sounds like your frame not be square
Today on the whiteboard: Why your house is broken, and how to collect insurance money after the "fire"
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Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
The why's simple enough, it's 40 years old; Denver's not the cheapest of housing markets :o
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
4:19 PM
just looked out of curiosity, and we're 23rd among national metro areas for median single family house cost- I didn't think we were that expensive... basically areas in CA, NY, HI, and Seattle are more expensive than here. At that my house is going to be worth way more than I have into it in 10 years :D Crooked fuckin' doors or not
 
Ampt
Ampt
anyone good with ant?
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
Maybe.
 
whatsisname
whatsisname
man I am stuck in COM hell right now
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@whatsisname that lovely space inbetween assembly GUIDs, major/minor versions, and string marshalling? Yes, COM hell is a right delightful land...
 
Ampt
Ampt
@ThomasOwens We're deploying our stacks to new servers (tomcat, and the applications running on that tomcat instance) and my boss wants to use ant + filter files
I feel like this is a solved problem though
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
4:35 PM
@Ampt ant for deployment? Why? There's much better deployment tools these days, ant may still be a viable build tool if your stuck in some old stuff but deployment?
 
Ampt
Ampt
Good, I'm not crazy
 
whatsisname
whatsisname
I am dealing with variables that change seemingly randomly due to weird BSTR allocation nonsense
 
Ampt
Ampt
what are people using these days? Chef?
puppet?
are there free alternatives?
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
gzip?
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
 
Ampt
Ampt
4:36 PM
@ratchetfreak eh?? Gzip for deployment?
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt I looked at Chef and Puppet for our deployment automation, they both looked good and in playing with Chef I found it quite easy to work with- I would encourage it.
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
ftp upload to the deployment server and ssh in and unzip there
 
Ampt
Ampt
@ratchetfreak I don't think we're talking about the same thing :)
@JimmyHoffa Do you have to pay for it? Or just for support?
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt don't know what kind of support can be bought- didn't look at that. It's free (open source if I recall?)
spend 30 minutes, install it try and setup one of those cookbooks from that tutorial and see if you can get a single machine playing nicely with it- should take no time and you'll know more about whether it's viable than any other way.
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@Ampt why use a fancy deployment setup when you can just SSH into the production server and deploy there
 
Ampt
Ampt
4:48 PM
@ratchetfreak because we have 2 dozen production/test/dev/QA servers to manage
and while managing all of those by hand sounds fun...
wait... no that doesn't sound fun at all.
plus more will be stood up/dropped as clients change
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
then use batch scripts for some rudimentary automation ;P
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@ratchetfreak ah c'mon, what's wrong with using tools explicitly built for this purpose that have repositories of scripts other people have already written? :P
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa Back in my day all we had was scp and we liked it!
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
That's all Chef is- an agent that executes the scripts and a repo of scripts other people have written for all the various technologies out there, so you can use scripts someone else wrote for restarting your <blank> server, or creating/installing an instance of it for your new app on machines that don't already have it installed, or updating instances of it, saving you from writing all those scripts that do those things yourself
 
whatsisname
whatsisname
I love when windows points a bunch of different strings to the same place in memory
 
user55340
5:15 PM
@Ampt Needs 200.
 
user55340
One of the interesting interview questions "If you were to give a visiting lecture talk to CS students, what would it be on?"
 
user55340
The strange world of photography Q&A:
 
user55340
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Q: Considerations for Photographing a Nude Wedding

JazzaI'm an amateur photographer that has helped out on a couple of wedding shoots for friends and family. I've been approached by someone looking for a photographer willing to shoot a nude wedding. I have no idea of the venue or whether the wedding will take place indoors or outdoors, but can anyone ...

wedding nude-photography
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
5:32 PM
@MichaelT all your aunts and uncles and cousins....ewww...
 
Ampt
Ampt
@MichaelT What would your topic be on?
 
user55340
@Ampt business writing, the importance of marketing and accounting for independent contractors (something a lot of fresh college grads do "I'll make cheap websites!"), and what to know about contract law and licensing.
 
user55340
@JimmyHoffa Not necessarily your aunts and uncles... but still, yea.
 
user55340
@JimmyHoffa Though, also consider the advantages... no tux / dress rental... no ugly bridesmaid dresses.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@MichaelT there's no guarantee on that ugly qualifier there...
 
user55340
5:46 PM
@JimmyHoffa Nope... but its likely much cheaper to deal with and less issue of contention. Everyone is already wearing something they've already got.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
I'm no longer participating in this conversation.
 
