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12:11 AM
@Tim - I've seen that face somewhere... and recently. Not sure where though. Anyway, hi.
 
Tim
@hbdgaf Hi, I don't know where you have seen me. I sure don't recognize yours ;-)
 
For sure. It was probably a blog or following a blog and a gravatar or something, and ubuntu related.
 
Tim
Definitely ubuntu related, maybe the forums.
 
12:33 AM
I hate it when I take the time to answer something and it gets no votes... stackoverflow.com/questions/16613435/…
 
1:06 AM
 
1:20 AM
@jrg Around?
@FEichinger All those answers on your vote question on meta are terrible! "Repz for all teh things!"
That would be worse than what we already have!
 
Shows the state of the community, though.
The few people that do come to meta seem to be in support of giving rep for everything.
And very focused on rep in general
 
jrg
@Seth yes
 
@jrg Well I'm not sure I need you anymore.. I thought this jtd user posted a bunch of dupe answers here meta.askubuntu.com/questions/8373/… but it turns out they are all slightly different.
 
Looks like we have a pretty good idea who the moderators will be.
 
I wouldn't count on it ;)
This needs downvotes: meta.askubuntu.com/a/8377/44179 (I hate saying that, but it does)
 
jrg
1:34 AM
ok
 
sorry @jrg
 
jrg
1:50 AM
awwwwggggg. 60 flags.
and no time to clean the darn thing out
 
I know lol.
Lots of flags :D
 
2:09 AM
Good evening gents, I have 13.10 ubuntu installed. I need an onscreen keyboard for my touch screen any suggestions?
 
I got two dowvotes (so far) in meta for meta.askubuntu.com/a/8502/248158 . I see that downvote in meta != downvote in main but any idea why? Should I have linked to example? Wouldn't that become personal? That's why I didn't give a link as proof.
@FEichinger But I see people in chat talking about rep and badges many times. BTW, only two candidates had sportman badge last time I saw.
 
badges != rep, for one.
 
@DKBose the new users on meta just want repz it seems.
 
Secondly, the reason you see reputation mentioned a lot is for the same reasons I described in my meta Q: You need reputation for privileges.
 
2:17 AM
They don't like the idea of not answering dupes.
 
Sorry for disturning you guts any thoughs on a onscreen keyboard for 13.10
 
But that doesn't mean that reputation is the be-all-end-all of the site. Your site activity should not be defined by reputation.
 
*disturbing
 
@GaryWheadon Just search the software center or apt-cache.
 
Your site activity should, however, when normally using the site, give a reasonable amount of reputation for the overall advancement of the site.
 
2:18 AM
sorry for disturbing you guys any help withan onscreen keyboard for 13.10
cheers @ seth
 
@Seth but what do you think about high-rep users answering v. nearly exact questions? Then how will "canonical" qna evolve as jtd quoted spolksy?
 
@DKBose There is a fine line about answering dupes. Sometimes the question needs a special tailored answered, sometimes the user doesn't know about the dupe, etc.
 
@FEichinger the fact is that people seem to be v.keen on both rep and badges. Don't focus on badges. The point you made was about people coming to meta "to be in support of giving rep for everything." I'm just saying there is interest her too (also in badges).
 
There's a difference between seeing reputation as a problem on the site (Which it is. The site needs to generate more reputation.), and asking for just about every action to give some form of compensation.
And, again, badges are completely different from that. Badges don't affect anything directly, they record certain circumstances.
 
@Seth, I concede there may be special times. But my downvoted answer was not about ignorant users but high rep user . I think we can agree that high rep user isnot ignorant ;) I found the relevant link I flagged as dupe. But I don't want to post in public just to try to prove a point. Plus that high-rep user may hunt me.
 
2:25 AM
@DKBose Sorry, but I know a lot of ignorant high rep users :-/
There aren't that many on this site, but they exist.
 
@Seth 10K+ ignorant user? (Acutally this was much much more than 10K+)
 
@DKBose Yes, 100k ignorant users.
 
@Seth and you were one of the five who voted it as dupe. 100K+ ignorant? I'm talking about using Ask Ubuntu and not real world social skills ;)
 
@DKBose Yep. 100k and don't know how an SE site works. (okay, maybe I exaggerated a little bit, 100k is hard to get, but I've seen 30k, 40k, even like 50k)
They were people who just use it has a forum.
But in general, meta people vote how they like.. No rhythm or order in it.
 
