The Frying Pan

Journeyman Geek

6:03 AM

E10 Officemade Cake! Happy Birthday, Xiaoye! Just three simple wishes. Sh!

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0_0 vaguely DIY easybake oven

(man, this series is so surreal)

ElendilTheTall

8:36 AM

o/

Jolenealaska

Hi Baby!

me earlier:

But I'm better now.

ElendilTheTall

Why were you noping

Jolenealaska

We have a couple of users that I'd really like to send on a mission to Mars.

ElendilTheTall

Lol

Darwin wins

Jolenealaska

Cool ! :) I bet he rarely knows hunger.

So in addition to the two users who are really pushing buttons, we had like a dozen questions and answers yesterday from never before seen users that were just extraordinarily bad.

Journeyman Geek

8:59 AM

@Jolenealaska lol. I can think of a better planet to send them to.....

ElendilTheTall

9:27 AM

well

another day begins

let's check the to-do list

....

nuffing

Jolenealaska

> KANDAHAR, Afghanistan — The Taliban captured the strategic district of Sangin in the southern province of Helmand on Thursday, the culmination of a yearslong offensive that took the lives of more combatants than any other fight for territory in Afghanistan, according to local officials.

ElendilTheTall

you realise the nopes in that gif relate to the spider itself

it's not a way of displaying nopeness

Jolenealaska

It's a gif. I can interpret it in any way I want. :)

ElendilTheTall

but then we have to look at a horrifying spider each time

Jolenealaska

I'll delete him

ElendilTheTall

9:36 AM

phew

I don't mind little ones

big ones freak me out

my daughter opened her reading book from school yesterday next to me and GREAT WHITE SHARK. Jumped out of my skin.

Jolenealaska

You lost me there. Great white shark, you mean big spider?

ElendilTheTall

no

i'm talking animals that freak Tall out

big spiders

great white sharks

that's about it actually

Jolenealaska

Ah

Did I ever tell you about the wolf spider I caught my dad's dog playing with?

ElendilTheTall

hmmm

dings a dong

Jolenealaska

Biggest spider I've ever seen outside a pet store.

I need to reboot. BRB

I ended up calling an entomologist to be sure it was OK to release the spider (that he wasn't dangerous)

Non venomous, not prone to be aggressive. They hide all the time, that's why Iowans don't even know that they are surrounded by them.

What do you make of this?

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Q: Is vinegar just vinegar - even with a different flavor

Is vinegar simply just that - vinegar? If one were to keep every type of vinegar called for in recipes from around the world then there would be a lot of different types. Surely the basic chemical make up of all vinegars is the same, however the taste varies with what it is made from ie: cider ...

ElendilTheTall

10:03 AM

all spiders are venomous

just that some aren't dangerous to humans

Cindy

Mornin' guys.

@Jolenealaska PIA user.

Jolenealaska

@Cindy Yes that!

@ElendilTheTall Almost, but not quite

> Second, we have a set of false assumptions about spider venoms. Almost all spiders are venomous; only two small families lack venom glands.

burkemuseum.org/blog/…

Of course, my spider is not one of those

ElendilTheTall

@Cindy hi

Cindy

@ElendilTheTall How goes it?

@Jolenealaska Sooooooo annoying.

Back in a few........

ElendilTheTall

10:19 AM

SSDD

:)

I have Ted Nugent's Stranglehold stuck in my head

which is annoying, because he's a dickhole

but it's a catchy song

Jolenealaska

Well, I've searched. I can't find an actual dupe to that question (the one I just posted above).

@ElendilTheTall Of course I Googled that. Thanks for sharing the joy :)

ElendilTheTall

have you not heard it before? it's a rock classic!

the long noodle section in the middle goes on a bit, but then the main riff returns in fine style

Jolenealaska

With rare exceptions, I have always drifted towards music a bit more... soft?

Stephie

10:38 AM

Awww... really?

