The DMZ

12:27 AM

You guys are always boring on Friday nights.

@Simon conversely the Assembly chat has been quite fun - in conjunction with a google hangout for our old Community outreach Stack Exchange person

Simon

@RoryAlsop Nice. Anyway, this means that I can finally learn some Rails so it's all good!

Rory Alsop

@Simon Well, I'm about to head to bed. Got a gig in less than 25 hours

Simon

@RoryAlsop Sweet, enjoy!

ManishEarth

Cool, I got a double rep train today :D

Rory Alsop

12:40 AM

@ManishEarth w0000t

ManishEarth

Shoulda answered the ssl question when I could, that would have made a nice round triple

TildalWave

1:26 AM

@ManishEarth You're not rep-whoring properly, you forgot to include links to your answers :P It's a new SE day and 40 votes remaining for most of us :)

ManishEarth

@TildalWave Two of my recent three on Physics

physics.stackexchange.com/questions/70839/… , physics.stackexchange.com/questions/70887/…

TildalWave

@ManishEarth links, links, links!!! we want ~~@lynks~~ ... oh wait, no, links! :)))

damnit you're faster than me remembering what's the markup for strikethrough :)

12

Q: Where does the light go when I turn off the light switch?

As above... Surely it must go somewhere? My child asked me this question and it was a difficult one to answer.

@ManishEarth ^ in the fridge, of course!

ManishEarth

@TildalWave Leave. That. Comment.

TildalWave

In the fridge, of course. Don't believe me? Turn off your lights and open your fridge! :) — TildalWave 7 secs ago

ManishEarth

Ha great :)

TildalWave

1:36 AM

@ManishEarth Your head weighting answer gave me a headache! Why do I always need to understand what's written and not just assume you're worthy of an upvote because you're cute or something?

ManishEarth

@TildalWave Because reasons

It's actually not that complicated, just omit the mathy stuff

TildalWave

@ManishEarth It's not that complicated even with math... and if you check that "funny" answer just below yours by votes (spinning the body), it actually holds a nifty little idea how to properly do that on a live person :)

ManishEarth

@TildalWave Yeah. The spinning the body one is inaccurate though

But still more accurate than many others

TildalWave

@ManishEarth it is completely inaccurate, but it could be made to work

ManishEarth

yeah

TildalWave

1:41 AM

you'd need some big enough canister with an axis it can spin of in the centre, fill it with same density liquid as the body average, lay the person in it with the head sticking out, spin away and measure centrifugal force

with the person in it, and without... the rest is math and more headaches :)

copy

@cut @paste Hey folks

TildalWave

@copy Where are you from? Germany?

ManishEarth

@TildalWave that's not enough

copy

@TildalWave Yeah

paste

@copy hi

Simon

1:43 AM

@TildalWave You know what it means when someone comes from Germany, right?

TildalWave

@ManishEarth why not? you have two measurements, one contains all the mass within the apparatus, and another one with the mass of the head outside of it

Simon

In case you don't, it means that he wrote the AMA on reddit about owning a botnet.

They're all hackers, all of them.

ManishEarth

@TildalWave Not enough. If you do the math, it depends highly on how the mass is distributed

TildalWave

@ManishEarth oh that's fairly negligible, if the person in it is straight :)

copy

@Simon Stop revealing all my secrets or I'll invade your country

ManishEarth

1:45 AM

@TildalWave Not really. linear mass density varies a lot

Simon

@copy Jesus Christ, the beeping sound made me jump. Talk about concentration.

copy

Are Canadians that jumpy?

TildalWave

@ManishEarth oh that... I hear it is much the same as same size cabbage and mine certainly feels as such :)

Simon

@copy Only in the winter.

copy

(That was a rhetorical question. Of course they are.)

Simon

1:49 AM

Oh.

TildalWave

another problem is also the blood rushing into the subject's head if you spin the subject and let the centrifugal force work its magic on his/her body... but that's the question's fault for not saying that stuff like that matters

Simon

@TildalWave Are you proud that I decided to stick to PHP?

I'm building a web application from scratch in PHP

woohoo

tylerl

This is a big bucket of WTF:

3

Q: Privacy risk in using Google APIs

If I use JQuery from Google APIs: http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.10.1/jquery.min.js Is there a privacy risk to my site? E.g. does this link enable Google to read my pages, track my site usage, etc.?

privacy google

TildalWave

@Simon All the PHP code I've ever written in stored somewhere on Stack Exchange

Simon

@TildalWave Really? :o

TildalWave

1:53 AM

@Simon Yup, I've never written anything in it. I did code reviews on PHP projects and similar, but I personally never touch it otherwise. Not because I don't like it, but because I have other dev environments setup and they've so far been more than enough

Simon

Oh ok.

I'm doing good guys, so far I created the header/footer files.

