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12:13 AM

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Q: Can't format hard drive back to Windows 7 after fully installing Ubuntu

I've searched the posts and can't find the exact answer I need. I've installed Ubuntu to my hard drive completely, and wiped my Windows 7. I do not want Ubuntu anymore; I want Windows 7 back. But when I put in my CD to reinstall Windows 7, it said my disk partition needed to be in ntfs format. I ...

The Evil One

1:49 AM

@jrg really? its just the basics :/ It'd probably be better put on my site - since I joomlafied it :P

i dont even think i still have a link to it all :/

jrg

@TheEvilOne Yes really.

@GeorgeEdison You around? i've got a cool IRC bot that I think you'd be interested in playing around with.

The Evil One

IRCBOT?

@jrg i like working wtih IRC bots

just to compare them to mine :P

jrg

Join #2buntu on freenode.

The Evil One

as for the packaging session, got a link to it?

fooey i'll have to load up Xchat first

jrg

oh, yeah. both. - chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/663/conversation/… - chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/663/conversation/…

i'm about to bounce him, but he'll be right back

The Evil One

1:55 AM

@jrg unfortunately, i'm going to call you out on FreeNode stuff :P such as a failure to file a registration form for channels in the # namespace :P

jrg

@TheEvilOne Oops, guess I have to do that.

The Evil One

:P

or

i have another solution ;P

?

Awesome, site's down

I bribe you?

1:56 AM

no

i'll tell you what to fill out on the form

@MarcoCeppi ohai

jrg

ok.

that works better.

ajmitch

awesome, asp.net error on viewing a user profile from here

The Evil One

heh

Marco Ceppi

@ajmitch All the sites except StackOverflow are down

The Evil One

eh?

jrg

1:58 AM

Stackoverflow isn't working either…

As Marco said, sites down.

The Evil One

askubuntu runs for me :/

Marco Ceppi

It's back

ajmitch

@MarcoCeppi right, I thought you might have been talking about your own site - AU is still working for me

jrg

Back now.

Marco Ceppi

@ajmitch You probably were seeing cache, the whole site was down briefly

The Evil One

1:59 AM

i could probably write a tutorial on configuring nginx & php5-fpm :P

not to mention convert the packaging session into some kind of blog post or something

jrg

*if

@theevilone knock yourself out playing with the bot. I've gotta go. PM me of you find bugs in him.

The Evil One

@jrg syntax and help files?

necessary for commands :P

otherwise i have nfc whats up with it

jrg

jrgiffordhubot help

That'll give you pretty much everything it can do right now.

ajmitch

ah, you got the hubot source :)

jrg

With a tweak or two. :P

George Edison

2:04 AM

@jrg IRC bot?

The Evil One

@GeorgeEdison #2buntu @ freenode

George Edison

I'm there.

How do I make it do something?

Marco Ceppi

6 mins ago, by jrg

jrgiffordhubot help

:)

George Edison

Got it.

@jrg: I think it's broken :(

The Evil One

because you broke it

George Edison

2:13 AM

Yup :)

The Evil One

who has 2buntu admin powers

George Edison

╚╦╝ <---- uprights

The Evil One

slaps @GeorgeEdison...?

George Edison

???

The Evil One

its showing up as weird squares

/me is currently loaded into windows to backup IIS data

George Edison

2:20 AM

I'm using Windows.

There's nothing funny about the characters... is there?

ajmitch

no, but those are weird uprights

ARB reviewing makes me want to investigate the bottom of a bottle of strong drink

Questions Feed

2:38 AM

Bounty offered: How can I limit battery charging to 80% capacity? http://askubuntu.com/questions/34452/how-can-i-limit-battery-charging-to-80-capacity #laptop

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 27, 2011 at 2:18 AM

George Edison

3:55 AM

Anyone know what the "ooops" is in the version string of this: packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/libjs-jquery-ui

ajmitch

@GeorgeEdison I think it's just to make it larger than the 1.8.dfsg version that was previously used

the other option is to add an epoch, which is rather ugly & permanent

George Edison

What a weird workaround... :P

At least I know they're a creative bunch.

