The DMZ - 2013-10-11 (page 1 of 3)

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12:47 AM

@Xander That's weird. It isn't the first time i bashed Steve Gibson in an answer.

@TerryChia Yeah, and they came in such rapid fire succession that I wonder if there isn't some sort of a call to arms somewhere out on the interwebs. Now that it's protected, it should be safe from further nonsense.

@Adnan 205 flag count on main site.

@Xander Indeed.

Question for all the pen testers in the room (@RoryM, @LucasKauffman): I am currently using ssh -D together with tsocks to perform an ssh pivot on a compromised machine. Are there any other interesting/better techniques that I should be aware of?

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3:03 AM

@Adnan I'm sorry, what???

I'm getting some crosstalk here?

4:03 AM

If the celestial sphere were mapped to the Earth's surface, astronomy would get a LOT easier; you'd just need a magnifying glass.

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5:32 AM

@TerryChia I've mostly used ssh, stunnel, http proxy (if they are deployed) and DNS tunneling

6:12 AM

Man, there is so much that I've wanted to say about this idea since I first heard about it. Finally I have a place where I can write it that people will actually read.

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A: Could SQRL really be as secure as they say?

Overall, the protocol does not appear to increase security over existing technology. If you are looking for the best way to protect your identity online, this is without question not it. But let's go over the pros and cons: Advantages It's impossible to "share" a password in the narrow sense th...

...therfore, the 3-page essay

6:29 AM

@tylerl +1

Also, congrats on beating @Hendrik.

6:41 AM

@TerryChia Does he still use this site? I thought he'd left. security.stackexchange.com/users/665/…

@tylerl He still does mod stuff apparently, but answers have slowed.

6:54 AM

@tylerl TL;DR

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7:56 AM

@Tildal - yay, you're on xkcd

@RoryAlsop haha

@Randall didnt mention anything about icons, though...

he has a nice big picture of a Tilde

and I'm assuming that asteroid called Munroe is named after him, rather than Marilyn?

I dont see any munroe?

in the laptop frame - 4942 Munroe

oh duh

8:27 AM

hey wait what

people in here said nice things about me

that's... unusual

@kalina so's your face.

better now?

my face isn't unusual, you can't attempt to insult me with things I know not to be true

8:41 AM

boobies

@LucasKauffman your mom

@LucasKauffman @kalina knows that's not true.

@AviD That she has boobies? Of course not she's a pony

ponies \o/

gni?

@Adnan 59? why this question?

9:33 AM

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10:27 AM

@Lucas Extended the labs?

@M'vy Just checking on something. Thanks for your help, by the way.

k

@M'vy Why is everybody turning into teenage girls these days?!

With your "k"s and "lol"s

I need a crash course on the subject.

On a totally different topic, I think that Subway is the single greatest thing that ever happened to the fast food industry.

@Adnan I resent this

like, seriously hate you

and might actually set fire to you and everybody you've ever known or loved

@Adnan just a shorthand I gained because of chats...

@kalina Joke's on you, I have nobody to love!

:(

10:31 AM

@Adnan also, "lol" is a decade older than "teenage girls"

And people usually can't read whole words anyway :P

Take credit for your own mistakes

@kalina But why do you hate me? I'm really nice! You see, I'm smiling in my 15 year old avatar picture and I'm holding a trophy.

That's like cool and chill, yo!

Or whatever people your age say.

your comprehension of modern society is flawed, I would never say "that's like cool and chill, yo!"

I would, in fact, say die in a fire.

@kalina You can't generalised your model to the modern society.

Thought this does not mean you might be wrong about the comprehension being flawed

10:36 AM

@kalina Last night somebody told me that I need to be less condescending. I think she might be right. I give the vibe of being an asshole.

if modern society is in fact like that, I am unique amongst people my age

@kalina and that's why I loved you since the first time I saw you at that Starbucks in 2011

You were breathtakingly beautiful and enchanting

I know

but we've never met

sweet

@M'vy Indeed she is.

10:38 AM

I would remember meeting somebody like you

@M'vy She took my heart with one touch.

Okay, now that I said nice/creepy/cheesy things. Do you still hate me, @Kalina?

primarily because you would have been the breaking point between me growing up to be fire obsessed and growing up to be a psychopathic cold blooded mass murdering assassin who would mow down a room full of civilians to kill just one man

@kalina And the accent, my accent is quite memorable.

Yaaay! 5C (41F) and the sun shining. Fantastic!

...

that's not a "yay" moment

that's still fucking freezing

@kalina It is, you can see the sun.

