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12:29 AM
Posted some updates here. Still needs some work.
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A: What operating systems and devices are known to be affected by Shellshock? What patches are available?

Iszi Amazon Linux Affected Versions: (Unspecified) CVE-2014-6271 Vendor confirmation & remediation instructions: ALAS-2014-418 CVE-2014-7169, CVE-2014-7186, CVE-2014-7187 Vendor confirmation & remediation instructions: ALAS-2014-419 CVE-2014-6277, CVE-2014-6278 Indeterminate (20...

 
 
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6:19 AM
@DavidFreitag nice
 
Let's start a betting pool on the name of the soon-to-be released Xen vuln.
 
6:35 AM
@TerryChia what options have you come up with so far?
 
@RoryAlsop Dunno. I'm not exactly good at naming stuff. :P
 
@TerryChia See - I'd like it to be called Fro-Xen, then it could have a theme song as well...
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that kids know
 
@RoryAlsop Purrrrfect.
 
@Iszi heh
 
@RoryAlsop I'm starting to wonder if we should really bother with that Shellshock post I made. Seems I'm the only one maintaining it, (granted I've only given it one update) and that's not at all the intent.
 
@Iszi If it was on meta I could add the 'featured' tag and it would get highlighted.
I might get time at lunch to trawl through the shellshock tag to see what could be merged in
 
It's gotten a fair number of votes, and I guess a moderate view count. It's just that nobody seems interested in adding to the answer.
...and it's way past bedtime. G'night.
 
7:29 AM
@Iszi night
 
8:12 AM
@Iszi is the goal to have all affected products or just OSs?
 
@RоryMcCune Products might be a never ending list...
 
Reason I ask is that there's a good list on Oracles site of affected products which I could go find again, but it's more appliance style stuff
@TerryChia well yeah but if I'm worried about whether I'm at risk it's relevant...
 
8:48 AM
hmm, where should i go if i have a question thats more like: "this is my setup, i have these things enabled, is this secure? and how could it be done better?" things, concerning a windows server? o.o
 
@Lighty use a SCAP for baselining
 
@LucasKauffman a-wut?
 
you can baseline against STIGs from the DoD
they're pretty strict and cover the most crucial things
 
@LucasKauffman So much consultant buzzwords. ;)
EY has trained you well.
 
@TerryChia Well you need to keep a helicopter perspective of things. It's important to keep driving synergy. Soon we will be able to put that into the cloud and perform Big and Fast Data analytics on it. That will cause our pipeline to fill even more than before and allow us to obtain market leadership.
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8:59 AM
eh, it would more be for a hobby server at home... like, i run a server that has a minecraft application, teamviewer, remotedesktop and such running PUBICLY on ze interwebz, i use this and this and these firewall rules, what can i do to help fuel my paranoia more?" blablabla
 
@Lighty oh yea DISA isn't made for that, it's made to make things secure, not a hotpot of backdoors
 
@LucasKauffman well, i have my modem firewall really tight, and windows firewall blocks EVERYTHING except browser, java (MC), remote desktop, windows updates and Teamviewer
and the only ports open are the ports needed for the server
 
@Lighty question, why are you using teamviewer?
there's also RDP you know
which is 100000 x faster than Teamviewer
 
because of the drag n drop FTP-like function, and as backup (whitelisted to certain ID's), because the Remote Desktop is scoped to 2 IP's (one local IP, and my freinds home IP)
 
 
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10:14 AM
someone made minecraft in Excel
 
@Lighty someone has too much time on their hands!
 
@Lighty Still a better runtime than Java.
Yes, yes I'm joking.
 
@TerryChia as someone who had mroe then enough experience with MC/Java not doing what it should do, yes xD
 
Excel VBA is turing-complete right?
 
@TerryChia eh?
 
10:22 AM
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Q: What is Turing Complete?

dlinsinWhat does the expression "Turing Complete" mean? Can you give a simple explanation, without going into too many theoretical details?

 
@TerryChia ooohhh
yea, Excel VBA is really powerfull if you know how to use it right
from a simple overview to a complete "flat" database with buttons, functions and such
cool toys
 
10:33 AM
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Q: How to perform SQL injection in edit profile page?

Anandu M DasIf I leave the edit profile vulnerable to SQL Injection, How can I inject SQL commands to show all the data from my database? Imagine that the address field is vulnerable in Edit Profile page.

i dont really get what hes asking
maybe im still sleeping, i dunno
that guy has alot of good questions, but also bad ones, i like him, he likes to learn it seems
 
@Lighty he seems (to me) to be asking a generic question about extracting data from a vulnerable UPDATE SQL query
it's not really possible to answer without knowing things like "does the page return verbose errors"
 
yea, i was really confused with that he meant the profile edit page on SE xD
thats why i posted it here, i had no idea what it meant
 
@Lighty I don't think he means that, but as you say his wording ain't the best.
 
better then mine :P
 
11:16 AM
@Lighty *than
 
i wonder
if people comment on your question/awnser or whatever on this site
and they reply with a www.lmgtfy.com link/joke
is that being a d!ck? o.o
 
@Lighty generally considered so, yes
 
12:14 PM
Most boring security gathering. Ever.
So far, I haven't seen a Finn with good presentation skills
 
@Adnan But have you seen a presentation about knives or hate yet? These might be better. </stereotype>
 
@Adnan Do they have beer?
 
