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@Seth If I disable it than Windows 10 would not boot

That's strange. Boots just fine for me without secureboot.

I guess I can enable/disable it when it is needed

It's a new PC by Dell

Journeyman Geek

I thought ubuntu had a shim for secureboot?

12:31 AM

@MathCubes You're welcome! Good night

@JourneymanGeek Any Linux

Been driving me nuts for the past few months

Journeyman Geek

@MathCubes I know fedora runs without any issues, but that's got a properly signed secureboot enabled bootloader.

Let me try restarting

into F8 settings

@JourneymanGeek Havn't tried Fedora

@JourneymanGeek should work fine.

Journeyman Geek

I could try it, but my only properly secureboot enabled machine runs my home server

12:37 AM

@JourneymanGeek @MathCubes It should since 12.04.2

However @MathCubes read also the second answer, maybe that's the case

Q: Packages suddenly not available in bash

1:47 AM

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I'm running Linux Mint 17.2. I use Vim every day, and so was surprised to type vim into bash and see this: > vim The program 'vim' can be found in the following packages: * vim * vim-gnome * vim-tiny * vim-athena * vim-gtk * vim-nox Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package> The same ...

Vtc because mint

2:26 AM

hmm, I can't get VMWare Player to start.

It just silently exits 1.

chaskes

There always slow in repsonding to kernel changes. There's an answer or 2 about the fixes that are needed. Have you tried that yet?

@chaskes nope. Haven't had a moment to Google anything yet.

ah cool, found it now. Got it working.

chaskes

cool

3:45 AM

And this is why I "love" Gnome.

One of the commenters gets it:

> "The annoyance that this bug causes on my hardware is much less troubling than the level of 'we know best' design arrogance expressed in this thread."

yup. "GNOME: the de-facto standard for less features and no customizations."

@NathanOsman nail on the head man!

I wonder if I could apply the patch and get the package into a PPA...

I don't see why Ubuntu wouldn't apply the patch though. There's no reason they have to suffer at the hands of the Gnome people.

Oh, lol. This is the best comment on the thread:

> "LibreGNOME anyone? Eh, eh?"

I'm definitely putting this into a PPA.

4:02 AM

@NathanOsman The Gnome people might disagree with that >.<

Puts on his quilt hat.

I'm going to make this work.

Q: Editing existing answers by adding additional information

4:45 AM

Next challenge - version numbers...

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I'm pretty new to AskUbuntu's review section. IMHO, I review by doing some search before taking any decisions. But, hey! that is me. My question is, do we allow editing averagely voted answers with adding few more information? e.g.: What is the linux-image-extra package for and do I need it? ...

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5:05 AM

I just got the second HDD caddy ( "fake" dvd drive, which acts as second HDD bay for laptop ) . . . and I'm just thinking "What kind of m0ron was designing this?" The panel on the "front", outer part of the "DVD" drive is rectangular, which doesn't follow the shape of the hole . . . so i had to take that panel off . . . But now I have two drives in my laptop, yay for that

5:48 AM

Hrm... the patch doesn't work.

6:07 AM

How do you allow a VM to capture media keys being pressed?

all those hotkeys in mutt, I'm afraid to unnecessarly touch my keyboard

there is this problem with all command line programs - each is completely different from another, each uses different user interface, different keybindings, each requires to read a long manual before doing anything in it. Welcome to the 80s, I guess?

I hope that one day there will not be a single copy of them left.

I wonder how everything organised in emacs-OS... Maybe slightly better than raw bash...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in username, blacklisted user: What is the easiest graphic card to install in 14.04? by tapsisarkar on askubuntu.com

I wonder if it's possible to throw bash out of linux. It wouldn't be a linux then, huh... I guess not, not possible.

I want to run ls in source-level debugger, line by line, what should I do for that? Preferrably using vim, I already have it somewhat configured.

6:38 AM

I wonder, which is the list of mutt keys are really necessary keys, and which are needed once a year

@PeretFinctor It's quite possible, some of the distros use different default shells than bash

The reason why bash is so popular is because until recently it was like the only free, non proprietary shell. Korn shell , which is default on solaris I think, haven't been released to public domain until like after 2000 or something, but dont quote me on that

@PeretFinctor as for source-level debugger, I'd say get the coreutils source and run it with gdb . . . but i am no expert in that department, i only have faint idea

@Serg hmm, are there any distros without any shell whatsoever, having only GUI and api calls (or what linux have).

Maybe replacing shell with something like python, something...

