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Mateo
Mateo
1:17 AM
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Q: Is there anyway i cant restor my system from this point?

user3177987I have encountered serious problem while experimenting with linux ( ubuntu / mint ). Few days ago i felt like trying linux. I had windows7 installed on ssd drive. Since i had one free hdd i decided to install ubuntu there, ubuntu boot ovveride my standard windows booting, and i had to select boot...

boot grub2 partitioning
??
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
@Mateo Fixed. :P
 
Mateo
Mateo
yeah, its a exact copy from that u&l question...
strange, he it was posted as unregistered on there
hi @NathanOsman
how is nitroshare going? I haven't asked about it in a while
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
1:33 AM
I've started rewriting it in Go.
Go is much better suited to asynchronous operations.
The best part? It compiles directly to binaries that have no dependencies.
That's right. None. Zero. Not even libc.
 
Mateo
Mateo
Sounds like fun, is it easy to pick up
Woah, nice.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
I'll show you something I wrote in Go...
Really looking forward to the Nexus 6.
 
Mateo
Mateo
ah, you getting one?
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
I wasn't going to for the longest time.
But then I saw the specs. (the improved battery life, the camera, the speakers, the QHD screen, and the 4K video shooting mode) and it seemed like a good idea.
 
Mateo
Mateo
1:50 AM
@NathanOsman reads nice, so is that part going into nitroshare?
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
No, that was something I put together for work.
 
Mateo
Mateo
something coreos uses for configuration?
I'm trying to piece things together from readme's
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Well, we used CoreOS for a lot of services.
And CoreOS uses Fleet for distributing tasks.
But Fleet doesn't have a way to specify "dependencies" between services.
So I wrote that app to auto-restart services when their "parent" restarts.
 
Mateo
Mateo
@NathanOsman oh, so if you start something up it would just fail?
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Well, we had multiple machines, so services would sometimes get moved to another machine so that a machine could install an update and reboot.
As soon as it got moved, other services that depended on it would die.
So this app restarts them when they get moved.
 
Mateo
Mateo
1:58 AM
move service -> other computer didn't have other services running -> you app starts the ones needed - kind-of like that?
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Something like that.
 
Mateo
Mateo
@NathanOsman well, I think I'm waiting for an ubuntu phone
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
The Meizu phone?
 
Mateo
Mateo
If they come out with one preinstalled
right now, who knows what will happen
probably the meizu, it had good specs, and if they jump to the mx4 really good specs
 
Seth
Seth
Are they going to dual-boot Android, or was that only the Edge?
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
2:06 AM
Was the Edge going to boot Android?
 
Seth
Seth
dual boot
 
Mateo
Mateo
I bet you could set it up to, since they are phones that have android. I'm afraid they might just "provide" images and only sell the android ones
 
Seth
Seth
Ubuntu Touch + Android
@Mateo well that's no good.
 
Mateo
Mateo
that is me being paranoid right now though
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Ubuntu Touch works pretty well on the Nexus 5 for me. It's not perfect yet by any means, but it's getting closer to being fully functional.
 
Mateo
Mateo
2:10 AM
@NathanOsman I like what they did with the system tray on the new image
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
It does a better job of reconnecting to a cellular network after travelling through a tunnel now.
@Mateo Is that 249?
Or has a newer one come out?
(I'm subscribed to the mailing list, but I'm often too busy to read all the emails :P)
 
Mateo
Mateo
let me check...
anyway, when you pull down the icons expand to bigger tabs
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Oh, cool.
I don't think I've seen that.
 
Mateo
Mateo
and they fixed some of the navigation, where if you open up scopes that weren't a fav, you can long swipe from the left to get back
it says 14.10 (r109)
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Sometimes I get super confused by the version numbers.
 
Mateo
Mateo
2:16 AM
they start the numbers over...
so, on rtm they are on 5
ah, I'm on the rtm/devel-proposed
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
 
Mateo
Mateo
I guess they bumped it to 14.10
I think they said most of the work was going into rtm
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Ah.
 
