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C2R
1:37 AM
@FaheemMitha sorry, I d fallen asleep
but yea?
I read that Rectina had sent a letter before the volcano reached Stabiae
which is 4.5 km (2.8 mi) from Pompeii
@Andrew you ve got a point...let s see how it works next time
and the style suggestion sounds good
@FaheemMitha but yes, since the map shows that Stabiae lies towards the south of the Bay of Naples and Misenum to the north, that is a bit hard to believe
perhaps she sent it with those fleeing northwards on ships?
@Andrew I was thinking we could have discussions on writing styles first...starting with grammar
i have doubts about tenses in single paragraphs in my Mount Vesuvius fiction
or perhaps we can post write on Tuesdays and then post grammar doubts on specific site such as English Language and Usage by quoting our own sentences
 
 
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3:06 AM
@C2R... I'd love to talk and discuss grammar!
 
 
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C2R
4:28 AM
@Andrew Yay!
 
 
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9:19 AM
@C2R Source?
 
 
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Q: How to share research and character notes between multiple works in Scrivener?

VatineMy previous workflow was "write in LaTeX, using emacs", with research and character notes kept in plain-text files, using symlinks between multiple works set in the same fictional world. This allowed me trivial flexibility in sharing character notes between multiple works, while only having a si...

 
 
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Q: i am looking to self publish a book but i don't need everything the sites offer

bekai have created a picture book and already have it designed and have a local printer who is going to handle the print-on-demand. i can not find a self publishing website that does not dictate the layout/design, and printing of the book. can anyone tell me 1) is there a site out there where ...

 
1:47 PM
@Andrew Sometimes our topic includes a particular style, but not everyone knows all the styles. Of course, you're free to pick any style you like. It's always fun to see what people come up with.
 
I am 31.5 hours into my week.
 
Hm, and it's only hump day.
 
Yeah. #fml
You remember that dev I always complain about?
 
He's the reason we did not launch on Aug 1.
And there is so much of me that wants to get in the director's face and shout "I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO!"
But I have not done that.
 
Instead I am giving up my weekends and nights to get this work done so we can meet the new deadline.
And my anger curls inside me like a whip.
And if that dev is not fired when he comes back from vacation, I'm not entirely sure what I plan to do about it.
 
I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
Because it is the director's failed oversight that is costing me my summer and my time with my children.
 
Yeah. The problem isn't solely the dev, it's systematic.
 
The VP was extremely unhappy.
I would be very surprised if he didn't insist that someone needed firing.
And the director has to feel betrayed. The dev blatantly lied to him and then left him to out to dry.
 
2:43 PM
@KitZ.Fox what kind of development do you do? And apologies if I've asked that question already.
 
3:29 PM
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Q: How to format common words that are made "special"?

Alexandro ChenIn my novel, there's something that the characters refer to as "darkness". It simbolizes the bad thoughts of depressed/sucidal people. A short silence. I imagined Joel nodding his head in the dark. "After an outing, you feel as if something has crept inside you. Something dark and murky, ...

 
4:03 PM
@FaheemMitha software
 
@KitZ.Fox ok
 
ah. I see
I guess a hot poker to the liver would sort him out
 
Maybe.
It's not helping my mood any.
Are you stressing about work stuff?
 
4:20 PM
yeah
I'll get over it, once I talk to my colleagues and email someone.
 
I'm getting some tingles on and trying to release my expectations.
Because this day is not working the way I want it too, which means I need to stop trying and let it do its thing.
I really wanted a burrito and couldn't make it happen.
Then my silver polish is not here. I left it at home by accident.
 
sounds like a good frame of mind, at least
 
I'm trying. I'm really tired.
I can't decide what to paint my toes.
 
turquiose
 
That's what they were last time.
 
4:29 PM
a combination of glitter and royal blue?
 
Oh, good idea.
 
or navy blue and glitter, to look like the night sky
 
Yes! That's why I have those.
The glitter has stars and moons in it.
 
I also have yellow glitter, and pink and blue sparkles.
 
4:31 PM
nice. that would look good
 
I subbed copper for the silver too. It's not perfect, but it's close enough.
 
5:08 PM
steampunk starry night
 
5:49 PM
two coats of blue, no silver glitter yet though.
cuz I was meeting.
 
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Sup guys!
 
Hey @Arrow.
 
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Hi @KitZ.Fox!
 
I was about to do the writing exercise while I was waiting for my toes to dry.
 
user116848
Yeah writing exercises are fun.
 
user116848
Starred!
 
