Game Development - 2014-12-18 (page 1 of 3)

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12:04 AM

:D

Working on Sci-Fair project right now

It's gotten enough separate classes in it that I've separated it into a few namespaces :P

ooo it must be good then ;) ahaha

not really yet

I'm going deep enough into it to even get into the nitrogen cycle and phosphorus cycle and stuff

My project is "Simulating the Minimum Sustainable Environment"

or.... something like that

It needs to be 50 chars. or less

whooo! it's 46 including spaces

awesome, perfect

bbl, dinner time

It worries me when I see languages that appear esoteric that aren't supposed to be

catpad.net/michael/apl

12:20 AM

argh

Who the hell came up with this for perl

> $[ — change your array base from 0-based to 1-based to 42-based

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

"Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo" is a grammatical sentence in American English, used as an example of how homonyms and homophones can be used to create complicated linguistic constructs. It has been discussed in literature, in various forms, since 1967 when it appeared in Dmitri Borgmann's Beyond Language: Adventures in Word and Thought. The sentence uses three distinct meanings of the word buffalo: the city of Buffalo, New York; the somewhat uncommon verb to buffalo, meaning "to bully or intimidate"; and the American buffalo (a species of bison). Paraphrased, the...

# Oh wow, just look at this python code that works as you'd want it to:
x = 5
2 < x < 10 # returns true!!!!!!

see, right there

that and set operators

I want those in C#

Wanna know a WTF thing I encountered in python at work today?

it's not really a snake?

only the monty kind

hang out gotta check if I got it right...

nope!

I'll get it hang on...

Ok I took a better written example aha

def append_to(element, to=[]):
    to.append(element)
    return to

so what do you think calling append_to(2) will do?

@Pip you might like this one

12:58 AM

The Compiler Language With No Pronounceable Acronym, abbreviated INTERCAL, is an esoteric programming language that was created as a parody by Don Woods and James M. Lyon, two Princeton University students, in 1972. It satirizes aspects of the various programming languages at the time, as well as the proliferation of proposed language constructs and notations in the 1960s. There are two currently maintained versions of INTERCAL: C-INTERCAL, formerly maintained by Eric S. Raymond, and CLC-INTERCAL, maintained by Claudio Calvelli. == History == According to the original manual by the authors, The...

lol

99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-lolcode-2879.html

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that's my LOLCODE version of 99 bottles of beer

GTFO to end a function rules

LOL

that is amazing

1:13 AM

:)

the function has the funniest stuff in it

with ORLY, YA RLY, WTF and OIC in the switch construct

feel free to vote me up :)

@Jon how do viewports work?

:)

mine is easily the best LOLCODE program there; there are 3 I think

here's a little feature LoL just added to their client: a sound effect when it finishes patching

very smart

cool

@IcyDefiance i'll play a game of HotS then come out for LoL :)

occurrs to me have a mac with a DSI keyboard, Razer mouse, and a Dell monitor.

1:45 AM

whoo I got Monogame stuff building and working well on Windows

@Pip Nice

@Jon you don't happen to have a good collision detection tutorial around, do you?

:D

uh oh

the razer updater seems stuck at 50%

@IcyDefiance gotta restart brb

love ssd

I need to buy one

attackinghobo is forcing me to

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@Almo Yeah. SSDs are the fucking shit

1:54 AM

:)

2

Hey computer do this. now. thanks.

and while you are doing that for 4 seconds also do this other thing at the same time. Thanks

SSDs don't give a shit

Refusing to use an ssd now is like using a pentium 3 in 2010

2:11 AM

you can still use a pentium 3 now if you have an ssd

you wont even notice

I will

alright, night all

parents :/

3:18 AM

... hmm more objects in the pool than i started with

sounds like i broke it

3:47 AM

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4:13 AM

@IcyDefiance doiiiiiit

wat?

oh

delayed reaction

gotta ping me bro. I missed that earlier

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5:56 AM

@Joe you around?

yea whtas up

I've got an idea for multiplayer for Rad stacking

oo?

turn based

but fast

every other block place you take turns.

so p1 p2 p1 p2 p1 p2

only one game board

whoever misses loses

hmm

screw your opponent dot game

5:58 AM

if he makes it your screwed then!

and if you try too hard you might biff and lose!

hahahahahah

sounds like it could work

two players one button

one of those you need a prototype to play

p1 and p2 both spacebar

lol

without doing networking you can prototype it with basic AI

5:59 AM

hmmmm

yeah........

or even better left control right control

yeah

test it locally

for LAN games

:D

more than 2

and by basic AI i mean... pure randomness

6:00 AM

Hahhahahha

I could support a ton of players

Maybe support 10 players

hmmmmm

Nice ad: youtu.be/lRJSoYyhQuM

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@Joe @AidanMueller

howd it go?

dont have a person to play with right now

didn't want to do ai just yet

but colors seemed doable

lol

Nice color variations.

