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1:26 AM
anyone have experience with tv?
would like to try mythbuntu and live tv recording and streaming
should I go with a tv pci card or like tv to usb adaptor?
 
2:09 AM
PowerTOP keeps killing my computer :-(
@JoshuaRobison I think either one will work @JoshuaRobison
But I much rather use XBMC...
 
@TheX, yes me too
xbmc is really nice
i found that it has a plugin called mythbox or somethign like that
i just need to figure out the hardware side of things
i have a tv and a computer... but not sure how to connect the two
in a way that will give xbmc ability to control my tv channels
 
@JoshuaRobison I will tell you what I do...
I don't know if this will be a good solution for you...
But I installed XBMCbuntu on to my box
hooked it up to my tv via HDMI
and use my iPad as a controller.
 
@TheX, so you can watch livetv?
through xbmc?
 
@JoshuaRobison I don't know... I don't have a tv tuner...
 
right
that's what im trying to figure out
 
2:18 AM
I usually just watch twit tv, and listen to pandora.
 
i want to watch live tv and record
i see
i guess that is fine if I just want to use hulu and netflix
 
I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do something like that.
 
i was really hoping to get livetv working though
 
Yeah I have both those on my Wii...
So I don't even use the computer for that either
 
i want to make a media center so i can watch live tv and record it and do hulu and netflix if I choose and then play games or surf the web... this is my new project
 
2:20 AM
and then for some reason I pay for regular cable, even though we never watch it...
 
all in one box >:D
 
The problem with Netflix is no silverlight support...
 
@TheX, my box will dual boot android
then I will have netflix
>:D
and android games
on a tv screen
 
Of course an easier, but more expensive option would be a Roku box.
 
hehehe
@TheX, yeah but ... its locked down
 
2:23 AM
Yup it is.
 
i was looking into that ... how I would get linux on that but ... nothing
 
which means you can't break it lol
@JoshuaRobison I think it runs a heavily customized version of Linux
 
3:00 AM
Bounty offered: Securely automount encrypted drive at user login http://askubuntu.com/questions/103835/securely-automount-encrypted-drive-at-user-login?atw=1 #encryption
 
4:39 AM
Hello All!
 
@AmithKK: I finished part two of my article.
 
@GeorgeEdison Reading
Cool article bro
 
Now you have everything you need to write UserScripts.
 
What is the command to list all processes?
@GeorgeEdison Do we have a userscript for inserting <kbd>kbd</kbd>?
 
@AmithKK I don't believe so.
 
4:56 AM
0
A: How to configure programs to automatically reopen after a GUI reboot?

Amith KKCtrl+Alt+Backspace, AFAIK does not kill X processes. It only restarts the X server, Probability is gedit and firefox are still running. To confirm this: After pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, Press Ctrl+Alt+F1,which will take you to the CUI console In this console run the pgrep firefox or pgrep ged...

Am I right
 
Uhm... well...
Most programs crash as soon as X terminates since all of their pointers are invalidated.
 
5:45 AM
An increase to 3 Gig of RAM slows down Ubuntu 10.04 LTS http://askubuntu.com/questions/114675/an-increase-to-3-gig-of-ram-slows-down-ubuntu-10-04-lts?atw=1
 
6:01 AM
Night all.
 
6:12 AM
@GeorgeEdison Night
 
6:47 AM
Guys, I have a noobish question. I have cheese installed but I have a few ideas (extensions to existing codes mostly). My version, however, is a version older than the latest stable one. Do I have to remove existing cheese before compiling from source? or should I let them co-exist? what would be a better strategy?
 
 
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7:55 AM
@Nunoxic You should almost always have the same version you're compiling against installed. Then if you make install something, you'll clobber anticipated to exist files. So updates still work
 
LOL
Hello \o
@Nunoxic Keep the old version
 
@AmithKK - that was a spike in rep
 
More LOL
@aking1012 Gaah 6066!
Make it go
I dont think that is bad in Hindu religion
But still Vote me!
 
XD - So I'm slapping together a little pygtk app to convert Intel ASM to ATT ASM
Also, it's interesting that the playing with fire comment got 5 stars
 
@AmithKK Hi, wazzup?
 