Questions Feed

5:22 AM

Can you answer this? Why 11.10 says plymouth errors and "Checking battery state..."? http://askubuntu.com/questions/66146/why-11-10-says-plymouth-errors-and-checking-battery-state #plymouth

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 27, 2011 at 5:18 AM

George Edison

5:52 AM

Off topic:

0

Q: What is meant by Easter Egg?

I saw something named "Easter Egg" while searching. What is it exactly? How to get them?

unity easter-egg

@StefanoPalazzo: Please be around... :)

Oxwivi

6:36 AM

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A: How to install 100 server's less effert?

If you're looking for some degree of automation on bare metal installation, there's Orchestra. For cloud, specifically the Amazon EC2, you can use juju for completely automated deployment.

Is that better off as a comment?

Questions Feed

8:26 AM

Bounty offered: is there a terminal logout that does something like what SCREEN does http://askubuntu.com/questions/71041/is-there-a-terminal-logout-that-does-something-like-what-screen-does #terminal

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 27, 2011 at 8:18 AM

htorque

8:42 AM

g'day

Oxwivi

Merry day, @htorque

brunopereira81

9:11 AM

good morning

Oxwivi

10:00 AM

Morning.

Oxwivi

10:21 AM

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Q: What is Orchestra, and how do I use it?

Writing this answer, I realized I do not know anything about Orchestra. There's no link to any website or documentation on their Launchpad page. Can anyone familiar with it explain how it works and how to use it? I read Orchestra is going to be integrated into juju for easily setting up bare met...

orchestra

jrg

@GeorgeEdison congrats, you found a bug.

/me reports to github

Oxwivi

Any Lubuntu user here?

jrg

raises hand

htorque

raises eyebrow

Oxwivi

There's a package in lubuntu-desktop called gnome-time-admin. Do I need it it if I want time on my panel?

(installing on a base system)

jrg

10:33 AM

I think so.

Oxwivi

Tsk. It's got a dependency on a gnome-system-tools as well. Useless stuff.

@jrg Oh yeah, does it locks screen? What package provides that?

jrg

@Oxwivi xscreensaver.

no shortcut (like gnome's Ctrl-Alt-L) for it though.

Oxwivi

Well, I had once removed gnome-screensaver and installed xscreensaver on regular Natty. Didn't lock any screens.

jrg

you have to configure it.

Oxwivi

What do I have to do?

jrg

10:39 AM

use the lubuntu defaults. :P

Oxwivi

Um, and how do I do that?

jrg

11:07 AM

Install lubuntu-desktop fully?

Oxwivi

Dun wanna too much things I'll never use.

Questions Feed

11:32 AM

Can you answer this? Shutdown stuck at Ubuntu logo http://askubuntu.com/questions/66108/shutdown-stuck-at-ubuntu-logo #shutdown

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 27, 2011 at 11:18 AM

jrg

12:23 PM

@JorgeCastro updated for gnome3..

Oxwivi

@jrg How do I get the Lubuntu session to use Compiz?

jrg

@Oxwivi Alt-F2, compiz --replace

or, if alt-f2 doesn't work, open a terminal, do compiz --replace& and then wait for it to work it's magic.

Oxwivi

@jrg That's temporary isn't it? That's why I mentioned session.

jrg

Well, yeah.

you can set it up in lubuntu login settings to do that for you.

Oxwivi

@jrg Um, command line method for that?

jrg

12:25 PM

I don't know. Sorry. :(

Oxwivi

@jrg Do you know which file has this settings? On GNOME, there's /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/...

Can't find it's equivalent in Lubuntu.

For LXDE.

jrg

Hangon, let me switch to my lubuntu/LXDE session.