TildalWave

@tylerl I agree. But funny enough, we had another question today that was closed as duplicate of the one you link to :)

Simon

And spent 10 minutes to find the right color for my footer. I suck.

TildalWave

@Simon Is it not long since you've been coloring books? :P

Simon

@TildalWave It's like if it was yesterday.

TildalWave

1:58 AM

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Q: When a browser extension or user script pulls a JS file from Google's CDN, how does this compromise the user's privacy in terms of Google's reach?

The context from which my question has arisen is this user script which locally removes ads from Ixquick.com, which is an anonymizing 'proxy' search engine that gives the results from Google's index while not giving any info of yours to Google at the same time. But the script makes use of Google...

web-browser privacy javascript google browser-extensions

no comment :))

tylerl

@TildalWave Sweet jesus it's the exact. same. question.

it's difficult to imagine the sort of fundamental confusion that would lead to even thinking that was a reasonable question, let alone taking the time to ask it.

Simon

Why doing CSS sucks so much?

TildalWave

@tylerl To me, more frustrating is that I've taken the time to answer it. And seeing how well I'm doing last few days with my long answers that nobody cares to read, I think I need to rethink my approach LOL

@Simon because you don't know what you want, you have problems how things will look like with various settings, and because WYSIWYG is a joke

Simon

@TildalWave I'm gonna be honest: I thought it was a pain to scroll down because of how big it was.

@TildalWave BLABLABLA

TildalWave

@Simon you're pronouncing the last S in CSS wrong!

@Simon there, better?

Simon

2:06 AM

It still sucks.

Simon

2:21 AM

Any of you know CSS standards?

Scott Pack

@Simon What would you know anyway? You're Canadian not French. Besides, if matinée means morning why are they always in the afternoon?

Simon

Like if I use <ol> tag to structure a login form, is that right?

@ScottPack Thing is I am French Canadian. The exact translation would be forenoon.

copy

@Simon Nobody knows, but it probably doesn't matter

Scott Pack

@Simon Can it get any worse?

Simon

@ScottPack Ya, I guess I could be into some weird religion.

@copy Well, I wanna do it right because I'd add the source code in my portfolio. Anyway, I'd most-likely apply on a backend job than frontend.

Scott Pack

2:24 AM

Weird like Scientology or weird like Zombie Worship?

Because one of those is real popular in the South and they may take umbrage.

Simon

@ScottPack Scientology? I've heard about it but I refuse to know more about it.

Scott Pack

TildalWave

@Simon ol is "ordered list", not sure it applies with login forms... use ul

copy

@Simon As I said, nobody can give a half-decent objective answer to that. If it's a tradeoff between "Keep it simple, stupid" and "semantic html", I tend towards the former

Simon

@TildalWave That's what I went for. Thanks.

Scott Pack

2:29 AM

@TildalWave unordered list?

TildalWave

@ScottPack yup

Simon

@copy Yeah, I'll keep it simple.

I totally didn't use a ruler because I thought it wasn't perfectly centered.

TildalWave

@copy ♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫ Save your K.I.S.S.es for me ♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫ :)

copy

Nice song

Terry Chia

4:20 AM

@Simon You should see the bunch of crap I have on my GitHub page. ;)

Simon

@TerryChia Is it real crap though? ^^

Terry Chia

@Simon It's close enough. :)

Simon

Hehe

Crap. I'm gonna have to rewrite this whole DB-handling class to support PDO.

Oh well, time to go to bed, see ya.

Terry Chia

8:19 AM

I'm redoing Project Euler again. It's amazing how much less I struggled with the problems compared to a few years ago.

Lucas Kauffman

9:24 AM

morning lads

Rory Alsop

morning

it's too sunny again

:-(

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop how can it be too sunny?

Rory Alsop

@LucasKauffman Sunny makes all of the hot;I am Scottish

Q.E.D

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop didn't you live in Australia for a while :P?

Rory Alsop

@LucasKauffman yarr

Only a third of that was in stupidly hot areas, the rest was Western Australia (nice weather) and Melbourne (rainy)

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heh

suitable for work, despite the name

ManishEarth

10:34 AM

@RoryAlsop LOL

Adnan

3:30 PM

@RoryAlsop This is hitting on a sore spot.

Rory McCune

@Adnan ya want to get your romantic interests involved in security, that way many interesting conversations can be had :)

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oh dear that news anchor needs a lesson in when to thing before reading

Adnan

@RoryMcCune You say it as if you don't know how difficult it is.

Rory McCune

@Adnan well there is a bit of a dearth of women in IT Sec I will admit. I managed it though. Got my missus her first job in IT then later cross-trained her into security :)

Adnan

3:57 PM

@RoryMcCune Ahaa! So the trick isn't finding someone in IT Sec, it's getting someone you already know into IT Sec.

paste

That's what copy did on me.

