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4:14 AM
I just love classical music. #2 on this list of (i'm told) free classical downloads is "Air on the G String" by Johann Sebastian Bach. I didn't know such things existed in those times! gardnermuseum.org/music/listen/music_library?filter=composer
 
4:24 AM
Wow. Never had cause to use DownThemAll before, but now I see it's just plain awesome!
Now powering through the 258 free music downloads on that page. I wonder if they're still passing through my antivirus?
 
 
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7:33 AM
hum... Depends on your antivirus.
By the way, I'm not sure AV can detect virus embedded in music files.
unless explicitly told
or maybe if the executable code is just paste raw into it
 
@Ninefingers I like the dichotomy :-)
@ScottPack erm....okay
@Mvy but the good thing is that for almost every case it doesn't need to care
as long as you don't execute music files:-)
and 'Mornin/Afternoon/Evenin' and all that
 
8:14 AM
@RoryAlsop the problem would be an exploit in the music player
 
8:28 AM
ah - but it isn't like pdf exploits where the problem is that the pdf is allowed to contain macros. a music file (wav, mp3 etc) should not be allowed to have macros
without an expectation of executable instructions, your vulnerability is restricted to things like buffer overflows etc
 
 
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10:06 AM
@D.W - congrats on your 10k privileges:-)
 
10:17 AM
+1
 
11:03 AM
afternoon
 
11:31 AM
@RoryAlsop Aren't you still doing pentesting?
+2, you and one other
 
12:25 PM
@ScottPack yes - I was just implying your statement was something scurrilous:-)
@GrahamLee how do? Did you have a look at the town hall summary
god knows how difficult an election would be for a big site - imagine 30 candidates all with out of sync chat
 
@RoryAlsop Oo...scurrilous....well played.
@RoryAlsop No kidding
How to the voter tallies look so far?
 
heh - so far, of all those who have visited the election page, a third have voted
I wonder if that is typical
 
wow
I was really surprised at how quickly we started racking those things up yesterday.
 
but admittedly, out of the wider pool who are eligible to vote only about 15% have even visited the page which means under 6% of possibles have actually voted
 
ah
So one could argue that those who are interested in the election, are properly interested.
 
12:31 PM
@RoryAlsop I haven't read the town hall chat log yet.
I take it stay away candidates aren't very popular ;)
 
The digest hasn't been posted yet anyhow.
This is why I don't much care for working all the way until it's time to leave. Now I'm having trouble remembering what I left off on last night.
 
@GrahamLee LOL - yeah we all just got together to plan your downfall :-)
 
@RoryAlsop exnay on the overthrow-ay!
 
@ScottPack ahhhh - brain carried out init-0 before keyboard, eh?
@ScottPack :-)
 
@RoryAlsop Pretty much
 
12:37 PM
Hmmm - I might need to just use a mask avatar - the pic doesn't work so well in small version
 
@RoryAlsop I voted for people who weren't me anyway.
 
@GrahamLee I think that is what you are supposed to do :-)
oooohhh - look at this
 
where is the transcript?
got it
 
(we asked @RebeccaChernoff to delete all the bad things we said about you :-)
 
well, I've seen the chat room. Not read back on the transcript. I take it I should answer the starred questions…
 
12:52 PM
aye - I reckon:-)
 
1:42 PM
Oh. Good morning @Graham. We did miss you yesterday.
 
2:25 PM
yeah, I said to Rebecca I couldn't make that time though.
it's hard to schedule THE ENTIRE INTERNET to have a chat session.
 
Yes, we need more cats for this.
 
meow
 
2:41 PM
@D.W., congratulations.
I wonder if that works for someone who is not a chat visitor.
 
It doesn't.
In fact, you have to have "recently logged into" chat for it to notify them at all. Mods can @@ someone, and they still do get the message.
 
3:09 PM
@ScottPack I did try a @@ but his name didn't pop up. Wonder if I can do it by ID - (scurries off to check)
 
@RoryAlsop It's by chat id.
 
@Ninefingers ahhhhhh - that would explain it:-)
was testing his sec.se ID, and it wasn't finding him either
 
@RoryAlsop yep, so call me Mr 12409, Mr 2260.
 
@RoryAlsop That's hot.
 
@RoryAlsop Now you're turned on by screennames too? Stop bringing your crazy fetishes to the chat!
2
 
3:17 PM
@ScottPack LOL - rule 34
 
@RoryAlsop Also, I just used the @ @ magic on you from afar...
 
