Game Development

Pip

12:49 AM

back

@TheMuffinCoder ir looks fine

Joe

1:02 AM

seems good to me man

Joe

1:47 AM

are there any obvious downfalls to performing all of my game within one scene Unity and just swapping out the "fixtures" around the player

Almo

2:24 AM

@Joe when you load the scene, it will load all of the fixtures, unless they are generated dynamically

items that are not "enabled" still get loaded

@IcyDefiance you here?

Icy Defiance

kind of

league time?

Almo

if you want

Icy Defiance

sure

today I decided to start working on my league statistics website again...only to realize I hadn't pushed it to github before reformatting my computer XD

Almo

oh shit!

Joe

3:04 AM

@Almo thanks! yea I guess what I am talking about is creating and destroying things within one scene... as opposed to setting up pre built scenes and formally "loading" them

to me it seems like its all the same but idk if there are memory leak concerns or what

Almo

3:28 AM

@Joe be very careful about memory

C# makes you think you have good garbage collection, and you don't really

Unity always finds some way to fuck it up

Icy Defiance

dunno about unity, but for C# in general you'll pretty much only get memory leaks when you don't unsubscribe from events properly

that, or if you use an IDisposable class and don't dispose it

unity probably introduces a hundred new ways to screw things up, though. it's nice like that.

Joe

so should I just stick to loading scenes the old fashioned way

n scene files

Almo

You get mem leaks in unity often from textures and other assets

really have to be careful

Joe

im trying to iron out loading "level" data for my tilemap from json

come a long way and considering the possibility of just 1 scene used to swap out the level info... thats all just thinking out loud

Icy Defiance

3:45 AM

lol Almo, I just checked the replay of our league match to see when morg flashed over your ult. that was actually pretty incredible. can't tell if she was anticipating your arrow, or if she was going to flash+ult anyway and just went over the arrow by pure luck...

Almo

4:02 AM

either way, it looked miraculous :(

Icy Defiance

it was. the arrow was like 20px from hitting her.

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Joe

2:49 PM

holy chatbot spam batman

good morning GDSE

Almo

hey

Joe

hows it going dude

Almo

ok

my monitors are now too low

need to get some books or something to put them on

Joe

you had a growth spurt over the weekend? :D

Almo

hahah no I had my desk lowered at work

we

moved, and the new desk is too high

I mean at work we ended up with new desks

Joe

3:02 PM

ahh gotcha

I've been itching for a standing desk... but I dont think they will spring for one

Almo

heheh

Joe

they make monistor shelves? or you can just pump down that office chair pneumatic to the floor

Almo

Clint Hocking had one of those just before he left Ubi

Joe

i feel like sitting for 15 hours a day is going to kill me

Almo

@Joe hehehe

Jon

3:05 PM

studies show that it will

Joe

all I do is sit anymore

Jon

self-atrophy

Joe

I used to valet cars at a hotel to pay bills at college

I can feel how much ~~less powerful~~ worse off my calves are, I used to run ALL day

Jon

maybe you should become a gerbil and go to the gym

Joe

i've never been to a gym in my life... seems ridiculous to me, but your probably right

Jon

3:08 PM

turn into one of those intense gym people

SpartanDonut

Protein chug

Jon

where everyone you meet disgusts you and you need to try to convert them into going to the gym and eating right

basically a gym jehova

Joe

that is an accurate term

coin that right now and make tshirts you will be rich

Jon

vegan jehova

the first rule to becoming a vegan, is to always talk about being a vegan

3

Joe

i like the alliteration of Gym Jehova

I guess j - G doesnt matter same sound... english I fail @ you

Jon

3:13 PM

My Emperor I've Failed You!

►

Almo

@Jon how true and fucking annoying

Pip

Eyo

I'm hooked on music in Spanish for some reason :P

@William'MindWorX'Mariager noice!

@William'MindWorX'Mariager FLUIDS

I'm impressed :D

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

:D

Fluids indeed :D

I'm impressed as well. It actually performs nicely. It's O(1) compared to O(n) for other implementations. The only problem is that each operation is slower with mine. So it's sort of a trade. I can have as many particles as I want, but even empty scenes will have get calculated.

Pip

3:28 PM

Still cool

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Aye

Pip

Hahaha I'm sitting at the Dota loading screen waiting for a friend and "Dota" by Basshunter started playing on Spotify

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Probably won't do much with it besides upload it to Github. It was mostly just a challenge to myself. Get into the parallel thinking. :P

Pip

It looks cool, good job. :D

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

It all works purely by knowing the previous state of the 8 neighboring pixels. I guess it's very scalable.

I wonder how well it'd perform if I threw it at my CUDA cores.

Pip

3:31 PM

What are those?