It will be disappearing for the next 5-6 months!

10:42 AM

5°C? It's still hot

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@M'vy Give it a couple of months. It'll be -32C (-25F)

Any documentation on the weather in the The North in GoT? @Terry @Lucas

That's cold :P

anything below 15°C is unacceptably cold

@Adnan well, winter IS coming, you know.

10:48 AM

BONK

I think you should all know that on the 23rd of November, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic season 4 is starting

It's a very important day for everypony.

@kalina I considered flagging that as offensive, but then I remembered that that's how this started in the first place. ;-)

This chap wants MOARRR encryption

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Q: Increasing website data security level

Could it be more secured using the "HTTPS" protocol for website data security and at the same time using another encryption algorithm (Elgamal) as well? I know "HTTPS" has the same function as "Elgamal" and could be used alone, but I found according to the following links that it could be attack...

@AviD MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

once all of you security minions learn the correct use of the flag system, my work here will be done, and I will be able to move on

@lynks Hash your hashes, encrypt your encryption. Then encrypt your hashes and hash your encryption. Just to be safe.

10:55 AM

haha, I knew it! all this ponytalk is just trolling. I KNEW there was no way you were really into MLP so hard...

;-)

@AviD MLP is awesome

there are bronies in the dmz?

best MLP I ever saw was a physics presentation, analyzing the physics in the MLP universe. THAT was awesome.

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@lynks no, no bronies here

there is a pegasister though and she's outnumbered and outgunned

I just created an account on your dirty security site

11:00 AM

@kalina That's star-worthy.

@lynks Oh no, please stay. You're one of the only ones keeping us sane here.

@kalina :O security.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/14195

@kalina "pegasister"?? Really, thats the female version of bronie?

I take back everything negative I ever said, that is all kinds of awesome.

@AviD Do you guys have irregular plurals or "broken" plurals?

what do you mean?

Oh, never mind. According to Wikipedia, you do.

In linguistics, a broken plural (or internal plural) is an irregular plural form of a noun or adjective found in the Semitic languages and other Afroasiatic languages such as Berber. Broken plurals are formed by changing the pattern of consonants and vowels inside the singular form. They contrast with sound plurals (or external plurals), which are formed by adding a suffix. It is distinct from Germanic umlaut, a form of vowel mutation found in Germanic languages. While the phenomenon is known from several Semitic languages, nowhere has it become as productive as in Arabic. Arabic In Arab...

@AviD that's the term for out-of-target-demographic female fans of MLP, yeah

11:06 AM

ah. thought you meant "you guys" referring to bronies. I was getting ready to kneecap you.

At least I'm honest in my profile

kalina, Earth

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@kalina wait, why are you "out-of-target-demographic"?

@AviD I'm older than 12

keep up

@kalina Are you, though?

@kalina sorry, I havent been stalking you.

11:07 AM

@Adnan really? are we doing this?

at least, thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.

brb flagging all of @Adnan's posts as spam

@kalina he was hoping you would say that.

@kalina LOL

I AM SO HARDCORE I GOT THE MARSHALL BADGE IN ONE DAY

Thanks @Adnan!

@kalina All right all right, you have a headache. FINE!

@kalina You're welcome, sweetie.

11:09 AM

@Adnan I've never used the headache excuse

I normally just tell the truth

@kalina you have just been accepted into the very close-knight club known as the DMZ.

like "you smell"

@kalina +1

or "I don't want your aids"

@kalina you know he only heard the first 4 words....

11:09 AM

@kalina of lavender, cigar, and rainbows.

@AviD Nah, that's normally what @Simon is looking for (the French Simon)

brb, editing evidence of @Adnan's penis obsession into his posts

@kalina No need to, it's widely known.

@kalina i dont think you need to edit much.

looking at your questions on this site, it's like an unholy attack of the TLA

@kalina I don't know what is TLA.

11:12 AM

@Adnan three letter acronym

haha, thats funny.

@kalina TML

3 meaningless letters....

@AviD Tickle my liver?

@AviD TML actually means "Thank me later"

no, "3 meaningless letters"

@kalina Now you're using my pickup lines.

11:14 AM

@Adnan I don't use pickup lines

@Adnan her pickup line is: "Yes."

@kalina Yeah yeah, your mommy sets up play dates.

@AviD That only works if the girl is hot.

Or in @Simon's case, if she's a girl.

My family situation is... complicated

@Adnan or the guy is @Simon.

In that I haven't spoken to them for years

so I doubt it

11:16 AM

@kalina Aww, you must be very mysterious and badass.