@Adnan guess they didn't hire strippers this year
 
@CodesInChaos nice, I'd not heard that term before but it fits well!
 
1:01 PM
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Q: Python 2 and 3 compatible method to convert bytes to integer

Terry ChiaI have a byte string similar to the following. foo = b"\x00\xff" I want to convert foo each hex value into an integer. I can use the following in Python 3. In [0]: foo[0] Out[0]: 0 In [1]: foo[1] Out[1]: 255 Python 2 requires an ord() call. In [0]: ord(foo[0]) Out[0]: 0 In [1]: ord(f...

Answers welcomed. :)
 
1:21 PM
@RоryMcCune I think products are relevant. I know I saw something about F5 appliances. Been meaning to look that up and add it in. What I did for Cisco was to just put a link to their all-in-one status page. I imagine most other appliance vendors will have similar.
 
hm, is there a rule that covers the subject of poeple being too lazy to google? i.e., the question they ask can be found in the first page of a google/bing/yahoo/whatever search?
 
@Lighty "Simple answer and free rep"
 
@Lighty Depends on how lazy they're being.
If it's ridiculously lazy, then down-vote - possibly vote to close if it can be argued as off-topic. If it's a matter of weak Google-Fu, just answer it and enjoy the rep.
Do we have a canonical "How do SSL proxies work?" question?
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Q: Passwords in plaintext?

marcomanzoniI'm doing some research on the App of my telephone operator. I started Burp Suite on my Mac in proxy mode, I opened up the App on my iPhone and started to sniff some traffic. I pressed the "login" button and this happened. My username and my password are there, in plaintext. The connection ...

 
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@Iszi
 
@raz Looks pretty good.
 
1:55 PM
heheheh....
 
raz
@Lighty Rule #32 Enjoy the little things
 
2:10 PM
@raz Many women would disagree with this rule.
 
@Simon like "ur mum"?
 
@Lighty Wanna listen to some real music? I've got a track for you.
You know what? I don't even want a "yes" or "no", listen to this now:
 
i will listen to it at home, because i'd otherwise piss off mah boss
 
2:31 PM
@Lighty You don't have headphones at work? Dayum son.
 
 
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3:47 PM
Right in time for the QOTW @TerryChia, lucky bastard.
 
Man, the US Federal government is hiring a lot of people to tweet for them...
We know we’re late to the Twitter party, but we were a little busy with, you know, rocket science. #NROInnovation
@Simon I wouldn't miss it.
 
 
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7:37 PM
@RoryAlsop this is what kids these days watch:
 
@LucasKauffman okaaaaay...
 
@RoryAlsop :P
 
still amused by that spike
but it was a one day spike - it goes away if you look at monthly views:
Quantcast is fun
 
For some reason, I automatically think less of someone who has a certificate's name in his name on LinkedIn. "John Jackson, CISSP, CISM"
 
@Adnan oh - hang on. Need to go check something... :-)
 
7:50 PM
@RoryA I don't think you have that
 
I didn't think so, but had to check :-)
I'm actually struggling to see where it has certs at all
 
It feels like linking your existance and self-worth to that thing
 
except for all the way down in that certs box
@Adnan yeah - I agree
 
I can tolarate PhD and, to some extent, MD
 
What is worse is someone like "John Jackson, CISSP, CISM, C|CISO, SSCP, CEH, etc etc etc)
it makes it look like you do nothing but collect letters
 
7:52 PM
:D
 
@Adnan for official communication with ISACA members, I always add my ISACA certs and so on, but that is for a specific reason
 
@RoryA That seems like a very reasonable case
Same goes when you're submitting some paper or something
Good to show your creds
 
So it looks like Lexie hasn't won that competition to get an extra 5k for her friend's charity, but she may actually have come 3rd. A smarter man than I also spotted the suspicious nature of upvotes on a couple of the other entries - and did some digging. Turns out they were using a vote inflation / vote exchange website...
@Adnan yeah
 
@RoryA vote exchange websites?! Maaan, I'm out of the loop. Only a couple of weeks ago I learned from @Xander that you can buy Twitter followers
 
@Adnan yeah - it was news to me too. I hadn't realised there was enough of a market for it to even be a thing
I'm obviously not yet cynical enough about the human race
 
7:58 PM
What cross-platform password manager (free if possible) do you guys suggest?
 
8:08 PM
@Simon Keepass or Lastpass
 
@Simon Personally I use a combination of: 1. my brain, and: 2. a text file called "passwords.txt"
 
@RoryAlsop It looks like KeePass has unofficial ports for other platforms, I'd like to avoid using that if possible.
@ThomasPornin Are you that much of a donut?
 
When I must travel and use passwords that I might not remember, I encrypt the passwords.txt file with GnuPG, and I decrypt it only on my own laptop, in a RAM-based filesystem, and with no swap file/partition.
 
