Game Development

Today I'm actually finally getting around to enabling/disabling platform-specific settings based on my "Scripting Define Symbols", rather than toggling a bunch of platform-specific gameobjects

Jon

Man when you get bigger you should start publishing for a couple of us here

Chris McFarland

desktop - steam? drm-free?
android - touchscreen? fire tv?
iOS? which shares touchscreen features with Android
xbox one?
wii u?
nevermind that the mobile platforms don't support local co-op so I disable that scene manually
and Unity's Audio DSP buffer sizes can't be set via scripting so I have to change them manually every time I switch my build platform lol :( so much manual stuff... trying to automate it a bit more today where possible

Maybe. Thing with being a one-person band is every task takes up time

can't delegate :/

Jon

Working with someone like me

Chris McFarland

In theory though, since I have a Wii U devkit, could sign some deals if I was bored

Jon

All you need to do is publicize to your fans. And make some select builds

With live Skype support

Chris McFarland

12:39 AM

haha :)

ports, it's really just about handling platform-specific controls, saving/loading, and achievements

one thing I like about selling on itch.io, is there's no payout threshold :)

can do instant payout to your paypal

Sie

I wonder if it's worth porting to Fire TV.

Chris McFarland

For me, not really

Sie

Most people use it for streaming iirc.

Chris McFarland

I only did it cuz Amazon gifted me one

made like, maybe $200 over a year lol

sold more copies on the Fire TV than the Windows Store though lol

Windows Store... 2 copies last I looked

Sie

Sounds like a poor choice of time invested tbh.

Chris McFarland

12:46 AM

Yep, and now I know

thing is, doing this blindly, I have no idea what to expect

doesn't help that I don't really do marketing, but organic purchases without advertising are a thing on some platforms

other platforms, not so much

Windows Store was a joke though cuz my game wouldn't appear in the platformers category

didn't even appear unless you searched for it
I think they've updated the store a little so it's better now

but I put in a ticket going, uhhh where is my game? And MS replied, "mmm something something algorithms"

Sie

lol

Sounds typical.

Everyone over on Reddit seems happy about games coming to Windows 10. However really all they are doing is just swapping from one closed garden another lol.

Chris McFarland

so this Wii U, hopefully I'll get this out to USA, Canada, and Mexico in 3 months maybe if I'm lucky. will tackle Nintend of Europe during or after that, but I have no idea how many copies it will sell. Only one way to find out though
Same with this Xbox One thing

haha. My experiences with Windows 10 aren't that great

Sie

As far as VR goes on my end. I kind of feel a little bit of a rush. Consoles are starting to get into VR and tbh while I want my game to be the best it can be I'd also like it to be kind of novel too.

Chris McFarland

some of my nz dev peeps, we were discussing VR userbase yesterday

if you look at Valve's "The Lab" listing

there's like maybe 150,000 users

which is probably a good indication of how many have purchased a Vive

Sie

That doesn't sound too terrible tbh.

@ChrisMcFarland Well you might want to take into account how many aren't able or don't care for room scale. I'm in the first half of that group.

Chris McFarland

12:54 AM

Yeah, I don't have the space.. - well, I could have the space but I've got 2 kids who would love to tangle up the cords I'm sure :P

plus the cost
and I've yet to see a game I'd be wanting to play every day for a month

I'd rather buy a new iPad than a VR set atm

Sie

Honestly I like the idea of room scale VR but as it stands it demands too much and feels like a gimmick.

Chris McFarland

mmmm
time will tell if it stays as a decent thing or not

I'd love to try it

Sie

Room Scale or VR in general?

Chris McFarland

Both I guess

the practicality of hooking a bunch of wires up and zoning myself out from the world

I have no free weekends, and when I do have free time during the week, I'm working

Sie

Before Google Cardboard I was a skeptic of VR. After that though I was sold on just how immersive it makes games. I like the Vive a lot but not so much for room scale but more so for the motion controls.

Chris McFarland

12:56 AM

just not gonna happen any time soon with my lifestyle

I've tried a couple Samsung phone VR thingies but wasn't that impressed

Sie

Ya. Definitely going to need to be stream lined for the main stream audience.

Chris McFarland

it's a big obstacle

Sie

Have you tried a Vive or Oculus? The Vive is amazing.

Chris McFarland

whereas phones, super accessible
consoles and computer, just need a screen and a pair of speakers or headphones

Nah haven't tried either, would like to though

Sie

As far as the Oculus it was practically dead after it sold out to FB and I think it will be on it's way out in the next year.

Only time will tell though.

Chris McFarland

12:58 AM

yeah

reminds me of the Blu-ray and HD-DVD fight

Sie

Wasn't much of a fight lol. Blu-ray noticed HD-DVD and looked back and then when it looked again it was gone. That's what happens when you have an inferior product and a high barrier of entry though.