@Seth anyway I proposed in my answer that moderator should have a chat with them. They're not that many and so mod would not have to take too much time. Anyway, just a thought.
And thanks for your feedback ;|
 
2:34 AM
shrug. Nothing you can do about it.
One of the things you learn.
 
I propose two new badges: i don't know if they're technical possibly but: one for using the search box at top right of screen over so many times (should be easy to monitor?) Other for clicking on dropdown suggested answers that appear when typing question title. I'm suggesting here and not in meta because I am allergic to downvotes ;)
 
that might actually be useful.. maybe.
@jrg Does my using the 10k flag queue actually help you at all?
 
jrg
@Seth yes
means I can go through them on autopilot easily.
 
alright goes through 10k queue
@jrg Can you close this as too broad? askubuntu.com/q/1755/44179
one more vote here: askubuntu.com/questions/423257/bad-sector-on-boot-disk (@AvinashRaj maybe?)
 
if i encrypt a drive with LUKS Encryption (version 1) — how secure is that?
 
2:50 AM
@Seth already voted on the second one :-)
 
@AvinashRaj :-/
Anyone got votes to spend?
 
what is the best personal firewall for ubuntu?
 
ufw
 
im using gufw
 
Technically there's only one. iptables, which is the backend of ufw, which is a backend to gufw.
 
2:55 AM
@Seth done
 
cool
 
Y META SO CRAPPY TODAY!?
 
err +40 flags?
was in 30 last time
 
are you guys engineers?
 
2:58 AM
no, why?
 
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Q: Switching to OpenSource

user60852I'm switching from Apple to either a Linux or Unix Open Source OS. It's been a long time since I've used either OS. I last worked with SGI Irix, RedHat and Fedora. I'm not sure which Open Source OS that I'll be switching to yet, but I'm leaning towards Ubuntu. My external hard drive is formated f...

 
@Seth didn't we decide that installing Ubuntu using crouton is ot?
 
@Braiam I don't remember.
 
why someone is adding the crouton tag and nobody stop him?
 
was just wondering.. Hey if you get good enough rep do you think you can work for canonical
 
3:01 AM
@Braiam because it is a viable tag..
@GaryWheadon no. Rep has no meaning to Canonical. Answers might.
 
@Seth err... you know what crouton is?
 
jrg
@Seth taken care of
oh, yay.
 
jrg
i forgot that i loved video transcoding
 
whats ths best flac decoder for ubuntu?
 
jrg
3:04 AM
@GaryWheadon eh, best is relative
 
well the quickest flac decoder lol
 
@Braiam a dry piece of bread, yeah.
@jrg thanks
 
jrg
@GaryWheadon vlc isn't bad
 
@Seth I was about to bring my palm to my face and something fall upon me...
(really)
there are a bunch of Q's about installing Ubuntu using crouton and as far it goes the deal was that installation problems was ot, all the Q's I saw were unanswered too so I doubt anyone will miss them
> P.S. why was this marked as a duplicate because that other article didn't me at all?
Why don't you start to tell us how you installed Ubuntu, then all the actions you did, etc, etc. — Braiam 1 min ago
I installed ubuntu onto my computer with a cd — user250132 30 secs ago
WELP!
 
 
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j0h
4:34 AM
shortly after running sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator x-terminal-emulator mate-terminal /path/to/executable 50 I started having stpid problems in mate termial.
cant boot into gui now. :(
 
4:50 AM
@j0h I seem to see the issue.
update-alternatives is so badly documented >.<
 
@j0h that is something weird going on with your $TERM variable, do echo $TERM and echo $DISPLAY
 
@j0h I don't remember you ever telling me about my first command either.
 
j0h
lol @Seth. what was the first command?
I though i posted results for the first command.
 
 sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
 
j0h
unless there is a 0th command.
 
4:54 AM
@j0h lol.
 
j0h
$ sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
There is only one alternative in link group x-terminal-emulator: /usr/bin/mate-terminal
Nothing to configure.
 
well that's the one you want anyway.
How about the output Braiam wanted?
 
j0h
$TERM=mate-terminal
 
Yep. That's not right.
 
j0h
mate-terminal is what i want when i am in the gui.
 
