@AvinashRaj let's help teach the codez :P

The office I was at today sure had slow and unreliable Internet.

It isn't fun trying to push Docker images that total >100MB over a connection that's both slow and unreliable.

Oh, and I actually caused a 500 error in chat. Nice.

So. Much. To. Catch. Up. With.

Bluetooth is messed up in Trusty. My keyboard won't pair. It was working fine in Precise.

:|

I'm going to try my Pi.

It doesn't work on the Pi either.

But it works on my Nexus 5.

switch to Dvorak

@NathanOsman how does that pair up? Does it go through psmod?

What's psmod?

I've tried using blueman and hcitool in a terminal.

I've got some strange entries in the syslog though.

I hope I am using the right terminology, but it deals with input devices like mice/touchpads/keyboards

Oct 16 20:11:04 nathan-desktop bluetoothd[849]: Discovery session 0x7f3ac3bb5760 with :1.96 activated
Oct 16 20:11:10 nathan-desktop bluetoothd[849]: Unknown command complete for opcode 37
Oct 16 20:11:15 nathan-desktop bluetoothd[849]: Stopping discovery
Oct 16 20:11:16 nathan-desktop bluetoothd[849]: Unknown Management opcode 23 (index 0)
Oct 16 20:11:45 nathan-desktop bluetoothd[849]: hci0: Cancel Pair Device (0x001a) failed: Invalid Parameters (0x0d)

I wonder what opcode 23 is...

I am not sure about bluetooth really, tbh. I think it would not be with psmod at all though since it appears to not be syncing up

Hmmm...

Oct 16 21:40:56 nathan-desktop bluetoothd[849]: hci0: Set Powered (0x0005) failed: <unknown status> (0x12)
Oct 16 21:41:21 nathan-desktop bluetoothd[849]: Adapter /org/bluez/849/hci0 has been enabled

have you seen this bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1244764 ?

Hmm...

that appeared to be first error

I tried that... didn't make a difference :(

ok Ill look more

I'll start writing up a question...

ok, Ill look through manjaro forum, and check arch after

@NathanOsman maybe silly question did you sudo it?

sudo !!

Which command?

Oh, the hciconfig one?

Yes, I did.

ok, what is in your tail of logs?

or is that the blootoothd up above?

like you grepped tail -f .... syslogs

Oct 16 21:47:29 nathan-desktop mtp-probe: checking bus 5, device 9: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.0/usb5/5-2"
Oct 16 21:47:29 nathan-desktop mtp-probe: bus: 5, device: 9 was not an MTP device
Oct 16 21:48:47 nathan-desktop bluetoothd[849]: Unknown Management opcode 23 (index 0)
Oct 16 21:49:17 nathan-desktop bluetoothd[849]: hci0: Cancel Pair Device (0x001a) failed: Invalid Parameters (0x0d)

No idea which actions those correspond with.

ok.. kinda like modprobe?

I am guessing here.. hoping for a connection in my synapses here (or synapsi?)

so the device is completely bluetooth or does it use a usb in some way? and do you know where the card is physically connected?

It's an ASUS BT400 USB Bluetooth adapter.

Sorry, I guess I should have mentioned that sooner.

ok lets have you check this out : forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=164449

seems to be same issue, there is a bug track with a workaround it appears in last answer as well

well at least I am reading error messages a lot more, it seemed like you had a USB one

this answer too might help: askubuntu.com/questions/406841/asus-bt400-bluetooth-adapter

@NathanOsman

I just saw that one :P

It doesn't seem like there would be problems with distros being different (or so it seems)

Thanks for trying :)

it didn't work?

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title: http://best.pestcontrolindelhi.com/ @ pest control on askubuntu.com

No, afraid not.

SOUND TEH ALARMZ!11!!

@Seth: your bot works :P

same time

as last night

Really?

I missed the action then :P

well the smoke detector didn't go off, but same message, it made it into review

I believe?

well.. last time I was on, days all merge together for me now

it was same time of night though

@NathanOsman what does lsmod show?

maybe grep it with asus, or bt, or usb

root@nathan-desktop:~# lsmod | grep bt
btusb                  32412  0
bluetooth             391136  30 bnep,btusb,rfcomm

when you unplug your asus bt device does btusb go away?