Mateo
Mateo
with proposed having the new stuff
third from the bottom should give you what I was seeing
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Okay.
 
Mateo
Mateo
2:22 AM
although it looks like favourites were broke... at least on mine. I did a OTA update though, so I'll try starting with a clean image
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
I can't do a lot of clean installs - the images are just too big.
 
Mateo
Mateo
It pulled all my google contacts over, so using it as a phone will work great
@NathanOsman limit on data?
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
My Internet at home is super slow and my cell connection is faster - and unlimited - but they throttle the speed if you use a lot.
 
Mateo
Mateo
ah
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
3:02 AM
@Braiam: ping.
What is that MSE post about? I'm confused as heck ;p
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
@Mateo WAT? I had 7. "I installed grub on my second disk BIOS has determined is /dev/sda. I didn't like Ubuntu and installed Mint on /dev/sdb. I then erased all of the Ubuntu install in sda, including /boot. Now grub doesn't work,,, Halp!!!" -- loosely paraphrased
@NathanOsman that's good to know.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
@hbdgaf What is?
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
Go - no dependencies on compiled binaries.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Yeah, the binaries are a bit large but you can use packers like UPX to shrink them a bit.
I can get a simple app down to a 2 MB ELF binary.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
I would imagine if that's an ongoing problem with Go, someone will build UPX in to the toolchain eventually. It's the price you pay for no dependencies though. The code that does thingamadoo A is either in the binary or a dependency. Pick one ;)
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
3:16 AM
Yeah, and one file is always easier to manage than multiple.
It does reduce code reuse but storage isn't the same issue that it used to be years ago.
And we all know what DLL versioning is like on Windows.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
This is true. I also know how static builds of things from years ago are with "well if you can rip out this twisted dependency chain and slam it in some sort of virtualization/isolation you can still run the app. The source got swallowed by the internet or the build scripts make me question my sanity."
 
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
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Q: Opening nautilus without --no-desktop, on xmonad ontop of ubuntu, what happens?

ZirconCodeI have a standard Ubuntu install with an xmonad install ontop of it [1]. Now, when I run nautilus from the command line a view unexpected things happen. While nautilus does appear, there is now also some form of desktop environment present were only a default wallpaper used to reside. My unity w...

ubuntu window-manager desktop-environment nautilus xmonad
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
But here's the thing. Building Go apps is crazy simple.
Like almost never more than one or two commands.
Dependency URLs are specified in the source code. :)
So fetching dependencies and building the binary can be done with at least one or two steps.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
That's neat.
They don't have all the awesomesauce libraries yet that other languages do right? Or can they parse other language wrappers to use some of the existing awesome.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Actually, I was surprised by the depth of the standard library.
It would be comparable to Python. Seriously.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
3:22 AM
I don't doubt that. I was doubting that most of what you can get with pip is there too.
"Cuda/OpenCL could eventually be a layer below Go -- where goroutines
are launched on GPUs. (I'm dreaming here.)" nice https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/golang-nuts/_VoZfniBTZE
what are the chances those two things happened independently that close together both involving Mint + Ubuntu?
@mod - might want to look in to that ^^
 
Seth
Seth
Similar, but not the same. Users don't compute either. Odd that the questions are so similar though.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
@hbdgaf Yeah, true. It's not the same as PIP. But most major services and libraries have a Go library.
And Go does interface with C libraries similar to Python's ctypes.
Remember - Go is native code, not interpreted. It has the speed of C.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
I know. It's neat, but not enough to motivate me moving from things I know and like now.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
:)
Yeah, I'm not suddenly rewriting everything in Go either.
But for new things going forward, it's a good choice.
Especially daemon-like services.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
docker coughs
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
3:33 AM
I use Docker.
My website runs on Docker.
 
