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12:09 AM
@iSeth Yes, its called Christmas ;)
 
12:31 AM
:)
votes are back!
 
jrg
12:53 AM
@iSeth if we can get another 50 questions nailed tonight, we can bump up to 76%. lets do it.
 
@jrg working on it right now ;)
got 15 flags for ya
 
jrg
my flags noticed.
 
How was everyone's Christmas?
 
jrg
you know, we've never gotten to the point where we have had to paginate the flag queue.
and now we're back at a number greater than 0. thanks everyone. :P
 
@jrg you're welcome ;)
 
jrg
idk, i've been happy with dlink gigabit hubs.
 
@GeorgeEdison I did a lot of research on routers not that long ago, Belkin always came up first.
 
Really?
 
jrg
@iSeth i mistrust belkin.
 
They even commented on all the one star reviews and asked the reviewer to contact them.
(on Amazon)
 
1:00 AM
@jrg I'm nervous because of the reviews on this page.
 
jrg
@GeorgeEdison so it looks like if you do DDWRT, you're a-ok.
 
Yeah.
 
jrg
Honestly? I'd prefer to do a pfsense box.
 
@jrg whats wrong with Belkin?
 
According to dd-wrt.com, it is supported.
So that's a good sign.
 
jrg
1:02 AM
@iSeth i mistrust those who don't design network gear for a living. Belkin wasn't always in the network gear industry.
 
@jrg well, we have a Samsung camera. Its awesome.
 
jrg
Samsung has always been in the consumer electronics industry iirc.
 
Belkin had the best features and reviews
@jrg so has Belkin. (I'm out of "too localized" flags BTW)
 
jrg
For my network gear, I want network gear. that means something that at least provides benchmarks against the comparable cisco/linksys.
@iSeth feel free to flag custom types.
 
@jrg OK
 
jrg
1:05 AM
your flags are there for a reason - USE THEM. :P
 
Belkin focuses on Consumers. So you can't easily compare it to Cisco
oh, wait, never mind. I was looking at one I'd already flagged
 
Hey @jrg and @iSeth
 
jrg
i suspect that if we shipped gear that was usable and built to last, then we'd not have any problems in the future. :P
 
@Mochan Hey!
 
jrg
@Mochan sup?
@GeorgeEdison it was good. (christmas). I now have enough USB sticks to set me up for life. Or at least for another year or so of ad-hoc backups.
 
1:08 AM
@Mochan Its a party! Your invite here :P
@jrg I survive on one 8 GB and my Skydrive.
 
jrg
"your son is technical, so lets give him USB sticks that we got at RadioShack!" is the new "your son is technical, so lets give him iTunes giftcards!"
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haha
 
jrg
(past three years running - no USB sticks, all iTunes cards that I used, but never enjoyed. Now? All USB sticks, no iTunes cards. BALANCE PEOPLE! :P)
and yes, i am well aware that this is a first world problem.
also the first year i didn't get socks, or any books. i'm sad. :(
 
@jrg No socks?? that's crazy.
 
jrg
@iSeth yeah. i was gambling on getting socks again, so i didn't look through and figure out what my status was on that front. so now i'm in a state of "wat" when it comes to my sock supply. :P
 
1:12 AM
aw, no books. I got an andorid programing book.
 
jrg
@mateo_salta lucky!
 
Wow, full color!!
 
jrg
oohhh, ahhhh... shiny!
 
out of mod attention flags.
 
1:15 AM
@jrg it's heinous if you add the BT repo...like superbroken. the best recommendation at this point is compile everything from source and select hardware carefully.
 
jrg
@iSeth good sir, you've done a wonderful job. now whats the data query you were using for that?
@AbrahamVanHelpsing ok, so i should dupe it to the debian-repo-on-ubuntu question?
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Q: Adding Debian Sid as Package Repository?

user1131467I am running 12.04 Precise beta (upgraded from 11.10 Oneiric) and I added the following line to my /etc/apt/source.list: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free In order to get a newer version of a package (octave 3.6) that I needed but was not available in the prec...