I'll try it in a minute.

ok, I just wanted to see if I could pin point it for sure

@NathanOsman I think that answer was missing a critical part of information.. mainly that the numbers (being echoed into a new_id) is supposed to match the device location of your specific device

look at this one too : urbanjack.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/bluetooth-low-energy-ble-on-raspberry-pi-with‌​-asus-bt-400/

ill pump your question up 1 though

Thanks :)

I'll try unplugging it and reseating it again.

what is the lsusb output?

nathan@nathan-desktop:~$ lsusb | grep ASUS
Bus 005 Device 010: ID 0b05:17cb ASUSTek Computer, Inc.

well dang.. same location

:P

did you see his nano edits at bottom of that post too?

he also did a cli reset of the bluetooth

assuming to force config changes

after all this... it may actually help me figure out a way to make a wireless usb work on edubuntu 12.04

I've got output from syslog when plugging it back in... one sec...

dpaste.de/ZLHE

Didn't work :(

you can talk to your nexus no problem with BT it appears

it's still giving same problem with the USB one.. it's like saying.. this is not a proper device to be used as an input device

you are talking to your nexus with BT right?

Yes.

(With the keyboard.)

I'm assuming it's all you have atm

i wouldn't know for sure, but in the "fixes" it seems like people only have 1 bt device attached.. but I am not sure (that shouldn't matter)

I am really trying to understand here.. I don't want to leave you hanging either. I just am not sure if I am helping

Well, you certainly helped.

I'm gonna try rebooting here. One sec.

ok

it looks like they just put in a script and aren't really adding to the kernel

for the bug fix

nathan@nathan-desktop:~$ bt-device -c 7C:1E:52:08:DF:5D
Connecting to: 7C:1E:52:08:DF:5D
Agent registered
Error: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.

eh this device is even kinda crappy in windows it appears

IT WORKED.

which part?

Here's the magic command:

sudo hciconfig hci0 sspmode 0

I have no clue what it does, but it worked.

I have man open now and am looking

simple pairing

Here's the source: raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=37482

I'm glad it's working :)

Thanks for your help.

I don't feel like I did much :) but no problem

I gotta get to bed though. Have fun.. and you might want to put that in a startup script (probably delayed)

good night

There have been some dependencies errors when installing codelite. On the latest trusty I managed to install codelite without issues, following my own answer(here). Can someone verify that it works for them to?

I noticed that when I first login I have to click on the current keyboard language. It shows as Danish Keyboard but it will run as an English one until I click it once.

> WASHINGTON — The director of the F.B.I., James B. Comey, said on Thursday that the “post-Snowden pendulum” that has driven Apple and Google to offer fully encrypted cellphones had “gone too far.” He hinted that as a result, the administration might seek regulations and laws forcing companies to create a way for the government to unlock the photos, emails and contacts stored on the phones.

- James Comey, F.B.I. Director, Hints at Action as Cellphone Data Is Locked - NYTimes.com

linuxg.net/… <- Interesting post - If everything goes as Canonical hopes, Ubuntu 15.10 and Ubuntu 16.04 will be the first Ubuntu desktop systems using Unity 8 and Mir.

What should we do with this?

I answered but then realized it is clearly a dupe. It is also an amazingly awful question. The OP claims it's not a dupe but I'm not convinced.

oop nevermind

@terdon It's dschinn...

Seems like a viable question, just written badly.

@Seth 'nuff said.

> This question will be rewarded with bounty! (because of thunderstorm I had amnesia and wanted to put this question earlier - this then would have prevented the stupid "hoaxes" about so-called "shell-shock-vulnerabilities" and else news ... ).

OOooookay.

Um.

I just found this app called Mutate, it looks amazing.

@jokerdino Hi!

hiya

Are you back?

yep, I'm back :)

@Seth it looks like synapse but better

yep. It's still a little rough around the edges, but it works.

@Braiam around?

well ping me when you are around. I have a question I think you might be able to answer.

blarg, mutate grabs Ctrl+T for it's translate feature. That didn't last long.

Someone remind me why Ubuntu switched to avconv again? >.>

@Seth debian switched, and it propagated

@hbdgaf oh right. Well it's causing me pain.

Actually, you might be someone I could get good advice from on the subject.

the debian switch was related to a personality/goals conflict among the devs as far as i understand it. i am no authority on that, however.