Mateo
Mateo
@hbdgaf well awesome, but from the way it was written it sounds like he wrote over windows as well...
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
@NathanOsman I was referring to it being written in Go. Docker is nice. I still like lxc a little more for the time being though.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
@hbdgaf Ah.
For some reason, I thought you were saying Docker was better than Go, and I was like "huh?"
My mistake. Carry on.
Docker is written in Go. Fleet, etcd, and Juju are all written in Go.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
@Mateo On the second one? I was thinking the failed installation attempt ate up all the partition space on disk and the OP was selecting to install side-by-side... which will obviously fail.
@NathanOsman I mentioned to lazypower that juju inside docker/lxc containers for a double-dose of awesome might be an interesting UDS talk from the devops fellows
 
Mateo
Mateo
I think the first, but that sure did get an interesting non-answer
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
3:37 AM
@hbdgaf I've been dreaming of something that combined Juju and Docker.
It would be super awesome.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
The reason I would like it is because you could have one box. Now you set up your logically divided workloads. Then as you get more metal, you can provision one LXC/docker working set to another node. Scale from one box to many. It could be argued that juju sort of does that already, but it would be interesting to have it already separated further.
@Mateo I nudged that half-answer + rant that it might have gotten an uptick if not for combining a piece of an answer with the rant.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
That's just it.
 
Mateo
Mateo
@Seth you might want to keep an eye on this one: askubuntu.com/questions/541645/…
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Juju does almost everything - except isolating services.
Enter Docker.
Boom! DevOps goes from tedious and mundane to awesome.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
It could get interesting to say the least.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
4:40 AM
Thanks Google. Apparently I have to publicly publish my address to continue selling apps on Google Play.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
@NathanOsman WHAT?
I see a business model there where you list your address as some mail drop virtual-office-share. They already exist, but this is a new reason to use one that should probably be a discounted reason to use the service.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
So unless I publish my home address (I don't have an office) for the entire world to see, I can't sell apps.
That's stupid.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
@NathanOsman See my comment one line above. I'm not sure if that's "We're going to publish it all over the place" or a more reasonable - "We're telling you if some agency asks for your address, we're just going to give it to them"
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
@hbdgaf The terms refer to "publicly displaying" it.
So I really don't want to find out after I provide the information.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
Think, similarly to how Apple locked itself out of its own phones. All this big brothering floating around etc etc. idk. It might be something from the legal team saying "if they want it private, they shouldn't give it to us. We will comply with record requests. So, this is in effect public.
We aren't allowed to talk about some of these requests, so here is how we tell people." Similar to how Apple changed some verbage in a ToS somewhere to indicate that something was happening without explicitly saying so.
starts handing out foil hats
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
4:50 AM
My app doesn't make that much money :P
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
Fair enough. I think some web hosting/VPS companies should do point of presence remailing too. It would be a $2 value added service. Fair don't you think?
@NathanOsman Well that's not SO bad. It only narrows it to a city.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
True.
But today a city... tomorrow a postal code...
The day after, angry users with pitchforks.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
Agreed. It should explicitly state the maximum granularity they will express without asking for additional consent.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Exactly.
City is tolerable.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
I knew a privacy advocate that recommended starting a business in Alaska and registering your vehicle to said company. Say you have a creepy stalker who can get an officer to run your license plate. They're not heading to Alaska from the continental US to check ;)
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
4:57 AM
:P
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
Do you think the Go community is going to try and do something competitive with scipy, numpy, et al?
@NathanOsman I wonder how badly it needs to be accurate. I mean nobody wants a Google map to show "the guy you're mad at is here pin". Conversely, it would be sort of funny if they don't really care about it being accurate and an angry user showed up here: google.com/maps/place/…
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
They have Street View in there? O_o
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
Admit it. If you saw on the news: Angry app user appears at the white house demanding they fix the problem.

You would laugh SO hard.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
5:14 AM
Didn't somebody try to get in there recently?
Maybe that's why they were there :P
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
No idea. It would be like reverse-swatting a disgruntled user that takes things entirely too far though.
And at that point, it becomes: The only person you have to thank for your current predicament is yourself.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
5:36 AM
I sort of want to get one of these just to troll my iOS fanboy friends youtube.com/watch?v=9Yz6vQGxgk8#t=168
 
 
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Rinzwind
Rinzwind
8:13 AM
@NathanOsman and here I was thinking of holding a surprise AU party at your house :(
3
 
karel
karel
@Rinzwind Regarding this comment I suggest replacing "official Ubuntu MATE" with "MATE Desktop Environment in the Ubuntu Software Center" because Ubuntu MATE is not an official flavor in the 14.10 release.
 
