Game Development

12:04 AM

And finally, to close with solid proof of the complete irrelevance of any exponential friction:

> I'm using Hooke's Law here as the definition of a spring.

But it should be noted that the notion of improved accuracy in the original proposition is also false, because the proposed modification produced an oscillating system where the envelope does not decay, thus rendering the behavior completely unusable for the asker's task.

Almo

@TheMuffinCoder you sure it's not actually a doge JS miner?

TheMuffinCoder

@Almo lol nope, chrome is using 0.5% cpu rn and i have the bitcoin and litcoin faucets open as well

they earn money by me having the ads open so I get free dogecoins for leaving the tab open

Lol apparently js miners aren't plausible rn anymore

tereško

1:27 AM

quick question: gimp or krita?

SpicyWeenie

Stackoverflow: Where egos run wild for those easily butt-hurt. (Stool softener not included.)

Chris

1:49 AM

@SpicyWeenie Downvotes cut through the soul lol

Aidan Mueller

His Hand Doesn't Even Move

►

Apparently he got kicked out of MIT.

But nice lines.

Almo

2:44 AM

:D

MickLH

4:00 AM

Aw... embarrassing to ask, @Ali.S, but could you help with a simple question?

Hint: No. lol no you can't.

Hjorthenify

5:54 AM

@tereško GIMP

@Chris Was wondering if you've used Unity Remote

Don't click on my profile

@TheMuffinCoder How many dogecoins do you get per hour :D? And can one open them in multiple tabs?

user92578

I'd guess that the ad registering is an per-IP thing

Aidan Mueller

6:48 AM

The Roanoke colony mystery really annoys me.

Dev2rights

7:02 AM

How the ...... do you even do dotted lines like that

mind blown...

Aidan Mueller

7:16 AM

@Dev2rights I think he holds it in such a way that the chalk bounces across the board.

Dev2rights

Wizardry

Martin Sojka

7:33 AM

@tereško For casual editing, Gimp (or Inkscape).

Ali.S

@MickLH but I can... feel happy with yourself...

SpicyWeenie

Is it better to call native openGL code wrapped in C++/CLI in WPF/SharpGL? Or create an OpenGL control to host the window in WPF? Hmmmm...

Chris

@Hjorthenify Yeah I use Unity Remote 4 on both Android and iOS. Android one sometimes just doesn't wanna connect up though some days

Kevin van der Velden

reads transcript on mobile I feel mick is just devolving in to a troll more and more

Hjorthenify

@Chris Do I need to install the android SDK first?

Ali.S

7:47 AM

@MickLH and by the way... I couldn't improve accuracy, because I was completely trying to solve the problem from a different perspective. One that you couldn't even comprehend, and I've never seen anyone else to use it. So stop this non-sense argument already.

Chris

@Hjorthenify Yes, I believe you do

Hjorthenify

That might be why I couldn't get it to work then :/

Chris

has to be able to communicate with the device

Hjorthenify

yeah

Im bored out of my mind in introductory programming

SpicyWeenie

@Hjorthenify which language?

Hjorthenify

7:51 AM

Java

Any really. We're just going through basic variable types

SpicyWeenie

Over half your class isn't going to make it to the end lol

Chris

make an interactive program that eventually results in, "Teacher, may I please be excused from this class?"

or just ask to do the final test hahaha

Hjorthenify

@Chris I could choose not to show up to the classes, but I'm worried I'll miss something such as how they expect variables to be named and such

Chris

yeah..

SpicyWeenie

My final project for my introductory Java class was an English to Morse Code and vice versa translator

Hjorthenify

7:53 AM

Also I did ask for the final test, but without luck -.-

Chris

dang lol

Hjorthenify

@SpicyWeenie Sounds simple enough :P

Dev2rights

I know quite a few people who did that as a Uni project

my first year project was to create a Hunt the Wumpus Game

text based artwork

Hjorthenify

@Chris What I've learned so far: Constants(final) have to be written in uppercase(which I already knew was good practice)

SpicyWeenie

In my advanced class, I made a desktop overlay to replace Windows 7's desktop

Chris

7:57 AM

@Hjorthenify A+

Hjorthenify

:P

SpicyWeenie

I hated the coin toss example with strings

@Hjorthenify are there any girls in your class?