Now it makes sense.
 
But in practice, the passwords I don't remember are the passwords that I don't type even once per year, and thus I rarely need them while travelling.
@Simon The details always matter.
 
8:11 PM
So does the size.
 
I have not seen the new Godzilla movie.
 
Did they use that quote in there?
 
The trailers for the previous Godzilla movie (mid-1990s) used extensively the "size does matter" quote.
 
Consdering that Godzilla is an Asian creation, that is kind of ironic.
 
@ThomasPornin the snippets of information you impart are building up an interesting view of you in my mind. I really hope at some point we get to meet and you are either exactly what I expect or entirely different. Both ends of the spectrum would amuse me.
@Simon nah - you're thinking of Gojira
 
8:15 PM
Oh, it originates from a Japanese series.
 
I know - I was just being silly
it happens
 
@Simon You don't know that ?
"Godzilla" is a westernized name for a giant ill-tempered lizard from the 1950s, who symbolizes the atom bomb.
 
Well then what I said about Asians is right, wat.
I'M CONFUSED, IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN
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Godzilla regularly tramples down Tokyo while taunting and then battling with a giant moth called Mothra ("Mosura" would be a closer translitteration of the Japanese).
 
@ThomasPornin One of my all time top Blue Oyster Cult songs:
 
8:23 PM
In the mid-1990s movie, Godzilla destroys New York; he no longer speaks, and is reverted to, basically, a non-sentient lizard (it still breathes fire, though).
Amusingly, that Godzilla is depicted as being the result from irradiation from the French nuclear tests in polynesia.
 
@ThomasPornin See, it's Freedom Fries all over again
 
@RoryAlsop In 1995, the newly elected French president Jacques Chirac had decided to be more thoroughly French, i.e. to piss off everybody else and in particular the English and their extended ilk (USA, Australia, New Zealand...).
So he authorized a new series of nuclear tests in the island of Mururoa.
Everybody protested, though the most lasting consequence is the Godzilla movie.
 
@ThomasPornin I only have two complaints about the French (as in general I love France) - and they are: the cuisine, and the destruction of the Rainbow Warrior
Such lovely wine, but such terrible food
Every time I go to France I consume a lot of liquid refreshment, but don't eat very much
Really upset a French colleague of mine who only likes French food - all other cuisines are sub par apparently
:-)
 
@RoryAlsop That's weird. How can you appreciate a Haute côte de Beaune if not over a confit de canard ?
 
@ThomasPornin I can appreciate pretty much any drink, it seems, in any circumstances :-)
 
8:30 PM
The French experience includes both wine and food. If you just drink the wine and despise the food, then you degrade yourself back to the "American tourist" level.
 
@ThomasPornin Péteux de broue.
 
@ThomasPornin I have tried, in so many parts of France, and in restaurants ranging from tiny little 3 table places to top end posh restaurants. Admittedly, the tiny out the way places are better, but no - can't be doing with that much faff
If I have the option of a terrine de pate de foie gras or a wee gin, I'll take the gin every time
@ThomasPornin Oh, don't worry - my appreciation of American cuisine is limited too. I like some of the steak and pulled pork classics, but I'd rather head towards Mexico for interesting food.
 
I'm hungry as nobs, ffs.
 
@Simon So am I. I'll head home and cook a tartiflette
 
@ThomasPornin Pète more broue plz.
 
8:35 PM
(it is a dish with alternating layers of potatoes, lardons and cheese -- preferably some reblochon.)
 
Yeah it looks damn good.
 
"lardons" is untranslatable. It is a bit like bacon would be if bacon could reach Enlightenment.
 
I'm probably gonna cook (lol) some corndogs so I can make it until my donut gets home.
I know you envy me.
 
@ThomasPornin lardons is what we call em here too. And they are a useful fridge item for Sunday mornings - really easy to fold into an omelette
 
@Simon It is not hard to do. In Québec, try to use some empereur or fleurmier for the cheese (occasionally you can find true reblochon but it has travelled over the Atlantic and usually suffered in the process).
You have to cut the potatoes in thin slices.
And keep the cheese crust for the top layer.
 
8:40 PM
I bet it would taste good with some spicy sauce too.
 
For the lardons, if you cannot find some, you may try to use some smoked ham, that you first fry in a pan with olive oil and mirin.
 
@Adnan yea agreed
@ThomasPornin I love tartiflette
@ThomasPornin lardons is just small pieces of bacon no?
 
@Simon Spicy sauce would not work well, but nutmeg works well.
 
@ThomasPornin I'm drooling like a god right now, sigh.
 
8:41 PM
@LucasKauffman It is taken from the same piece of the beast, but cut specially, and less salty.
 
Argh too bad, I'm going home too, lulz.
 
Also, the fat must make up less than 50% of the total
That's the hardest criterion to fulfil in America, in my experience.
Anyway, time to go.
 
byeee
I'm toying with staying on here for another half hour, or actually going to do something less useful - like play a computer game
yep - Aperture Tag time
 
 
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9:49 PM
I hate having to make long phone calls, I always end up dancing around in the apartment like a donut.
 

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