Discussion between NuTTyX and William David Edwards - 2014-09-29

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4:20 PM

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Q: What has priority? A 'system' link or my website?

I have cPanel and clients can access it via mydomain.com/cpanel, but I don't want them to. So I configured in my .htaccess that mydomain.com/cpanel should be redirected to mydomain.com/somethingElse but it still redirects me. Is this because mydomain.com/cpanel is a 'system link'?

What do you mean by it still redirects me? Does the redirect in your .htaccess work?

William David Edwards

@NuTTyX it still redirects me = /cpanel redirects me to cPanel.

Where do you have your .htaccess? It should be on the cpanel folder or it's parents. Being a symbolic link could break inheritance, since apache searchs for those files from the current folder (the document that is being served) to the root folder.

William David Edwards

@NuTTyX I don't have access to the cpanel directory, hence why I'm trying to do it via .htaccess in the public_html folder of a VirtualHost.

Could you please show what you can and what you cannot do? (Edit apache's config files, create/delete/rename files on DocumentRoot and cpanel directory, etc) Also, it would be nice if you posted your .htaccess with you have tried so far.

William David Edwards

4:20 PM

@NuTTyX I don't have access to any system files/folders. My .htaccess is functional, it's just a basic working 301 redirect.

Could you post your .htaccess? May be you have missed something.

William David Edwards

@NuTTyX Maybe we should continue this in chat.

OK

William David Edwards

Hi!

Hi

William David Edwards

4:21 PM

OK... so as you probably already understood, I am on a server with cPanel installed. I am not able to manage the system though, so I can't change system files/folders.

Clients of mine, hosted on that server, can use www.mydomain.com/cpanel

I don't want them to.

The thing with .htaccess is that if you try to use RewriteRule, you might get stuck with folders, and probably (didn't test myself) won't work with symlynks

William David Edwards

Exactly, that's what I thought too.

so if you are using RewriteRule to do the redirect, you might not get it working...

William David Edwards

I am using a simple 301 redirect at the moment, could you elaborate a bit more further on the RewriteRule?

could you please post any mod_rewrite rules that apply?

I mean: do you use RewriteBase?

or RewriteCond ?

William David Edwards

4:23 PM

Just a simple redirect (Redirect 301 cpanel site)

RewriteConf /cpanel(.*) /someotherplace/$1 [R=301]

??

William David Edwards

No, exactly like I said

Redirect is not from mod_rewrite, is from mod_alias

William David Edwards

Yep.

that COULD work better than mod_rewrite, actually

William David Edwards

4:25 PM

K.

But you missed the /

William David Edwards

That was just an example ^

What I'm actually using is Redirect 301 /cpanel http://domain.com

Redirect /cpanel /site

and it doesn't work?

William David Edwards

Nope.

that's ... unexpected

William David Edwards

4:27 PM

Haha.

give me a few minutes

William David Edwards

OK. I really appreciate the help btw.

ok, I have tested myself on a apache2.2

Redirect DOES work

Do you have shell access to the server?

ps -ef | grep http

to check whole path to http binary

Check version with /path/to/binary -v

just to make sure

do you have read access to the config files on apache?

just read, to check if you are allowed to use .htaccess

grep -r -e Directory -e Location -e AllowOverride /path/to/apache/config/files

if there is any "None" that could explain why your .htaccess does not work

Actually, if there is not an AllowOverride All or FileInfo, Redirect won't work on that Directory

William David Edwards

5:09 PM

Sorry for the late response (dinner)

I can request SSH access.

The output is.

x 568487 567579 0 18:15 pts/0 00:00:00 grep http

no http proccess? may be with ps -ef | grep apache ?

seems that you are not allowed to use .htaccess files

William David Edwards

I am allowed to use .htaccess files, I have more in my .htaccess and it's functional

... grep apache just shows the same as above but it replaces http with apache

assuming domain.com as your domain

a request to domain.com/my_file.html

William David Edwards

yes..?

would show a file at the same level as your .htacces is?

William David Edwards

5:21 PM

Yep..

and cpanel is a symlink on that folder too, isn't it?

William David Edwards

I believe it's a symlink in /var/html or a similar path

it is not on your folder?

William David Edwards

No, otherwise I'd just delete it

but otherwise you control all the content on your site? or just your personal folder?

William David Edwards

5:24 PM

Let's take DirectAdmin as example

Each VirtualHost has it's own public_html folder, of course

ok

William David Edwards

Let's say I create a folder a in my public_html folder

And I create one in /var/www/html too, when I go to www.mydomain.com/a it'll show me the contents of /var/www/html/a/

ok

William David Edwards

The same with cPanel

When I try to override /var/www/html with .htaccess it'll probably not work

So I guess we'd be better off looking for an alternative

as far as I know, .htaccess will apply to a folder and it's children

William David Edwards

5:27 PM

Precisely.

So I can't 'override' the /var/ww/html with it

And as I can't access it, I can't apply rules to it

so if you do not have a cpanel subfolder/link, it means that cpanel could have been configured either by an alias or with a Location and some hook

William David Edwards

Exactly, which is probably in /var/www/html or something similar

It's kind of a server-wide folder

you should try to use mod_rewrite

William David Edwards

Could you give me an example of it's usage?

replace Redirect with the following

RewriteEngine on

RewriteBase /

William David Edwards

5:29 PM

What would happen then

?

RewriteRule /cpanel(.*) domain.com/othersite$1 [R=301]

same results as expected

William David Edwards

OK, let me try that out. I'll be back in a sec

at least, it should work like that

I'll test it myself

William David Edwards

Nope, it just redirects me to cP

yup, confirmed on my side too... seems that mod_rewrite first goes to the directory, then searches for .htaccess

well, if you cannot edit apache's config files

neither locate cpanel directory

you won't be able to change that behaviour

at least to my knowledge

William David Edwards

5:34 PM

Yup, I think so too.. I'll try to contact my host to be sure.

Thanks a ton for your time!!

no problem

sorry it didn't work

William David Edwards

no problem, you tried your best.

So.. thanks and good luck in the rest of your life :p

same to you

William David Edwards

Ty. Have a good day!

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