Jolenealaska

@Stephie Yeah, I know. I keep my car radio set to the oldies station - You know, Billy Joel type stuff.

Stephie

Neat. I like Billy Joel!

Jolenealaska

How do you not sing along with Piano Man? :-)

@Stephie you are exactly the person I was hoping to see. Do you eat a fair amount of seafood?

Stephie

Remember that I used to do ballroom dancing. And yes, I do sing along.

@Jolenealaska not as much as I'd love to. Define "a lot" ;-)

Jolenealaska

Well, there is a question on the main site that I could answer very well if the OP lived in America. He lists home as "Continental Europe".

In the US, unless you happen to live in a place where you can practically buy fresh seafood off the boat, it's almost always actually better to buy frozen than fresh.

ElendilTheTall

10:48 AM

Fun Billy Joel fact: he sang all the parts in the The Longest Time

Jolenealaska

I'm hoping that you'd like to answer the question, or fact check me as far as European versus American seafood purchasing.

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Q: Good Frozen Fish /seafood

Fish seems to be one of the food items that is much better with fresh ingredients than frozen. Why is this? If I want to shop frozen food for my freezer, what should I buy? Looking for Very delicious end result and/or Good result for the price and/or types of fish where the frozen vers...

fish seafood frozen

Stephie

@Jolenealaska agreed. "Fresh" can be quite "fishy", so to speak.

Jolenealaska

Great line!

Wanna answer, or shall I?

Billy Joel - The Longest Time

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It's a fave! :)

Stephie

@Jolenealaska Go ahead, I'm busy here. I happen to get paid for being here, I should at least pretend to work.

Journeyman Geek

lol

ElendilTheTall

10:56 AM

@Stephie I was once like you

Stephie

And now you stopped pretending?

Current task: get the kitchen to work faster because we are ahead of schedule.

And we can't have about a hundred of hungry people stampeding to the restaurant and have no food ready.

ElendilTheTall

@Stephie basically yes

lol

past caring

Stephie

You sound like the model of a bore-out case.

Urgh, we need to keep them talking for another thirty minutes.

Jolenealaska

I just got an update that the attacker in London was British born, but that he had not been under the radar.

Stephie

I'm sooo not following the media on this.

ElendilTheTall

11:11 AM

what's a bore-out case?

@Jolenealaska yes, known to MI5 apparently

(MI5 = the FBI, basically)

can't watch all the suspects all the time I guess

Journeyman Geek

You could, but the cure would be worse than the disease.

ElendilTheTall

especially if they're not communicating with anyone

Journeyman Geek

and that's what this sort wants

ElendilTheTall

@JourneymanGeek indeed

"those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither"

Journeyman Geek

pretty much

I'm also inclined to throwing them in the stocks in a pigskin jacket for this sort of thing.

ElendilTheTall

11:14 AM

violence just begets violence unfortunately

Journeyman Geek

Well, maybe. But the thing is violence has to be directed and discourage others not be punitive.

I mean, the romans would probably have publically crucified that guy's whole family

Stephie

@ElendilTheTall the opposite of a burnout.

ElendilTheTall

i see

yeah, that's about right :)

Jolenealaska

11:39 AM

Still here @Stephie?

ElendilTheTall

doesn't look like it

Jolenealaska

Yep. Well I just wanted to run my seafood answer by her for a European take on it.

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A: Good Frozen Fish /seafood

I'd like to start with an analogy. Look at what you said in comments that some vegetables are actually better purchased frozen than purchased fresh. Let's take frozen peas vs fresh. Peas notoriously begin to lose flavor and their great texture as soon as they are picked. Quality manufacturers of...

ElendilTheTall

looks good to me

but then I am the last person to talk about fish

<gag>

fun fact: Japan's flag is also a pie chart showing how much of Japan is Japan.

Jolenealaska

I know, otherwise I would have asked you! :)

@ElendilTheTall cute :)

ElendilTheTall

xD

Jolenealaska

11:52 AM

lol That's awful!