Rinzwind
Rinzwind
ok
done @karel
 
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
9:06 AM
0
Q: Can't get grub to boot windows 7 partition. "error: invalid EFI file path"

jaxI have an "HP pavilion 7008tx dv7". It came bundled with Windows 7 and has two 1TB HHD and an 32G SSD. Here is the output form "parted -l": Model: ATA TOSHIBA MQ01ABD1 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 1000GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B Partition Table: msdos Number Start End Siz...

ubuntu grub2 uefi efi
 
karel
karel
@Alvar Regarding your comment, I don't think it's a duplicate of that question.
 
 
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hbdgaf
hbdgaf
12:03 PM
@karel I plead mercy for MATE. I'm all flame on Mint btw, but if someone is trying and has it in process, I plead mercy.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
12:51 PM
So, it's still a work in progress. If anyone wants to read it though, it's there
I still have to work out data frame joining and appending, but you can definitely see where I'm going with it.
 
Mateo
Mateo
1:03 PM
@hbdgaf would be funny if you named something "pistols for pandas"
Ever watch Homestar runner?
 
Avinash Raj
Avinash Raj
1:50 PM
@karel Yep, it's not..
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
@Mateo nope but that stuff seems funny.
I don't plan on releasing most of the stuff that actually works. Just one of those things. I will help people get close to where I should have been able to start though.
how is john wick not online yet?
 
 
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Avinash Raj
Avinash Raj
3:28 PM
@hbdgaf hi..
are you there?
 
 
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Mateo
Mateo
4:53 PM
@NathanOsman don't worry I won't randomally show up at your house... But I'll understand if your app isn't on the store anymore.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
5:10 PM
@AvinashRaj wasn't then, am now
 
Avinash Raj
Avinash Raj
5:28 PM
hi.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
o/
 
Avinash Raj
Avinash Raj
is stackoverflow.com/a/26562293/3297613 possible using regex but without reading the whole file?
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
@AvinashRaj you could manually implement a circular buffer for the file read... stackoverflow.com/questions/6293868/…
The other answer is better though...
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
5:47 PM
@Mateo: it isn't. I unpublished it for now.
 
Richard
Richard
Same answer doesn't mean same question, right? I can't find a meta question about this...
 
Richard
Richard
6:08 PM
Doin the upgrade (-:
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
@Mateo So, I'm playing with a Pistolero Pandito banner graphic now. Darn you for getting that idea in my head ;)
o/ @Lucio
 
Lucio
Lucio
morning!
@Richard that's a lot O.O
@hbdgaf \o
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
I'm so glad I don't have to pay to upgrade my system every other year...
 
Lucio
Lucio
:D
@Rinzwind ..and RVP score! :P
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
6:26 PM
And we now have a pistolero pandito banner graphic.
 
Lucio
Lucio
hehe
you should add little panda faces as background
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
I need to invert the black and white so I can use it on a page with a black background.
 
Ask Ubuntu Meta
Ask Ubuntu Meta
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Q: When MBR pirates grin as an indication of absolute pleasure

Taz D.I could really use some Ubuntu/Windows separate section in here or maybe some area where pirates and attackers can be dealt with so I know there is a special place where to ask a specific question and hopefully find a solution. Someone, have no idea who, really worked my computer, and placed som...

feature-request ubuntu-windows hacks attacks
 
Lucio
Lucio
This does not give me a good impression
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
pandas the scipy layer not a restaurant
 
Lucio
Lucio
6:32 PM
hahaxD
@hbdgaf same provider for they
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
I've had big city sushi and out in the boonies sushi. No comparison unless you're buying it out of a vending machine... in which case, they don't have those in the boonies.
Of course, the sushi place I used in Chicago was also a fish market. And the places in SD were just beautiful and spectacular like much of San Diego
 