But that dark background looks.

Well.

Hmm.

Retro; but everything else looks non-retro.

6:16 AM

You dissing my background?

Yup! :D

It's not bad.

It's just not good.

I suppose it's a little too green and dark.

Dark can be depressing.

@AttackingHobo I just had a great idea for the floor. What if the floor looked like it was made of blocks (like the ones that you stack).

Maybe in a brick pattern.

Hmmmm idk

They would have to be a darker value though.

To give contrast.

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Cool. Might be a bit intense though.

6:21 AM

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gfycat.com/UnpleasantRaggedDromaeosaur

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@Joe @AidanMueller

lol i actualy love it

putting up an updated web build in a moment

then passing the F out

got all my "scenes" linked up

nice

@Joe I got a better gif coming up

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gfycat.com/WiltedWatchfulBaldeagle#

@Joe

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6:43 AM

nice!

retiredpirate.com/SonOfABit

higher res:

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@Joe ill check it out

nothing ground breaking alot of foundation work for game logic is now done

with all this in place i can actually start building levels tommorow

soo im going to plan out a roguelike experience shoot for 10 levels and see how it goes then close this out

and get rid of that waves mode

ok 2 am bed for real gnite all!

@Joe Its taking shape. make the player weaker too easy

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8:33 AM

@AttackingHobo hahaha this is great

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10:25 AM

Hi. I've some naming convention problem in my engine (C++). Along with typical 3D objects (characters, objects, terrain) I have some rather abstract objects like: range of view, game level area borders, camera range etc. In game, they are not visualized in any form. But sometimes, especially during the development phase I want to see the range of view of specific character or the borders of selected area. How to call the methods that show and hide such abstract things?

For typical 3D objects I have (of course):

model->show();
model->hide();

But it's somehow misleading to use show() and hide() on structures that are not renderable from definition. I was thinking about showVisualization() and hideVisualization() but those are long names (and I know that some may find it a bit hard to tell if there should be s or z in visuali**Z**ation).

The other option for me was to use showHelpers(), but helpers already have very special and important meaning in my engine.

11:10 AM

@PolGraphic Issues like this, are really non-issues.

I don't see anything wrong with ShowVisualization

Its like a parent, stuck on what to name their kids.

Pick something and go with it :)

@jq I partly agree. But from my experience, badly named method = misleading method = bad code (not usable after year or two).

I guess there's no such problem with kids :P unless everybody would call their son "Alice" - that would be misleading ;)

but maybe showVisualisation / showDebugShape are indeed not so bad, hm - which one of that two would you pick for your son? ;P

ShowVisualization* ;)

ShowDebugShape is more descriptive I guess.

Its good to consider the best option for naming, but it is also not useful to ponder too long about it

I see. One more thing to add: I would like all the objects that can be visualized/have debug shape (but are abstract from nature) to inherit from common interface. with showVisualization() it would be Visualizable (Java analogies)

but for showDebugShape? ;) sorry for bothering about it, it's really a last one for now ;p

I typically add an I in front of interface class names...

I'd call it something like IDebuggable

ok, thanks for the chat, it gave me a fresh look on my 'problem' ;)

11:26 AM

no problem

12:03 PM

Hey

Kevin van der Velden

Hey

12:25 PM

hey is for horses

Kevin van der Velden

12:39 PM

That's hay

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

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Kevin van der Velden

Yes

1:14 PM

so my horses are dead because of me? ugh..

Kevin van der Velden

Yes, it is clearly all your fault, those poor horses :(

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2:29 PM

Hey guys can you help me out with matrices?

I have this formula for camera view matrix: view matrix = inverse (rotationZ * rotationX * rotationY * translation)

My question: is the order by which rotational matrices multiplied is really that important? I.e., can I multiply rotX * rotY * rotZ and receive a same result?

