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2:03 AM
@chl, thanks for the links, I downloaded the pdf, and bought the book from Amazon. I have been putting off these techniques for too long. The group I was in never paid much attention to them. Have you used them before?
 
 
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9:06 AM
perhaps someone here might be able to answer the first part of my question on Biology SE (thought I'd just pop a message here rather than cross-posting) RE extracting variance components from lmer - biology.stackexchange.com/questions/21993/…
 

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