Hjorthenify

2

SpicyWeenie

I'm pretty sure one will try to cling to the smartest kid all semester riding his coattail

all my classes had one

Chris

man, I remember this one student, he was super slack

constant excuses for why homework wasn't done, always trying to ask us other fellow students after class all this stuff... think he just didn't get computers

SpicyWeenie

8:22 AM

I had one girl that suckered a male student to do all her homework and take-home projects for her. The professor failed her at the end, because the quality contrasted from in-class work

user92578

I'm not proud of this, but on 7th grade, when I was just a stupid nerd, I let all the pretty girls on my class copy most of my homework...

Chris

:P

user92578

Anyways, I've got another two hour break now between classes

user92578

And because of it's friday, I came home to eat some pasta from a bag and do some programming

user92578

I've got this piece of code that is pretty much duplicated again...

user92578

8:32 AM

But one piece does things in a loop with the Y value and the other one does stuff with the X value

user92578

It's inside two nested loops...

user92578

Ends up with like 5 braces at the end

user92578

	// Loops over the tiles in it.
	for (unsigned int y = 0; y < levelHeight; y++)
	{
		for (unsigned int x = 0; x < levelWidth; x++)
		{
			// If there is a tile at the position, set the value in the mask map.
			if (auto collisionItem = collisionData.GetGridItemAt(x, y))
			{
				for (unsigned int insideX = x + 1; insideX < levelWidth; insideX++)
				{
					if (collisionData.GetGridItemAt(insideX, y).H == collisionItem.H)
					{
						collisionData.SetGridItemAt(TLevelEditorCollisionRect(), insideX, y);

user92578

And then I have another piece where insideX is replaced with insideY, and then used of course as the Y value

user92578

Any ideas?

user92578

8:35 AM

The code differs actually on other parts

user92578

So maybe I'll just leave it out

Martin Sojka

Sometimes nested loops is just what you have to live with.

Sadly very few languages support something like for( unsigned int (x, y) in (0..levelWidth, 0..levelHeight) ) ... (at least not easily)

Kevin van der Velden

I don't know of any languages that support that (in a method that does not devolve into calling a function every iteration))

Jovito

Tuple unpacking?

Python supports it.

Kevin van der Velden

Yes, but generating that tuple still devolves into a function call

Jovito

8:42 AM

you mean the underscore underscore type of function?

Kevin van der Velden

Note that we're talking about for( unsigned int (x, y) in (0..levelWidth, 0..levelHeight) ) syntax

Jovito

yeah

Kevin van der Velden

In python the tuples would be generated by [ (x,y) for x in range(width) for y in range(height) ]

Which is several function calls

Jovito

oh

Kevin van der Velden

>>> for a, b in [(x,y) for x in range(4) for y in range(4)]:
...     print( a, b )

Jovito

8:44 AM

coffeescript has the x..y notation

Kevin van der Velden

Is perfectly valid and does what you expect but is still a bunch of function calls

Martin Sojka

@KevinvanderVelden Oh, I can actually do that in Java. It's a bit of trickery and magic and fun with implementing your own Range class which implements Iterable in a way which only need the minimum of state data, and only really hides the nested loops, but it's possible. Just not easily.

user92578

~20 lines for getting a filename from a dialog in windows seems reasonable

user92578

Someday I gotta go trough my codebase and translate all this stuff so that it works on Linux and Mac too

Kevin van der Velden

@MartinSojka iterable is still a bunch of function calls =p

@Jovito only for generating a list, and you can't do 2 loops in it as far as I can tell

Jovito

8:48 AM

You can zip both lists and traverse that instead.