6:29 PM
@KitZ.Fox Delightful imagery, as always
 
C2R
6:40 PM
@FaheemMitha source - Wikipedia for sequence of events and Google image search (with keyword 'eruption of vesuvius') for map
 
@C2R So WP mentioned the letter sending et. al.? Surprising. BTW, you can link the what you are replying to by right-clicking. No reason not to do so if you need to.
 
C2R
@KitZ.Fox your writing has such good flow
@FaheemMitha wait...it was a message sent with a messenger
 
@C2R Yes, I see.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It's the missing piece from the hardest puzzle in the world, but I didn't get that far before I ran out of time.
@C2R Thanks
 
@KitZ.Fox Yeah I was feeling like you were building up to something.
 
6:51 PM
@C2R The geography is unclear to me, but it seems likely the friend was some distance from the eruption. Hence had time to send messages and so forth.
 
C2R
@FaheemMitha yea, it wasn't a letter...it must ve been some selective reading on my part!
 
@C2R probably sent a person across the bay. maybe with a letter. Who knows. It isn't specified and probably isn't known.
 
C2R
@FaheemMitha could be ...I d looked at this image and taken a guess about the geography
let me just celebrate for linking 'this' in that post
haha...sorry!
 
Misenum to Stabae. Probably not that far, but a scale isn't given.
Oh, it is.
Looks like 20 miles or so.
 
C2R
@FaheemMitha remember I was randomly saying yesterday that the friend may have sent a message across the bay northwards...didn't know it might ve actually been the case
 
6:59 PM
Maybe 30.
@C2R North-westish, looks like.
 
C2R
hmm...may be
yea
 
The Gulf of Naples is really pretty small.
Poor Stabaiae. Destroyed by Sulla, then re-destroyed by Vesuvius.
 
C2R
@FaheemMitha natural disasters manage to really make us feel like it s end-all
@KitZ.Fox would you be continuing with that piece?
@FaheemMitha I m reading that Sulla was a dictator
 
Sulla was Julius Caesar's uncle, and a nasty piece of work.
 
C2R
@FaheemMitha ok...just reading about him
 
7:10 PM
He was very famous in his day, but 2000 years later you'd have difficulty finding anyone who had heard about him. Unless they were in the habit of reading historical novels.
Though really, many of the Roman nobility seem to have been total psychos.
 
C2R
seems he got massacred 80,000 Romans and Italians
 
That period of Roman history has been quite extensively documented. And several people have written novels based in the period, notably Robert Graves, Allan Massie, and Rex Warner.
@C2R Yes, about par for those sorts of people. JS killed a lot more people, I imagine.
 
Anyone doing nanowrimo this year? I see @KitZ.Fox won it last year (congrats BTW!).
 
C2R
@FaheemMitha ah
do you like to read a lot of history?
 
@C2R Not especially. But I've read quite a few novels set in the Claudian period. I guess it must have interested me at some point. Can't quite remember why, now.
Though the Claudian dynasty was among the more prominent periods of Roman history, and of course Rome remains important for many reasons in the 21st century.
 
C2R
7:17 PM
I like history myself but don't remember reading literature based on it
 
@C2R ok
 
@Andrew Thanks, yes.
 
The Claudian period is also significant because the transition from the Roman Republic to Imperial Rome happened during that time. And that was of course a very important change.
 
C2R
@FaheemMitha yea, i remember reading that before there was the Roman Empire, there was the Roman Kingdom and the Roman Republic
 
Though the Roman Republic was still very brutal. Look what they did to Carthage.
@C2R I don't know of a Roman Kingdom.
 
7:21 PM
How do you prepare for it @KitZ.Fox?
 
@C2R Oh, I see, the Kingdom was before the Republic. You learn something new every day.
JC in particular gets quite a lot of press to this day.
 
C2R
@FaheemMitha read a little about Carthage
yea...there is always a lot to learn...everyday
@FaheemMitha do you think I use too much of the ellipsis?
 
@C2R Hmm. Don't have an opinion right now. Ask me again in a month. :-)
@C2R Very ugly business.
 
C2R
@FaheemMitha yes, i think so too
I use it to indicate a pause where a comma won't work
but they also advise you to try and not use the comma
as much as possible
 
The Romans were notably brutal people. Which is no doubt why they were so successful.
 
C2R
7:31 PM
@FaheemMitha yea, no doubt
 
Mmm. You could also use a semi-colon, colon or dash.
Though a dash may be considered lazy.
 
C2R
dash, yes
 
Although many good writers have used it.
 
C2R
but I have to first stop pausing in sentences (esp when chatting) where it isn't necessary
@FaheemMitha I have seen dash being used a lot
 
@C2R Yes, dashes are popular.
 
