well, I just know that in our cooking school people tend to over cook potato when trying to boils and par-cook them first. They get to soft, waterlogged and mushy.
I for some reason also missed what @rfusca said on the matter
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@rfusca yeah it will probably still be a while. First step though is selling off my current client tell. Going back to work for a company and having a more normal work week. Save money, and do the blog, and meat as many more chefs as I can to get my name out there. Then once I have the money take the big leap.
Anyway, I am out. Going to get something to eat. Have fun with the cheese dip. It got me thinking about a recipe i haven't done in a while for chili con queso. Might be my next blog post. I will just depend on if I can get the time to make a batch of chili.
@rfusca: I'm sympathetic to your desire to leave the meta question open-ended, but since you did answer it it would be nice if you were a bit more specific about your criteria for judging such questions.
@Shog9 agreed, to a certain degree..i posted a comment to yossarian along the lines. Its a discussion, its not like 'this is what I think and I'm unwilling to change or add'
@Mien good (i was just messing with ya ;) ) i'm glad you enjoyed
@TasteFive there's a public program that works with a local farmer's market and once a month a local chef will head to the market, pick out ingredients and teach a class using those, it's like 10 bucks - so it fills up fast
but Jeff's postition was that even after a compromise is reached, there should be no way that a question title containing words like "boobs" may be shown on the multicollider
I've been doing a bit of research; here in Colorado, "edible" products are rather a big deal - you can find restaurants in Denver that serve nothing but.
@Shog9 That's just the point. When the heat of the argument subsided somewhat, Jeff conceded that the EL&U people are able to handle boob jokes questions in a serious way, giving scholarly answers to them, and that he does not mind them keeping the questions on the site.
But his idea of compromise was to ask the mods to censor the titles, so nobody on the other sites sees them on the multicollider
If there's a universal loathing on SA for the topic, there's no point in trying to force it - but there needs to be clear delineation between what's allowed and what isn't.
The intersection of Federal and state law in these cases creates some confusion, since FDA regulations don't necessarily apply if you're just selling locally
@Shog9 its king of the same but not exactly, as cannabis is a federally banned substance. fifferent from the regulation on production to market requirement
So my folks (who run a dairy farm in Minnesota) are exceedingly reluctant to sell raw milk to anyone; legally, they can do so only if folks buy it on the farm, don't do so often, and it isn't advertised.
Here in Colorado, I believe you have to do the cow-share thing
But in some places, it can actually be sold on supermarket shelves
@Shog9 my only thing on the cannabis debate would be that I would vote that the title of the question would have to not contain the word. and the overall question posed would have to contain culinary value. Which unfortunately is very hard to define.
@TasteFive Well, hard to say. They're not particularly even interested in selling it, but folks will show up looking to buy, and... Puts them in an uncomfortable situation.
@Shog9 yeah , although i find it wierd that people show up to your parents farm to buy it even if they don't advertise they cary or sell it
@rumtscho agreed
raw milk here is also supposed to have to be inspected before sale. And the fact of the matter is the requirement are such that the raw milk must contain a lower bacteria count that pasterized milk in order to be sold.
@TasteFive They sell produce locally (at farmer's markets, etc.), so a lot of people know of them. And there's no problem with folks coming out to buy, say, apples or raspberries fresh.
I'm actually irked that there are no milk farms around, so I can't get raw milk. In milk producing regions, they even deliver raw milk to selected supermarkets.
I hope they don't. I'd hate to spend an hour producing a 3000 words quality answer on a question asked by a Banause who won't even notice the difference between fresh and stale coffee.
I see it more like... a philistine would prefer stale coffee over fresh coffee, a Banause wouldn't accept the fact that there is a difference even if somebody told him.
This is what makes answering on SO so interesting... Am I gonna spend half an hour pouring out details for someone who's just looking to have work done for him, or is this an ESL situation where what appears to be a troglodyte is simply missing the subtleties of polite English conversation.
Hmm... "troglodyte" might also have worked in your phrase.
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I do think it's relevant, but then again, I don't know the answer.
As you said, the simple answer worked for at least 12 people... What do you think the chances are that 12 people aren't using your particular DSL/router combos.
I thought this showed up as one of the example questions during the proposal phase, but can't recall the outcome (if there was one): is meat from animals Americans keep as pets considered "food" for the purposes of this site, assuming it's commonly consumed somewhere?
It's a toss-up for me. The underlying question in both of my examples is the same one: Should we have questions about topics that might offend certain people? Well, yeah.
At least in Canada, something like 15% of of the population uses or has used cannabis. I think you have to look at the statistics. If it's truly fringe and would offend the majority of people then maybe we shouldn't have it. I don't think weed fits the bill.
(and yes, that's actually a fact, I didn't just make up the statistic)
it doesn't mean they don't care either, you're automatically assuming they don't care. for all you know they could all be vehemently against it, or half, or none...that stat means nothing combined with your sentence
Doesn't really matter. Even 85% doesn't meet the bar, to me. Cannibalism is almost never practiced and offense to just about everybody. That's the kind of thing you'd put a taboo on. If 5% or 10% or 15% of the population are fine with it, that's more than enough.
Think of it this way: Should homosexuality be off-topic on a site about sex? That's about 10% of the population. A lot of people are still upset by it.
Yes, it's true that you might offend a lot of people, but to censor it is to step out of the realm of Q&A and into the realm of political activism.
I do agree that it should be tasteful. Questions about alcohol should be about the culinary uses of alcohol, and not how best to prepare it so you get really shit-faced.
but its a site about sex and thats sexual. This is a site about cooking and to me the drug aspect of the questions isn't relevant to the cooking aspect
Think of it in another way: there are societies around the world where at least 10% of the population condemns the sexual abuse of children. Does it mean you could use this as a reason to discuss it on a site mainly visited by westerners?
@rfusca Right, I agree with you there, if the primary focus of the question is simply getting high and the question is barely about cooking, then it should be closed as off-topic. Not because it's about drugs, but because it's off-topic. Same as the nutritional "Is X good for me?" questions.
Not only the taliban do that, the gipsies in Bulgaria do that.
and this is EU.
I don't want to say that "think of the children" is the same problem as somebody peacefully eating pot cookies, just that your argument isn't watertight.
@rumtscho I still don't understand your question. I don't think you meant to use the word "condemns". Assuming you actually meant "condones", I think you're talking about a fringe. Sure, there are some countries where the statistic is as high as 10%. In most countries it is approximately 0%.
To use a SO example... Folks post questions about doing dodgy stuff now and then: reverse-engineering, or overriding built-in protections on a library (to cite a question that was flagged yesterday). That doesn't necessarily make them off-topic - although they may get down-voted pretty heavily if not asked carefully.
So, the policy is "we take the is OK with it rate of each country around the world, and if it is above a certain limit in most of the countries, it is OK here"?
My first question to that would be, why group the data by country.
But OK, I guess that if you calculated the "is OK with" rate for the whole world population, you'd still have below 5% for child abuse and cannibalism, above 5% for drugs and pork.
Although, I don't know. Surely above 5% for cannabis, but maybe less than that for hard drugs. I don't know the statistics.
The first, most important test is whether or not the question is actually acceptable based on existing guidelines. In the specific case of the pot question that started all of this, it really wasn't.
To me the issue isn't "is weed on-topic here". It's a plant, like any other. The question is, "is weed such an explosive subject that we can't allow questions about it, even if it is on topic?" That implies a fairly high bar.