I need to learn more about linux architecture (dispite not knowing bash properly)

(Learning just to forget)

(and get rid of)

@PeretFinctor Well . . . shell is kind of necessary aspect , so i doubt there is any GUI-only OS. . . Even windows , which claims to be all about GUI, is has cmd shell . As for replacing the shell with python . . . .maybe . . .There is ipython interactive shell . . . But i've not heard of that type of hackery yet

aah, I have so many questions, but askubuntu will explode if I'll ask them all

I can't understand why this patch doesn't do anything...

gnome-settings-daemon doesn't even seem to be installed by default...

6:50 AM

@PeretFinctor hehe, as long as you ask something related to Ubuntu on this site, you are safe, and trust me - askubuntu can handle it all

yeah, deleting them is just a few clicks

WTF ? Laptop with Windows 8.1 = 779$ . . . .With windows 10, same model is . . .599 $ O_O

Dafuq is going on ? Same thing with another laptop . . . Is Win 8.1 better than 10 or something ?

Can't understand how maillists work. There really is no way to look for an older posts? You just subscribe, and then wait? Pretty much like irc, huh.

I need to search for something simplier than mutt. Something that have as little buttons as possible.

7:09 AM

How does one figure out which package is responsible for what happens when I press the volume keys?

@NathanOsman volume keys are set in gsettigns, i believe

gsettings list-recursively | grep key | grep media

Puzzled Boy

hi anyone is familier with SVN use on netBeans.

7:24 AM

smb doesn't show some of my files for some reason. Renaming them doesn't help, but copying does.

@Serg yup, but which process actually applies the volume?

I thought it was "gnome-settings-daemon" but apparently it isn't.

That package isn't installed on my Vivid VM.

Is there a better way to find a purpose of a running process than by googling it's name?

@PeretFinctor um . . . .man pages . . . .get the command and then just run man <command-name>. If you don't have man page for it, then google

@NathanOsman but you do have dconf , right ? Aren't those two used interchangeably ? I am on blackbox right now, without gnome-settings-daemon , volume keys don't work. I have to use alsamixer.

so i am kind of betting more on gnome-settings-daemon . . . .which also is the same as unity-settings-daemon

@Serg I mean those things I have in system monitor. Like unity-panel-service, hud-service, system-service-d, geoclue-master, etc.

They are always here, and I have no idea what's they are for.

Q: Is ubuntu-geoip (GeoClue) used for tracking?

xieerqi:$ man unity-panel-service | head
unity-panel-service(1)        Linux User's Manual       unity-panel-service(1)



NAME
       unity-panel-service  -  program  for  drawing  the panel with the unity
       shell.

Man pages are the place to start :)

Also, some of these services are actually scripts, which you could read . . .Particularly anything in /etc/init folder is a script. Meanwhile, hub-service and geoclue-master, are actually executable binary files, so you can't read them . . .

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I am happily learning Ubuntu more closely now. I came across the process ubuntu-geoip-provider in system monitor. Is is used for tracking or for gathering nearest server info, or for syncing time with Internet, or perhaps for all these things? I searched for it but not enough information came th...

process services privacy

7:39 AM

Um, that's a good hint, thanks

I'll take my leave for tonight, but i will be back in 6 hours. o/

@Serg unity-settings-daemon... why didn't I think of that.

Thanks a lot!

9:22 AM

for all you 32bit Chrome users (ANY Ubuntu version) + ALL 12.04 chrome users - you should now use another browser ... Google are no longer providing updates and security fixes. You have been warned - groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/chromium-dev/FoE6sL-p6oU/…

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Q: Upstart process listed as stop/waiting

9:40 AM

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I have this upstart script When I run: sudo start poxa it starts the process but when I run: initctl list it shows me that is is stop/waiting but when I check ps aux | grep poxa it show the process. And, as expected, when I try to stop it: sudo stop poxa it returns: stop: unknown instance: # U...

scripts upstart services

9:59 AM

big hammer applied

@fossfreedom google does not support Ubuntu no longer?

or just precise?

@xiaodongjie just precise - and just 32bit chrome users

yes.

10:53 AM

@StefanoPalazzo: just got word from ResearchGate: the answer is negative, but thanks for the opportunity anyway! ;-) :-)

@fossfreedom You say 32bit... Is 64bit still supported?

11:13 AM

@Oli groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chromium-dev/…

64bits still suported

11:39 AM

I wish I could disable updates in my firefox. It screwed it's interface without any warning one day.