8:06 AM
@ThinkDifferent Hey :D
 
8:42 AM
Hello!
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Q: How to change the color of the scroll bar?

culebrónThe scrollbars in Unity are of very low contrast, and I can't notice where the scroll bar bug is just with peripheral vision. I have to look at the scrollbar. With a very 22" monitor, 1920*1080, the bar is quite small, and it's hard to notice where the bug is. Look at Mac OS X interface and noti...

Please vote up my answer to I delete my answer.
 
8:57 AM
Can you answer this? Automatically switch to workspace with active application http://askubuntu.com/questions/22178/automatically-switch-to-workspace-with-active-application?atw=1 #firefox
 
 
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10:01 AM
@rlemon 20 fps
BBL
 
10:20 AM
will we need to do mass-editing on the quicklist question?
139
Q: What Custom Launchers and Unity Quicklists are available?

Nik This question is present as a matter of historical interest. While you are encouraged to help maintain its answers, please understand that "big list" questions are not generally allowed on AskUbuntu and will be closed per the FAQ. Creating a custom launcher for Unity is simple. Quicklists p...

IIRC, X-Ayatana-Desktop-Shortcuts is already deprecated
 
10:49 AM
@htorque that thing should be closed already
 
11:04 AM
because we had the hud/launcher discussion → this is, how it will look like in 12.04:
so no more hiding of the launcher
 
11:24 AM
thanks for the updates @htorque
so, what we experience is a bug.
 
no, we experience an incomplete feature :P
it has been fixed an will land in precise with the next unity update
 
waiting patiently
 
why am i reading comments on OMG?
what a waste of time :D
 
Why are you?
what version of activity-log-manager is in 12.04?
 
0.9.3-0ubuntu1
 
11:35 AM
I see, thanks.
 
yw
 
[ubuntu/precise] activity-log-manager 0.9.4-0ubuntu1
     (Accepted) (Didier Roche)
 
Can you answer this? Install Japanese in Kubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/113319/install-japanese-in-kubuntu?atw=1 #kubuntu
 
@jokerdino yep, now also available for updates ;)
wasn't before
 
I was just looking through the precise-changes mailing list.
I don't see the launcher in Unity-2d. Arrrgh
 
1:04 PM
What does it mean when I try to execute a utility that is in the bin directory MessageLogger 1: Permission Denied so i sudo it and it says command not found
 
@rlemon the bin is not in /usr/sbin
you need to call the full path from it or create a sym link in /usr/sbin
 
just looked and also noticed the util is not executable
-rw-rw-r--
 
^^ that can be it
 
r+rwx??
i hate permissions :P
 
me too, but they are so imba at the same time!
 
1:11 PM
g+rwx
how would I setup the symlink
 
ln -s [TARGET DIRECTORY OR FILE] ./[SHORTCUT]
youll need sudo for that ofc
 
so if the utils I want access to are in /dm/bin then i symlink ln -s /dm/bin /usr/sbin
 
Oli
You can't replace a whole directory like that (/usr/sbin exists), you'd need individual links
 
I guess so (sudo ln -s /dm/bin/foo_binary /usr/sbin/foo_binary)
you can also call the util with full path instead of creating the sym link with sudo /dm/bin/foo_binary
 
2:09 PM
Hello!
 
2:27 PM
Wow I couldn't login to the chat for some reason. It appears after 10 minutes looking for the problem that I had to logout then login again. Maybe the system does not support 7+ days of logged in status or something.
Can anybody please explain since I don't understand it clearly, the change proposed for Wubi. Will it be removed or will something from it be changed?
 
@LuisAlvarado had that before when I login with another account in gmail, log back in to my account and refresh the chat page
 
@Bruno - Sup sup buddy. Yeah crazy stuff.
 
Oli
@LuisAlvarado I think (after reading things for a very short time) they're talking about removing it from the CD so they can update it faster than the release schedule allows. Seems to make sense to me if they made a little downloadable installer that when run, just downloaded the image and installed it.
And yeah, Chat's login system can be really bizarre at times. Logging in and out several times usually fixes it :)
 
@Oli - I aaa ok got it got it. Got confused there.
Oli you do know your name is one step from Oil.. You wouldn't happen to work in the Oli.. I mean Oil business?
 
Oli
@LuisAlvarado Ha, yeah more than a couple of people have accidentally misspelt it. No, I build websites and to my knowledge have never worked directly (or indirectly AFAIK) for a company in the oil industry.
 
