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Pip
Pip
12:26 AM
@TheMuffinCoder only for Android though, it's still standard for vanilla Java
 
TheMuffinCoder
TheMuffinCoder
well yep :P
 
bazola
bazola
12:37 AM
do you guys think i would get sued for using this art? i made the models myself, but they are obviously inspired by another game:
 
Pip
Pip
What are they inspired by?
 
bazola
bazola
the arcologies in simcity 2000
 
Pip
Pip
What are they being used for?
The second one is fine btw
 
bazola
bazola
the goal was kind of to make accurate reproductions as a sort of easter egg, but i think it may be crossing the line, i dunno
 
Pip
Pip
I think it's fine
1 min ago, by Pip
What are they being used for?
 
bazola
bazola
12:42 AM
a game i am making
 
Chris
Chris
Your models look great. Nothing wrong with something being inspired, long as it's not a blatant copy
 
Pip
Pip
Well.... duh. What's their purpose in-game?
Yeah, I definitely agree with Chris
 
bazola
bazola
they are the max level buildings that are the hardest to get
 
Chris
Chris
Those look fine and unique, keep going :)
SC2K's arcologies were fricking expensive lol
 
bazola
bazola
@Chris i appreciate that! :)
in my game, you place low, medium, and high zones, and when they reach a threshold population they change into a random building from that type of zone. when you have a high density zone with a high enough desire level, it will change into an arcology and get bonus taxes and population
 
Chris
Chris
12:46 AM
cool
 
Chris
Chris
12:58 AM
Tried out Unity's occlusion baking, performs well: gfycat.com/WebbedPepperyGrackle
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
1:29 AM
Queue#pop: "Retrieves data from the queue. If the queue is empty, the calling thread is suspended until data is pushed onto the queue."
okay I love ruby now
it's amazing
 
TheMuffinCoder
TheMuffinCoder
 
bazola
bazola
1:52 AM
waffle upgrade?
 
Pip
Pip
@TheMuffinCoder looks pretty good
@IcyDefiance :D
I knew it would happen eventually
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
lol turns out I don't even need that, and I was having an XY problem anyway, but it's still cool
 
Pip
Pip
:D
 
 
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Blue Bug
Blue Bug
3:47 AM
His name is Kaonashi
 
Blue Bug
Blue Bug
4:09 AM
He will sneak into your bed room, then stare at you while you sleep.
 
 
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Jovito
Jovito
5:58 AM
That's what happens, @Pip.
 
Serial
Serial
6:14 AM
@BlueBug Awh its a little No-Face!!
 
Blue Bug
Blue Bug
That's right he indeed has no face!
which is the reason why he wears a mask in the game.
 
Serial
Serial
Hahhaha well he looks just like No-Face from Spirited Away!!
 
Blue Bug
Blue Bug
I really liked the movie and the character as well. I am referencing Sprited Away in my game!
Glad to know that the guy reminds the No-Face from Spirited Away!!! :D
 
Serial
Serial
I love Studio Ghibli movies! all so good
 
Blue Bug
Blue Bug
omg YES! I ma gona reference to whole lot's from their movies
 
Serial
Serial
6:21 AM
Oh that is awesome can't wait to see it!!
 
Blue Bug
Blue Bug
I ma gona have like "bath house" like theme then reference the whole lots of characters from the movie!
 
Jovito
Jovito
Have you guys seen Nausicaä? That one got me teary throughout the whole movie.
 
Blue Bug
Blue Bug
also like "moving castle" like shit, then have some fire ghosts and evils
Nausicaä was not in my time alas.
 
Jovito
Jovito
Studio Ghibli movies are great.
 
Blue Bug
Blue Bug
The movie/animation culture back when I was a kid were very not popular..
 
Jovito
Jovito
6:24 AM
Haven't seen Spirited Away yet tho.
 
Blue Bug
Blue Bug
ok... Spirited Away & Moving Castle are the must watch ani series for age under 20.
I think it's an option if you are over 20.
 