Ampt
Ampt
@MichaelT I actually had a lot of fun in my contract law class. Helped me a lot with my understanding of the legal system
 
user55340
@JimmyHoffa probably for the best.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt that was the theoretical legal system, that one's only available in physical form to those with enough money to afford it. (I am so cynical! It's awesome!) :D
 
user55340
@Ampt Its one of those things that when I was a CS person, most people didn't worry about. There was the MIT license, BSD, and then some other ones. But 'open source' wasn't even a name yet to worry about. And you didn't have quite the same 'everyone needs coders' independent developer world.
 
Ampt
Ampt
5:52 PM
@JimmyHoffa Actually the judicial system, in my opinion, is one of the better parts of the system as a whole
@MichaelT Mine was more general. we didn't get into the finer points of software, but more on general contracts, different types of contracts, how they can and can't apply, how the common law system works, etc.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt I completely agree! It's just a pay-for-use system, that's the only real problem with it.
the way it actually works is pretty great
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa I agree, the barrier to entry can be high for most people
but I suppose that keeps a lot of the frivolous junk out of the court and on judge judy
 
psr
psr
@JimmyHoffa Pay dearly, and the other side can pay extra to force you to pay extra.
 
user55340
@Ampt The thing I was more getting at was that contract law wasn't something that entry level people dealt with. If you were entry level contractor, you were working for another company as an umbrella most often. Not quite the same '22 year old coder setting up wordpress custom sites'
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt that's a pernicious meme that those who benefit from the barrier spread. Truth is the frivolous sorts are banking on a reward-for-investment idea where the investment is to get over the barrier, and they benefit from using that barrier against those they're bringing actions against.
 
Ampt
Ampt
5:55 PM
@MichaelT Yeah but it's important to know about contracts as an independent contracter too. I agree that most entry level people under an umbrella (shout out to me!) don't deal with it, but if you're independent you can be
@JimmyHoffa Again, not saying the system is perfect, and that yes, abuse does happen, but no system is perfect.
 
user55340
@Ampt Independent contractor you handle it all yourself. When umbrellaed you've got the company to help you (and screw you over).
 
user55340
Though most shops weren't after contractors... they wanted FTE back then. Especially dot com boom days when cash was in shorter supply than stock.
 
Ampt
Ampt
Is there room for improvement? Yes. Is it completely broken and unsalvageable? No.
And I think the saturated legal market is going to help with that.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt I get that- just saying the meme you just repeated is wholey disputable
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa I dispute your dispution.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
6:00 PM
People who want to commit fraud are happy to pay up front for the rewards. Case-in-point patent trolls.
Fraud pays well, fraudsters can afford legal services
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa and there has been a large backlash against patent trolls, and legislation stemming from that
 
user55340
Hmm... didn't realize that WI had an anti-patent troll law.
 
Ampt
Ampt
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
> â–  New state legal needs studies have added depth to a body of social science knowledge that has produced consistent findings for a decade and a half, documenting that only a small fraction of the legal problems experienced by low-income people (less than one in five) are addressed with the assistance of either a private attorney (pro bono or paid) or a legal aid lawyer.
>
> â–  Analysis of the most recent available figures on attorney employment shows that nationally, on the average, only one legal aid attorney is available for every 6,415 low-income people. By comparison, there is one priv…
 
Ampt
Ampt
How is attorneys/low-income people a useful metric? How many people is required to generate a valid court case?
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
6:08 PM
> A growing body of research indicates that outcomes for unrepresented litigants are often less favorable than those for represented litigants.
 
Ampt
Ampt
Yes... if you don't bring a lawyer, you perform worse. In other news, pilots are apparently more capable of landing planes than those who have not been trained.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt read some of that governmental report I linked, is interesting.
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
Is there a dead-simple way to just drag-drop some MP3's to an iPod?
God, I'm so sick of iTunes.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@RobertHarvey yeah, first you buy a windows phone... oh wait. :)
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
More importantly, how do you get music off an iPod without losing it?
 
Ampt
Ampt
6:19 PM
@RobertHarvey Winamp
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@ThomasOwens spill blood on your steve jobs shrine (You do have one of those right? If not, I can explain why your iPod is randomly losing music already...)
 
Ampt
Ampt
@ThomasOwens Winamp
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
@JimmyHoffa It's not losing music.
It's that if you sync, the music files aren't on the PC anymore.
So I think it'll wipe the files from the iPod and it'll be gone.
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
How feature-creeped is Winamp? Sharepod used to work, but then they got all sophistimacated, and I don't know how to use it anymore.
 