Kevin van der Velden

@Jovito that's just doing the function calls sooner =p

(Admittedly, useful if you're going to do the same loop a bunch of times)

user92578

Okay now I'm going to make the pasta from the bag

user92578

I'll be back in an half and hour or so

Jovito

What do you mean its just a function call? Aren't most procedures reduced to a function call at some level?

Kevin van der Velden

@Jovito yes, but a loop of for ( int i = 0; i < 10; i++ ) is no function calls

Martin Sojka

8:53 AM

So basically, Java's version would look like for( Pair<Integer> point : new IntegerRange(0, levelWidth, 0, levelHeight) ) with a simple constant Pair<T> class for same-type values and an IntegerRange implementing Iterator<Pair<Integer>> to create an Iterator<Pair<Integer>> on request.

Kevin van der Velden

So, a new reference type construction and deconstruction and at least one function call per iteration? =p

Martin Sojka

.. and that's the point where you start asking yourself if starting a new life as a hermit in Siberia isn't the better alternative.

Kevin van der Velden

Does not meet my simple requirements of "No extra function calls"

Martin Sojka

The good news is that you can mark every single class and method in that chain as final, which lets the compiler and runtime strip the function calls and inline the whole thing.

Also, class constructor in Java is heapPointer += class.dataSize followed by executing whatever is in the constructor.

It's the garbage collection which eats processor time like crazy.

Note to Java programmers: Be nice to your garbage collector, reuse your instances.

Kevin van der Velden

Yeah, so in my js13k the map size is 256*256, that's 65536 extra references to collect for no good reason

While a for ( int x = 0; x < levelWidth; x++ ) for ( int y = 0; y < levelHeight; y++ ) has way less code, is unlikely to have bugs, causes 2 primitives to be allocated on the stack, does not require you to access a value on the heap for every iteration, etc

I'd say that does not actually support multiple for loops in one statement

(Where support means: Can do it in a roughly as efficient fashion as regular ones)

Martin Sojka

9:02 AM

@KevinvanderVelden In the example above, it's one reference for IntegerRange, one for Pair<Integer> (you're not supposed to hold onto them ... and if you want to, clone them first) and one for Iterator<Pair<Integer>>.

As I wrote: Reuse your instances. In this case, the Pair<Integer> instance.

Kevin van der Velden

@MartinSojka that is going to cause so many bugs =p

Because that is not the expected behaviour =p

I mean, yes it is way more performant but still

Martin Sojka

@KevinvanderVelden Programmers not reading the documentation cause bugs? No, really?

Kevin van der Velden

@MartinSojka I mean, you could just go the PHP route and make everything behave in a subtly different way. But otherwise people are going to expect a roughly standard behaviour of things

Don't click on my profile

Can anybody please explain to me how a vector is actually helping me shooting a bullet to the position of my mouse? I don't get it :c I got the vector distance and even a unit vector but how do these variables serve me? How can I actually use them for my bullet movement?

Martin Sojka

"Don't store instances of this object" is roughly standard behaviour of many, many Java libraries already. In particular when you're dealing with the UI and various renderers, or database connection pooling, or various other classes which optimise away costly operations by first gathering what you're trying to do, then doing them only when you're finished.

Kevin van der Velden

9:16 AM

@MartinSojka meh, I don't know enough java to go this deep =p

@Don'tclickonmyprofile what would you propose using other then a vector?

(If you say 2 variables, x and y then congratulations! That's a vector without all the helpful bits of having a single class dedicated to it =p)

Martin Sojka

It's just a useful technique to keep in mind when you're dealing with performance issues stemming from creating lots of objects, or costly object creation (like in the case of the database connections).