C2R
7:40 PM
@FaheemMitha I think people find it easier to use a dash where they re not sure about using a semicolon
 
@C2R Maybe so.
 
C2R
actually, I think most people don't think about using the semicolon at all
 
@C2R The semi-colon is a perfectly reasonable choice. I use it regularly. It has the virtue of being relatively precise. Longer than the comma, shorter than the colon.
 
C2R
@FaheemMitha I was just searching for a discussion on Quora about semicolons
had found it interesting
here s the link
I was reading it the other day
 
This looks like a good article: englishgrammartutor.com/punctuation.htm.
 
C2R
7:53 PM
cause I am wary about using it
ohhh thanks!
I will read on that site
btw, I ve always had an interest in history and stories
used to think those must ve been better days for humanity
 
It looks like you are new to SE. Where are you located?
@C2R What is "those"?
 
C2R
been a couple of years that I realized they were not
by those and they I mean the ancient times :)
I am new to SE
thought you d been meaning to ask me that :D
 
@C2R I think humans always tend to think some earlier/different time was better. It's a "grass is greener" thing.
 
C2R
would you like to take a guess?
 
@C2R What, about location?
Hard to say. Possibly Western Europe. Possibly Middle or South America. Could even be the Middle East, though that is less likely.
 
C2R
8:01 PM
@FaheemMitha nope
I m in South Asia
you follow the news?
 
@C2R Ah, Ok.
@C2R Not really.
 
C2R
yea?
@FaheemMitha where are you located?
 
@C2R Bombay, India.
 
C2R
I m close
 
@C2R Pakistan?
 
C2R
8:03 PM
Kathmandu, Nepal
haha
 
I know where you are.
 
@C2R ok
 
Mods have special powers for that.
 
C2R
Mods?
You d have heard about the earthquake that took place here 3 months ago
@KitZ.Fox didn't see it was you
 
@C2R I did, yes. One of the people who works for me is from Uttar Pradesh. His house fell down.
 
C2R
8:05 PM
Mods as in moderator! of course
 
I think his village is sufficiently far north that it was affected by the quake.
 
C2R
@FaheemMitha not at all...it shook here like crazy
 
@C2R "not at all"?
 
C2R
@FaheemMitha thought you were referring to me with in the 'village' post
I was trying to say that I was affected by the quake
 
@C2R I was just saying that the village of someone who works for me was affected. In Uttar Pradesh, India.
North India.
He is from there. He lives here, in Bombay.
Anyway, time to go to sleep. Talk to you later.
 
C2R
8:11 PM
@FaheemMitha oh ok...I must ve missed something
ok
Speak later
@Andrew good luck with the contest
 
@C2R Yes. Names in blue are mods.
 
C2R
@KitZ.Fox ok
 
@Andrew Are you interested? I can give you some pointers.
 
C2R
@KitZ.Fox if you dont mind me asking, do you write for most part of the day?
 
For NaNo?
Or for my job?
 
C2R
8:23 PM
@KitZ.Fox job
 
It is often that a large part of my day is writing or taking notes.
 
C2R
@KitZ.Fox ok
and I saw your NaNo progress page
that must be a lot of hard work
 
I can write 1667 words in about two hours if I am sufficiently loose.
That's easier to do on weekends.
And then I spend a lot of commute time thinking about what I will write.
 
C2R
@KitZ.Fox I spend a lot of time trying to gain insights from conversations and situations
write them in rough
so i m finding it difficult to take the initiative to actually write
although it s become easier over here
 
Doing the free writes helps with speed. I used to have trouble getting started, but now my writing style is more like see what comes out and worry about what I want it to mean later.
I've written a few things I really like that I feel have deeper meaning, and they came out of spontaneous writing on a generic topic that I then took some time to sit and think about.
 
C2R
8:33 PM
how long ago was it that you decided to start writing like you do?
 
you mean novel writing or work writing?
 
C2R
@KitZ.Fox I mean, how many years' practice have you had?
novel writing
 
I picked it up again seriously about three years ago. Whenever the writing blog I post on, whenever that started.
 
C2R
And I v been meaning to ask only about that
 
I've been writing my whole life. I went to a college that was writing intensive.
 
C2R
8:39 PM
ok
@KitZ.Fox you know writing here is actually helping with my focus
 
Good. I've found it helps me organize my thinking.
 
C2R
mm hmm
my goal, though, is to diverge my thoughts
hope I can slowly get to that as well
@KitZ.Fox ok, i m going to bed
great talking to you
 
Good night.
 
C2R
talk later
You have a good day :)
 

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