 
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Q: Review Old Questions?

iSethHow do we deal with really old questions that don't have an accepted answer or no answer at all? I know that the 'Community User' bumps them once in a while, but is that enough? Our answered ratio is just awful, fourth worst in the network, and I think if we had a review queue or something simi...

that one has more. ( I think you know that, not sure)
 
@jrg either way, i added my token answer
 
jrg
@AbrahamVanHelpsing: go figure. you get your answer in about 4 seconds before I closed it. :P
slowly claps out-ninjad again.
 
1:22 AM
materializes in the room with the TARDIS
 
I love that @AbrahamVanHelpsing!
 
hello, people!
 
jrg
hello @LordofTime! Been a long time.
 
@jrg where can I see are answer rate? I can't find it now
 
1:23 AM
i know, right?
busy busy, all the time.
 
@Mochan where have you been??
 
@iSeth Oh... something has just popped up... I have to um... umm
 
@jrg you know, wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey... stuff... gets in the way :p
 
jrg
@LordofTime heh. :P
 
1:24 AM
Marco missed a link there @jrg
 
@jrg Hey - nothing wrong with iTunes.
 
jrg
@iSeth ok. was just wondering for future reference.
 
I think I'll buy the router.
 
jrg
@GeorgeEdison hey, there is when you're a ubuntu user and imploded your windows partition in a late-night gparted accident. :P
 
@iSeth Fun party, iSeth.
@iSeth Me? Showering.
 
1:26 AM
@Mochan ;) We need 27 more questions closed to reach tonight's goal.
 
dump closevotes my way :P
 
It's noon
@iSeth Yaaay ._.
 
i'm almost at my close votes point to get a badge :P
 
What was the initial goal, @iSeth?
 
33 mins ago, by jrg
@iSeth if we can get another 50 questions nailed tonight, we can bump up to 76%. lets do it.
@Mochan ^--
 
@iSeth I see. Well, I guess I'll help out since 27 is my favourite number. How do I get started?
@AbrahamVanHelpsing HATS! UNNECESSARY BOLD! AWESOMENESS!
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@iSeth should I use Oli's tool?
 
Visit that meta post I linked to, pick a query and start flagging all questions older than June as "too localized"
@Mochan you can. I can't get logged in though
 
@iSeth LOL OK. All of em? No exceptions?
 
@Oli Said he was going to fix it soon... I should try again
 
Oli FTW
 
1:30 AM
ALL unanswered questions older than June
 
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Q: Ubuntu Studio 12.0.4 & Mozilla Firefox Input Text Glitch

Ubuntu NoviceI am experiencing a serious issue with the "Dark Theme" functionality in Ubuntu Studio 12.0.4 (Low Latency) & Mozilla Firefox 17.0.1. The Google Search Engine Field input text is rendering "Light Grey". It is in fact so faint that it is nearly undetectable to the naked eye without highlighti...

 
you're so annoying sometimes @AskUbuntuMeta :/
 
@iSeth Holy fridge magnet. I better get started.
@AskUbuntuMeta Please leave us in peace, sir.
@iSeth, can I also list them as dupes?
 
anyone want to taser Ask Ubuntu Meta please? :P
 
@Mochan Flag them as whatever applies, just don't flag anything twice. i.e. "too localized" and "dupe"
@LordofTime don't own one :(
 
@jrg here's a tazer, have fun with Ask Ubuntu Meta :P
 
@iSeth KK. I can only do 20, I think. So someone else with more flags will need to help out too, FYI.
 
jrg
@LordofTime huh?
 
everyone can only close vote 20
 
@Mochan you can flag 39 for mod attention
 
1:34 AM
@AskUbuntuMeta @jrg then what is this?
 
jrg
@LordofTime it's been fairly quiet. :P
 
@iSeth and that number varies depending on your flag power last i checked.
 
@LordofTime how many can you do?
 
jrg
@LordofTime i said it's been fairly quiet. i didn't say it was silent.
 
1:35 AM
@iSeth So I would do custom listing and write "Too Localized"? Haha
 
jrg
@Mochan no, there is actually a button iirc.
 
@LordofTime interesting.
 