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@Jon oh lol, didn't knew that, thanks)

Kevin van der Velden

@Jon Though that doesn't necessarily mean that certain ones can't be order independent, probably

2:58 PM

3:14 PM

@Jon whats happening here......

they released a new kind of internet, that is on a cd rom.. so it is secure

you can't get mail worms

but doesnt the lazer hurt the cd rom... i imagine it would

now I must learn matrices and math again...

because some how i didnt know this...

you ever take a matrix math class ?

@Jon nah never

3:35 PM

I dont think ive ever had a use or seen one used either

else id have googled it already

I took matrix math

good fun

Hamming Codes are magic

what do you do with matrices

you can package a rotation and translation into one matrix multiplication, so you mess with that in OpenGL

Hamming codes do error correcting with matrices

like you can send 24 bits of data with 32 bits, and if up to 3 bits get flipped, this thing will put them back

very fucking cool

im going to have to do some research

1 min ago, by Almo

you can package a rotation and translation into one matrix multiplication, so you mess with that in OpenGL

seems cool

yeah

4:27 PM

quiet in here past few days

everyone on vacation already?

your mom

D:

yea my moms on vacation already!... damn burn

not yet

i'll be on vacation monday to jan 1

Guys, if I want to display a single model in a application view, what matrices do i need for that model? Or i can use global (camera) world and view matrices?

But seriously I've got Wed - Fri off the next couple weeks

4:36 PM

damn nice

sweeeeeet

Some of it's unpaid

best part about hipchat : hipchat.com/emoticons

I wouldn't be productive anyway so I couldn't honestly not take off :P

Was thinking of using 3 of my vacation days to have 9 contiguous days to build things.

4:38 PM

I blew all my vacation in april xD

i am in a weird spot, new company has a really progressive PTO policy... but I'm the newest guy here and I feel bad taking advantage of it.

^ - The trap

user4704

Just do it.

Our policy is terrible. I'm torn between using my vacation to actually relax - or to use it to build things.

user4704

What is "progressive" about it?

4:42 PM

unlimited PTO

take the time off you feel you need to get a real break

that's what the policy is there for

^

super high energy workplace, pretty competitive

agree

user4704

Ah, yes, unlimited PTO policies tend to create those sorts of problems.

but now theres no "police" and I find myself asking... do I really need the day

4:43 PM

I wish I had unlimited time off. We get 2 weeks - 3 after 5 years.

well i came from 4 days last year lol

i get 4 weeks off a year

one of my coworkers just took a month

I had 3 before, but when I became a billable employee I lost a week. The policy for billable people is terrible.

Also - as we do services - a lot of people never end up using their time. One guy had 80 hours banked when he quit.

this new job seems to also have a lot of OT/crunch time

which can == to more vacation

4:45 PM

i'm at 3 weeks off soon to be 4, plus christmas

and if i'm here 4 years, I get one 4-week vacation as a bonus in addition

cool.. i just got my 4 weeks last year

Thats true... I just feel it would benefit me long term to be around and in the office as much as possible tihs first 6 months

limiting the amount of time off you give someone, makes them less productive when they are not working

they will want to do things that are more enjoyable instead, since their time is so damn limited

true

should be 5 hour work days.. or 4 day work weeks

4:47 PM

lol thats a whole other thing but im most productive right in the first 4 hours of the morning, before all the bs meetings happen... as I would think most people might be

hell, with all the automation going on, doesn't makes sense that it isn't yet

my meetings are are actually pretty productive

well, the ones with just the programmers in them

the higher level overview stuff bores me lol

thers a time and place for everything

@Noctrine this is my current policy

I'll get my 3 weeks / 5 years in not this february but the following february

I'm considering trying to haggle for getting it a year early

Sony estimates it will cost 170 million dollars to clean up the hacker mess over The Interview??? WTF?

also..

The company estimated in May 2011 that it may spend $170 million to clean up after the hacking of its PlayStation Network for playing games.

170 million??? what the hell are they doing at sony?

Someone hacks into system --- BUY ALL NEW HARDWARE AND BUILDINGS!!!!!