@Seth i'm listening

I'm maintaining a PPA for silentcast: github.com/colinkeenan/silentcast. Silentcast depends on ffmpeg >=0.8. I've been using Jon Severinsson's PPA to supply ffmpeg to users launchpad.net/~jon-severinsson/+archive/ubuntu/ffmpeg but someone told me that it might cause problems with other applications trying to use ffmpeg and/or even avconv and that I should switch to avconv.

That isn't really possible right now without me really messing with the source and either maintaining a separate fork (which might not be too hard right now, but the main developer is adding more features which use ffmpeg) or get him to merge it in and maintain my changes (not exactly likely)

The only other option I can see would be creating a preinst script which would check if ffmpeg >=0.8 exists on the system and if not installing avconv and creating a symlink from /usr/bin/ffmpeg to /usr/bin/avconv, but it's also apparent that could even cause problems with other apps.

The whole thing is a mess D:

find someone that wants it bad enough to make it avconv... also talk to the main dev. see if he knows that he's using something that debian and all derivatives deprecated.

He knows, but he runs Arch :/

So far he has been very willing to include changes for Ubuntu (I even wrote the Unity indicator for him), but I'm not sure a change of this volume would be accepted since it would probably make the entire project harder to maintain.

well, then he expects users to all be:

which is okay. it's a hard spot for you to be in. sorry.

In the long term I definitely hope to make the changes anyway, if possible.

@hbdgaf yeah, I'm afraid there just isn't a sane answer...

@hbdgaf lol, that tag line is great

@hbdgaf lol

o/ hi, by the way :)

hi Mateo :)

@Seth there's not an answer you want to hear. that's for sure. have you thought about deploying it as an lxc or docker container to just say "screw it. i'm not going to fight this"

@Mateo yeah... there is that

well, submitted my resume to Canonical for a few of their job posts. Should be interesting.

@Mateo hopefully all goes well. chuck/lazypower works there now.

@hbdgaf nice, he is on my steam list

mine too. and on my followed on g+ list

what is his job title?

no idea, but he blogs about juju, so...

so probably in with the cloud group

@hbdgaf no, but maybe that is because I don't understand either of those terribly well. Could you explain how that would help my problem? I'm guessing the dependencies are in the container and since it runs within docker it can't mess with the host OS much?

@Mateo okay, he didn't SAY he works for canonical, but i noticed a markedly different flavor to his online presence that makes me think so.

yeah, I think he works for Canonical too.

> Allo, I'm Chuck. I work on the coolest data center orchestration tool on the face of the planet. Juju has transcended a hobby and become a passion of mine.

Boo

@Seth that sounds like the place

Yep: linkedin.com/pub/charles-butler/28/748/74

@Seth pretty much. people use it to freeze dependencies etc. it's a nice way to say "give me a linux VM that looks like this that can access all my hardware if i feel like it."

hm, worth some thought. I'm somewhat afraid that would make it hard for end users to install and use though.

@Seth i hadn't connected with him on linkedin. i knew him a little from here some time ago when he was still with university bound.

oh, I have a hard time recognizing people on there... when all you see are dogs and penguins here ;)

I'll think about it though.

@Mateo lp always had a this is ma face link somewhere in his profile

@hbdgaf @Mateo I just pulled that off his blog, which I pulled of his public AU profile ;)

beat you to it

I found Nathan on linked in

@hbdgaf ;)

Hold on... let me win this one for sure. I'm going to fire up Maltego against the AU userlist ;) jkjk

lol lol

@hbdgaf haha

@Mateo Nathan is omnipresent

@Mateo - why is it that I read that statement not as an affirmation that you did so much as a question as to why I did not?

@Rinzwind yeah, just tout supervisord and memcached in the same sentence. you'll here how it didn't work for 2buntu :)

one of those stars was me btw

@hbdgaf hm, not in reply to anything you said or did

@Mateo oh i know. i'm telling on myself. sometimes things i think are more expressions of me exteriorising criticisms of myself in to other people. don't take it personally.

now when i say stuff like that, you know what i really mean. it's like, "I said that, but I found a way to make you say it. That's easier to deal with. So, let's do that."

@hbdgaf :D

there are 4 people here and it got 3 stars... so I know who starred it >:D

You don't KNOW it's not one of the sleepers lurker people.