Q: Nagios Alert SSH CRITICAL - Socket timeout after 10 seconds

@PeretFinctor The problem with Firefox (and Chrome) is they don't really do long-term support on any of the branches. You have the latest and "greatest" or you have a vulnerable browser.

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I am getting nagios alert as : SSH CRITICAL 12-01-2015 11:17:56 4d 20h 51m 32s 4/4 CRITICAL - Socket timeout after 10 seconds Other Nagios alert on same server seems ok Merch : Current Load OK 12-01-2015 11:18:51 4d 20h 42m 1s 1/4 OK - load average: 0.00, 0...

ubuntu ssh nagios nrpe

Firefox does have extended support releases but they only last a year. Nowhere near the support Ubuntu usually gives things.

@Oli for now ;-)

Can somebody show me an example of site which successfully exploints a browser vulnerability?

For me updates are bigger threat than exploits. Exploits never did anything to me yet, but updates break things all the time.

11:44 AM

@PeretFinctor That you know of.

When I less expect it.

@PeretFinctor ubuntu related exploit?

@Rinzwind ubuntu and browser related.

@Rinzwind no, ubuntu only is interesting too

This one was big in 2012: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackhole_exploit_kit

"Ensuring that the browser, browser's plugins, and operating system are up to date. The Blackhole exploit kit targets vulnerabilities in old versions of browsers such as Firefox, Google Chrome, Internet Explorer and Safari as well as many popular plugins like Adobe Flash, Adobe Acrobat and Java."

and here a topic on AU: askubuntu.com/questions/149897/…

Competitions like Pwn2Own should be enough to remind you that security threats are constantly evolving. They use remote attacks (user visits web page) to gain access to computers.

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11:52 AM

Um, I want to change my useragent now. To something prehistoric, just so those kits will try in vain.

I wonder what bugs exactly those kits exploited...

I'll probably wouldn't understand them anyway, why do I ask then?

Only in Russia highly qualificated programmers have to do such shit as exploit kits. Why couldn't they just get a normal job.

@PeretFinctor Because organised crime pays well?

@Oli Maybe because nothing else does?

Sure

Are where any exploits for w3m?

I'm pretty sure that's updates rarely.

I really want to live without web browser one day. It's one of the most complex programs on my system, which means one of the most problematic.

I wonder what's popular today.

12:32 PM

I like how people are getting reputation by being funny in the comments. I should try that too.

@A.B. Cute wolves! :-)

terdon

@PeretFinctor Comment upvotes don't give you rep. Just a warm fuzzy feeling.

@OLI is this not better suited on U&: http://askubuntu.com/questions/704320/very-small-sized-ubuntu-distro
The answer is: not with Ubuntu but all the answers are all "other" OS'es

@Rinzwind depends what they mean by "small distro" - for example - I've just created a minimal lubuntu live CD that was size less than 500Mb.

12:54 PM

Know of good cli mail clients?

Is there any guru or half-god in here that can navigate a poor souls system without a working libc6 version? He downgraded and now most stuff stopped working, of course. I fear it's impossible, or does anyone know a trick? askubuntu.com/q/704583/367990

Or maybe good mail clients in general? The one I use requires too much memory.

@PeretFinctor I only use good old Thunderbird... Probably not as lightweight as you want.

@PeretFinctor I use N1. Not sure if it is very lightweight

@ByteCommander not sure - if its just "files" that your are referring to - then booting from a live CD, mounting the hard-drive and copying & replacing files on the HDD would work.

1:03 PM

@Rinzwind It sounds like they want to strip down Ubuntu (or install a smaller version). Sounds on-topic here to me.

Denis

hello, I'm not sure if it's the right place but I have a problem with my Linux mint and none of the stuff of the forum helps

@Denis Unix & Linux

Denis

thanks Oli

@fossfreedom OP downgraded his libc6 version to an older one, and now most stuff that depends on it stopped working, including such basic stuff as cp or mv. But you're right, booting from live and replacing all files installed through the libc6 package should be possible.

hmm - if you are a ubuntu-touch user - please update the wikipedia page - too many "?" doesnt look good! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_mobile_operating_systems

1:15 PM

@Oli ok but all the answers seem to be off topic :=D

@ByteCommander hey if you downgrade libc6 you are asking for that :D

@Rinzwind Hey, it wasn't me! >:)

@ByteCommander that is what I would say too :=D

1:33 PM

@PeretFinctor I use evolution: currently using 234 MB of memory

@hg8 On French Stack Exchange here and here it's a very angry crowd...