4:56 AM
The $TERM variable isn't your terminal.
Like I said in my answer.
It should be xterm.
 
j0h
Ithink there are problems running it via a shell.
 
That's probably the problem right there. Again, refer to: nanocluster.umeche.maine.edu/p/thisToo
 
@j0h run export TERM=xterm and see if any of the errors you have seen appears
 
@AvinashRaj btw, I looked up "affect" and "effect". "Affect" is a verb and "effect" is a noun, so I did in fact use them correctly. At first I wasn't sure myself though :P
 
j0h
I just echo 'export TERM=xterm' >> ~/.bash_profile
Ill go try to get into the gui now.
 
5:00 AM
What's the dupe for this @Braiam ?askubuntu.com/questions/423444/…
 
@Seth I have no idea what he's asking about
@j0h that won't affect the gui
 
j0h
:(
 
you should look where the heck is that mate-terminal added...
 
j0h
@Braiam how can i do this?
should i try to completely uninstall?
 
@j0h grep mate /etc/environment /etc/profile{,.d/*} ~/.* 2> /dev/null
@Seth wanna go through the delete queue?
 
5:05 AM
Already used 3 of my votes.
@Braiam done.
1 vote left.
 
@Braiam dupe with a good answer. I'm leaving that one for now.
 
@j0h from /home/J0h/.profile remove the TERM=mate-terminal line
remove that line
 
@j0h my word you've done a lot of playing around.
 
5:10 AM
restart
 
-5
Q: game downloading on steam

Terho I believe that this picture explains the issue and there is quite a few who are waiting for a response.

I think the picture in the lower left corner describes this question well.
@jrg powers please --^
 
@Seth why the heck is Ubuntu fault?
 
@Braiam I don't even understand it.. some random screenshot?
ah. Now I understand.
facepalm
 
j0h
@Braiam Done
 
> it would definitely be preferable to only keep reasonably valid questions around. As I noted, duplicate closures are meant to stay, so there's no reason to keep an incredibly low quality post as a duplicate when it really doesn't add anything at all.
that answer is already... like said several times
@Seth mm?
 
5:12 AM
@Braiam I understand what he's trying to say. That's all.
 
@Seth we shouldn't keep bad quality duplicates
 
@Braiam I've got better stuff to use my delete votes on. Like bugs.
I don't see how that question is any worse than the average Windows 8 question.
 
@Seth we shouldn't have W8 questions either
 
@Braiam and I told you I've been doing that.
 
5:15 AM
I know how to use the 10k tools ;)
There. Used my last vote.
 
@Seth I found that like yesterday :/
 
@Braiam oh really? lol. I had screenshots jrg took of the 10k tools before you were around, so I kinda knew my way around before I got 10k so..
 
and yay, mate doesn't have mate terminal available for debian...
 
oh that's funny.. I had another vote o_O
@Braiam yep.
 
5:19 AM
Why are we closing this
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Q: Wi-Fi not working in 12.04 after update

Joginder SharmaWi-Fi not working in 12.04 after update. I think update removed something. How can I fix this? sudo lshw -class network gives output description: Ethernet interface product: RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. p...

 
> I think update removed something. How can I fix this?
+ dump of code
 
I don't see how that makes it closable.
 
@Seth try to answer it...
 
Easy. His wireless driver probably got uninstalled.
 
is not difficult to answer is just impossible to answer
how you know?
 
5:22 AM
Look:
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Q: Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Card Doesn't Work After Updating

user188972Today I bought my first laptop with Ubuntu installed. Everything was working until i decided to make the Update. I used the update manager, installed all the update, but then my wireless stop working. I went to the DELL site, make the account, but some tools work only with IE ( and they suggest ...

@Braiam Wait, so because you don't magically know the answer we close it?
 
Hello... my nightmare is still unresolved. Dell support is terrible also... better don't talk about that... I reinstall everything and was ok, but after the update the problem still come out... this time I wrote down exactly the Crash Report Window: Package:oem-wireless-ath9k-3.9-rc4-2-dkms — user188972 Sep 12 '13 at 18:02
is a bug...
if it's that question you are trying to pull out
@Seth no, I'm closing it because I don't have enough information to give a concise answer
I'm not able to be sure that I could write "this is the solution" even after several hours of investigation
 
but you leave no comments.
@Braiam The answer is newer than that.
and you downvoted the answer.. why?
 