Adnan

7:13 PM

Today I've lost 50 rep because a user was removed. That loss has set me back behind the Small Bear.

News from yesterday: Black bear attacks man in Canada

> Coincidence, I Think NOT!

copy

7:30 PM

Shouldn't it be Man attacks black bear in Finland?

Griffin

7:42 PM

Fuck I hate shots.

Adnan

@copy You lost me

@Griffin Why? They're great.

copy

@Adnan I lost myself, too

Adnan

@copy Good thing we found each others

Griffin

8:18 PM

I hate them because I pass out afterwards.

Just the thought of willingly allowing someone to put a metal tube inside of me and then pour a modified version of the thing that I'm afraid of into me just blehh

copy

Sounds like you're drinking too much

Griffin

No

Just dislike needles

Adnan

@Griffin Ahaaaa.. I thought you meant alcoholic shots.

@Griffin But yeah, I agree with you. Vaccines suck! Having Hepatitis, Polio, HPV, or Rabies is much cooler.

Griffin

8:40 PM

Hep A

Is the one I need.

And I know they're necessary but that doesn't mean I like it.

AviD

@RoryAlsop if you want to know what makes the Doktor's creepiness factor go up orders of magnitude...

its your lips. Definitely the lips.

Adnan

Has anybody used CLP or normal gun oil to lubricate bike parts?

AviD

bikes? no. But I hear that @LucasKauffman uses that gun oil to lubricate... other parts.

Adnan

@AviD Ooh, I want to hear more about that.

AviD

youd have to ask @LucasKauffman.

Adnan

8:50 PM

I have several bottles of varying quality gun oil and it's time to lube my bike. I don't really fancy buying more oil, and I've used my gun oil to lube pretty much everything around the house

AviD

@Adnan oy, that brings some horrifying - yet amusing - images to mind.

TildalWave

9:06 PM

@Adnan if that's the one to clean the rust off then yes you can use it

for the chain tho it's usually suggested you use the teflon & silicone lubricant

Adnan

@TildalWave Yup, I have both kinds (petroleum-based and silicon-based). So normal oil for parts, and silicon oil for chains.

TildalWave

@Adnan that's how I do it yes... old farts will tell you you'd want some way thicker stuff on other parts, but honestly that'll only make you all dirty using it

Adnan

@Tildal Another question. A couple of days ago I bought a new mountain-friendly bike. Bike thieves are very active in my city, do you think I should uglify it?

TildalWave

@Adnan just make it unique looking... no need it's ugly

AviD

9:22 PM

@TildalWave oh now youre just starwhoring with lines like that.

Adnan

@TildalWave I've had two bikes stolen before (both properly locked). My current one hasn't been stolen yet because it looks so unattractive (rust on the frame, mud everywhere, etc.). I'm afraid the new one will face the same fate if I don't uglify it like my current cruising bike.

TildalWave

@Adnan Look if they really wanna steal it they will, I had my basement broken into once just so they could get my bike. Ideally I'd say it's best to have two, one for city trips that's nothing special and you wouldn't be too upset if it''s stolen, and another one you have for longer rides that I keep in the inner hallway since that break-in.

Adnan

@TildalWave I think that's exactly what I'll be doing.

TildalWave

@Adnan And I'm not going for uglification either, everybody does that then you wonder which bike is yours after a few beers LOL... I make it "unique looking" so the casual thieves avoid it not to be too conspicuous ;)

Gilles

9:37 PM

0

Q: Is there any DLP solution for linux?

I'm looking for a DLP (Data Leak Prevention) solution for linux environments. I know OpenDLP, but it's only a way to Prevent Clear-text file, and source codes from malicious access. There are lots of good solutions from Symantec, McAfee, Sophos and etc , But They all work with Windows and there's...

linux security

Adnan

@TildalWave Ahaaa.. just like that Hello Kitty car.

Nobody would really steal it as the whole town knows it's that girl's car.

TildalWave

10:02 PM

@Adnan oh I'd avoid spray painting it in pink :) one interestingly looking bike I've seen used a triangular metallic plate mounted in the frame with a hand painted giant cock stretching from the seat to the front on each side, made everyone laugh... no way anyone's gonna steal that without being rather obvious :))

TildalWave

10:13 PM

OMG me totally want this ^

OK one more...

Adnan

@TildalWave Count me out

TildalWave

0

A: Can i get 100% protection from virus by using Deep Freeze?

Darn, why over think a simple question. Yes deep freeze does offer some protection but like anything else it is subject to filtration. So using a good antivirus & antimalware software with deep freeze will offer adequate protection for most computers.

If I wasn't in a better mood, I'd totally wanna smack this one's gob

Simon

11:47 PM

@D3C4FF @Adnan @RoryAlsop Have you seen that your answers in the smudge attack post have been featured in an article of LifeHacker? Here's the link: lifehacker.com/…

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