@kalina they are upset about the whole pony thing....? ;-)

@AviD actually they were quite upset about my drug use

and tried to tell me how to live my life

so I kindly pointed out that if I were to take advice from my mother

I'd be pregnant already, married 3 times by the time I'm 25, and generally retarded

which she did not react to very well at all

whoa. sorry, didnt mean to pry.

@kalina It's just like reading a psychology book on teenage girls. Word by word.

If I had enough money I'd pay you to be on one of my studies.

@Adnan hey, dont harsh the moment, dude.

11:17 AM

you couldn't afford me

@AviD Really? Can't you see it?

@kalina I'm pretty sure I have $10

@kalina obviously feels very close to use random anonymous internet people. or for whatever reason, she is sharing. The internet should be nicer about this.

@AviD its ok, one day, when he leasts expects it, as everything in his world has gone wrong, I will be there with the fire and epicly large and devilish grin that ends it all

@AviD actually I don't care, it was one of the best things I ever did

@kalina yeah, that and ponies dont really jibe....

I am proud of that particular moment of my life

11:19 AM

@kalina Jokes aside, I feel a little proud of you as well.

as long as you never expect me to be proud of you, because, like... never going to happen

@kalina oh, @Adnan doesnt expect that from anybody anymore.

@kalina You know nothing about me, I expect nothing from you.

Just like I expect nothing from @Simon (the French one)

I just gained 2 rep on your site. It's mine now. No power in the 'verse can stop me.

Jun 16 at 13:26, by AviD

Everyone here would do well to remember the 1st rule of StackExchange: BE NICE.

@kalina 50% thanks to me

11:21 AM

@Adnan awww you approved it, you must have been feeling guilty about being... you

@AviD See what happens when you become nice for 1 second? They hit you back.

Adnan feeling guilty about being himself? NEVAR!

@Adnan you let your guard down, the opportunity was too enticing to back away from

Adnan takes pride in being mean. One day he may even reach ScottPack levels. His dearest ambition, that.

@Adnan cmaaan, thats not unnice.

11:23 AM

at least I didn't set fire to you.

Now I'm reading some questions at parenting.stackexchange.com

I need to learn how to talk to @kalina

(come on, that should be an easy "Snaaaap" back, go ahead, take it)

nope, I'll get more satisfaction from leaving you waiting

@kalina So, that's what you're into.

totally, convince a guy you're going to sleep with them, don't. Hilarity ensues

@kalina Do people fall for that?

11:29 AM

@Adnan pretty much every single guy on the planet with 99% success rate, yeah

It's a guaranteed method of getting bad things said about/to you though

my favourite is obviously being called a slut for not sleeping with somebody.

that always makes me laugh

/cc @Adnan ^

this is a wellknown effect.

11:31 AM

you should all watch that video

just so there is a bit more bridge in the dmz

@kalina Do you get off of people calling crazy/psycho? Do you think of it as if "Yeah, I'm different. Fuck you, robots!".

@kalina I think there is already too much bridge here.

Lunchtime.

@kalina Also, who's the lowlife who would call a girl "slut" for not sleeping with him?

@Adnan yes, well I wouldn't say "get off", but it does reaffirm my unique nature

@Adnan most guys under the age of 20 with minimal education/intelligence?

@kalina is that the current generations version of rickroll?

11:32 AM

@kalina I don't usually say this, but that's disgusting.

@AviD yeah

@Adnan well, c'est la vie

but only on fridays

@Blem only on Fridays, yeah

@kalina so maybe stop hanging out with little kids, and meet some real men?

okay, wait, thats sounded skeezy.

yes it did

11:33 AM

not the way I meant it.

so you say

heh.

@AviD Just add "baby" to the end of that.

You'll be arrested in no time.

Maybe flex your biceps a bit when you say it.

Yeah, that's a recipe for some jail time.

For the record, I never refer to myself as a "real man", in fact I often point out that I explicitly exclude myself from the group known as "regular men".

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@David Apparently, they use the same substance in condoms as well.

11:45 AM

@Adnan are you killing crickets?

imgur.com/gallery/ZrYHX

because you're all geeks and thus interested in this stuff

@kalina that is very cool.

OH MY

is your summer tag cleanup still on going?

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Q: Summer of Tag Cleanup Project

This idea has been floating about The DMZ for some time now. I think we need a Summer of Tag Cleanup project... I think this is a great idea so here is a meta post to start the ball rolling. I know it's not really summer anymore but hell, I can't think of a catchier name..... For starters,...