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Something NVidia cars have.

Lots and lots of processing power. My GPU has like 1k+ CUDA cores.

They're made for general programming, not just graphical.

Pip

Oh, cool

Almo

@Pip Spanish is a great language for rap

lots of hard consonants

Pip

mhm

Almo

I find french rap sounds odd

Pip

3:36 PM

I was just listening to "Vamos a la Playa"

Not rap, but was pretty good

Almo

from Los Lobos?

Pip

from Loona

Whoa video is a bit odd :P

. youtube.com/watch?v=X-77txuiVXs

Almo

ok

Veritas

Not my cup of tea :p

Almo

Eric B. & Rakim - Juice (Know The Ledge)

►

Pip

3:41 PM

Lyrics are stupid, sounds good though

Almo

from the movie Juice

which I thought was a good movie

Almo

3:58 PM

I like it when a band that makes some great music manages to knock a few out of the park again 30 years later.

THE FIXX - Beautiful Friction

►

and this one, accompanied by some dumb video about a fish

"Just Before Dawn" - A Betta Adoption Video

►

SpartanDonut

@Almo I spent a little too long trying to figure out the roman numerals there... xD

Almo

hahah :)

Joe

4:55 PM

"Amnesia Fortnight" During the development of Brütal Legend, a publishing issue arose... Tim Schafer (Double Fine Productions Founder) attempted to boost the company's morale by engaging the team in an "Amnesia Fortnight". For a two-week period, the employees were split into four groups, told to forget their current work on Brütal Legend (hence the "Amnesia"), and tasked to develop a game prototype for review by the other groups.

awesome... they do one every year

Almo

that's a neat idea

shame BL was such a boring game. It was fucking funny as hell.

"And we'll call it Ironheade. With an 'e' so they know we're not fuckin' around."

Joe

looks like a majority of their small game ideas stem from prototypes from the Fortnight

Lokkij

Aww yeah spoilers have started.

Almo

spoilers for what

Not clickin that link

Lokkij

Magic the Gathering

:P

Veritas

5:09 PM

Am I the only one who is struggling to come up with a detailed story for games?

Joe

I struggle with everything else

SpartanDonut

Unreal Engine is now free!

12

So....

Time to learn unreal

Joe

30 bucks cheaper

damn

SpartanDonut

Well considering there isn't a free vs pro license that's pretty good

Full engine source for 5% royalties

Joe

ooo nice

sucks im hesistant to try it.... i might like it

Lokkij

5:16 PM

They seriously improved their website too

Pip

5:42 PM

@SpartanDonut what the faq

I have a license through Github

oh well, worthless now :P

Cool Gamesutra article on UE4

Almo

@Veritas i don't design games that need story so it's not an issue for me :)

fuk yeah

really smart

Pip

yeah, it is

It's annoying that I need the Android SDK for Xamarin Studio

At least I can install it on my HDD vs my SSD

Hahahaha

Game Informer says this:

> Epic’s making a smart play here. With more publishers opting for in-house engines, giving people incentive to explore Unreal Engine 4 is smart in the long run. The more great games that are made on the engine, the better Epic looks.

This is near-term investment that has potential to reap big long-term rewards. It also means that Epic, which already does a good job of promoting UE4-based projects, gets another opportunity to tie its name to success.

Also, can someone pin this?

Epic Games offers up $5 million in Unreal Dev Grants

2

why you no onebox?

there we go

SpartanDonut

@Pip was starred previously

had 8 stars

Pip

ah, kk

Didn't see it

SpartanDonut

I don't see a need to pin. People saw it

Pip

5:54 PM

meant star, whoops

SpartanDonut

ah

MLM

. chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/19?m=20167093#20167093

SpartanDonut

So I wonder what sort of pressure that might apply to Unity (if any) regarding it's licensing model

MLM

How did that message get one more star? Room-owner privilege?

SpartanDonut

The option to star it is in the drop down menu for the message

I starred it seeing if it would jump to the top (or at least be visible from chat) but it didn't

MLM

6:00 PM

Ahh, thanks! I believed once it was in the transcript only you couldn't

OMGtechy

@SpartanDonut nice!

Pip

@OMGtechy hey bro

Just got my SSD installed yesterday

massive upgrade

OMGtechy

Hey man

Awesome :D did you put the OS on it?

Joe

hmm 5% past $3k / quarter seems pretty good actually

SpartanDonut

That means you'll only loose 35% of your revenue overall!

It's a little unbelievable how much money those market places make

Compared to a physical store

Well to be fair I don't know... but I doubt Walmart makes $20 on $60 games

lose*

Joe

6:19 PM

steam = 30%?