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
0
Q: How to use SteelSeries Startus with Linux (Ubuntu)?

dum coderi have one of SteelSeries Stratus and want to play Minecraft with it on Linux. Is there anyway i can connect it to Linux? http://steelseries.com/us/products/controllers/steelseries-stratus-wireless-gaming-controller

linux ubuntu bluetooth
 
Lucio
Lucio
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
that panda is awesome
 
Lucio
Lucio
lol
what a coincidence, I saw one of your pandas..
I can see who eat the sushi ¬¬
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
6:38 PM
I don't think it's a coincidence. IT people tend to have a thing for unicorns, pandas, and ponies.
Funny how words mean different things with context.
@AskUbuntuMeta I looked for an infographic of burying a computer in concrete. I just couldn't find one.
 
Lucio
Lucio
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
There's no video of the entire game. I wanted to see who got stomped after that opening.
 
Lucio
Lucio
heh, the one that scream more definitely
they always win
you can download the full match though 1.03Gb
 
Mateo
Mateo
@hbdgaf awesome, pandas ;)
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
well that's sad. i wanted to see the team with less decorum get stomped.
 
Lucio
Lucio
6:53 PM
yep, aust. 28, 29 nz
I bet that one score is due the scream ;)
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
It could very well be. I'm not saying sportsmanship, but sportsmanship - insert aliens history channel infographic here.
 
Lucio
Lucio
haha, yeah just look at their faces, that is not human
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
They're performing. As performance artists I don't fault them at all. As sportsmen I do.
 
Lucio
Lucio
well, I would never say as a chef...
but they do both very good
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
>.>
 
Mateo
Mateo
7:00 PM
Wow what was that meta about, I missed it...
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
I had someone work on my PC. It haz a rootkit I'm sure. I can't install anything, Linux, Windows, or otherwise. It's not user error promise. Even my system clock seems off.

Then bury it in concrete and move on.
 
Mateo
Mateo
Sounds like it is dying...
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
So bury it. Nobody was ever satisfied with that answer though...
 
Lucio
Lucio
My solution against Hibernate session handling: do never close the session
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
I don't use hibernate either. It's something I have just accepted doesn't work right for now.
Just once, I want to see a bug report that gets answered: "Yes we know this doesn't work. You can, however, keep testing as we tweak it or turn it off. So, in short, deal with it."
 
Lucio
Lucio
7:21 PM
> Hey guys im using ubuntu 14.04 lts and i have radeon cards,my pc is a toshiba satellite
Ok, you're awesome, now we know it.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
What toshiba satellite has multiple GPUs?
See "radeons"
 
Lucio
Lucio
see "cards"
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
You know what I meant.
 
Lucio
Lucio
:P
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
o/
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
7:26 PM
o/
 
Lucio
Lucio
/o\
the dance has started
 
Seth
Seth
@Lucio you should try them anyway.
It isn't as good as real oriental food, but it isn't as bad as say... Mcdonalds.
 
Lucio
Lucio
fair enough
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
Noodles & Co doesn't count as a real asian restaurant either, but I like their food and their business model.
 
Lucio
Lucio
7:45 PM
I didn't remember what an ugly thing was develop desktop apps
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
Have a flask and a webkit instance. moves along
 
Lucio
Lucio
flask?
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
Evening!
 
Lucio
Lucio
hi there!
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
Any idea/workaround for the following problem?
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Q: Wrong zoom in/out behavior touchpad move

Ionică BizăuScenario: Being in browser, I drag the touchpad using two fingers -> page scroll While the page is scrolling (my fingers are not on touchpad anymore), I press CTRL key. The page is zoomed in/out Same issue appears in Nautilus, for example. How can this be fixed?

touchpad multi-touch scrolling zoom
It becomes annoying... :/
 
Lucio
Lucio
7:51 PM
let me close it as bug..
jk :P
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
:-)
I really need a fix for that.
 