Chris McFarland

hehe

PearsonArtPhoto

1:18 AM

I personally think HD-DVD was a bit better, but I never owned one of them, so...

Sie

2:16 AM

Rick & Morty - Retarded

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user92578

7:54 AM

Morning!

user92578

user92578

Improved the crushing transition

user92578

Weapon still drops trough

user92578

8:10 AM

user92578

Smoother!

Shaun Wild

i.stack it please

ffs I still can't see it

user92578

Can you see gfycats?

user92578

The gifs are too big to upload to imgur

Shaun Wild

I think so

No I can't

wtf is this

Blue Bug

8:14 AM

More blood plz!

user92578

gfycat.com/SphericalUnhappyDeinonychus

Blue Bug

btw lighting is very good looking smooth

user92578

that's nice to hear

Shaun Wild

Can you hardlink the actual back end webm from their cdn?

user92578

zippy.gfycat.com/SphericalUnhappyDeinonychus.webm

Shaun Wild

8:18 AM

Was worth a shot

user92578

damn imgur's size limits

Shaun Wild

So I took a look at Slick2D yesterday

And it's sooo intuitive and easy to use

And you can render loads of images without any performance loss

I can't wait to make my first proper game on it

user92578

that's the advantage of accelerated rendering! :)

Blue Bug

I want to see the whole of the lighting, mind uploading a screenshot?

user92578

Shaun Wild

8:23 AM

Wow that's awesome

Damn I'm envious of your drawing :(

Blue Bug

The lighting really makes hack of difference I can tell, though I wouldn't mind ambient light added instead a total dark

user92578

I've spent time working on it, I showed you sprites from when I started, right?

user92578

@BlueBug Yeah I can see your point but I think I'll go with this approach

Shaun Wild

@Tyyppi_77 no

user92578

8:29 AM

That's from the GunHero prototype that took me like a year to make

Blue Bug

oh man...

user92578

yeah, I've come a long way

user92578

that was a little later

Blue Bug

your character now looks more civil, than a soldier.

is that intended?

user92578

8:34 AM

yeah it is, GunHero in the currect iteration is just a normal guy who's had some military training

Shaun Wild

Your art then is far better than mine now though..

user92578

The point is that I practiced. Nothing comes for free.

Shaun Wild

Meh I think I'll just quit forever

Bye everyone

NaCl

bye

Shaun Wild

8:56 AM

Bye..

Uri Popov

any easy way to expose a array of Color32 in the Unity inspector ?

Shaun Wild

make it public

Uri Popov

it is public

Shaun Wild

Then it should be exposed

Uri Popov

its not. I;m gonna restart it and see if that helps.

yep

that solved it

Shaun Wild

9:06 AM

You're welcome

Uri Popov

you didn't actually help me but thank you.

Shaun Wild

Hahaha

I set you on the right train of thought

Chris McFarland

Is there any difference between Color and Color32?

cuz I know Colors can be exposed/inspected

oh you solved it, nvm :D

Shaun Wild

Color is floating point I believe

Color32 is a 32bit int

Chris McFarland

ah kk

Shaun Wild

9:12 AM

0..1f vs 0..255 per component

Chris McFarland

ah yes, cool

Shaun Wild

Hey Chris, without googling it...

Why is the sky blue?

Chris McFarland

science

Shaun Wild

Noice

Nitrogenous Refraction?

Is that a thing?

It should be called that if it is.

Chris McFarland

something like that, yeah

Shaun Wild

9:31 AM

Jesus, companies are cramming 512GB into MICRO SDs nowadays!!

NaCl

cool. :D

Shaun Wild

What did you remove?

Jon

9:48 AM

none of your business

was a guy shooting up here last night

at 2am

Chris McFarland

D:

Jon

he shot up a car down the road

cops had the area locked down until just now

so i'm working from home

Chris McFarland

damn

Shaun Wild

Ugh I hate your country.

First Orlando

Now Jon's street

Chris McFarland

damn canada

Shaun Wild

9:58 AM

hahahaha

Jon

friggen canadians with their bolt action rifles

Chris McFarland

lol

Blue Bug

gun should not be allowed in the hands of civilian, I think.

Shaun Wild

^

They shouldn't allowed in the hands of anyone!

Blue Bug

~~idly~~ ideally... yes...

Shaun Wild

10:07 AM

idly?

I don't love you?

Blue Bug

lol typo

Shaun Wild

You actually striked it through so people knew what I was referring to

that's so stacky of you

**Stacky**

*Adjective*

*Someone who uses many mannerisms and copies many traits of the StackExchange Community*

That's embarrasing

Why didn't it format

Blue Bug

I don't love you @ShaunWild but I don't dislike you either. And I am willing to love you if you happen to be my lover of destiny. I am open to the possbility @ShaunWild Do you want to netfix and chill with me perhaps?