Oh wait no. I can only do 20 because I have low rep.
@jrg Doesn't matter anyway because I found there is no work-around T__T
Oh crap...
I flagged this, this and this. All of them are after June... I am open to abuse ;___:
 
@Mochan two are already closed ;)
 
@iSeth Probably because of my stupid flag.
@FEichinger, how many Mod Flags do you have?
 
1:40 AM
Heya folks
 
@FEichinger hey!
 
@FEichinger despite my epicosity i am not a thing of folk lore yet (folk being the singular of folks...it's a joke)
 
jrg
@Mochan meh. They seemed localized enough.
 
iSeth, has FEichinger attended our party yet?
@jrg hugs thank yoooouuuu
 
@Mochan no, I don't think so
 
1:42 AM
@iSeth Perhaps we should send him in invite.
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing I'm not gonna honour that with an answer. That joke was bad and you should feel bad.
 
Yeah, I know.
 
@Mochan @iSeth Go on, talk about me in 3rd person while I am most definitely here. :P
 
jrg
Hey, can someone write a CW answer for this that is better than a copy/paste from the comments, and then link it here? askubuntu.com/questions/224423/…
 
yeah, got my police hat on now!
 
1:45 AM
@FEichinger If you wanna help, start reading here
 
@jrg the answer is to replace thunar with a shell script that runs thunar with /tmp as an argument if there is no arg
stop fighting the problem and just solve it type of thing
 
jrg
Right. Someone want to run with that and drop the CW? I'd upboat it in a heartbeat. :-)
 
@FEichinger I shall.
 
OK @iSeth, @jrg, I'm fresh out of flags. The rest is up to @FEichinger
 
1:50 AM
Well thanks for putting the pressure on me. :P
 
Thanks @Mochan!!
 
jrg
@Mochan yay. You guys are awesome.
 
@FEichinger Absolutely no problem!
 
OK, dinner time now! see you all later
 
@iSeth, @jrg, anytime you have any more things like this to do - make sure you let me in on it next time, OK? I'm more than happy to review, edit or flag anything you need me to. (I would say answer, but I'm pretty hopeless in that area.) My current goal is to review 250 things :)
@iSeth Itadakemasu!
 
jrg
1:52 AM
@Mochan how about every day? ;-)
 
@jrg If I can, I will :)
I try to use the reviewing tool each day (I think I have for the last week or so)
 
jrg
Joking, kind of. Flagging isn't a "do it once and call it quits" thing. Helping out regularly with say, 5 flags a day is a huge help.
 
@jrg Awesome, well, I'll try my best and keep shaving off those evil little oldies from our lovely AU.SE!
My 'helpful flags' listing has just received a massive boost O____O
 
jrg
YAY! 76%!
 
@jrg Yaaay!
 
2:01 AM
askubuntu.com/questions/175596 <- On a slightly unrelated note, cause I just found it on my way through ... Qualify as off-topic, or try editing it into a proper ?
 
I refuse to go away @Mochan.
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@FEichinger I'd leave it alone unless you feel that action must be taken. Since it was posted in August, it's not extremely old.
@AskUbuntuMeta Go away.
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@AskUbuntuMeta 1, @Mochan 0.
 
nice, is that george or jrg...
 
jrg
Me.
 
2:05 AM
@Mochan We're cleaning up. If we're cleaning up, I dun care bout da nitpicky! :P
 
@AskUbuntuMeta Oh my god... it talked!
 
remember when george edited the regular question feed?
 
jrg
@FEichinger its already got a decent answer. I'd leave it.
 
faints from shock
@AskUbuntuMeta I'm sorry.
Hopes for it to talk again...
 
@jrg Now you broke @Mochan
 
2:06 AM
@FEichinger ;___;
 
@jrg Alrighty.
 
@jrg You did it? How? Magic world of a mod will be forever unknown to me
 
@Mochan Mods are meanies. They can edit your posts.
 
@FEichinger :O
hides
 
jrg
We can edit things, delete things, and generally wreak havoc if need be. Thankfully,there is almost never need. :-P
 
2:09 AM
Can anyone tell me if my avatar changes? Ty.
 
jrg
I can count on one hand the number of times I've used that particular tool.
 
