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Q: Story-telling to improve writing skills?

Razie MahI came up with a theory that story telling would be a fun way to improve my style and narrative structure in fiction. Does anyone have any experience doing this? Currently, I am making up mostly bed time stories for children and some stories during car trips with adults.

 
 
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5:03 AM
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Q: What should take precedence? Rhythm or clarity?

Alexandro Chen We resumed our way, until we finally exit the woods and reached a valley. Two ridges stood on both sides, meeting together on the far horizon. In the middle was a river, its quiet surface perfectly reflecting the moon in the sky. There were no trees. Only bushes and autumn-colored shru...

 
 
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11:02 AM
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Q: How do you describe the way of sitting of the guy in the photo?

ImDoubleHueJust the guy with his hands on the girl's shoulder. How do I perfectly describe this? please help. Thank you so much!

 
 
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4:46 PM
waits excitedly
 
same
 
fidgets
 
is it time?
 
6 minutes
 
Starts countdown theme tune
 
4:55 PM
i probably won't even be able to participate; i'm at work. but i'm intensely curious
@RhysW IT'S THE FINAALL COUNTDOWWWN!
 
do do do doo, do do do do doooo
 
doo weeee ooooo
 
i think this is the first one im actually here on time for
 
Hello everyone
waves
 
hey there
 
4:57 PM
herrrooo
 
@KitFox @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 @NeilFein @LaurenIpsum you guys around?
 
I'm here, but I need a few minutes before I can start.
 
sure. even I need sometime
anyone has a topic in mind?
 
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Q: Weekly Writer's Chat 2013

KitFoxWeekly Writer's Chat is back on a regular meeting schedule after a hiatus. We meet Tuesdays in The Overlook Hotel starting at 1700 UTC (1pm EDT) and generally wrap up anywhere from 2pm to 4pm Eastern, depending on how much people feel like chatting. What we do in chat: We have informal writing...

 
5:03 PM
That's how we do the writing exercise.
 
Yup. I know. I have been a regular for the past few weeks
was asking if someone had a prompt ready
 
I haven't seen a host show up yet.
 
Man this is all smack in the middle of my work day lol
 
@MετάEd We don't really have an official host, besides Kit, who is absent most of the time since she started her new job.
 
Host list seems to be Nathan C. Tresch, Kevin Stricker, StrixVaria, sjohnston, KitFox. But Kit is the only one I ever see hosting.
 
5:06 PM
@MετάEd not necessarily. As @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 mentioned, we do not always have an official host
 
@MετάEd That's just the list of room owners
 
I have led the chat previously. @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 has also led the chat before
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yes, that's what it is, and part of the format is that the weekly writing prompts are permastarred which takes a room owner.
Anyone can step up to lead a chat, we are just a bit handicapped without an owner.
 
@MετάEd ah, I see. That part of the meta post refers to the weekly assignments, which pretty much never happen.
I don't even remember when the last one was.
 
I haven't seen an assignment since the time I have joined Writers
 
5:09 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I do know last week Kit sent me that meta post specifically so I would know it.
 
@MετάEd I'm not sure why she did that.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I assumed it was so I would follow it better next time :-)
Things like, prefer people link their work rather than pasting it.
 
I don't know that we need to be so formal as what Kit originally decided way back when this was new.
Nobody has time for the long-form exercises anyway... we haven't bothered posting them.
A bunch of us tried to do a "pass around the story and add a chapter", but it died after two chapters.
As far as I'm concerned, the "timed exercise" has merged with the weekly exercise, and we just post them here any ol' way. I prefer to use gdocs because I keep a log of them.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Cool idea though.
 
@MετάEd Yeah I wish it had taken off.
So, writing prompts for today? anyone? anyone?
My suggestion is "A better love story than Twilight"
 
5:13 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 love it haha
 
I had "The last candle" in mind
 
@PraveshParekh That's interesting
 
who all are participating?
 
Whoever posts a story at the end :-D
 
5:18 PM
so which is it?
 
So, we have more topics than we need, do we vote on one, or what? Are we ready?
 
i like the twilight one personally lol
 
I am cool with either. You guys make a call?
 
Heads it's twilight, Tails it's candle
 
Toss!
did you toss?
 
5:21 PM
It came up middle! now what? :P
 
Tails, two out of three
 
darn
i have to go
have fun guys!!!
 
cya
 
see you
 
Are we ready? @meer2kat you can always write something later and post it here
 
5:23 PM
whats the topic?
 
A better love story than twilight is it?
 
