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12:30 AM
@Gilles The question in rev 1 is not "FAQ-compliant". It very much appeared to be looking for an attack technique from an arbitrary, and potentially malicious, offensive standpoint. Perhaps that's just due to poor wording on the OP's part, and that's why it was eventually edited and re-opened.
 
@Iszi On what basis would this question be closed? What meta discussion concludes that a question like this is off-topic?
 
@Gilles Without the new context, it could very well be perceived as being intended to help facilitate a bypass of a hotel or other hotspot's registration portal to gain free or otherwise unauthorized network access.
As @ThomasPornin said, the color of the hat is primarily determined by the intents of its wearer.
 
12:47 AM
@Iszi which you have no way to know
 
@HendrikBrummermann done
 
@Gilles No way except for inference from how they present their inquiry, unfortunately. Again, this is why the question was eventually edited and re-opened.
 
@Iszi no, it's still closed
 
@Gilles Looks open from here. According to the edit history, since mid-June last year.
 
@Gilles I have upvoted your meta post - laid out like that I definitely approve. I need to go and check to see the questions we closed for being black hat - from memory they did always seem to be around intent, or general crapness (ie I want to hack into someone's account - how can I do it"
 
12:51 AM
@Iszi security.stackexchange.com/questions/12762/… is the question I pinged you about, because you voted to close it
@RoryAlsop what I'd especially like to know is if there's content that isn't crap but should be kept out
e.g. someone trying to release a 0day on Sec.SE
 
@Gilles That one is still closed, yes. But I was talking about the "bypassing captive portal" thread more recently.
 
Above I posted a few examples of comments containing “black hat” that more or less said a question that was too black hat for the site
 
@Gilles That absolutely should stay out.
Arguably, any discussion about non-public un-patched vulnerabilities (whether the vendor has supposedly been notified or not) should be kept off.
 
@Iszi that sounds reasonable, as long as it isn't carried out too far
if someone is asking for help looking for a vulnerability, we wouldn't want to put a blanket ban
e.g. “How do I improve my fuzzing program?”
 
@Gilles In short, if the vulnerability can't be found in the NVD, Secunia, etc., any discussion regarding its details or methods of exploit doesn't belong here.
@Gilles That's very different from discussion about an actual 0-day.
 
1:36 AM
Good morning folks.
 
 
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2:45 AM
@Polynomial Love your comment in this.
 
 
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5:56 AM
Damn, I just realised my new usb wireless adapter doesn't have linux drivers...
Has anyone gotten the Alfa AWUS036NHA to work with BT5R2?
 
 
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10:42 AM
@TerryChia How's this for coincidence? I have an Alpha AWUS036NHA in my hand :P
works fine on Debian 6 and Windows
never tried on BT5
@TerryChia Hehe, he fails the turing test :P
 
@Polynomial Hah, I got mine in my Wifi Pineapple bundle. Trying to get it to work with BT5R2 in a VM now. I keep getting some driver error.
Works great on Windows out of the box though.
 
 
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12:17 PM
Pretty dead here tonight.
 
 
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1:44 PM
The vast majority of chatters are either UCT or UCT+5
 
 
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4:38 PM
hello. new to dmz. it's like irc with css!
for the last hour or more, this has been what www.google.com returns:


<html>
<body>
<!-- default -->
</body>
</html>
anyone know why?
err. seems only Google Chrome is delivering that blank page. I'll hold my comments till I sort this out.
 
5:10 PM
the old chrome compression bug I guess
 
5:36 PM
herro
it seems security.SE is 404'ing
guess someone borked stackexchange
or they are upgrading
 
Someone came in hung over and tripped over the wrong cable.
 
Right. Now To Ironing!
 
 
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7:30 PM
@Iszi Almost any practical security question can be perceived as "how can I break this?" or as "how could someone else break into my system?"
@Iszi "The question has no use for a white-hat." I disagree. In fact, I don't think there is anything that a "white hat" should ignore. He doesn't have to know everything, but nothing should be forbidden.
Consider this question: how do I protect my Web app against SQL injection?
I could very well be a blackhat question.
Given the answer: the best approach is to use (...) a blackhat might read that as: any site that does not use this approach might be vulnerable, I will try to break these.
Given the answer: filtering " does not work, a blackhat might think: let's attack websites which just filter "
 

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