2:36 PM
You mean the Oli Industry (Bad Joke ;) ) (Drums in the back)
@BrunoPereira - Was I talking to you a couple of days ago about doing a live chat for an event in my country?
 
shoot, I never saw that meta post!
 
Well it turns out the people in charge of the event didn't mention the point again or at least not find it good. So basically I left it there. Don't want to pull one of you guys to an event and then tell you that the live chat will not go.
 
still have my green I94 form attached to the passport and need to go back to the US soon... Crapazoid :/
 
How is life for a programmer in the USA?
 
no idea
 
2:45 PM
And in your country?
Talking about the pay and treatment here ^^
 
2:58 PM
How to revert kde to its defaults settings http://askubuntu.com/questions/114807/how-to-revert-kde-to-its-defaults-settings?atw=1 #kde
 
3:17 PM
the unity tree sees lots of action today, eg.:
> reverting the revert
:D
 
Oli
Oh no. A recursive reversion loop!
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Showing my appreciation to Ask Ubuntu (and numerous others) for being a reason behind me becoming an Ubuntu member.
Warning: Uber long blog post that is pretty geeky. Only bother to open the link if you know what #Ubuntu really means. http://unbrokenspectrum.wordpress.com/2012/03/21/i-am-now-an-ubuntu-member/
I will be back later. Good day for now.
 
3:41 PM
0
Q: Which Linux distribution is suitable for serverside development and somewhat easy to use?

JenkoI need to setup a Linux-based server which is going to be the backend for our web services. This is what I need: (In order of importance) A GUI to manage applications and files It would be running a custom built C++ server Probably also the LAMP stack, if needed. I would be trying out ERP or ...

 
@jokerdino congrats!
 
Hi there, quick question: I am remotely connected (via ssh) as an administrator, and there is a standard user already logged in to that machine. I want to force a log-out on that user - how do I do that?
 
@ysap you can kill their ssh pid
 
@MarcoCeppi - thanks, but can you elaborate? (assume the other is not connected via ssh, but rather locally).
 
@ysap Ah, good question
 
3:48 PM
probably restart gdm/kdm/lightdm? though that's a not so nice way... :D
 
you could kill all their running processes
 
16
Q: How can you log out via the terminal?

TheXIs there a command, that will take you back to the login screen?

just have to find a way to do it for that user
i guess
 
@htorque couldn't you su - <user> then execute the command?
 
I found the skill command. Reading its man page, I assume this should work (is it safe?):
skill -KILL username
 
@ysap it's a pretty big hammer
gnome-session-save --force-logout looks promising
 
3:51 PM
@MarcoCeppi when it comes to stuff like that, i have no idea.
 
sudo su - <user> -c "gnome-session-save --force-logout"
 
I guess I can always reboot the system, or something like that... but I want to try sth leaner first :-)
 
i'm no sysadmin :P
 
that'll execute the force-logout command as their user
but might not work if it can't find an xsever
 
Hello all
 
Oli
3:53 PM
Good god, SublimeLinter and the PEP8 Python Styling Guidelines are riding my ass today.
 
$ sudo su - user1 -c "gnome-session-save --force-logout"
-su: gnome-session-save: command not found
???
 
@ysap Your on 11.10?
 
yes.
 
gnome-session-quit should do it
 
sudo su - USER -c "dbus-send --session --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.gnome.SessionManager /org/gnome/SessionManager org.gnome.SessionManager.Logout uint32:1"
that worked here
 
3:56 PM
@htorque - the USER in your line is a command, or should I replace it with the actual username?
 
Oli
And does anybody limit themselves to 79-char-long lines? I'd go mad trying to implement that. I think I have variables longer than 79 characters.
 
@htorque and you said you're no sysadmin
 
@ysap replace it with the user to log out
 
Oli
FTFY
 
Can someone do me a favour?
 
3:57 PM
@Oli yeah, dudes that do that should go back to 1999 HAHA
 
@ysap sudo su - user1 -c "gnome-session-quit --no-prompt" also does the job
 
but the dbus method looks much better, should anyone watch you!
 
OK, I tried the 3 suggestions (sudo su - ...) but none seem to work. I am no longer sure that the user1 is connected locally and not through ssh (although I cant see where it connected from). So, in that case, @MarcoCeppi mentioned "you can kill their ssh pid" - how?
 