Oxwivi

@jrg Sorry for the trouble, and thanks.

jrg

It's not trouble, I need to stop what I'm currently doing anyway, I need to start doing real work. :P

and LXDE will make it possible to do that. ;)

UGHHDHFHDSF. KDE IS SO DANG FLASHY!!!! D:

Oxwivi

Yeah, I can't handle it either.

jrg

12:31 PM

It's so laggy too. :P

(sorry KDE fans, it's just not my cup of tea)

Oxwivi

12:43 PM

@jrg Edited your answer - after it's accepted, maybe you can add oneliner to restore the back ups?

Oxwivi

1:03 PM

@jrg Anything turn up regarding the L?

jrg

Looking around for that now.

@Oxwivi Ok, I'll see what I can do about that.

@Oxwivi - wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LXDE#Autostart_Programs

Oxwivi

@jrg Thanks!

jrg

1:22 PM

You're welcome. :)

Oxwivi

So should I add compiz --replace command to any of those autostart files? :/ I was hoping for a cleaner method.

jrg

that's the only way I know.

assuming LXDE.org is up, I might be able to find something there.

Oxwivi

Oh yeah, what happened to it? I found it down yesterday.

jrg

No idea, I'm sending an email to the LXDE list now.

Oxwivi

1:38 PM

@jrg Compiz thing bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=812598#p812598

jrg

I think we need to get this on the site so we can update this/find it easily...

Arch forums are nice and all, but they still suffer from forumitis.

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Jorge Castro

@jrg I always just slef document anything I do on AU

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jrg

Good idea.

Marco Ceppi

2:02 PM

@htorque i.imgur.com/SzuXA.png

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Stefano Palazzo

2:12 PM

@GeorgeEdison morning :)

and hello o/

Oxwivi

@StefanoPalazzo The greeting is kinda late isn't it?

Stefano Palazzo

@Oxwivi I would've thought it's about morning where George is

Guria

I've tried to award +50 bounty to the answer but it doesn't work.

Stefano Palazzo

I can never remember which of the 7 million timezones he's in (:

The Evil One

yawn

morning everyone

Oxwivi

2:15 PM

Ah, oh, I confused it with someone else saying good morning.

Good evening, @TheEvilOne

The Evil One

@jrg ping

(for when he surfaces)

Stefano Palazzo

it's @636 .beats :)

The Evil One

@StefanoPalazzo today's stardate is 65285.9

:P

Oxwivi

Anyone know more about Compiz flags than the manpages?

The Evil One

2:30 PM

@Oxwivi manpages know best :P

Oxwivi

Eh, I need to know more details about what it means.

Or is there any Compiz-dedicated IRC?

The Evil One

#compiz @ irc.freenode.net, maybe

Oxwivi

Maybe you say.

Will try anyway.

Nope, #compiz is empty as vacuum.

Questions Feed

Can you answer this? Will I be able to install Full-Disk Encryption with the Live CD installer? http://askubuntu.com/questions/65541/will-i-be-able-to-install-full-disk-encryption-with-the-live-cd-installer #installation

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 27, 2011 at 2:18 PM

Oxwivi

Oh wait, wrong server. -_-

Hmm, #compiz@freenode has peoples, but they're all dead bodies. :(

htorque

3:02 PM

@MarcoCeppi HAHA

The Evil One

@Oxwivi ##Linux @ irc.freenode.net or #ubuntu @ irc.freenode.net ?

Oxwivi

@TheEvilOne ?

Some people revived as zombies, so it's okay.

arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/10/…

Maybe we can finally say goodbye to the crappy, perpetually beta, Skype client.

Marco Ceppi

@Oxwivi Finally.

Oxwivi

I wonder if GNOME dev would bother to take note and develop something for Skype.

Speaking of which, they'd first implement IRC's DCC. I couldn't care less about Skype, IRC and DCC FTW!

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

3:22 PM

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Q: Where to find the error messages of Postfix

I cannot sent mail by using Postfix (SMTP) on Ubuntu Server 11.04. So, there must be some errors, But where to see the error message?

ubuntu logs postfix

Oxwivi

Amber Graner says: "Jorge Castro – Jorge told me once when I was trying to figure what I could and couldn’t do in the community, “Amber, just do shit!” That was probably the most encouraging moment to date."