Serial
Serial
The art in those movies is amazing
Howl's Moving Castle is SOOO cool
 
Jovito
Jovito
The first one I watched was Mononoke. After that I heard from a friend that Spirited Away was Miyazaki's greatest movie, and generally, together with Totoro, that's the one people talk about the most. So I decided to wait and first get to know his other movies before going into Spirited Away.
@Serial I watched Howl's Moving Castle just last week. It really is an awesome movie.
 
Blue Bug
Blue Bug
r u seriously trying to watch his films in order? my gosh... You are a hardcore ani-watching-person man. I admire you of the patient and thoughtful approach to the films. I will give virtual 5 starts out of 5.
 
Serial
Serial
I loooove Totoro, wonderful movie as well
 
Blue Bug
Blue Bug
6:32 AM
@Jovito ★★★★★
 
Serial
Serial
Ponyo was a Disney/Ghibli like collab very good as well
 
Jovito
Jovito
That's the next one in my list :)
@BlueBug Not really, I'm picking randomly from his filmography.
 
Blue Bug
Blue Bug
ಠ_ಠ highly elevated admiration subsiding
There are movies and also games that look like truly made with lots of love.
 
Jovito
Jovito
The soundtrack of some of these movies really stuck with me.
 
Blue Bug
Blue Bug
It's meh-ok to me, but probably because I haven't watched the movie yet.
For me, it's this one.
 
Jovito
Jovito
6:38 AM
@BlueBug You have to listen to it for more than just 30 sec.
Reminds me a lot of Chrono Trigger/Cross. I wonder if some of the people making games in Square back in the day were influenced by Studio Ghibli.
The part starting at 3:14 sounds a lot like Handel's Sarabande.
 
snake5
snake5
7:32 AM
 
Blue Bug
Blue Bug
8:04 AM
We are being watched?
 
snake5
snake5
possibly
 
Almo
Almo
 
user92578
8:39 AM
Good morning
 
user92578
@snake5 cool
 
snake5
snake5
@Tyyppi_77 thanks :) going to put it into the game soon
 
user92578
CEntityTruck? CEntityVehicle? I can't decide on the class name for the truck I drew yesterday
 
user92578
I'll go with truck
 
user92578
And if I'll add more vehicles, I'll create a base class for the shared functionality named CEntityVehicle
 
snake5
snake5
8:46 AM
@Tyyppi_77 depends on whether a "truck" has so many distinct features that it differs significantly from a plain "vehicle"
if, for example, carrying characters is something only a truck would do, then it makes sense to call it a truck
 
user92578
Ah, I see
 
user92578
That would be the case, yes :)
 
user92578
Hmmm
 
user92578
I might have to add support for multiple collision boxes per entity
 
snake5
snake5
fun fact: in my previous game with this engine, I used a "sliding door" entity for lever switches :P
 
user92578
8:50 AM
:D
 
user92578
Your custom engine looks awesome
 
user92578
I wish I had a custom one
 
snake5
snake5
@Tyyppi_77 :) thanks
brb, lunch
 
user92578
That's ingame:
 
user92578
 
snake5
snake5
9:27 AM
@Tyyppi_77 truck conqueror
 
Chris
Chris
@Almo oh man that's tempting
okay purchased, let's try this
 
Hjorthenify
Hjorthenify
@Tyyppi_77 make the base class now :P
 
user92578
I purchased a DLC that gives me all the guns & armor & devices & items in Ghost Recon Phantoms
 
user92578
Soooooo... Im playing now!
 
Hjorthenify
Hjorthenify
9:44 AM
Nice :P
Today i learned that greek coffee is terribly bad :/
 
snake5
snake5
@Hjorthenify how so?
 
Hjorthenify
Hjorthenify
10:38 AM
It tastes like Irish Coffee without the effect of alcohol :P
 
Chris
Chris
lol
 
snake5
snake5
@Hjorthenify and what does irish coffee taste like?
 
