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PandaScientist
11:47 AM
Hello bhaiya!
Kavin Ishwaran
Hi ! :-)
PandaScientist
long time no see
Kavin Ishwaran
After long time :-)
PandaScientist
how're u doing?
Kavin Ishwaran
@PandaScientist I have to ask you !
@PandaScientist Just going
PandaScientist
11:49 AM
@KavinIshwaran umm...annual exams and practicals. they really engaged me. for a person who never attended school seriously, it was difficult
lol the past is gone
Oh I forgot to ask , how was ur exam?
Kavin Ishwaran
@PandaScientist Just don't pay attention to it :-)
after all you are just entering 12th
@PandaScientist Went well. :-)
PandaScientist
ye, that's what i think and keep going. today was PTM. im free from now !!!
Kavin Ishwaran
Pay more attention to JEE !
PandaScientist
@KavinIshwaran that's greaaatt. how much did u score?
Kavin Ishwaran
I which ? Mains 1 ?
PandaScientist
11:52 AM
@KavinIshwaran aiyo! ive two tests this week {coaching}
@KavinIshwaran yes yes
Kavin Ishwaran
If yes, then I have to take back my word. it is a disaster
PandaScientist
what were u referring to?
Kavin Ishwaran
I thought you were asking the recent boards
PandaScientist
boards, I heard they did something devious in physics exam?
@KavinIshwaran oh so ur preparing for the April attempt!?
Kavin Ishwaran
My mark vs percentile is just not sane. As a person who wrote on 29th
@PandaScientist No I am doing Adv
@PandaScientist It was too lengthy
I have to admit 95+ would be God's grace
PandaScientist
11:55 AM
@KavinIshwaran 29th was difficult , wasn't it?
@KavinIshwaran aah I remember seeing the news
Kavin Ishwaran
It was relatively tough. But was an easy 200+ for me. But I put unnecessary pressure on me in the exam day and it totally reduced my flow !
I was still confident but mark vs percentile for 27 and 29 simply didn't match
PandaScientist
@KavinIshwaran I seldom score 200+ in coaching tests but I guess jee is really different!
meanwhile me struggling my life with organic chem
Kavin Ishwaran
I can help if I can :-)
Between, which coaching ?
PandaScientist
fiitjee
I'll get back in a second
Kavin Ishwaran
Ok :-)
PandaScientist
12:03 PM
random kid got bullied by a dog , hafta go to save him
Kavin Ishwaran
Poor thing !
PandaScientist
This is it
@KavinIshwaran yoo bhaiya?
Kavin Ishwaran
Hi. Just got back :-)
@PandaScientist Options ?
PandaScientist
(methyl groups at o
methyl groups at p
Methyl groups at m
Ethyl group
Kavin Ishwaran
It is going to be para methyl toluene
PandaScientist
12:12 PM
Correct!
now explain plsss
Kavin Ishwaran
Now. conduct nitration on the compound I said
If you get mono nitration product, the NO2 group is going to be at any one of the four places which can be attacked, Yes ?
PandaScientist
@KavinIshwaran yes
Oh so three dinitro isomers ?
Kavin Ishwaran
In those 4 places wherever the NO2 attacks, it will give the same compound
PandaScientist
But can't the same be said about ortho toluene ?
Kavin Ishwaran
No
PandaScientist
12:17 PM
After first Nitro attack, 3 places remain ?
Kavin Ishwaran
You can just draw the structures and you will immediately see why it is the case
@PandaScientist Yes. But for now we are interested only in mono substitution
PandaScientist
Ah so In ortho case, there are still different priorities for different positions
While in para case, every position had equal priority right?
Kavin Ishwaran
No we are not finding major product.
PandaScientist
Sir?
@KavinIshwaran pls explain , can't understand what ur saying .