@Seth is a bug, Seth. You are trying to help in the wrong way. Look, you upgrade to Trusty today, your graphics card doesn't work, what you do?
 
@Braiam Uhh, no. See the second question I linked. You just need to use the backported kernel modules.
Also askubuntu.com/posts/422940/revisions So... close it? Don't close it?
 
@Seth ok, how can you be sure OP isn't using another version?
 
5:28 AM
@Braiam I don't know, but that isn't a good excuse to close the question as off-topic or unclear. We'll find out now though.
 
@Seth if you don't know skip
 
facepalm
 
at least make sure that your actions will help somebody
 
That's what I just did. Made sure my actions would help the OP, unlike closing it as unclear or off-topic without leaving any comments, which helps no one.
 
you don't hurt not trying to be helpful, you hurt being helpful the wrong way
 
5:31 AM
You are being helpful the wrong way.
 
j0h
clash of the titans
 
Hmm. Bug here, but with workarounds. We discussed this earlier and I think we decided to VTC anyway right? askubuntu.com/questions/366623/…
@j0h We're all friends at the end :)
@j0h Got your GUI back?
 
j0h
havent gone down to that area yet.
 
ok
@j0h Your $TERM should always be set to xterm unless you're doing some really weird stuff.
Just remember :)
going to bed now. I'm surprised @jrg is still up. Or maybe it's his computer.
 
j0h
Thanks @Seth & @Braiam too
 
6:10 AM
I am flagging posts and now have 5 flags left. Will I get them back if post gets closed?
 
@DKBose the counter resets each day at 00:00 UTC
 
@Braiam, oh I see. I thought if action is taken on what I flag I will get the flag back :(
 
 
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7:45 AM
Hi
Ubuntu developers...
Hello.
Ubuntu mods.
 
@xiaodongjie Kaspersky Rescue Disk Kaspersky Rescue Disk is a free bootable iso file that is designed to scan, disinfect and restore infected operating systems.
 
what is the difference between chatting reputation and askubuntu one?
@karel yes.
@karel why you send me this message?
 
@xiaodongjie Chat room reputation is the sum of your reps on all sites n the Stack Echange network.
 
@karel xiexie ni!
 
@xiaodongjie answer to your recently posted question. It may be off topic so I answered it here.
 
7:58 AM
which question?
I don't ask any question is related with kaspersky.
 
@xiaodongjie No, that's not your question. You just EDITED it: askubuntu.com/questions/423521/….
 
morning
 
@karel yes, np.
 
@kalina good morning, k
 
@karel np?
 
8:02 AM
@xiaodongjie no problem.
 
morning
2
 
@kalina good morning?!
 
morning
 
morning to all too :)
no medals for holland today :*(
 
@kalina I've done mountains of edits, code revisions, translations, etc. and so far I've never had one of my edits negatively commented or rejected by the owner of the post. Either I'm lucky or else there are a lot of cowards out there.
 
8:07 AM
@kalina your character is very beautiful!!!!
 
@karel ...say what?
@xiaodongjie ?!
 
@kalina you are very beautiful!!!
 
riiiiiiiiiight...
 
 
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Oli
10:30 AM
There's a lot of pebcak this morning.
 
11:02 AM
on Ask Ubuntu PEBKAC is the default state.
 
11:15 AM
damn the list with flagged answers keeps growing :P
 
Oli
@Rinzwind Hm?
 
it was on 49 when I started. Now I am 40 flags down and it is on 50 :+D
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A: Skype 4.2 problem - Audio Playback - Ubuntu 12.04

user243106worked for me +1 worked for me +1 worked for me +1

tsk
you can only +1 one time >:)
 
Oli
Speaking of flags, for your link-only comment, can you not suggest that people copy and paste things over. Emphasis paraphrasing and using "own words"
 
ha its back to 49 >:)
ah ok
 
... hide your socks to +1 more times
 
11:20 AM
I shall @oli boss sir :)
 
Is dconf-editor installed by default in Ubuntu?
 
Oli
@DKBose It's not on the CD manifest so I'd assume not.
 
its something I have to keep installing each time I reset my VMs
 
OK! I'll edit two answers to say that dconf-editor should be installed first or do we install dconf-tools?
 
11:27 AM
you install the package dconf-tools - then you can use the dconf-editor app
 
I just tried sudo apt-get install -s dconf-editor and sudo apt-get install -s dconf-tools. Both seemed to work. First only installs dconf-editor. Second installs both dconf-editor and dconf-tools.
 
what's the -s flag - search?
 