SpicyWeenie
SpicyWeenie
10:58 AM
Why is the whole world so vague when it comes to ECS (Entity Component System)?
 
snake5
snake5
@SpicyWeenie because it doesn't really mean much more than "let's use fancy OOP for our entities"?
 
SpicyWeenie
SpicyWeenie
I've searched page after page, book after book. They either talk diagrams to death, display badly written code, or make a lazy attempt of doing a combination.
 
snake5
snake5
well, precisely
it's just a thing to ride on for some wannabe-architecture-design programmers to make themselves look important and knowledgeable
 
SpicyWeenie
SpicyWeenie
@snake5 are you saying there is something better?
 
snake5
snake5
obviously the better choice at any situation is to use the code that reaches whatever goals you have without any overhead
 
SpicyWeenie
SpicyWeenie
11:05 AM
........
And how long have you been programming?
O_o
 
snake5
snake5
long enough
 
SpicyWeenie
SpicyWeenie
so a couple years
 
snake5
snake5
10 or so
what did you expect? some kind of super-clever tricks?
 
SpicyWeenie
SpicyWeenie
ok, it sounds like you are beating your own drum. I'll end the convo with that
 
snake5
snake5
the hard thing about programming is to avoid overdesign and all the clever shit that holds you back and generates shitloads of useless code
@SpicyWeenie wat
2
 
SpicyWeenie
SpicyWeenie
11:07 AM
Sounds like your ego is at play is what I'm saying
 
snake5
snake5
in what way, I wonder?
 
Hjorthenify
Hjorthenify
11:20 AM
@spicyweenie gameprogrammingpatterns.com/
@snake5 Like coffee with whisky :P
 
snake5
snake5
@Hjorthenify but not regular coffee, right?
because by what you've told me, that'd make greek coffee regular, which would then make no sense for it to taste worse than regular coffee :P
 
Hjorthenify
Hjorthenify
Regular coffee tastes like Greek coffee if you pour sociology in n it. How does that make Greek coffee regular?
.. Damn phone. Meant alcohol not sociology
 
snake5
snake5
:D
still made some sense, though
anyway, didn't you say that greek coffee tastes like irish coffee without alcohol?
also, regular coffee I think is considered to be one without alcohol
 
Hjorthenify
Hjorthenify
No. It tastes like irish coffee but since there is no alcohol in it, then it has the harsh taste of irish but without any effect
 
snake5
snake5
oh, I understand now
 
Hjorthenify
Hjorthenify
11:32 AM
Have you been having Irish coffee? :P
 
snake5
snake5
unfortunately, no :P
 
Almo
Almo
12:00 PM
@Chris Lemme know what you think after you've had some time with it.
 
Chris
Chris
I played about 30 minutes, few online matches, but yeah it's good silly pick-up-and-play fun :)
 
Almo
Almo
that's how it feels at the start
long term, it just gets better as you learn to play
 
Chris
Chris
stupid and simple, but yeah there's some real strat with positioning
yeah I can see that happening
I love how the ball explodes lol
 
Almo
Almo
and there's this
that's from the precursor game, but the gameplay is about the same (if not exactly the same)
That's one of the devs playing
 
Chris
Chris
nice
it's a crisp-looking game as well which helps
 
Almo
Almo
12:03 PM
yeah, the newer version looks much better
there's an early prototype
they don't even have any scoring or ball explosions yet
but you can tell it's a winner already.
This is one of the few games I've been really excited about in the last 10 years.
that and Rock Band
 
Chris
Chris
cool.
 
Almo
Almo
if anything, that vid is a great lesson for everyone here: get a prototype done. If it's lots of fun, go with it.
 
