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A: Did Palestinians form a distinct ethnically/culturally/linguistically homogeneous group in pre-Mandate period?

sdsuntil 1970-ies "Palestinian" meant a "Jew living in Eretz Yisroel" "Palestinian Identity" was invented by the KGBCitation Needed in 1960-ies and implemented by Arafat thereafter (as he said himself: "I created the Palestinian people"). The simple fact that PLO was created in 1964, before the 6 da...

 
At least Wikipedia cites sources... And if Wikipedia is wrong you can fix it.
 
sds
@BrianZ: no, I cannot fix Wikipedia because (1) all edits that do not support the antisemitic narrative are rejected outright and (2) it is impossible to fix an article created explicitly to promote a political narrative without a complete re-write.
 
@BrianZ: The notion that Wikipedia can be "fixed", in opposition to the editors with claims on a topic, is risible.
 
Whatever we call them, had the population within British mandate borders been linguistically/culturally/ethnically distinct from that in Egypt or Jordan?
 
Nothing can exempt anyone from the requirement to cite sources.
 
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@RogerV the map in your question shows that at a high level there wasn't. But if you zoom in there are significant cultural differences between Arab communities inside each area (Muslim vs. Christian for instance). All borders are arbitrary when it comes to culture. You're imagining a form of objectivity that doesn't exist.
 
sds
@RogerV.: I added a specific answer to your comment
@NeMo: I added a couple of links (and will add more soon) but my message remains the same: the current information environment is similar to the in the USSR: even the most pro-Jewish sources are biased away from the actual Truth in favor of Arabs - because they feel it necessary to appear "objective".
 
Americans in California, Texas, and Massachusetts do have different cultures and origins.
 
sds
@ClintEastwood: don't exaggerate. there are differences, but they are all Americans.
 
One could bring up here the American civil war. Closer to the topic - George Antonius, writing in the late 1930s already speaks of Palestinian national aspirations. Not to diminish the Soviet role, but it would be more plausible, if the Palestinians emerged as a distinct group already as a response to British mandate. This is what @BrianZ seems to suggest.
 
cmw
Right or wrong, you can't just allege bias without really showing it. How do you know the "truth" if all your sources are "biased"?
 
Jos
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@ClintEastwood Us Dutch have many local varieties you can barely (Limburgians) or not at all (Frisians) understand. Still, for the outside world they are all Dutch and form part of the Dutch culture. Californians, Texans and Massachusettians is no different.
 
Right, so a Zionist would see all the Arabs as an indistinguishable horde but one or several groups may comprise the Palestinians.
 
Where are the sources that the KGB invented the concept of a Palestinian identity?
 
sds
@cmw: I added a section on bias detection
 

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