Ampt
Ampt
Winamp is currently out of dev, but should work
I agree that it's a swiss army knife when you need a corkscrew, but at least it's not itunes
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
6:20 PM
"It really whips the llama's ass" ==> Best catch-phrase ever.
 
Ampt
Ampt
Granted last time I used it was with my iPod 3.5G (The first video ipod whaaat)
 
user55340
@ThomasOwens what system are you using?
 
user55340
For example, do you have a mac?
 
Ampt
Ampt
I'm guessing a Dell with windows 7
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
@MichaelT I have a Windows machine and a Mac, but the Mac has been linked to the iPod. The Windows machine has not been.
 
user55340
6:24 PM
The trick (IIRC) is to mount the entire ipod as a drive and then just go grab what you're after.
 
user55340
and this is a pre-ios ipod?
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
Will the files (they have obscured names) have the metadata?
@MichaelT Yeah. It's not a touch. It's an old school nano, I think.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt swiss army knife or not, I still use it- still with the old winamp3 skin just because it works so bloody well (or maybe I have some "classic" version installed?), it still is faster overall and easier to work with for general playlist stuff than anything else I've touched..
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa I'm all about that streaming music at this point. The quality is of an acceptable level finally
used to be streaming was 96Kbps
 
user55340
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
6:28 PM
Thanks.
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt I listen to soma on it, or otherwise just if you point it at a drive it gives you the easiest way to "play all this in folder X" or "Add everything from this folder to current playlist" which is really all you need- all the other players always want to scan every damned file and give you some library which can take forever causing it to be irritating when I want to point it at a new location, or if the tags aren't all perfect...
 
user55340
There is also support.apple.com/kb/HT4527 if you aren't opposed to iTunes (mac) to iTunes (win)
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa Oh I agree, it's my app of choice when I've got music on my computer, but it's been a long while since I've used one of those
I jumped on to google music as soon as that went live, and now I'm on spotify
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
ah yeah that makes sense
 
Ampt
Ampt
I listen to music on like 3-4 devices regularly, so having the music on the cloud is awesome
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
6:30 PM
Some portion of my library is from MS' streaming service just because I use windows phone
 
Ampt
Ampt
and I'm fine with paying a monthly fee to get all the music I could want whenever I want in high quality
@JimmyHoffa Did I ever tell you I tried windows phone for a week?
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
otherwise I just pop the stuff I want onto the devices directly that I use so I don't have to worry about network usage
@Ampt which one?
 
user55340
I've got a mac ecosystem, so thats what works for me.
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa HTC One M8 for Windows
Absolutely awesome phone
Couldn't stand windows
I couldn't figure out the UI to save my life
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt haha the metro style drove you nuts?
 
Ampt
Ampt
6:32 PM
and the number of ads on EVERY app was insane
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
yeah, I didn't like it for the first ~month? Then it just clicked and now I love it
 
Ampt
Ampt
I'm on the iphone 5s now and I love it
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
I love the metro style for touch, it just took a while to get used to it because it's so different from everything else... for desktops? Metro is dumb.
biggest thing I like about windows phone is the universal back button; consistent across all apps and goes through all apps where android's back button is all app specific controlled by the app instead of windows phone's back button is an OS level behaviour
actually all 3 of those buttons on the phone are OS level, so they've got consistency in every app you use
but yeah, if you don't like/can't get used to the metro style, it's not the system for you
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
MediaMonkey is awesome. Took me five minutes to go from installation to getting music files on my iPod.
That's how applications should be designed. Hell, they even have extensive tooltips. I thought I was the only developer who did that.
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
@MichaelT Wait, that works to get music files already on an iPod off the iPod?
They were added to the iPod with iTunes, so they are in some obscured format.
 
user55340
6:37 PM
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
> Although the filenames of the songs will be scrambled, their ID3 tags will be intact, so you'll be able to navigate the songs as usual on your computer or another iPod.
PErfect.
 
user55340
I think I did the advanced approach once.
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
I'll do the Windows approach.
The Mac is on its last legs.
It's a white MacBook. Back from when MacBooks were a thing. 4 or 5 years old, at least.
 
Robert Harvey
Robert Harvey
FWIW programs like MediaMonkey that have file drag/drop capability allow you to go in both directions.
 
user55340
part of cat / laptop attraction may be that the laptop is warming up my lap.
 
Ampt
Ampt
6:58 PM
I thought you were trying to cat laptop to your root dir... I need to close my console for a bit...
 
user55340
@Ampt no, this is the cat helping with fuzz testing the other day.
 
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