Lucio
Lucio
what is "The page is zoomed in/out"
I mean, do you press CTRL and..?
is the page zoomed in or out?
btw, have you filled a bug on launchpad.net?
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
I do a scroll on touchpad, a fast one, and then (after taking my fingers from touchpad) I press CTRL + R (refresh). While pressing CTRL, the page is zoomed in/out.
No, on what package should I report it as bug?
 
Lucio
Lucio
ubuntu
@IonicăBizău how can a page zoom in and out? that is what I don't get :/
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
You know that ctrl + scroll creates a zoom event, right?
 
Lucio
Lucio
7:56 PM
yep
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
So, on a big page, you make a long scroll, via touchpad. While the page is scrolled and after taking the hand from touchpad, press CTRL key.
 
Lucio
Lucio
but do you press and hold the CTRL key?
it's very tricky xD
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
Even you only press it for a short time.
Are you able to reproduce it?
 
Lucio
Lucio
I don't have touch :(
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
Do you have a mouse with scroll button? Maybe you can do it with that.
 
Lucio
Lucio
7:57 PM
yep I do
but it doesn't happen
what I think that could be happened is..
the scroll move through the touch input device is still being processed after put the fingers out
so when you press CTRL is like keeping the fingers and moving them
a big bug definitely
For instance, if I press and hold the CTRL key while scrolling the page it stop scrolling and start zooming in or out
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
I always had difficulties to use Launchpad... :-/
 
Lucio
Lucio
haha xD
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
Why does it have so bad design...?
 
Lucio
Lucio
I know what you mean
let me help you out
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
When pressing "Report a bug" I am redirected to this page.
 
Lucio
Lucio
8:02 PM
long time since last visit..
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
I am already logged in on Launchpad.
 
Lucio
Lucio
^try that
mmm
nm
against x?
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
x server?
 
Lucio
Lucio
yep
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
What''s the name of the package?
$ ubuntu-bug ????
 
Lucio
Lucio
8:07 PM
press Alt+F2 and enter ubuntu-bug
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
bugs.launchpad.net Wrong zoom in/out behavior touchpad move
Scenario: 1. Being in browser, I drag the touchpad using two fingers -> page scroll 2. While the page is scrolling (my fingers are not on touchpad anymore), I press CTRL key. 3. The page is zoomed in/out Same issue appears in Nautilus, for example. How can this be fixed? ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.10 Package: xorg 1:7.7+7ubuntu2 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.16.0-23.31-lowlatency 3.16.4 Uname: Linux 3.16.0-23-lowlatency x86_64 .tmp.unity.support.test.0: ApportVersion: 2.14.7-0ubuntu8 Architecture: amd64 CompizPlugins: No value set for `/apps/compiz-1/general/screen0/options/active_plugins' CompositorRunning: compiz CompositorUnredirectDriverBlacklist: '(nouveau|Intel).*Mesa 8.0' CompositorUnredirectFSW: true CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Sun Oct 26 22:07:43 2014 DistUpgraded: 2014-10-22 09:50:07,290 DEBUG enabling apt cron job DistroCodename: utopic DistroVariant: ubuntu DkmsStatus: virtualbox, 4.3.18, 3.16.0-23-generic, x86_64: installed virtualbox, 4.3.18,…
xorg (Ubuntu)
Undecided / New
Finally. :-)
Thanks!
 
Lucio
Lucio
wait
I came up with a better idea
late xD
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
What idea?
 
Lucio
Lucio
how is the input service called?
ibus
something like that
you can fill the bug against that package
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
How can I know how is the input serve called?
 
Lucio
Lucio
8:14 PM
right, I have no idea :S
something in between there I guess :D
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
Where do you see that?
 
Lucio
Lucio
system monitor
listening the process
by name
but it is not a big deal. If X is not the package, and admin will move it. Good job @IonicăBizău!
and stop pressing the CTRL key for a while ;)
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
Thanks!
0
Q: Global smooth scrolling

Ionică BizăuMac has native smooth scrolling (animation when you scroll something). I really like that thing. Is there a way to enable smooth scrolling, globally, in Ubuntu? When I say globally I mean, enable it everywhere (any application: browser, terminal emulators, pdf readers etc). For Chrome, I use th...

unity google-chrome touchpad mouse-scroll scrollbar
^- Another scroll question. :-)
@Lucio Thanks for upvoting. :-)
 
Lucio
Lucio
np
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
Any idea?
 