Chris
Chris
Yeah it's unique, charming, action-packed, I like that
The cosmetics can come at the end
 
Almo
Almo
yup
we see that with your current proto, which looks quite interesting already
 
Chris
Chris
I've been experimenting with combat today, and just gameplay really, trying to decide haha
 
Almo
Almo
12:06 PM
cool :)
well i better go :)
talk later :)
 
Chris
Chris
hehe cya
 
snake5
snake5
@Almo from the prototype it doesn't seem like gameplay was the strong part of the game
seems slow and confusing
those sparks from collisions look good, though
also the camera work
not too many game developers have access to any talent in that department
 
 
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Almo
Almo
1:29 PM
anyone know how I can see a review I wrote on Steam?
I hit "publish" the button just disappears, and I have no other indication if it went out or not
 
Chris
Chris
view your profile and check your Reviews
or if you view the game's store page it should have a link to your review
 
Almo
Almo
I can't find "my reviews" :(
oop there it is
yeah the new one doesn't show up
is there a delay or something?
 
Chris
Chris
yeah it won't show immediately
 
Almo
Almo
ok thanks
 
Joe
Joe
1:55 PM
@Chris sorry man, I fell asleep doing bills last night at 9pm lol
 
Chris
Chris
eh? all good
 
Almo
Almo
hey joe
 
Joe
Joe
morning guys
 
Almo
Almo
can't search Area 51 on SE for "go" (the game) because "one more character"
 
Martin Sojka
Martin Sojka
Not even for the go?
 
Almo
Almo
2:08 PM
I was looking for a site proposal for that game
Area 51 doesn't allow searching site proposals for things with 2 chars
 
Martin Sojka
Martin Sojka
Well, at least you aren't looking for a proposal for R language users, I guess.
 
Almo
Almo
hahah yeah
 
Martin Sojka
Martin Sojka
Why is there a minimum search length limit, anyway?
 
Almo
Almo
that's a good question
not like there's a fuckton of text to search through there
 
snake5
snake5
@MartinSojka so that search wouldn't have to return 1/3 of the database
it's just a simple method of preventing that, since such searches usually make little sense anyway
here it would make some sense, though, perhaps to make short queries match full words, not parts of words
excluding the rather common "a", "is" and such
 
Martin Sojka
Martin Sojka
2:24 PM
@snake5 Stupid Latin alphabet. Thanks, Obama Gaius Iulius Caesar!
 
snake5
snake5
would you prefer chinese?
 
Martin Sojka
Martin Sojka
Would be ok, but I really like Hangul.
 
Almo
Almo
who you talkin' to?
uh... oh yeah. :)
 
Martin Sojka
Martin Sojka
Speaking of Chinese, a search for "围棋" also returns "1 more character ...", despite that making exactly zero sense for the script used.
 
Almo
Almo
hahahah
My game available on Google Play.
 
snake5
snake5
2:28 PM
@MartinSojka quite so, some words are even one character long, iirc
 
Almo
Almo
the guy who did that version says it's available worldwide now
 
Martin Sojka
Martin Sojka
@Almo Well, grats. :)
 
Joe
Joe
xplat user interaction? or are they segregated
 
Almo
Almo
@MartinSojka thanks ;)
now to get some people playing it... it's a critical mass thing. it's not fun if people aren't playing. :)
Steven Tyler does country:
 
Joe
Joe
@MartinSojka 2 byte languages are a bitch...
 
Almo
Almo
2:38 PM
string encoding is a bitch no matter what >:(
 
snake5
snake5
utf8/utf32(/utf24?) encoding isn't
 
Almo
Almo
sounds decent, but that's some super-fake posing in the vid
 
Pip
Pip
Eyo
@Almo congrats!
 
Almo
Almo
thansk
 
Pip
Pip
@Jovito What's what happens? I'm totally missing context here
@Almo np. You hoping to make some money?
 
Almo
Almo
2:42 PM
would be nice, but it really depends on getting people to play
 
Pip
Pip
cool
GOLD
 
Almo
Almo
there are people out there who will play: it's just making them aware the game exists.
 
Joe
Joe
DUDE
you can trigger install on your phone, from your desktop browser
thats crazy
 
Almo
Almo
yeah that's like judge Jackson in the MS case back in 2000.
he was really on top of shit
 
Pip
Pip
cool
 
Almo
Almo
2:45 PM
his "finding of fact" reads as a business horror story
I read most of it... it's one reason I dislike Microsoft so much
here's some noise for you guys
 
Joe
Joe
@Almo looks good man got a typo in your rules explanation though, page after you list bob alice charlie
 
Almo
Almo
send me a mail with a screen shot almo2001@yahoo.com
I'll forward it to the dev.
 