I would be all over an unlimited PTO system. We have a billable hour annual goal so I would be more than willing to work long hours if I could make up for it by taking days off

4:54 PM

LOL. when I worked in the server farm, I had racked up so much overtime they forced me to use it

use it or cash some out.. because I could of left for 2 months

Right now it's more like get my 40 in for the week and call it good

I used to double my salary

with OT

jeeez

production support

always on call, always on duty :)

It's kind of sad... the perks / benefits my company offers are pretty bad to non existent but I like the job itself so I stay

4:55 PM

i used to double my hours worked per week without ~~salary~~ OT on threats of otherwise being fired

people called me the overtime whore

@Joe the first time that happens to me I will put my two weeks in

i told them sleep was for babies

absolutely do

i burn out really fast under OT conditions

4:58 PM

The trick is to not worry

when working hard OT for 3 weeks on My Word Coach (like up till 2, weekends etc)

lol

they gave us some time off, when I came back, the producer said you still look bad go home

and gave me another couple days

I used to work from 7-3pm, go home and sleep till 11pm, get up and go do patchwork all night , from midnight to 7am.. then work again from 7-3

did this twice a month, because we needed to patch servers over night

The bigger issue is my wife when it comes to overtime

5:00 PM

PLUS, I carried a pager around, so i got called randomly at all hours of the night

just buy her jewelry with the OT money

problem solved.

@Jon said dating himself to a particular era where payphones were still a thing

well when I say OT I mean extra time I've "volunteered" for free

Because murica

@Joe I wanted to make an app that shows you the location of the nearest pay phone

Just so that people could say, well now that is a really stupid app.

all the drug dealers will use it!

because of HBO & the wire

yeah man.. why else would you need a payphone if you have a cell phone.

5:04 PM

@Jon amazing

@SpartanDonut that's a really tough spot man, I was there

For me the tough spot is my reluctance to change and desire to not screw over my employer

Thankfully I work with two technologies that are in huge demand

So options are there

I just need to make the decision to call it quits if such circumstances arose

I don't mind a few days here or there

But I couldn't do it for extended periods of time

I did two years in similar circumstances and ended up doing myself a disservice, just burnt myself out thinking it would pay off

ended up leaving and would have loved to have a higher number in the last jobs salary column before going to new place for negotiations

I'm finally at the pay grade / title I feel I deserve so without proper incentives in place by the company (though I did have one unofficial "feel free to comp your extra time this week") I wouldn't bank on burning myself out helping me in any way

I mean I wasnt doing it intentionally it was essentially mandatory

and I was led to believe great things were in store for those who work the hardest lol

imaginary carrot

5:12 PM

Right

I knew what you meant

My point is I would find someplace else very quickly because I don't see imaginary carrots :P

As opposed to your choice to stay

haha smarter man than I

To be completely fair, I'm in a good spot right now where that is a very easy decision for me. I don't know if I would say the same 3 years ago

cool man good, just dont Stockholm syndrome out... it creeps up on ya lol and there are no shortage of jobs especially for your Sharepoint from what i understand

Stockholm syndrome is what would drive me to put in 2 weeks as opposed to quitting on the spot :P

haha

5:18 PM

But yeah between SharePoint and Dynamics CRM I'm pretty well set

every job I've given notice has offered me a raise... just saying put in the 2 weeks do it right and youd be suprised

I got a really big raise that way already with my current company :P

Kind of

then you take the raise... THEN quit and at the next place say well my last job was paying me THIS

I told them I was offered another position, I have no qualms with my current job but it's all about the money.

well done just gotta be careful

5:21 PM

Yeah I don't think I can do that again :P

i saw someone do that and get insta fired

ceo was super pissed he was "shopping"

and Im not even sure the "offer" was legit

Well I had another job I was seriously considering so... whatever :)

Yeah if you do that you need a serious offer

Don't fake it

lol some people have balls man ill tell ya

user4704

1419 zero-answer questions :D

do other SE communities do a winter refactor?

5:34 PM

yes

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user4704

@SpartanDonut I dunno, I totally invented it for here.

user4704

I know one other moderator said he liked the idea and was going to try and do something similar, but I don't know.

user4704

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Q: How does XNA's KeyboardState represent all keyboards?

I already understand how to work with Keyboard and KeyboardState, but when debugging I happened to take a look at the KeyboardState's non-public members via the VS debugger. I expected to see a large list of values, but instead, only saw 8 uints at a static level, and another 8 uints per instance...

Well good work anyway

user4704

5:41 PM

It's pretty easy for us, I think, because honestly this mostly involves closing impossible-to-answer questions.

indeed thats a purty looking dataset

after about another 200 hours of practice game dev i thnk im ready to give @byte56 's lynda course a second watch

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