If they're not ssh'd in then that won't work
 
Let's assume user1 is ssh'd...
 
4:05 PM
@ysap type w to find the users connected
If its not from :0 its ssh
 
@AmithKK - user1 and the admin user are connected. Multiple times, strangely... probably due to playig with vnc.
two user1 are from 0:0.
 
Its local
 
well, this takes too much time (i thought an admin can easily terminate a user session, but it seem to be more complicated). I am rebooting the machine.
 
@ysap looks like skill or pkill is the way to be sure, its a death sentence but at leas you know they are gone. use pkill as pkill -KILL -u foo_user
 
4:31 PM
@BrunoPereira - I actually tried "skill -KILL user1" but it did not work. Maybe my syntax is wrong. Anyway, the machine was restarted alread.
Thanks for the help, everyone.
 
BBT
 
4:53 PM
@htorque Thanks
 
@jokerdino Thanks for mentioning me :D
 
You should be in your bed. :)
 
Yes I should
@jokerdino Your Syndication has not kicked off
 
My what? :S
 
Your Ubuntu Planet syndication
Wants to become a member
 
5:03 PM
I am not in Ubuntu planet.
 
Hopes he can contribute to ubuntu better in summer vacation
@jokerdino Why?
 
@AmithKK Hope you do
I have ssh problems.
 
Oli
I feel like there's a parody song in that statement, somewhere. "I've got ssh problems but key-based authentication ain't one."
I'll talk to Jay Z and see what we can arrange.
 
What?
Clearly, I don't get the joke nor the reference.
 
@jokerdino What is your hostname on your main PC?
Making something for ya :)
 
Oli
5:12 PM
@jokerdino youtube.com/watch?v=WwoM5fLITfk but it's not safe for listening at work/school/etc.
 
jokerdino@jokerdino-laptop I think.
@Oli I am in my room. :)
 
Was making a vpn
Anyways
 
I can't quite tell if it would work. :P
 
@jokerdino real-vpn.com
 
anyone here use Geany?
 
5:15 PM
This works
@rlemon ?
I started on it
BBT
 
You have tried to access a web page which is in violation of your internet usage policy.

URL: www.real-vpn.com/
Category: Proxy Avoidance
 
Why in the effbomb is geany adding ​ to my .js files when I save them
 
We have a nice Internet filter.
 
So
I'm gonna sleep soon
Ill fix that
for good
 
good night. :)
 
jrg
5:31 PM
Hello.
 
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^example\.com
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ sub.example.com$1 [R=301,QSA]
That doesn't seem to be doing what I want it to.
I need it to redirect example.com/* to sub.example.com/*.
 
Can you answer this? Libroffice Colour Palette http://askubuntu.com/questions/114788/libroffice-colour-palette?atw=1 #libreoffice
 
Ah, it seems like the problem had something to do with other .htaccess files further down messing things up.
That guy had to create a fake OpenID, push through a bunch of captchas, just to post two pieces of spam!
Spammers are evil!
Oh no wait... I'm not sure if I enabled OpenID registration on this site.
 
5:52 PM
@GeorgeEdison that made me smile.
 
Maybe I should enable OpenID registration...
 
Hello! I am love Ubuntu FAQ site and chat.
 
6:19 PM
do canonical employees work from home?
 
some, yeah. look at the job offered on the site, a lot are home based.
 
must be tough. i'd constantly do other things, like - not work. :D
 
ITS THE INTERNET, WHAT A HELL ARE YOU THINKING? IT CONTAINS EVERYTHING, EVER!
Im not sure I could :/
 
What's up everyone?
 
if i were to work from my home, i would probably be lying on my bed and do stuff.
 
6:28 PM
waiting for 12.04 to come, so we can upgrade to the next alpha
 
(like what I am currently doing)
 
@BrunoPereira - there seems to be a lot of that going around ;)
 
jrg
Wait, canonical is hiring?!
 
Who told you that?
 
jrg
6:40 PM
20 mins ago, by Bruno Pereira
some, yeah. look at the job offered on the site, a lot are home based.
 
The screenshot showes unity 2d!
Why?
 
jrg
The "look at the job offered on the site"
 
Canonical always has some vacancies.
Do you want to be the engineer to work on xorg-server? :))
 
I feel ignored.
:(
blocks everyone in the room
 
@jrg There are some interesting postings.
 
jrg
6:43 PM
I don't want to work on xorg. NEVER.
 