@muru fifa 13 works with wine ;-)

@hbdgaf with reffering to the omnipresent Nathan lurkers can not keep lurking :=)

^^ ;P

well, yeah. It was a debate in my head as well, since I think so highly of Ubuntu and such

:D

ok time to close my eyes. when I open them again Ill be here :=)

@Mateo If you want the reason I never have, it's similar to the reason I don't apply for lots of things. I don't do failing really well, so it's mostly: I don't want to apply for a job I don't feel like I could lock. If it would be a struggle to get or stay ahead of it, then I'ld rather do the getting ahead of it on my time. When I walk in to a job, I feel like I should be able to just do the thing twice as well as the next candidate. I also feel like, if I have to reach for how

I might have relevant experience, someone else should be doing it. Not me.

Think: I've said to people with whom I work about some of the personnel that are in support positions that I depend on: Why do they keep doing this to me? If I was this bad at my job, I wouldn't have one. I'll set the pace, just try to keep up.

Someone had a userscript to detect who starred what.

were any of them sleepers? or were you nodding at @Rinz ?

Oh I don't have the script.

I love non-answers in an odd sort of way.

@Rinzwind never did for me.

@muru I just accidentally declined one of your flags.. Just letting you know ;)

not a problem. I don't usually mind declined flags.

That meta question was to check if I was using flags wrong..

Did you use the Luis Alvarado winetrick bomb that solves half of all wine problems?

no that's fine, I like it when people look back through their flags to make sure they're doing it right :)

Which bomb in particular? O.o

I'm not saying he's awesome, but.... He's awesome.

(FWIW I think I declined your other one too, guess I should go write a meta A on that (I was out of town when you asked the question))

@muru there is a question with an answer somewhere

Look at the dependency list on this game: appdb.winehq.org/… it's most of the universal - gets crap to work on an x86 wine instance magic

or that.

@Seth That's a good guide in general, but enabling some DLLs all the time can cause problems with some games.

It's better to enable only those necessary.

That's why I hate Steam on Wine.

@hbdgaf wrong bomb?

just say quartz.dll when Luis is in the room.

:D

scroll up one and follow the link. then follow his particular 14.04 version dep link. install all that noise.

also, wine64 is nowhere near ready for production gaming yet. use x86 prefixes for everything.

Night at the Museum III... O.O

@hbdgaf True that.

@RPiAwesomeness I never saw the first, but from what I've seen it's hilarious!

@RPiAwesomeness but we only got one season of firefly.... grumbles

@Seth Dude, watch them. They're hilarious

First the best thus far, dunno how this one's gonna be

However, they end up going to England..sooo, I think that'll win the movie by itself

is this a derp emoji yet? <.^

@hbdgaf Speaking of emoji: emojs.github.io

Program JS ... with Emoji

@RPiAwesomeness First one's always the best.

@RPiAwesomeness so is that one of the last moves robin willams was in

I'ld seen that. I'm not QUITE that twisted yet. I still have to cross the brainfuck barrier before I get there too...

@Mateo guessing so

I wonder why the HTML5 version of YT can only do 360p + 720p...?

@Mateo on RW, I'm sorry. Just sorry. Would have been cool to have him crash on my couch instead. Just saying.

@RPiAwesomeness akami hasn't caught up yet and marketing dollars. just my two guesses.

@hbdgaf Prolly

Back on the wine thing, there really should be a way to fork wine prefixes with an overlay-fs. that way you could have a wineprefix that has all the "usually install all this crap" prefix with tweaks for individual stuff.

CaptainSparklez Minecraft Minifigures... O.O

<-- takes a break

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword detected: cant install rtl8723ae wireless driver for lenovo yoga 11s on askubuntu.com

@SmokeDetector is that for the mint answer?

11s is a big spam keyword.

No idea why.

hm, interesting

ah, shoes

chat.stackexchange.com/…

wow, and a lot of random stuff

yeah

@NathanOsman It's not mine, but it does look like it will prove useful :D

but, the gamma and infrared, and aqua are all shoe types

oh, black & red - bred

strange, and they expect people in unrelated places to even understand...

are they? Well that explains that.

Yo.

Firefox got an update - now there's like 15 sites on the new tab page.

@NathanOsman or only 6 if you have a netbook :/

True... I do have a widescreen monitor, so I can probably fit more than a normal 4:3 monitor.

@NathanOsman found you on linkedin