@jrg magic.... *O*
 
It changed for me @Mochan
 
@mateo_salta Thanks, i wish it would for me DX
 
very nice picture, hit the reload button
 
2:11 AM
Damn, it did, but my hat still looks ridiculous. How big does the face have to be?!
 
lol
the hat works for no one ;p
 
@mateo_salta Didn't work. I can see it on my profile, though
@JourneymanGeek //cries
 
@FEichinger: so can a lot of users.
 
shift + reload, or clear your current browsing data
 
2:13 AM
The santa hat isn't totally ridiculous
 
Ctrl + F5, it usually is.
 
the tiny picture changed for me in chat after doing that
 
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU‌​UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU‌​UUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
OH My God, I cannot See!
 
@JourneymanGeek I know T__T
 
The little medium picture on my 'FUUUUU' post changed at least.
 
aww.
lol
 
@JourneymanGeek Oh my God!! Cute!! Those tiny badges are so adorable! jokes
 
lol check the profile itself
that ALMOST works
 
I will find a picture that looks normal with a police hat
 
jrg
2:17 AM
askubuntu.com/questions/231451/… < that comment is almost enough to make me angry and switch to pure Debian, grrr.
 
@jrg That entire question makes my left eyebrow hit the ceiling.
 
@jrg LOL. Delete it then. Hahahaha
 
It also bounces back and hits the ceiling again, the further I read.
 
I have another 3 flags for some reason. Cool.
 
jrg
Well, he's right though. Its just not something I'm comfortable discussing or even thinking too hard about. :-P
 
2:20 AM
or VTC, NC
ubuntu has always been a canonical product
same way suse was suse/novell/whoever owns them now, and red hat/RHEL was red hat
 
jrg
The question is a good one. I'm addressing that comment.
 
Gah, well I have to go. I'll be back later. Don't die while I'm gone, OK?
Bye~!
 
jrg
Anyway, night everyone. Merry Christmas. :-)
 
night, and happy festivus for the restuvus
 
night
 
3:08 AM
Night @jrg
 
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0
Q: Best Archiving Method for server backup

K.K PatelI am going to back up my server data in archives. I came across many methods like creating .tar, .tar.gz, tar.bz, tar.bz2. I want to compress my data as best as possible while retaining the best quality with a low filesize. I should also get the same quality after decompression. Which is best me...

 
@Mochan (said as he dies) you should run for mod on Manga.SE ;)
@Mochan oh, and I'll be sure to ping you for the next party :D
 
3:34 AM
@jrg what you think abt my question ? should reopen ?
Hi everyone wht do u think abt above question ?
 
@K.KPatel I think its a good question, but it can't be directly answered. Each type of compression has it ups and downs.
 
@iseth Thanks you friend
 
 
2 hours later…
5:40 AM
quiet_room = 0
 
:-)
 
6:10 AM
quiet_room != 0
 
 
1 hour later…
7:23 AM
0
Q: Digisol Modem detected But no name In lsusb

K.K PatelMy digisol modem is detected but there is no name in lsb list root@AMPM:/# lsusb Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1...

 
8:21 AM
0
Q: write pc uptime in a file in shutdown

chalistI need to log PC uptime. How I can do this? I use uptime for this and I will when ubuntu is shutdown write this command output in a file.

 
8:54 AM
0
Q: finding camputer uptime from first day until now

chalistI need to find PC uptime from first day until now. Is logged this uptime hours in somewhere? Any file log this times? Can I do that?

 
 
2 hours later…
10:31 AM
I want to get my Evdo modem installed in Ubuntu
CAN SOMEONE HELP?
It works well inWindows7
My Ubuntu doesnt have internet
My PC is double booted with Ubuntu and win7
 
@chndn First and foremost, you don't install a modem.
Is this answer to this question um.... I don't even know what to say. ._.
 
@Mochan You sure?
 