Lucio
Lucio
8:20 PM
hell now :D
your questions are too complicated for me :P
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
Come on, you're 5k. :-)
 
Lucio
Lucio
nah, most of that does not come from answers
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
@IonicăBizău I looked momentarily for a compiz smooth-scroll feature. If it were anywhere global, my guess is that is where it would be.
@Lucio flask. it's like django without any weight or features. you snap-in everything you need yourself.
 
Lucio
Lucio
nice
I thought you misspelled flash but you never misspell
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
I misspell. I don't often misspeak though.
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
8:26 PM
@hbdgaf OK, but I'm a developer. I guess that a C/C++ app should be able to implement something like that.
I work mostly with jquery and I imagine something like that in native windows, not only in web apps.
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
@IonicăBizău Yes. If I wanted to implement that as an app developer, I would find a way to cache 200% of the screen around the viewed content area. The problem would be that it would be different for every gui toolkit. You would want to pre-draw the interface in a pixbuf somewhere, so you could draw more than you see instantly. That would let you do smooth scrolling.
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
What if I trigger scroll event in a smart (smooth) mode, preventing default behavior?
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
No idea on whether that exists or not. Under the hood, it would do something like I just said. Draw the whole interface to trade smooth scrolling for launch time and memory consumption. I'm guessing default behaviour is going for lightweight and no memory consumption, so scrolling could suffer.
 
Lucio
Lucio
dupe:
1
Q: Terminal states ipython not installed despite being installed

Vineet KaushikI installed ipython using python-pip. Here is the traceback : user@MY-PC:~$ sudo pip install ipython [sudo] password for user: Downloading/unpacking ipython Downloading ipython-2.3.0-py27-none-any.whl (2.8MB): 2.8MB downloaded Installing collected packages: ipython Successfully installed ipy...

dpkg pip ipython
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
Think about it: Which is faster? Moving a viewport over a drawn canvas or finding out what is on the canvas and drawing it?

It's all balancing acts.
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
8:33 PM
Yeps...
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
@Lucio agreed
 
Lucio
Lucio
I saw that. thanks
too much java for today
'till later guys
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
@IonicăBizău I'ld have to laugh if it turned out that this fellow I know's massive MacOSX at idle memory consumption was all related to pre-caching smooth scrolling. 3GB consumption at idle.
@Lucio later
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
@Lucio See you! :-)
@hbdgaf I would really like smooth scrolling effect, even it would be memory consuming. For beginning, just for fun...
Do you know how to detect global scroll on Ubuntu/Linux?
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
We're way beyond my experience level there. I was just telling you how I would implement it if I had a gun to my head.
 
Ionică Bizău
Ionică Bizău
8:42 PM
Yeah... :-)
 
 
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Ask Ubuntu Meta
Ask Ubuntu Meta
9:45 PM
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Q: How to solve the long trail of apt dependencies questions?

BraiamAs someone may notice my previous meta question asking to stopping to use the How do I resolve unmet dependencies after adding a PPA? question as duplicated target. I wrote some basic guidance about it, but people wants pointed solutions, anyone has any idea?

discussion canonical-questions
 
Mateo
Mateo
9:56 PM
@AskUbuntuMeta meh, all it takes is a tiny bit of troubleshooting sense. most of those I ran into "say" the dupe didn't solve it, for me to only read their output, and tell them to manually install the package it asks for...
 
hbdgaf
hbdgaf
@Mateo - you know Braiam loves the apt-tag. I put something in there to say "fine. here. it's what you want. we shouldn't necessarily close-hammer them all, but i think not having a how to troubleshoot them answer is rep farming"
 
Mateo
Mateo
yeah... It has all the "this is how you can solve it"
 
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