I would love to star that, sadly it's my own post.

The Evil One

3:38 PM

@Oxwivi other channels :P

Oxwivi

@TheEvilOne Yeah, figured what you meant a bit too late, but got what I wanted anyway. Thanks.

The Evil One

:P

Oxwivi

Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day approaches folks!

Amith KK

3:59 PM

Hello all

Evening @AmithKK

@Oxwivi Evening

'sup?

@Oxwivi It was salvage day and i got electronic stuff from my old analog joysticks

Oxwivi

Anything better than a Pentium IV?

Amith KK

4:10 PM

nah

Oxwivi

Aw... To hell with salvage days, then. :P

George Edison

4:39 PM

@StefanoPalazzo: You around?

Stefano Palazzo

@GeorgeEdison hi, yeah :)

@GeorgeEdison Hello

\O/

Hey guys

@kal Hello

4:40 PM

@StefanoPalazzo: I really need some Python help.

kal

Could someone help me out with fixing my display in Ubuntu 11.10

George Edison

I'm writing a module that manages an external resource.

...and I need to make sure that resource gets freed.

Stefano Palazzo

right

what do you mean by freed?

George Edison

Someone told me to stay away from __del__.

Amith KK

<extreme_python>

Stefano Palazzo

4:41 PM

yeah you better

George Edison

@StefanoPalazzo Well, there's a call to an external library method Free() that needs to be made.

Stefano Palazzo

hang on, I'll show you a nice pattern

George Edison

(I'm using ctypes.)

is thrilled.

Stefano Palazzo

class Resource (object):

    def __enter__(self):
        self.resource = magic()
        return self.resource

    def __exit__(self, type, value, traceback):
        self.resource.free()


with Resource() as r:
    print(r.value)

Amith KK

@StefanoPalazzo google.co.in/…

Stefano Palazzo

4:43 PM

makes sense?

thanks amith, that looks interesting

Amith KK

anytime

George Edison

@StefanoPalazzo Cool! Do I need to do anything special to use the with statement?

Stefano Palazzo

you just need a class that implements __enter__ and __exit__

like a wrapper class around the real resource

Amith KK

@StefanoPalazzo can you do that free resource thing in C?

George Edison

Great, that looks easy enough... last question... what about an entire module?

I have an Init() method called when a module is imported and a Free() method that needs to get called when interaction with the module is complete.

Stefano Palazzo

4:46 PM

@GeorgeEdison you could make your whole module act like a class, so that it can have enter and exit methods, but I advise against it

kal

Hey guys, My virtual consoles are messed up in 11.10, they look like this i.imgur.com/99iyu.png. Is there a way i can fix it

Stefano Palazzo

it's better to have one big class in your module, like this

from thing.resource import ExternalResource
with ExternalResource("data.txt") as r:
    ...

kal

My virtual Consoles were fine pre-upgrade from 10.04

Stefano Palazzo

@GeorgeEdison you mean function, not method, yes?

George Edison

@StefanoPalazzo Yeah, function.

Stefano Palazzo

4:47 PM

(both should have lowecase names by the way)

kal

What do u mean amith

Stefano Palazzo

@GeorgeEdison if you have an init() function, you might as well make it a class

classes can also have classes as members of course

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Amith KK

@kal Was it totally fine in 10.04?

George Edison

Oh right.

kal

Im 100% sure it was

Amith KK

4:48 PM

Try rebooting into recovery mide

kal

But after the upgrade i had to install gnome-shell and gdm. I believe thats what caused the issue

or maybe i did an update to xdm

Is this some resolution issue that i can fix by changing some configuration file?

Amith KK

</extreme_python>

@kal delete xorg.conf and restart

@StefanoPalazzo you look to me like this:

kal

Ok. let me try that

Amith KK

kal

@AmithKK Should I delete xorg config in recovery or its irrelavant ?

Amith KK

4:51 PM

@kal irrevalent

kal

@AmithKK I dont seem to have an xorg.conf. Shouldnt it be in /etc/X11/?