Simulate
 
ubuntu version?
 
Actually sudo isn't needed for apt-get install -s
13.10 and even older ones. You don't see it?
 
Oli
11:38 AM
apt-cache policy dconf-editor dconf-tools shows that both are packages these days
That's different from 12.04.
 
Must be something new...
ah yes - I'm primarily using 12.04
just a habitual thing ... must do this when installing from afresh
 
-s is old but being able to install dconf-editor directly is newish. Don't know when exactly it started.
From man apt-get:       -s, --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act
           No action; perform a simulation of events that would occur but
           do not actually change the system. Configuration Item:
           APT::Get::Simulate.
 
12:01 PM
What was the name of a SE site that deals with java questions?
 
lots of java programming on stackoverflow
remember - we also love programming stuff - should have something vaguely ubuntu orientated - but we are a broad church
 
12:40 PM
> I've been using Vim for about 2 years now, mostly because I can't figure out how to exit it.
4
 
heh
 
@kalina You are in a better situation than mine.I'm yet to figure out why I have vim manuals when USC shows it's not installed.Also to discover why typing vi opens vim
 
Oli
It's funny 'cause it's true. My first few experiences with Vi (and we're talking ~2000 here) ended in hair-pulling, control+zs, eye-gouging and finally reboots. They should keep a log to see if the user has successfully managed to exit at least once before and if they haven't, interpret keyboard smashing as a plea for help.
 
lol
then again when I figured out vi needs can be exited with :quit! and I was thinking about htf it should exit "screen" gracefully I, out of sheer habit, typed : and to my surprise quit stopped "screen" :D
 
12:57 PM
generally I open a file with vim, try editing it(which does something else). Then unable to quit vim, I close the terminal and open the file with gedit .lol
 
19
Q: What form of government does StackExchange resemble?

AlexIt's not representative democracy, because the decisions are taken by the entire community, but they are weighted :P The closest one that comes into my mind is the "Venus project" :)

my favorite so far is user97' answer
 
1:25 PM
I only read gerrit answer, and it seems to me his answer is in the ball park
btw, anyone can help me with this:superuser.com/q/719063/152045
 
is there any ubuntu certification exams?
 
1:57 PM
bq and Meizu? I had hoped of better smartphone partners.So the first one to get Ubuntu phones are europeans and chinese. insights.ubuntu.com/news/press-releases/…
 
@adityapatil Am European :D YAAY
 
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Q: PDF - NOT WORKING - ON ANDROID !!!

user250373**Since Ubuntu creates a URL for each file, the .PDF at the end of the URL is thus removed. PDF Files uploaded to UBUNTU will not connect properly for download to phone. (Android). PDF FILES WORK LIKE A CHARM USING DROP-BOX. TOO BAD UBUNTU, LOOKS LIKE YOU GET A FAILING GRADE ON THIS ONE. H...

 
@blade19899 But Beware!!! considering the hardware Ubuntu requires to become different than others, the price will be very high.Maybe even higher than iphones.
 
@adityapatil NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO am a broke European ;'(
 
@blade19899 Only people who trade companies for 500M$ can by Ubuntu smartphones.lol!!!!!
 
2:09 PM
@adityapatil Not funny ,'(
 
2:20 PM
I just noticed that Thunderbird has a Chat feature
 
@avinashraj No.not in India at least.there's RHCSA in pune I think
sadly thunderbird does not support yahoo. :-(
 
@AvinashRaj consider that spam/abusive - here he goes again - askubuntu.com/questions/423671/pdf-not-working-on-android
 
@Mateo Flaggin, closing
 
just downvoting.down goes the question.
 
Oli
2:45 PM
@AvinashRaj Please reserve spam for actual spam (not just annoying posts)
 
worked fine on my phone, just pasted the link and it downloaded.
anyway calling people names and posting multiple times will get a spam/offensive flag from me anyday.
 
Anyone has the sublimetext2 plugin Autoprefixer CSS working on Ubuntu 13.10?
 
wow, only ~50 flags left and there hasn't been any spam wave D:
 
@briam wait until monday!
when US goes to sleep.
 
@adityapatil depends person to person, me right about now - then again later - I think a lot are waking up around now.
 
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