ElendilTheTall

but true

lol

actually only true in Paris

in my experience

Parisians want you dead

Journeyman Geek

@ElendilTheTall on the contrary

they consider you an inferior life form. Wanting you dead meant you actually mattered

The southerners and northerners are nice. Just not to each other.

ElendilTheTall

you've obviously never driven around the Arc De Triomphe

they want you dead

Journeyman Geek

You are in their way

ElendilTheTall

all French car insurance policies are null and void on Le Etoile

Stephie

12:15 PM

@Jolenealaska lunch. Back soon.

Jolenealaska

@Stephie OK!

ElendilTheTall

12:39 PM

brrr

the air con is stuck on

Jolenealaska

Why is it on at all?

ElendilTheTall

well, it's not air con as such

more like climate control

but it's stuck on cold

Stephie

Aaaaand I'm back.

Lunch was excellent.

Jolenealaska

Yay what was for lunch?

Stephie

12:54 PM

I had steamed "Tall doesn't like it" with spinach.

Jolenealaska

sounds great! I just had beans for breakfast :(

Stephie

Cod, to be exact.

Jolenealaska

Speaking of, have you had a chance to read my seafood answer?

Stephie

Not yet.

Jolenealaska

He stresses that he is European, so I'd like to add anything that might be more specific to there than here.

Dammit. I've been trying to convince Kitty that she is allowed in this kitchen; it's apparent that she was trained in her old home that kitties don't belong in the kitchen.

Journeyman Geek

1:07 PM

lol

If she was a dog. I'd say... totally no chance ;p

We didn't even train ash to stay out of the kitchen, and his ex owner didn't really have him long enough to either ;p

@Jolenealaska does she refuse to go anywhere near or stop at the doorway?

Jolenealaska

So just now I dropped a bowl of bean soup I was eating, made a big mess. I cussed a blue streak just as she was right at the line between carpet and tile. She sees that as the boundary.

Journeyman Geek

:(

ah

Stephie

Confirming the "stop here" idea.

Journeyman Geek

Not very bright critters. ;p

Jolenealaska

I think that's the first time she's ever heard me yell like that too. :(

She's under the bed now. I've only once known her to hide like that. There was a "stranger" (now her friend, George) in the apartment.

ElendilTheTall

1:13 PM

wow

Stephie

Ours has decided that he can wake me up to feed him around five am. I'm in the process of untraining him.

ElendilTheTall

how can we make this bland and tasteless fish even more bland and tasteless? cook it with water!

🙄

;)

Stephie

??

ElendilTheTall

steamed cod

at least deep fry it for heaven's sake

Stephie

spiced up and covered with herbs

ElendilTheTall

1:14 PM

hmm

Stephie

and steamed with some kind of broth

Not bland at all.

The cook here seems to have a kind of dried flowers mix he likes to use. A bit repetitive if seen two days in a row, but still...

ElendilTheTall

you're not selling it Steph

:)

Stephie

1:55 PM

It's kind of a backhanded compliment ;-)

And selling a seafood dish to you would be a futile attempt anyway.

Journeyman Geek

hands @ElendilTheTall a block of tofu

ElendilTheTall

thank you

I'd much rather tofu than fish

ElendilTheTall

2:49 PM

tum tee tum

awfully quiet

Jolenealaska

I'm here!

ElendilTheTall

hello

twice in one day?

Jolenealaska

I was just reading an article my news feed.

An Israeli - American, Jewish teenaged boy has been arrested in Israel for bomb threats against Jewish centers in the US.

That takes my breath away.

nytimes.com/2017/03/23/us/…

ElendilTheTall

3:05 PM

the world is a stupid place

Jolenealaska

It seems extra-special-stupid these days.

Journeyman Geek

@Jolenealaska ugh

might have some issues if he couldn't serve in the military

Jolenealaska

@JourneymanGeek How do you mean?