;-) >:)

o/

1:53 PM

@Fabby for an object I would have said "Passe partout" too

2:14 PM

@hg8 :-) Thanks!

A: How to get dialog box input directed to a variable?

2:30 PM

What an answer! Phew.

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:D I can't explain it!!! If you can understand what they are saying in Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide: Chapter 20. I/O Redirection, write a new answer and I will give you 50rep: exec 3>&1; result=$(dialog --inputbox test 0 0 2>&1 1>&3); exitcode=$?; exec 3>&-; echo $result $exitcode; Ref...

@kos Thanks for the bounty!

@chili555 Wich is your own most favourite answer?

@ByteCommander Let me know again about this question after you've collected the bounty...

@Fabby Do you mean an answer I wrote? Or one that I saw that someone else answered?

@chili555 one that you wrote!

AFK BRB

@Fabby askubuntu.com/questions/577941/…

2:44 PM

@chili555 Yes! I remember that one!

Upvotes and favourited already.

Bountying it now...

Thanks!

There!

You should get 250 extra rep in 24 hours for that one!

And now I'm going to have a smoke!!! :-)

@chili555 Great one. Your second favorite ?

@hg8 This one, because I had to dive deep in the warp core to figure it out and was surprised it worked in only one try: askubuntu.com/questions/693109/…

@chili555 Np, it was well deserved! If that doesn't solve it I'll throw in another one, however personally I didn't hear from OP since then

2:52 PM

@chili555 Neat... +1 ;)

@kos Did you check his/her latest response and my comment? Weird.

@chili555 Hm. So accessing the hotspot disconnects the ethernet? I don't understand what they mean

It's not even clear whether they have a problem at all

She was troubleshooting with the ethernet attached and her logs showed perfect connections and nothing about wireless. I asked her (I assume it's a 'her') to be sure the ethernet was detached. She confirms it so.

Morning folks ! o/

@Serg morning.

3:02 PM

@Serg o/

@chili555 Yeah, but I don't understand this: "Hope you can yet solve it. Thanks, desi.". They seem to be asking for further help

Morning @Serg

@xiaodongjie good morning ! Bounty awarded. Thank you for good work

@Serg Thank you.

@Serg now what should i do?

about +100?

@xiaodongjie I believe you should offer a bounty to reward the other python answer, but please confirm that with @A.B. first

@kos I don't understand either. According to her paste, she is connected perfectly. I can't see that she has any problems.

3:04 PM

@chili555 @kos what's that question you guys are talking about ?

@xiaodongjie Who is the girl on your profile pic ?

@Serg yes, let me try to get reply from @A.B.

@ByteCommander Nice answer here! askubuntu.com/a/704616/380067. Just a little suggestion if you don't mind, maybe "file descriptor" is more correct than "stream". It's such a good answer that I'm even sorry to point that out since it's such a picky remark, but maybe it makes it even better.

@hg8 i believe that's a girl from a tv series , i forget the name

@hg8 her name is Dongjie.

3:05 PM

@Serg askubuntu.com/questions/694972/…

@kos we strive for perfection and hitting @ByteCommander on his head with a plastic mallet for not being perfect is the correct action

董洁

@xiaodongjie ta shi cong na yi ge dianshi ju ?

sorry, i still haven't figured out how to get pinyin on blackbox

@Serg 梁山伯与祝英台。

@Serg This: askubuntu.com/a/695108/380067 @chili555 I asked them for a clarification as well, let's see what they answer

3:08 PM

@Serg ta shi zhu ying tai.

@Rinzwind XD

@xiaodongjie mei kan guo . . . But I will :)

@Serg :)

@xiaodongjie from a tv serie?

@hg8 yup, the chinese words you see above that's the name of the tv series. english name is "Butterfly Loves"

3:12 PM

@hg8 yes, you can search it at google with liangshanboyuzhuyingtai .

@xiaodongjie @Serg Ok thanks ;)

@hg8 you're welcome.

@hg8 if you really want to watch a fun tv series, look for shuang cheng sheng huo , "Tale of two cities". It's basically a story about a Beijing girl fell in love with Shainghainese guy. So they basically have relationship where they constantly move back and forth between two cities, like going from Cali to New York all the time

My goal for today is 5 - 10 questions, let's see what happens

@Serg I will take a look. My girlfriend love those kind of series

blade19899

> Adobe has announced they'll be renaming Flash To Animate CC.

Lol, yeah that I'll fix it.

3:23 PM

@kos So as streams are file descriptors - do they have a representation in /dev or something like that?