Joe
Joe
can do
 
Almo
Almo
thanks for looking :)
 
Joe
Joe
np man everything works so im just nit picking haha
 
Almo
Almo
2:57 PM
hey, that makes the thing better
I totally don't mind.
 
Joe
Joe
sent
 
Almo
Almo
thanks
 
Joe
Joe
np one day youll crit one of mine... in the year 2026... :D
 
Almo
Almo
heheh :)
 
Joe
Joe
working on something sort of interesting for unity right now... got a Travis project cloning my github, downloading unity editor CLI and almost building my project
 
Pip
Pip
3:06 PM
cool
 
Almo
Almo
@Joe what's this do?
 
Joe
Joe
Continuous integration, spins up a virtual mahcine on github commit
will run my tests
 
Almo
Almo
neat
 
Joe
Joe
and build my game for whatever device if my tests pass
 
user92578
really cool
 
Joe
Joe
3:06 PM
PROBLEM IS
every VM is blank... so its gotta download and install unity each commit
 
Almo
Almo
oh shit
 
Joe
Joe
so far its taking an hour A LONG ASS TIME.... not good enough
 
Almo
Almo
can you set up a VM with unity installed and clone that?
 
Joe
Joe
going to need to try something like that
Travis doesnt work like that i dont think
ill need to setup Jenkins (maybe) on my own VPS
haha
VM crashed on timeout
 
Almo
Almo
cute
 
Joe
Joe
3:11 PM
if I can get it to work... sure hah
travis is nice though shows a live view of the current CLI from the vm
should fire again in a second, trying something new
 
Almo
Almo
some motherfucker comes by our building and rips our flowers up.
 
Chris
Chris
:(
 
Joe
Joe
go hit him with a stick
 
Almo
Almo
I won't say what I think should happen to people who do random useless destruction like that for fear the NSA will show up
seriously angry about it
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
18 minutes of gameplay in no man's sky: youtube.com/watch?t=200&v=CLcjvIQJns0
and I'm convinced. I want this game badly.
 
Almo
Almo
3:22 PM
does it look like fun?
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
it looks amazing
 
Almo
Almo
So weird they made... Joe Danger.
JD is a good game and all... but its scope is nothing like NMS
that's PS4?
 
Lokkij
Lokkij
> So all of this is just math, right? Underneath?
 
Almo
Almo
man my steam review not showin up
 
Lokkij
Lokkij
He sounds so amazed.
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
3:30 PM
layman's version of "procedurally generated"
it is amazing though. not just the procedural generation, but the detail and scale of it all, and how it's an mmorpg, even though you won't see many other players just because it's so damn massive
 
Lokkij
Lokkij
It sounds amazing.
 
Almo
Almo
looks interesting
 
Lokkij
Lokkij
I really, really hope it'll be as good as it sounds.
 
Almo
Almo
But I have so much other stuff to play... Amplitude soon, Rocket League, Rock Band 4, LoL, EVE
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
my only worry is the "elite dangerous" thing where the concepts are all really cool but there's just nothing to do
 
Almo
Almo
3:32 PM
hahah
:)
 
Joe
Joe
3:57 PM
I think i could be happy while bored playing that game
2
 
OMGtechy
OMGtechy
@IcyDefiance yeah, that has been my biggest concern with it. It's like a great tech demo so far, but they're not revealing any more than that.
@SpicyWeenie why the hostility?
 
Icy Defiance
Icy Defiance
but they did mention there's an economy, and details like drones coming after you if you kill wildlife, some pirates appeared in what looked like a random event, things like that. those details are what convinced me. as long as the game isn't completely broken on launch day I'll probably buy it.
 
Almo
Almo
@OMGtechy probably because Snake is being difficult as usual
 
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