2 mins ago, by Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Heads it's twilight, Tails it's candle
 
Gimme a minute
 
So "The last candle" is the topic
I guess you could always combine them and still meet the requirements
 
back
woops my bad
:P
All set?
 
5:25 PM
I'm ready.
 
Check Notepad. Yup. Ready to go.
 
@RhysW, @MετάEd, @Alraxite @waxeagle @KitFox we are starting the exercise now
10(ish) minutes. Go
 
I will catch up after I've eaten.
 
Never heard of the last candle
so this could involve a bit of research
 
Time up?
No?
 
5:42 PM
Hi, sorry I'm late. So "the last candle", is it? (I don't think that's a specific reference to anything and we can do what we want with it, right?)
 
Hello @MonicaCellio
yup
 
@PraveshParekh ok, back in a few with...whatever comes out of my brain. :-)
 
@RhysW Just do whatever you want with it.
I still need 5 minutes with mine.
 
shall I paste mine or link?
 
Ok, I've written something. Don't have an easy place to post, so I'll try pasting it in here.
 
paste should work fine I guess
Here is mine:

She looked at the candle's flame. It flickered in the silence of the night. Flickered like the last leaf on a tree in Autumn. Flickered like Hope. She was sitting in a small room, the walls closing in on her. "How much longer?" she wondered. It was the last candle left with her. She had thought about it but had decided that it was time. Since the time she was a little girl, she had always been afraid of the dark. Her thoughts rolled back to a few days before when she had awoken to the sound of strange men in her room. She had tried to scream but they were quick to silence her
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He stands in the dining room, lit faintly by the glow of streetlights through the windows and, more immediately, by the dying flames of the Chanukah menorah. Last night, so eight candles -- plus the helper candle, the one that does all the work so the others can stand tall and pretty and proud.

The menorah is one of many craft projects that the kids brought home from school, wood and glue and paint full of more love than skill, but he wouldn't trade it for the fanciest wares in the window of Goldberg's, a shop he's never ventured into. He thinks back to when he brought such projects home
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Jez
lots of candles around today
 
6:01 PM
@Jez That's our topic. "The last candle"
 
That's today's theme -- "the last candle".
 
If you start writing now you can write the last last candle.
 
You can still jump in if you want to!
 
Jez
oh.
i kinda prefer Kit's suggestive avian works
 
Kit's avian works?
 
6:07 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Good one. Who's name? :P
You can always write a prologue to this, no?
 
@PraveshParekh Sharla hopes it's the real killer's name.
@PraveshParekh You can probably guess how it goes.
 
What if she saw "His" name?
where His = The Higher Power
 
That might be a useful clue, I guess. It really depends on details I haven't imagined yet. ;)
 
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Q: what is the best way to make money on the side as a beginning author?

user8524I am a new author and as I am writing my novels, I need a little revenue. Are there sites that would pay for articles being written? Any suggestions would be great!

 
@MonicaCellio I liked your work. Has a touch of nostalgia
I really liked this part:
"He thinks back to when he brought such projects home to his parents -- a tradition that may be as old as his great-grandmother's Shabbat candlesticks"
 
6:14 PM
@PraveshParekh thanks. I had no idea where it was going when I started writing -- the nature of this sort of exercise. :-)
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 nice one. I hope we get the followup and the back story someday.
 
I guess this is how most of our exercises are. Having a blank "canvas" in mind and then someone shoots a topic at you
 
@PraveshParekh nicely done. Makes me wonder if the scraping, slithering thing was smart enough to count candles and wait it out.
 
Perhaps it was part of the entire thing?
maybe a "pet" of those "men"
 
@PraveshParekh looks like the rest of you are faster to develop coherent plots than I am.
Mine's more of a vignette than an actual story.
 
Well because I proposed the topic so I guess I was biased a little. The canvas was not blank :)
Thanks! :)
 
6:17 PM
@MonicaCellio I wouldn't count it out but it's not likely. Most of my writing exercises are little snapshots of stories that will never be finished.
 
^The same!
Most of my writings are what I call "sketches" rather than full stories
 
Makes sense -- any artist does hundreds or thousands of sketches on the way to making a few finished pieces, after all.
 
In a way I'm glad that we went with this candle topic. I was going to try to fit a love story into mine but I panicked at the last second and decided to leave the romance out, or unstated. I don't think I have the experience yet to sketch that part convincingly.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 both of us read something "dark" in the topic
I had initially thought of a small village in flood time with someone trapped in a house or something sitting and watching the last candle burn itself out
 
6:26 PM
@MattЭллен neat!
This took on a nice curve all the way as it sliced through their bodies ;)
 
@MattЭллен nice :)
 
@MattЭллен nicely done. I wondered where that was going.
 