@ByteCommander Yes, ls /dev/fd/

Also there are /dev/stderr and /dev/stdout

@ByteCommander Yes, there's /dev/stdin, /dev/stdout and /dev/stderr

And /dev/fd/* as Serg said

Not sure why I have /dev/fd/3 though, I don't recall having opened it.

@ByteCommander by the way, when you do here documents or here strings in bash, there's temporary file descriptors being created there in /dev/fd

Ah, thanks.

And all those in /dev and /dev/fd are symlinks to /proc/self/fd.

yup

3:29 PM

And the STDXXX streams (0, 1, 2) in /proc/self/fd are again symlinks to /dev/pts/16

While my custom stream 3 in /proc/self/fd points to /proc/3289/fd which seems not to exist any more...

@ByteCommander an answer incoming to that question from me as well :)

@ByteCommander @Serg @xiaodongjie Hello ! :)

@cl-netbox good morning, sir !

@cl-netbox how are you?

@xiaodongjie fine and what about you ?

3:33 PM

@cl-netbox i'm fine. :)

@xiaodongjie Nice to hear this ! :)

user139252

Hi-o!

@cl-netbox thank you.

user139252

GTK is killing my Chrome theme...

@cl-netbox @HeatherBrown Hello =)

3:35 PM

@Serg @xiaodongjie Did the bounty shuffle start and proceed successfully ? :)

@hg8 Hello my friend ! :)

@cl-netbox yes, I think that it's very good and going well.

@xiaodongjie So everyone got what @A.B. had planned ? :)

@kos @Rinzwind Enough perfection now? I added that paragraph:

> Note that all "streams" are also represented by file descriptors in /dev/fd (which is a symbolic link to /proc/self/fd which contains another symbolic link for every stream pointing to /dev/pts/16 usually... a bit complicated). The standard streams also have /dev/stdin, /dev/stdout and /dev/stderr (which are symbolic links again...).

@cl-netbox yes, kos and Serg and me got over +200 reps.

@xiaodongjie WOW ! - that's a punch ! :)

3:39 PM

@cl-netbox :D

user139252

Can somebody sign in to my Minecraft server and make sure WorldGuard is working?

A: Add and remove update channels in an easy terminal way

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I analysed the source of Ubuntu Software Center that written in python. After, I wrote following code runs well. aptsources is a python module used by Ubuntu Software Center to manage /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d. #!/usr/bin/python import aptsources.sourceslist from subpro...

Q: How to enable source package download for a section of private ubuntu repository

@ByteCommander Hmmm my picky point was just about the name, I think that digging that deep leads to errors:

$ readlink -f /dev/std{in,out,err}
/dev/pts/1
/dev/pts/1
/dev/pts/1

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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We have created a internal ubuntu repository. It has a few custom sections which has packages that were custom built. Currently, no source packages are provided for download for the repository users. We would like to have source packages available for few sections in the local ubuntu repositorie...

ubuntu apt package-management

@xiaodongjie Did you open the bounty for @Sneetsher as it was planned from @A.B. ?

3:42 PM

@cl-netbox yes, i'm going to do it, but after get the agree from @A.B.

Thomas W.

i need an Ask Ubuntu mod to decline a flag at my request

because I made a derp

(as a result of the mobile app derping)

@ByteCommander I don't have a deep knowledge of that either, so I don't know what to suggest, but pts16 is not always pts16 for sure, so I'd take that bit down at least. Not sure about the rest.

Ok.

@cl-netbox do you like the python answer from Sneetsher?

@ThomasW. ??

3:45 PM

@ByteCommander Personally I'd just change "streams" for "file descriptors", without digging too much; the underlying system AFAIU handles that differently across distributions also

Thomas W.

@fossfreedom there's a flag of mine in the system asking for a merging of questions but the mobile app showed two questions instead of one q and a

which is of course the cause of a declineable flag

so... a flag I filed is invalid because the app derped

@xiaodongjie I like the hard work that everybody did on this thing ! :)

Thomas W.

@fossfreedom should be on this question

@cl-netbox yes, that's hard work. And I don't know how does @A.B. think about the answer.

> Note that all "streams" are internally represented by file descriptors in /dev/fd (which is a symbolic link to /proc/self/fd which contains another symbolic link for every stream... it's a bit complicated and not important for their behaviour, so I stop here.). The standard streams also have /dev/stdin, /dev/stdout and /dev/stderr (which are symbolic links again, etc...).

@kos better/ok now?

3:47 PM

@ByteCommander askubuntu.com/a/704643/295286

ok