Don't click on my profile

@KevinvanderVelden I really don't know. I am probably too stupid :D

Kevin van der Velden

@MartinSojka or alternatively use C++ =p

Martin Sojka

@KevinvanderVelden Establishing a database connection is as costly in C++. :)

@Don'tclickonmyprofile The position of your mouse on screen is a vector. The view direction is a vector. The bullet position is a vector. I'm not sure what the question here is ...

Kevin van der Velden

@Don'tclickonmyprofile I'm serious, try writing a bullet class without using a vector. You'll realize that all you are creating a bunch of code over and over again (adding posX = posX + velX; posY = posY + velY). Then you realize you can just store posX,posY in a single instance and voila, you have a vector class

Jovito

9:19 AM

@Don'tclickonmyprofile The vector from the gun to the mouse pos gives the angle with which the bullet will be shot.

Don't click on my profile

Hm well ok

Martin Sojka

Basically, any list of same-type values which are independent from each other is a vector. The amount of values is its dimension.

Kevin van der Velden

Yeah, so the question "What use is a vector in writing a bullet class?" is basically "What use are the position and velocity in writing a bullet class?"

Which should be fairly obvious I hope =p

Don't click on my profile

@KevinvanderVelden yeh you are right

Kevin van der Velden

So the real benefit of a vector class over 2 separate variables is that you can say pos = pos + vel; (in a language that supports operator overloading)

Which you can read and just understand what is happening

Jovito

9:24 AM

Or you can say position.add(velocity) in one that doesn't.

Kevin van der Velden

Yes

Don't click on my profile

Aah okay, that makes sense

Kevin van der Velden

@Jovito though .add is kinda ambiguous. Does it modify position or return a new instance?

Don't click on my profile

Thank you for the advice :D

Martin Sojka

@Jovito ... which hopefully would greet you with an "Incompatible type: Velocity, expected Position" or similar compile-time error.

Jovito

9:26 AM

@KevinvanderVelden True. Pygame names methods name_ip to signify that they change the object in place.

Kevin van der Velden

@Jovito it's also why I like operator overloading + is unambiguous, as is +=

Jovito

Python has operator overloading tho.

Kevin van der Velden

Yeah

Jovito

JS unfortunately doesn't.

Kevin van der Velden

I'm aware, I've used python=p

Jovito

9:27 AM

I know, that's why I brought it up.

Martin Sojka

Vectors are cool, typed vectors save you from bugs like adding velocity to a position without first multiplying it by time, or confusing force with acceleration.

Kevin van der Velden

True

user92578

Added bridge collision box generation:

user92578

Jovito

cool

Don't click on my profile

9:33 AM

That looks really cool :D

user92578

Thanks

Jovito

@MartinSojka I don't like to think about types in a dynamic language like python or js.

Martin Sojka

You'd expect the bridge collision box to be a different one from the general terrain collision box (you can generally jump up from below the bridge). Would be nice to have it displayed somehow, maybe using a different outline colour for the collision box.

Well, unless your game treats bridges and terrain the same, in which case disregard that.

user92578

Bridges are not jumpable from below

user92578

I have different platform visuals for that

user92578

9:36 AM

Bridges are just a pure graphical element

user92578

And I believe that my debug renderer already renders "passable" boxes with a different color

user92578

I think I gotta make a decision on the level data format soon

Martin Sojka

Comparison of data serialization formats

This is a comparison of data serialization formats, various ways to convert complex objects to sequences of bits. It does not include markup languages used exclusively as document file formats. == Overview == a. ^ The current default format is binary. b. ^ The "classic" format is plain text, and an XML format is also supported. c. ^ Theoretically possible due to abstraction, but no implementation is included. d. ^ The primary format is binary, but a text format is available. e. ^ Means that generic tools/libraries know how to encode, decode, and dereference a reference to another piece of data...

user92578

It's probably either TMX, or a custom XML format

Dev2rights

JSON ftw

user92578

9:42 AM

I'm not getting into this conversation again

Dev2rights

though if im sending it over the internet i tend to crunch levels out on a byte level to make them super tiny

Martin Sojka

I typically prefer OpenDDL, with a few custom data types where needed.