Kavin Ishwaran
The question says it gives only one mono substituted product in the sense, whereever yiu substitute the nitro group you will get the same product again and again
I can draw a diagram if it helps
PandaScientist
12:22 PM
Aah got it now, so that's what it meant. Without focusing on mono substituted I focused on di substitution
thank you thank you thank you :-)
Kavin Ishwaran
Yes :-)
Always Welcome :-)
Without going into the disubstitution we can get the answer in the first hint itself
PandaScientist
seems like I have to frequent this chat more often
I'll come here more ! With more qs
What r ur timings?
Kavin Ishwaran
I can always help with JEE questions if I can :-) However Maths and Physics are my strong areas.
@PandaScientist I will be here till 10:00 PM
PandaScientist
@KavinIshwaran done ✅✅✅
@KavinIshwaran ok noted !
Kavin Ishwaran
:-)
2 hours later…
PandaScientist
2:35 PM
Hello @KavinIshwaran
Im back again
Physics this time
Kavin Ishwaran
Hi !
I will try :-)
PandaScientist
Just a sec , another kid
Hello bhaiya
Kavin Ishwaran
Yes
PandaScientist
Ive a doubt in concept/ theory
Kavin Ishwaran
Yes
PandaScientist
2:40 PM
In a vertical stream line , can we use pgh like we do in finding static pressure
Kavin Ishwaran
No
PandaScientist
aap samjh gye mein kya kehna chahta hu?
Kavin Ishwaran
the pressure will be complicated
@PandaScientist Ah ? :-)
I understand your question
PandaScientist
can we do it in horizontal streamline?
Kavin Ishwaran
Yes in horizontal you can do
PandaScientist
2:43 PM
Ah thank God . Because of this misconception i answered many qs wrong
Kavin Ishwaran
In vertical streamline the pressure at any point would be zero I guess
PandaScientist
@KavinIshwaran 0? Why?
Kavin Ishwaran
Just like if your falling from a building
PandaScientist
Can I send u a qs?
Kavin Ishwaran
Yes
I dont know enough about pressure at any point in the vertical stream line
PandaScientist
2:46 PM
@KavinIshwaran but we can't do it normally like we do in static right?
Kavin Ishwaran
Yes
PandaScientist
should I send u the eqn I made so that u can check,?
Kavin Ishwaran
I am searching for my workbook :-)
Ok I found a paper
Few minutes
PandaScientist
Ok
Kavin Ishwaran
3:04 PM
@PandaScientist I am getting an answer close to 100 Joules...
PandaScientist
its 8
Kavin Ishwaran
Oh Wait...
I am getting 800.36 Joule...
Hmm... I am missing an order of 100
PandaScientist
8 is correct
There must be some unit thing
Kavin Ishwaran
All I did is F.V and integrated it over time
PandaScientist
Can u please check this
Kavin Ishwaran
3:10 PM
Ok what have you done ?
PandaScientist
Bernoulli Bernoulli and Continuity eqn
Kavin Ishwaran
I dont feel we can use bernoulli's theorem to find work done by the agent...
PandaScientist
What did u do?
Kavin Ishwaran
Shall I send my working ?
PandaScientist
Yes yes :-)
Kavin Ishwaran
3:13 PM
I will copy it neatly just 2 minutes
PandaScientist
@KavinIshwaran you integrated PdV like we do in gases?
Kavin Ishwaran
Kind of... I integrated power over time
PandaScientist
Interesting
Kavin Ishwaran
@PandaScientist It took longer than I expected :-(
PandaScientist
@KavinIshwaran don't worry I'm still here
Kavin Ishwaran
3:26 PM
Oops I forgot to multiply it by A1 in the very last step...
Please check if I have done the units correctly
PandaScientist
3:50 PM
im getting 0.8
It should be 0.08
idk what is going on
Kavin Ishwaran
In your method ?
PandaScientist
Yes
Kavin Ishwaran
I dont know :-(
I am just seeing what my method gives...
PandaScientist
Got it ,
I got the answer ,,,, :-)
Did u get it?
Kavin Ishwaran
I have to go through
I am in dinner
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