Shaun Wild

It depends. Are you male or female?

Blue Bug

it is 21st century, come on.

Shaun Wild

10:11 AM

LOL

Imagine if sexuality just wasn't a thing by 2200

Everyone was just bisexual

Blue Bug

yes people will no longer continue physical activities and just crawl back in their room with virtual reality.

Shaun Wild

Hahahaha oo spoo🗝

Blue Bug

I have hooked up everything from opengl stuff to glm. I am like super close to rendering light and shadow map.

2015 16 16 00

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I just realized I am just rendering basic shapes and bunnies for 10 days; just to set up things and start to going.

Chris McFarland

@ShaunWild it doesn't format if you add a newline. it's pretty poor

Shaun Wild

I really want to make a game :(

**Stacky** *Adjective*

omeone who uses many mannerisms and copies many traits of the StackExchange Community

ffs

Blue Bug

10:16 AM

I want to make a game too!

Shaun Wild

You just can't win can you

Blue Bug can we make a game together

As a 21st century couple

I want to make a 2d platform arena

Blue Bug

yes we can. I will come up with ideas and you do the art and programming.

No I said I will come up with ideas.

Shaun Wild

You do the art I'll do the programming, we both do ideas

Blue Bug

I want full 2d lighting+shadow and fluid particle effects including gas.

gas has to be interacting with world geometry.

Jon

like fart gas?

Blue Bug

10:19 AM

also my art will require you to compute the game to be able to slow time back and forth like in game Braids.

Fart gas sounds good. We will require fart samples for that @ShaunWild

Jon

good idea, start with fart sounds Shaun

get us a nice variety

preferably various ethnicities as well, just go around public and ask politely, should be okay

NaCl

@BlueBug it just has to use some euler fluid action as well

ya know, for the more wet fart or whatever

Jon

that would be a shart

Chris McFarland

just add some reverb

NaCl

"leaen c++ in one video" okaydokey

NaCl

10:43 AM

guys

Where in the world are those dino games? When I was really young, those games were THE thing but nowadays it's just zombies

Jon

Yeah man we need to bring back the dinogames

Shaun Wild

I want to make a tile based game

With a gas mechanic

Jon

no you don't

Shaun Wild

I dunno how the gas works exactly but with some kind of 2d flooding

And gasses interacting with the player/ other gasses

Chris McFarland

@NaCl ARK?

Shaun Wild

10:46 AM

the gas could work like cell autoomata

Chris McFarland

but yeah, Jurassic Park and DinoWorld and stuff

Turok

NaCl

ARK is not the 'same' :(

Jon

Chuck Rock

Chris McFarland

haha yeah :(

ohh yeah!
those 16-bit caveman platformers

Jon

BC's quest for tires

Chris McFarland

10:48 AM

not exactly dinos, but

RAMPAGE

Jon

bubble bobble

Chris McFarland

I also remember a dino fighter in the arcades

Shaun Wild

With my new found love for accelerated rendering

ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE

NaCl

You abandon Java?

Shaun Wild

Nope

Jon

10:49 AM

Primal Rage

Shaun Wild

I just use a library which supports OpenGL

NaCl

She'll be sad you love another one

Shaun Wild

Slick2D

Jon

remember primal rage? one of the dinosaurs farted on you

and pissed

NaCl

Yeah xD

Shaun Wild

10:50 AM

Oh god you just reminded me..

Jon

Shaun Wild

Who remembers The Stomping Land

Jon

Chris McFarland

@Jon lol, i dont remember the pissing, but that's the one

Jon

Here is the fart attack

Chris McFarland

10:50 AM

lol

NaCl

Much better than zombies

Jon

3

gif of piss attack

This was a fatality move

Chris McFarland

lol

soon we'll get robodinos

Jon

wut is that?

Chris McFarland

Horizon: Zero Dawn for PS4

Jon

10:53 AM

meh.. console exclusives are all shit except for zelda :)

Chris McFarland

I can never remember the name

Jon

PS4 has gotten themselves quite a nice lineup of exclusives

Chris McFarland

I just google "redhead robot dinos"

NaCl

@Jon Crash Bandicoot

Jon

not buying one though, frig that.

I KNOW

GODDAMN REMAKES OF 1,2,3

That is pretty gangster

Chris McFarland

10:54 AM

quora.com/…

How did game developers pack entire games into so little memory twenty five years ago?
"Here's a related anecdote from the late 1990s. I was one of the two programers (along with Andy Gavin) who wrote Crash Bandicoot for the PlayStation 1."
good read

Jon

Read it a while back, agree it is a great read

There was an expanded article on it too

all-things-andy-gavin.com/2011/02/02/…

Here is the actual article in question.

Chris McFarland

ah nice

Jon

it is a long read ;)

NaCl

"Try explaining this to a crabby artist at 3 in the morning. :)" lolol

Jon