Dev2rights

Intersting, im going to read up on that now

thanks

Yeah similar to the binary parser i wrote for Unity, only uses precise number of bits and keeps things nice and small

user92578

For me the decision is a bit tricky, because I can already load TMX files... but then there's really no reason to use a format created for Tiled in the game anymore

Dev2rights

ITs all binary, it can all be serialised and stuck in a blob in any other format too

depends how big the data is oc

having been used to writing games with a stamp size of 52kb i tend to make everything as physically small as possible.

Kevin van der Velden

9:50 AM

Heh

I have no idea what that feels like (cough JS13k)

Also I suppose some nintendo ds development

Dev2rights

yeah right, J2ME was crap. I did a bit of DS development for fun in Uni. So little memory

but taught me a lot of good lessons

pixel perfect collision with bit masks was fun.

The best one was when mobile devices didn't have floating point processors. And calculating physics in fixed point using a single Int. That was fun

Kevin van der Velden

Always fun, the company I interned at had a fixed point number library for it so =p

Dev2rights

Yeah i had to role my own........ If i had £1 for each time i swore at rounding errors .....

Kevin van der Velden

(a template with the base type and an int for where the decimal point is)

Dev2rights

yeah i had to move the decimal in certain calculations to get the most amount of accuracy depending on the calculation to

like ranges from [0-1] or [1 - 100]

Kevin van der Velden

9:57 AM

Eep, no fun

Dev2rights

i wonder what happened to that lib ... ? will have to go through my old Java projects see if ive still got it

might be worth giving away on github

or not...

Kevin van der Velden

Also using java for that kind of stuff is no fun

Dev2rights

Yeah JVM's also handle memory differently

another nightmare with J2ME

Kevin van der Velden

With C++ at least you write one template, add a few typedefs and you're done for all variations possible, with the efficiency of hand writing the variations of each

Dev2rights

Yeah and it is also running on the CPU not thorugh some random home brew JVM

Kevin van der Velden

9:58 AM

Yeah

Dev2rights

So WYSIWYG

user92578

Ladder Trigger Generation is working:

user92578

Dev2rights

anywho i could rant about this for hours, need to finish of the last Archetype for this level editor

Kevin van der Velden

Why does firefox not have requestAnimationFrame, but it does have window.requestAnimationFrame?

Dev2rights

10:02 AM

Because W3C is a farce ?

Kevin van der Velden

Well, isn't everything in window supposed to be the global scope?

user92578

When coding my player class, I assumed that he will always have a gun (the game's called GunHero). However, now in the edit mode, he has no gun, and I'm getting annoying errors...

Kevin van der Velden

@Dev2rights or I'm using firefox 12

That would help

Dev2rights

if ( gun != null ) ?

user92578

YEah

user92578

10:08 AM

But I need to go around and that to places

Dev2rights

and not sure, would be a question for my business partner he is more clued up on web tech than me tbh

he is out of the office atm

awaiting the arrival of a new graphics tablet

user92578

nice

Dev2rights

yeah it has a screen embeded in it

cant wait to see the resoloution and colour

user92578

sounds awesome

user92578

I've been thinking about getting a "dull" wacom thing

Dev2rights

10:10 AM

yeah, im wondering if you can change the colur profiles to match the screen your designing for though

as otherwise it will never look right

user92578

My two monitors don't have the same colours

Dev2rights

yeah same series iphones dont either

user92578

So on somedays I draw on the other, and sometimes on the other

Dev2rights

ive been reading about applying LUT transformations to the artwork either as post process to the artwork or on the fly

but still screens are so diparitive its somewhat pointless

user92578

I'm not sure if a tablet will however improve my pixel art workflow at all

Dev2rights

10:11 AM

as long as the artwork is all using the same color warmth and tone to match it will look the same uniformly on specific screens

user92578

Oh clock is already that much

user92578

I gotta start getting back to school, one last english class and then it's weekend time!

user92578

see you guys in a couple of hours

user92578

11:27 AM

aaaand Im home

Martin Sojka

11:47 AM

He's home! Quick - hide the vodka!

user92578

lol

user92578

no worries, im not old enough to drink

Kevin van der Velden

That just means you're not legally allowed to drink, not that you physically can't

user92578

Well it kinda means that physically it will destroy me

user92578

But anyways, very true

user92578

11:52 AM

hide the vodka!