@chndn Please ignore the reply I gave. I was mistaken XD
@jokerdino Oh yeah. Being with the same plan for ten years cripples me. Shoot.
In better news, finally the hat looks great!
@iSeth hahaha thanks. I was going to but I was scared T_T I will once the beta is over(if it is over)
 
10:48 AM
reappears from the depths Hi all & a Merry Christmas
 
@Takkat You're two days late for me.
Merry Christmas, though. And depths of what? Takkatland?
 
<-- was busy as busy can be for two days now
Our paper-waste bin is bursting
 
@Takkat Hahaha
 
Why is there more packaging than content for kid's presents?
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@mochan no prob
 
10:53 AM
@chndn Thanks! :)
 
If anyone knows how to connect evdo modem help me please chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6855/bsnl-evdo-how-to-connect
 
11:11 AM
Do we have a canonical GRUB rescue prompt on Wubi question, that questions like this one can be duped to?
 
switching to mint in-place - may the apt be with me! :D
 
@EliahKagan Probably somewhere. I'll take a look once I finish writing this answer.
 
@Mochan Thx.
 
mint servers @ 50kb/sec... ^Oo^
 
boahhh thats fast ;P
wafer thin mint
 
11:24 AM
there'll probably be a new release before this update finishes...
 
lol
 
going from raring to mint/quantal - if that doesn't sound like fun! :D
 
wasnt mint == humbug?
 
mint is hamburg, but giving it a try anyways
 
mint/quantal may be more stable than ubuntu/raring.
 
11:29 AM
and it comes without amazon-support >:D
 
<-- always was confused by the concept of a distribution based on a distribution based on another distribution
 
yeah, back to unix :P
 
Since when does Amazon need the help of Ubuntu support?
 
they're going down! :D
without the help of ubuntu they would have been gone by now.
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if only I earned 1% of what they lose.
 
11:34 AM
@EliahKagan No problem. Sorry for the wait, I'll get to it now.
 
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1169 downgraded, 0 to remove and 123 not upgraded.
:D
 
too many ppas
 
zero ppas - just a release downgrade :D
 
release downgrade sounds like hours of fun fixing broken stuff.
 
how do you downgrade O_o
 
11:36 AM
@EliahKagan Do you mind if I suggest this question?
 
works fine days after the new repos opened - haven't tried it that far in during a release cycle.
@jokerdino
 
aight
 
24
Q: How to roll back Ubuntu to a previous version?

iUngiI just installed a new version of Ubuntu and I want to roll it back to the previous version. How can I do that? Is that even possible?

 
DAMMMNN why I have no flags???!!! waaah
 
@Takkat stupid holidays, gotta do something about all this spare time :D
 
11:39 AM
What time zone does Ask Ubuntu go by?
 
spare time?
 
Like answering the question: "How many downgrade/upgrade cycles does Ubuntu survive?"
 
@htorque Want to come to a party we're hosting here on Ask Ubuntu? I'll send you a personal invite~! (Well actually, I'll just re-post @iSeth's invite, so... maybe not to personally.) :D
@Takkat +1
 
bbbbut i prefer non-virtual beer. :P
 
@htorque There's no beer. @AmithKK would be too young to attend if we did that. It will be loads of fun... celebrating, counting down, waving flags... what do you say? ^__^
 
11:48 AM
nope
 
@jokerdino Shhh. Have you attended yet?
 
nope
 
Well you should.
11 hours ago, by iSeth
@Mochan Its a party! Your invite here :P
Replace @Mochan with your name, @jokerdino and @htorque
 
counting down towards what exactly? :D
 
@htorque 77.
...
Just come to the damn party! //crying
 
11:54 AM
i can't. i'm not on the list.
turns around and leaves the scene to the right
 
Mochan adds htorque to The List.
Now what?
 
Well, I have better things to do you see.
 
@jokerdino No you don't. This is your only thing to do at the current moment. Do it.
You're all lazy. I'm talking to you, @jokerdino
 
wtvr
 
fgwiukgfuiawkghkj my ass. Do it right now or I'll get our Mum to slap you.
 
11:58 AM
i suppose writing an apport hook won't be too hard
 
shouldn't be
 
@jokerdino Not at all
 
But we haven't collected any log to attach o.O
 
(@jokerdino and my Mother is @JourneymanGeek, by the way.)
 
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