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5:19 AM
@hxd perhaps you could include the information somewhere at that post, for the next person. I recall a time (many decades past) when I asked myself the same question. But not having a StackExchange at the time, I answered it as well.
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Q: Model choice when I'm dealing with non-random selections from upper and lower parts of a poisson distributed curve

analicer09I asked earlier about what to do about my dataset, but didn't get any answers. I'll make it shorter this time in hopes that I'll get the answers I'm looking for. I'm not very good at stats, but I need to get my thesis done in a couple of months so I hope I can get my head around this: I collect...

I'm reminded of Fisher's comment about consulting the statistician after the experiment is finished
 
 
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3:56 PM
@hxd1011: I also work in the industry and daily interact with people from non-technical backgrounds. Black-boxes do work beautifully in certain fields like CV and NLP that have reasonably well-defined structures, they work because we build them so they recognise the features. It is not a coincide that if you look at NN zoos you have NNs for faces, translations, emotions and so on. Try customer analytics; (almost?) nothing is there because a happy customer (ie. human behaviour) is much fuzzier.
 
4:09 PM
The problem with black-boxes especially if we deal with non-technical people is that if they break, we are lame ducks in terms of criticism. We said $X$ and $Y$ happened, they are unhappy and we have no excuse. We then sit around trying to think what happened, trying to deduce why a model gave a particular output or not. Don't get me wrong, I routinely use black-boxes; I rave on how amazing GAMMs are but out-of-the-box gradient boosters do amazingly well and I use them all the time. :)
 
@usεr11852 yes, I agree, and in fact, I am a very conservative person and like the model with high bias low variance. I do against blackbox model without totally understand how the data are collected and data distribution.
in that way it is no way to tell if the inputs are changed in production.
I recently wants to open my mind a little bit more to use some of these black box thing.
the data changes too fast, e.g., technology platform change.
so, the model will be trashed in few years anyway.
 
4:29 PM
@Glen_b I couldn't even find a question in that post. We ought to start by elucidating that. A person who only has data, but has no objective and no knowledge of methods to evaluate those data, is a person with nothing at all. We can't even attempt Fisher's post mortem until we have some clue about what the experiment was for in the first place!
 

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