SpartanDonut

I don't know if anyone has ever released steam numbers

OMGtechy

I don't think they're allowed to

SpartanDonut

but the mobile marketplaces are 30% all around I believe

Joe

so wait how does unity work?

monetarily

OMGtechy

@Joe flat fee

SpartanDonut

6:20 PM

Unity has a Pro license

Joe

pro = you buy it and you dont kick back?

SpartanDonut

> Yes you can create and sell a game with the free version of Unity, without paying royalties or any revenue share. However, Unity Free, which includes the free platform add-on products, may not be licensed or used by a commercial entity with annual gross revenues (based on prior fiscal year) in excess of US$100,000, or by an educational, academic, non-profit or government entity with a total annual budget for the entire entity (based on prior fiscal year) in excess of US$100,000.

OMGtechy

^

SpartanDonut

> No, Unity does not charge on a per title basis and you do not pay royalties or pay revenue share, even for games and applications made with the free version.

Joe

googles the difference between royalties and revenue share

OMGtechy

6:24 PM

I like Unreals approach to the whole linux editor fiasco; "Ok, if you want it that bad, you do it" xD

Rather than the Unity "no"

Lasse

3

OMGtechy

ahaha

I think it'll be Unity 5 release or release date

If they went open source I'd be like WHA

but glad about it

I bet Unreal timed it just right for that

Pip

@OMGtechy yep, have Win8.1 on it atm :D

OMGtechy

awesome, size? did you move your pagefile and hibernate file off?

Pip

It's 128 GB

I haven't put any Linux stuff on it atm, was doing school stuff and needed to use some Windows-only stuff

OMGtechy

6:31 PM

You'll deffo want to move them off then

Pip

Yeah

OMGtechy

Mine filled up with just Windows 8.1

and I had moved the pagefile and hibernate file off

D:

Pip

how do I do that, btw?

Nvm, tomshardware.com/forum/283366-32-move-pagfile-hibernate

OMGtechy

ok

Pip

:D

OMGtechy

6:33 PM

@Lasse what editor?

Lasse

@OMGtechy scene / game object / etc editor

OMGtechy

what for though? Your own engine?

Pip

It doesn't seem that I can move the hibernate file

technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/…

Lasse

yeah

Pip

I can probs just disable hibernation though

OMGtechy

6:34 PM

@Pip I personally get rid of it entirely

@Lasse what specifically are you having a problem with? :)

Pip

Yeah, I think I will

Lasse

@OMGtechy I don't have enough time at my hands, I need help to get this open source project good enough for publishing it

OMGtechy

@Lasse well if you add me I'll take a look if nothing else?

Lasse

okay

OMGtechy

@Pip can you remove me from RadiantVoid btw, I have no interest in it anymore

Mainly because I don't want to use HipChat

you can keep the object pool and use it as you please

Pip

6:37 PM

:D

Lasse

@OMGtechy I need to know your user name in bitbucket

OMGtechy

@Lasse take a guess ;D

Lasse

lol

Pip

Avast is constantly using like 20-40% of my CPU :/

God damnit why

Joe

@OMGtechy "catlover1337" ?

OMGtechy

6:38 PM

@Joe HOW DID YOU KNOW

@Pip probably filling its cache

Joe

it cant be! thats my username mwuahaha trick

OMGtechy

:O

Pip

OMFG WHY AVAST

SpartanDonut

@Pip did it start when you moved your page file?

OMGtechy

^

Pip

6:39 PM

I haven't moved it yet

I just installed Xamarin Studio and it's scanning every single file. Such CPU usage

SpartanDonut

Then turn off active scan or whatever its called

Pip

It's scanning avery GTK+ dll, everything from Mono, the Android SDK, the JDK

hm, I'll look

Lasse

@OMGtechy I sent you a message

SpartanDonut

It's making sure every single file doesn't contain a virus. It's how these things work

Pip

Yeah, it's using a ton of CPU though

It's supposed to be a background thing :P

Almo

6:40 PM

quinquagintillion

If you say so

I do say so!

shush you

WITH EMPHASIS

:D

6:41 PM

@Lasse I got access (no message though?). First thing I'd say is to fill some basic info out in the Wiki. For example, supported platforms

Lasse

@OMGtechy I sent it through bitbucket, I guess it'll arrive some day

SpartanDonut

Thursday

OMGtechy

I didn't even know you could get messages through bitbucket

Pip

Alright, seriously. I'm actually considering disabling the real-time scan. It's using a ton of CPU and actually froze most of the other processes for about 15s

SpartanDonut

It's like you don't even listen

Pip

6:43 PM

I listened, sh you

OMGtechy

@Pip let it fill its cache

@iKlsR ello :D

Pip

Yeah, hope it does that soon :/

hey @iKlsR

OMGtechy