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this thing

because... burnination is like my superpower

although super user hated me for joining in theirs

due to the moderators having to action all of the flags I was raising

12:14 PM

somebody just said to me

"You know, you're as old as I was when I was your age"

O_O

how do you even respond to that

@kalina I actually work with graphene on occasion. Theoretically, not experimentally

@kalina "Thanks. Would you like to go for a walk? Just you, by yourself."

The microcapacitor thing is overpopularized, there are many major hurdles before they can be used in cellphones.

Namely; anything that charges this fast will also discharge at the same speed

well like everything it's easy to state the benefits without the list of hurdles that need to be overcome first

Yeah, but in this case the hurdles are bigger than the breakthrough. We already know how to make supercapacitors (just not cheaply), they haven't been used yet because so far they're useless for charging phones

12:24 PM

mmmm Python script @Polynomial

@Adnan easier than telling him to write a C# app

'cos that's what I'd really do

well, actually I'd write a LinqPad script

but same difference

btw, did anyone catch my Steam privesc this morning?

@Polynomial Well, his LinkedIn says

> Programming. . . . . . . . . , C#, Exchange Web Services, SQL Server, DKIM, DMARC

@Polynomial link?

codeinsecurity.wordpress.com/2013/10/11/… and (more importantly) codeinsecurity.wordpress.com/2013/10/11/…

@makerofthings7 And yes, we're talking about you. Not behind your back.

12:26 PM

first post is a bit of a clusterfuck so make sure you read the second one

@Polynomial Nice!

it's sat at the top of /r/netsec right now, so that's pretty awesome :P

@Polynomial That's actually a pretty sick bug.

Should have sold it to ZDI or something.

yeah, it was fun

@Polynomial thanks for the links!

12:35 PM

@Polynomial Oh, thanks for that pefile module by the way. Handy one to add into my toolkit.

np

yeah, it's useful

Also, long (4 days) weekends woooooo!

@TerryChia I hate you!

hacks

exploits

reporting you to the FBI as the dread pirate roberts

@Polynomial Valve's response was pretty frustrating. Are you gonna resubmit the report to the security@ link mentioned on reddit?

12:39 PM

I want a long weekend as well

@Adnan Migrate to Singapore.

@TerryChia Yeah, but I'm technically working right now (lunch break) so I'll do it tonight

@kalina It's like you're not already an FBI agent who's trying to lure pedo bronies.

@Adnan oh yeah, that's Special Agent Kalina of the P.O.N.I.E.S. project, to you.

@TerryChia Set the national AC to 17C and I'll be there in a second.

12:41 PM

working out of a field office in Equestria

@kalina Always knew your special. The first moment I laid eyes on you in that Starbucks.

what is it with you and starbucks?

@kalina We don't have Starbucks in Finland :(

We only have MacDonald's with amazingly attractive female workers.

no wonder you're calling freezing temperatures 'warm'

Seriously, if you ever come to Finland, that's probably the first thing you'd notice. Whenever you go into a MacDonald's, the first thing on your mind would be when you see one of the workers there "What the hell are you doing here? Go become a model or something".

But, anyway, I don't recommend coming here unless you're a metalhead.

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That can't be more true.

See someone in the bus "Eewwww.. stranger!!!"

Same person invites to a naked sauna "Of course, when and where?"

12:46 PM

everything you need to know about finland (warning some are NSFW) satwcomic.com/the-world/finland

@RoryMcCune Oh yeah! The good ol' wife-carrying sport.

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@Ad

But, wait a second! A real Finn marrying a Swede!! ÖÖÖ Blasphemy!

@Adnan in Curitiba (south of Brazil) people don´t talk to strangers, too... actually, we even don´t talk to the ones we know!

@woliveirajr Do they go to naked sauna and practice BDSM with them?

If not, then it's not the same.

Yup, mentioning Vihta outside of Finland always brings silence to any room.

12:55 PM

@Adnan :) no, here things are boring hahahahahaha
But I really would love to live there in the next encarnation

-> incarnation

Now, please, @kalina and @woliveirajr, become friends.

@Adnan no

@kalina You have a lot in common to talk about. Namely, incarnation.

@kalina @Adnan ops, I must have missed something

no, @Adnan is just being random

12:59 PM

@woliveirajr Our comrade @kalina is a great believer in the teaching of the great Buddha. You should ask her for her email to talk to her about this a bit more.

She's very enthusiastic about the subject.

I am actually completely anti-religion

I find it hilarious that millions of people get all spiritual about fictional texts

Don't worry, @woliveirajr, she always says funny things like that.

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