Sigh.
 
@William probably lighter os is why it's 2d. I wouldn't want to try and get a netbook running 3D full effects ... well ...
 
Probably, even though if your'e trying to convinve people, use 3d.
 
jrg
@RolandTaylor around?
 
@William could be construed as false advertising then though...just a thought
 
jrg
6:45 PM
I've got a problem, my wifi card stopped working after I foolishly did a suspend.
 
Funny, I get my wifi to work by doing a suspend.
 
jrg
oh, i'll go try that. :p
 
still no codename
sabdfl not finding weird animals with q
 
Yeah...finicky cards. I had an ath5k once that got stuck hard-blocked sometimes on suspend
 
jrg
mine is currently soft-blocked.
 
6:47 PM
rfkill unblock doesn't do it for you?
 
jrg
nope
 
i once had my iwl3945 in a deep power save state - only booting it with windows resurrected it
weirdest things happen!
 
'it happens.
 
jrg
Thats not what I wanted to hear htorque, I can't boot windows. :p
 
ditto
 
6:48 PM
brb, rebooting.
old Windows habits die hard.
 
the way i got mine to toggle back was playing with switch during post OR removing the laptop battery while powered off to get it reset
 
jrg
thanks aking, i'll try the last one right now
^^^ how I feel right now
whats even worse is when the guy said "nvm, fixed it thx"
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BUT DOESNT SAY HOW THE HECK HE FIXED IT!! :p
 
@jrg no kidding :-/
 
if i could block start that i would
 
well if nothing fixes it -- probably card is dead?
 
jrg
6:52 PM
i have a sneaking suspicion i got sold a lemon laptop... first the hard drive and now this.
 
I didn't read all responses but if u have hard switch for wifi just try flipping it and then wireless on/off from gnome/unity bar
lol yea is it HP/compaq? I have friends with quite a few issues with them
 
jrg
ok, time to download the windows ISO and install it with my license. :\
since bandwidth is cheap here, and taking it somewhere else is not.
 
@wisemonkey - /me loves my HP except for the firewire port not being bios disablable
 
jrg
I loved my HP. Until this happened. :p
 
><
 
jrg
6:55 PM
What really irks me is my sisters (exact same laptop) is working fine
 
heehee right on \m/
 
Snatch it then
 
I am less than pleased that win8 consumer preview is not a downloadable iso...you could use it to unblock your card
 
depending on how much she knows about computers u can actually exchange with her :P
 
because stack traces are so ancient - dtrace.org/blogs/brendan/2012/03/17/…
 
jrg
6:56 PM
you're right, i do have my win8 consumer preview
 
@aking1012 what do you mean it isn't a downloadable ISO?
 
@TheX the link I got was for a binary that verified you were running at least vista before downloading
 
@jokerdino meh, systemtap userspace probing doesn't work in ubuntu - nobody cares to investigate :(
 
jrg
@TheX @aking1012 its an ISO.
 
jrg
6:59 PM
you just have to dig for the ISO
 
nice..thx. i had a different link
 
@htorque i see. :P
 
jrg
Ok, its not working from the LiveCD. further ideas?
(I've tried everything from rfkill unblock to reloading the kernel modules)
Since its not working on the LiveCD, that points to a hardware problem, right?
 
for me it would
ath9k minipci cards are pretty cheap, but i don't know if the hp hard toggle would work well with a card swap
 
7:03 PM
synaptic doesn't have a global menu? Blasphemy
 
everything sudo doesn't
 
libreoffice? :D
 
afaik that's a limitation caused by dbus and there's no intention to fix it
that's another story :P
 
btw, what's wrong with sudo and global menu?
ah, i see.
 
i think the consensus was something like: don't require users to run graphical stuff as root
like software-center doesn't need to be started as root
gotta go, cya
 
7:08 PM
bye
 
policykit to the rescue...
 
jrg
Yeah.
haven't had time to do it yet
 
oh i see
 
IE users don't play games. They're too busy trying to load pages and dismiss error messages.
 
jrg
Yay i fixed it!
now to go document what i did on superuser, since its hardware not software.
 
7:54 PM
congrats
 
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