Martin Sojka

I'm not sure if there are legal limits to how old you have to be to be allowed to drink alcohol here in Germany ... Maybe something like the "adolescence" limit, 14? There are however limits to "drinking in public" and "buying".

user92578

Oh

Kevin van der Velden

@Tyyppi_77 welll, that's just a case of your body weight being less

Martin Sojka

"Drinking in public" is 16 if with legal guardians and allowed by them, 18 otherwise I think.

user92578

In Finland you're allowed drink "normal" alcohol at the age of 18, and heavy stuff at 21

user92578

11:53 AM

or maybe that's just for buying

Kevin van der Velden

I know the commercials are "Under 16 not a drop" but I don't know if that's the actual law or just what the commercials have to say

Lokkij

Should be 18 now

Kevin van der Velden

Ooh that changed last year apparently

user92578

Hmm, I don't feel safe returning a HWND* from a function

user92578

But that's what I might have to do

user92578

11:58 AM

Oh this is annoying

user92578

I want an utility function for easily getting the HWND from an SDL window

Kevin van der Velden

Wrap it in an opaque type

user92578

But I don't want to include Windows.h in a header

Kevin van der Velden

Hence the opaque type

user92578

What's an opaque type?

user92578

12:01 PM

I create a struct that contains a HWND?

Kevin van der Velden

class WindowHandle;
WindowHandle* GetWindowHandle( SDLWindow* );

user92578

Ah, right

Kevin van der Velden

Nope, you don't say what is in it at all. At least, not to the users of the API. The things that can then take a WindowHandle include another header for the definition of WindowHandle

user92578

Why didn't I think of this

user92578

Thanks

Kevin van der Velden

12:07 PM

Because I've got a few more years of doing this stuff on me? :p

user92578

:D

user92578

Translating these things to other platforms is going to be a bit annoying I think...

user92578

But I don't have to worry about that now

Don't click on my profile

@MartinSojka I live in germany and one can buy beer and several wines and drink them too with 16 years and stronger and high percentage stuff like vodka is okay when you are 18 years old

Kevin van der Velden

@Tyyppi_77 one of the reasons for the opaque types! You would just have to implement the few API functions, not everything that uses it

user92578

12:11 PM

Right, true I guess

user92578

Oh for real

user92578

They suggest that instead of a "simple" 20 line solution people use this (msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/…) for opening filenames

user92578

That if (SUCCEEDED(...)) pattern seems really pleasant

user92578

Also the code box is way too narrow for nesting like that

user92578

Well

user92578

12:18 PM

I suppose that if I do that once properly I won't have to touch WinAPI in a while again

user92578

I suppose I could use something like this: github.com/mlabbe/nativefiledialog

user92578

But then I can't complain about WinAPI

user92578

WTF

user92578

I don't get any of the WinAPI methods even tough I included <Windows.h>

user92578

Okay

user92578

12:25 PM

SDL_syswm can't be included before Windows.h it seems

Kevin van der Velden

Including windows.h breaks so much

user92578

#include <shobjidl.h>

user92578

WTF

user92578

WHO THE FUCK NAMED THAT FILE

user92578

Also, does someone fucking memorize this stuff: HRESULT res = CoCreateInstance(CLSID_FileOpenDialog, nullptr, CLSCTX_INPROC_SERVER, IID_PPV_ARGS(&fileDialog));