Thanks!
 
Well, I have to run. see you all next week.
 
6:33 PM
ciao!
 
@MonicaCellio It seems you have the most positive view on candles :D
 
Hi.
 
Hello @KitFox
 
Yipes.
 
6:35 PM
@MattЭллен at the moment. :-) (We just finished the festival of Passover, so festival candles were on my mind I guess, and that naturally led to Chanukah which is full of candles...)
 
@KitFox you are giving it a shot?
 
@PraveshParekh I like how you've created despair
 
Not right now.
 
@MattЭллен Thanks! The general idea in my mind was despair
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 very gruesome and a bit sad, too.
 
6:37 PM
welcome @LaurenIpsum
 
@PraveshParekh Hey! sorry, I was working. Last week was an aberration; I'm almost never in the chat room
 
Oh...I see
 
gotta keep those pesky bills paid. :)
 
@MonicaCellio it's a sweet story.
 
@PraveshParekh but thanks for the invite. I can try to make the effort to be here next week
 
6:39 PM
\m/
 
If we don't have a topic for next week, I still want to do limericks. :)
 
@LaurenIpsum you can still write now.
 
I wish I could, but I just stopped in because I had the notification. I have to get back to work.
<— waves
 
I want to read...but I want to write...if I read first, won't that mess me up? And anyway, I have to work.
grumpy face
 
@MattЭллен that was nice, short and simple, though when you said ping i immediately thought microwave, which really painted a strange image in my head, even if only for a second
 
6:46 PM
Thanks :D what would be a better noise?
@KitFox awww
 
hmm, not really sure, 'snap' immediately comes to mind, but thats used a lot and still doesnt sound like the best fit, not sure really
i do have one question for you though
are you still gonna do it?
 
yes
I'm still doing it :D
 
awesome, do you have any other stories on there or is it just that one?
i dont use tumblr so i get lost in its controls
 
stupid crazy internet controls.....thanks :P
 
6:58 PM
no :)
problem
that was meant to be np
 
haha i was so confused, 'thanks' 'no.' ...' oh :('
 
Matt's was soooo good!
 
Agreed
 
What were the final requirements for the prompt?
 
the last candle
 
7:12 PM
any time limit?
 
that was the prompt / condition
um, 10 mins?
 
yeah, 10 minutes
 
awesome i'm going to write mine when i get home
 
ill join you, sort of put mine to the side half way through
im not very good at sticking mine out
 
i'm not as good with prose...but my poetry usually makes people cry
so...this should be fun. i'll see if i can't do it with a regular story
 
7:19 PM
my writing makes people cry, though probably not for the same reason ;)
 
hehehe!
 
7:40 PM
done
It’s funny, she thought while she lay down, watching the sun set in front of her. I never thought it would be this way. A train whistled in the distance and she shivered. You’re my best friend, Maria. It was getting dark. She sat up, lit the candle in front of her for a little light and lay on her back to watch the stars appear before her eyes.
Her friend would tell her do not be afraid, if she could. Another train whistle, a little closer now. She trembled now but felt somehow at peace with the stars twinkling above her, a little glimmer of hope. She thought back to when they were kids. Maria was yelling at a group of boys that teased her. A few years later, Maria was in high heels and stepped on her exes’ foot for cheating on her. She giggled.
Always the strong one, defending me until death. Truly best friends forever, she thought. You’ve always been strong for me, she thought. Another whistle, maybe a half mile away by now. The ground started shaking. Or was that her? She was scared and couldn’t decide. She looked at the candle resting between her rib cage. That was Maria, always being the ray of light. Maria had had her secrets, of course. Everyone does.
She wished that Maria had told her how life really was at home and how scared she was. In the end it had been too much and she gave up on life. Tears suddenly started streaming down her face. She missed Maria so much. She heard a train whistle. I’ll see you soon, she thought. A rush, a burst of wind, a whistle, a flash. The last candle blew out. Together, forever.
 
8:21 PM
This was nice.
While reading it I thought of another story that I had read several years ago
in which a man who has become hopeless goes to a railway station and lies down on the track. However for several hours the train does not come and he later finds out that there was an accident somewhere else and the trains were running late. He eventually goes back home
and at the same time I thought (while reading) this time she is not going home
and which is what happened in the end
Writing exercise chat transcript here: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/168/conversation/…
 
8:42 PM
thanks! and that's really interesting!!
 
9:01 PM
It is known as "Out of business" by "Dr. R. K. Narayan". I can't find it online. Read it several years ago as a part of my school course.
 

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