Amith KK

omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/its-game-over-for-linux-apparently/…

kal

Hmm, the comments are pretty funny

Btw where do I find xorg.conf?

I feel like i shouldnt have installed xdm

Amith KK

@kal umm.. un-install it?

kal

xdm isnt require am i right?

Amith KK

5:00 PM

I think

kal

I removed xdm still no avail :(. sigh

The Evil One

5:19 PM

explodes

@JorgeCastro what is "slef document" :P

Amith KK

BBT

Questions Feed

5:40 PM

Can you answer this? Unable to view text on OMG! Ubuntu! website in Firefox 7 http://askubuntu.com/questions/64935/unable-to-view-text-on-omg-ubuntu-website-in-firefox-7 #firefox

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 27, 2011 at 5:18 PM

George Edison

Launchpad's code hosting is down.

Marco Ceppi

►

Oli

5:55 PM

Oh PHP makes me want to cry.

By that I mean it makes me want to cry lakes of burning napalm that I can throw the PHP and Wordpress developers into.

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Oxwivi

Make a fork of Wordpress and make it use alternatives like Ruby on Rails.

1

Q: Overlapping text in Software Center

As can be seen from the image, some text gets overlapped in the Description field of the software. Has anyone else experienced this? Should I report a bug against software-center?

software-center 11.10

Question relevant to 11.10 beta. Close?

@AmithKK and everyone else too: arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/10/…

George Edison

6:20 PM

answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/176394

Doesn't seem too hard.

ajmitch

@Oli can I help throw them in please?

Oli

It's going to take a while to round them up so every extra pair of hands is welcome. We should probably organise some sort of raiding party to start herding up Drupal devs too.

rabidmachine9

6:42 PM

hello there

I tried to disable password

from System Settings->Acounts

and now I can't install anything

or enter as super user

whenever I enter pass it returns an authentication error

anybody have any clue?

I'm on 11.10

brunopereira81

7:29 PM

hello

rabidmachine9

7:41 PM

hi

Questions Feed

8:41 PM

Under what specific conditions should a question be flagged as "very low quality"? http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/1948/under-what-specific-conditions-should-a-question-be-flagged-as-very-low-quality

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 27, 2011 at 8:18 PM

ajmitch

10:49 PM

2

Q: Find what package supplied a tool / application in Ubuntu 11.10

When you type a command in the terminal in Ubuntu that you have not installed but can supplied by a package Ubuntu will suggest the package to be installed. How do I do the other way around? How do I look for what package supplied the command I am typing in a terminal? dpkg -S /usr/bin/termi...

11.10 terminal apt applications

@brunopereira81 I really don't see what you're asking there

since the output is what's intended - the termit package provides /usr/bin/termit

George Edison

11:21 PM

Anyone have an idea about this: launchpadlibrarian.net/83858021/buildlog.txt.gz

make[1]: *** No rule to make target `distclean'.

What does that mean? ...and why is it suddenly an error when the branch is virtually unchanged since yesterday when it built without error?

Oh no wait... that's getting ignored.

ajmitch

swag finally arrived today

George Edison

@ajmitch Sweet! The t-shirt looks pretty awesome, huh?

brunopereira81

@ajmitch sleepiness is my only excuse for the shame I feel atm! :P

ajmitch

11:38 PM

@GeorgeEdison yeah it looks pretty good

@brunopereira81 heh

that moment when you realise you've asked something blindingly obvious - isn't it brilliant?

Questions Feed

Find what package supplied a tool / application in Ubuntu 11.10 http://askubuntu.com/questions/72956/find-what-package-supplied-a-tool-application-in-ubuntu-11-10 #terminal

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on October 27, 2011 at 11:18 PM

brunopereira81

@ajmitch feeling: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! bash head against wall

George Edison

English even has a word for that: facepalm :)

brunopereira81

yeah but my palm was not big enough for the silliness present on the situation so head bash seems more appropriate :D

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