user92578

12:31 PM

Oh and don't forget to disable OLE1DDE

user92578

HRESULT res = CoInitializeEx(nullptr, COINIT_APARTMENTTHREADED | COINIT_DISABLE_OLE1DDE);

user92578

are you fucking kidding me

user92578

I gotta reinterpret_cast an object to a void**

Joe

good morning gdse

user92578

hey joe

Joe

12:42 PM

hows it going in here

user92578

enjoying some quality time with WinAPI

Joe

fun fun fun

user92578

Okay that seems to work

Don't click on my profile

12:59 PM

can you guys tell me why this doesn't work as expected? codeshare.io/Z8nqL

user92578

What happens?

user92578

And most importantly, what is supposed to happen

Almo

What tyyppi said

Don't click on my profile

My player is supposed to go to the mouse position

user92578

I appreciate the editing effort Almo :D

Almo

1:02 PM

:D

@Don'tclickonmyprofile what I saw in that code before you edited it was if the player was further from the mouse than 1, it would add its speed to its position.

what you need is to set the speed in such a way that the player moves closer to the mouse.

Don't click on my profile

Thank you for that life session solution. Who ever that spooky ghost coder that was :P

user92578

No problem man, glad I could help :D

user92578

How familiar are you with vector math?

Don't click on my profile

I learned that stuff like 3 years ago lmao

when I was in 11th or 12th grade

user92578

Ah, yeah

Don't click on my profile

1:08 PM

Forgot about all that stuff :D

user92578

So you can understand what I did?

Don't click on my profile

To be honest not yet. I try to figure it out now. #MySlowBrain

user92578

I can explain it to you

user92578

Come to the code :D

Don't click on my profile

ok ^

user92578

1:14 PM

@Don'tclickonmyprofile pygame.org/docs/ref/math.html#pygame.math.Vector2

Don't click on my profile

They already got some of that stuff :D

they even got normalize

user92578

Yeah

user92578

Vector is probably the most used type atleast in my game

Don't click on my profile

Is your game already playable :D?

user92578

Yeah it is, I play it to test all the new things, but it's not in public testing yet

user92578

1:18 PM

Currently I'm working on an in-game level editor

user92578

I dumped Tiled and started making my own

Don't click on my profile

kewl

will it be cross platform?

user92578

That's the goal

user92578

However currently some features might now work on some platforms

user92578

But I think I've written those that the game doesn't crash on other platforms that Windows

Don't click on my profile

1:19 PM

Where do you mainly develop on?

user92578

Windows

user92578

I use SDL for everything, and that's crossplatform

user92578

But there's somethings that SDL can't do for me, so then I gotta use the awful winapi

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I always found it too exhausting to download modules on windows. Ob ubuntu everything is so easy

kek :P

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Hmm I wonder what would be a good way to design the spawn point placing

user92578

1:23 PM

I could do that automatically, as the player(s) always spawn with the parachutes

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Or I could make it a brush tool

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Or I could add trigger tools and make it one

Almo

1:41 PM

holy shit I think I have my layout stuff figured out

wow that was a hassle

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nice

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gratz

Almo

though I THINK I have the rules figured out, so I shouldn't have to worry about it again

I can hope anyway

looks like doing the gradient won't be easy though. In SpriteBuilder, there's a built-in gadget for it. Took me like 5 minutes to implement it.

Stand back! I'm about to open GIMP! (I am not responsible for any profanity you may see in this chat until I close it)

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lol

Almo

"This is a sophisticated tool that may take a bit of effort to understand."

always encouraging.

with regard to the gradient editor.

ok, I'm stumped

I have a gradient, and I want to set the opacity to 0.2 on one side, and 0.85 on the other side

What I don't see is how to set the opacities of the endpoints directly

it seems to want all or nothing

"There is no 'undo' available within the Gradient Editor, so be careful!" Gotta love GIMP.

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