Journeyman Geek

@Jolenealaska we roughly have the same rules they do.

and if you're physically fit, mental illness is about the only way to get exempted

and it needs to be serious and potentially violent

So the kid might need help.

Its really horrible, especially since folk may not take real threats seriously, but there may be more to it than we know right now

Jefromi

That seems like it could, if not done really carefully, pretty badly stigmatize mental illness.

Jolenealaska

3:14 PM

I have a teenaged nephew with some rather serious anger management issues, supposedly somehow related to his Asperger's syndrome. He has been telling his mother that he wants to join the military upon graduation from high school. Dad told me about it when he came to visit. The very thought scared the crap out of me.

Journeyman Geek

@Jefromi yup

Jolenealaska

I remember basic training. They put a loaded M-16 in your hands and then stand behind to trying to get under your skin.

Journeyman Geek

@Jolenealaska heh. I'm pretty sure the folks who trained us my first time were nuts and somewhat incompetant.

Jolenealaska

I see that as potentially really tragic.

Journeyman Geek

Do you guys have a battle indocrination course?

crawling across a simulated battlefield, live ammo over head?

ElendilTheTall

3:16 PM

I remember seeing the basic aptitude test a friend had when he applied for the army. one of the questions was like "John is taller than Jack, who is tallest?"

Jolenealaska

@JourneymanGeek probably, with a different name.

ElendilTheTall

best of the best eh

Jolenealaska

@JourneymanGeek Oh yes

Journeyman Geek

did it once, it was hot and my knees hurt. Got yelled at for standing up. While dehydrated. Basically told an officier politely, I might faint if I didn't drink something. Drank 2 liters of water. DID IT AGAIN.

went home with 2 blistered oozing knees.

Jolenealaska

A tour as a drill sergeant is extremely good to have on a military resume.

Journeyman Geek

3:18 PM

they also ignored me limping for 2 months

The other batches were less dumb.

Jolenealaska

I stood up during that exercise too, to prove a point to the soldier next me who was scared beyond reason.

I got into big fat trouble.

Journeyman Geek

The recourse company only had heat exhaustion cases (and us trainees were all "We are NOT letting that guy who dropped out of commandos fall over. He needs water. GIVE HIM MORE WATER" and passed our water to him.

third time, no one gave a shit ;p

Jolenealaska

The soldiers in training are not supposed to know that the tracer bullets were good 10 feet over our head.

It's not exactly brain surgery when you can see the turrets the fire is coming out of.

Journeyman Geek

lol

yup

shooting someone in the head during training would be bad

Jolenealaska

I made that point as well!

We were as safe as in our mother's arms, more so in at least my case.

(my mother was nuts)

Journeyman Geek

3:24 PM

Oh, people did die in training

just not there

some poor kid got dunked during escape and evasion trianing when I was in the army

Jolenealaska

Our number one manner of death in basic training is suicide, followed by homicide.

The danger was not when tracer bullets were flying over our heads. The danger started once they put loaded M-16s in our hands.

Journeyman Geek

lol

We don't load guns except at range

we don't have ammo unless its range or guard duty

also, we're rediculously careful about spent rounds

well used to be. New ranges are "leave the rounds on the ground, we'll sweep". Then they xray our stuff and use metal detectors on the way out ;p

Jolenealaska

We do all those things too.

Journeyman Geek

We do not ever hand anyone a loaded gun ;p

or ammo until right when its needed ;p

Jolenealaska

3:39 PM

Same here. The homicides and suicides either happen on the range or during guard duty; or the very skilled soldier in question was a very sneaky son of a bitch. Either way, it happens. Does it never happen in Singapore?

Journeyman Geek

Nope

I guess the two person system stops that

(buddy + an officier (for 2 lanes)

also the newer ranges have a few instructors

ElendilTheTall

3:51 PM

did anyone see the recent video of the jackass gun instructor?

Jolenealaska

@ElendilTheTall ??

ElendilTheTall

let me see