@Iszi oh dear lord, just cos I wear a mask and leather
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@Ninefingers oooo - is that why I have a little gold button appearing in the footer bar?
 
@RoryAlsop not sure, hold on, @ninefingers.
 
@Ninefingers - will answer over there
gold button gone now
haven't seen it before, admittedly
 
So the @@ shows up differently than an @ ?
 
3:26 PM
@ScottPack nope, it just shows up in chat as a gold (1) or (2) or whatever, but if you click on it you go to that chat.
 
Ah, so just like a regular @ing
 
Yep. Although look carefully at the difference between @scottpack and @ScottPack...
 
@ScottPack only cooler:-)
 
If you can't see it, the @ @ ones are always lower case
 
Was the first one a double?
 
3:29 PM
Yep
 
Ah. It displayed as a single.
 
I don't think the difference can be seen by others once it gets displayed in chat
 
Plus I only received one notification for that line of text.
 
Sooo... how do we start the "Fix SSL Working Group"?
 
Double @ let you summon people that are not in chat. I think that's powerful enough.
 
3:30 PM
@JeffFerland Well, when you figure it out answer that question.
 
We know we need to move to TLS 1.2... which means putting that code in NSS...
 
@JeffFerland I saw your post - will upvote as soon as the day ends and I get more votes. I like the idea
but how many people will be in a position to help get it into NSS.....hmmmm?
 
@ScottPack This is a problem where we can do everything... the only browser not using open code is MSFT, and they actually SUPPORT TLS 1.2. WTF.
@RoryAlsop Anybody who can write it is a start... if you write it, reviewers will come. Must find writers....
Saying people ought to do things sure kills a room!
 
hahahaha - was working:-)
 
3:45 PM
@ThomasPornin "picture changes may take up to 24 hours"... so it's not my fault anymore!
 
@JeffFerland Do did you decide on a fetching cap to wear in your headshot?
 
Heyo diamonds! @RoryAlsop @AviD @GrahamLee: Could one of you take a look at this guy? Seems like he's spreading at the very least a bad attitude, and at worst some erroneous information.
 
@JeffFerland I have one just like that, but with orange flashes painted on it
@Iszi will do
 
@Iszi Jeeze... yes, he's just digging up old crap and adding nothing of value or worse.
 
3:50 PM
oh yeah - I deleted one of his that was flagged up yesterday
 
@ScottPack For reference, that's the pork pie style hat that Black Hat Guy from XKCD wears.
 
@JeffFerland Was about to pretty much say just that. It seems he's posting primarily in contention with existing highly-voted and accepted answers that have been posted by well-respected members of the community who have in some cases more than proven their knowledge in the fields in question.
 
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A: Any flaws in this security model for a REST web service?

corrector Use SHA256 instead of SHA1 ( they say it is SHA1 is not considered too strong now a days) Then "they" are wrong. Anyway: I have no idea what you (= the OP) are trying to do. Why not use SSL for all requests, not just for the initial HTTPS request? If it is only an optimisation, it ...

Great example of that... ad-hominem to the poster, contradiction of SHA1 vs. SHA256...
 
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A: Free wifi password protection impact on security

corrector this helps to somewhat disenchant them of their sense of anonymity on your network They may not feel anonymous, but they are anonymous (inside the set of people that asked you the passphrase - if the set consists of 1 person, the anonymity is limited). Additionally, if you decided to imp...

I made the mistake of composing and posting a full response to that one, before I really checked into this guy.
 
He has lot of NaA
 
3:54 PM
@Mvy More than Land Of A Thousand Dances?
 
I'm going through his stuff - remember to vote down if something is just not a good answer, and flag if it is not an answer
 
Well I'm not sure for the last one @Iszi linked. Is he responding too an anwser?
OK flagged again.
 
@Mvy Yes. Mine. The accepted one.
And, sort-of tangentially, to the scenario posed in the question.
 
@JeffFerland That is....ever so slightly disturbing.
 
Well... he should have commented then.
 
3:57 PM
@Mvy moved them to comments
 
Well his real answer... are poor answers.
 
yeah - down voting is king here :-)
 
> Anyway, the whole SSL PKI is crap!
humm.
 
@Mvy is interesting, as he seemed to support SSL in another answer somewhere
 
> Password hashing is not so important. Do not waste too much time there.
ಠ_ಠ
Welp. I'm out of votes for the day
 
4:04 PM
I swear this guy is a test of one of the townhall questions from yesterday
 
@JeffFerland hahahahaha - maybe that's it, to check we walk the walk, not just talk the talk
 
@JeffFerland Indeed. @RoryAlsop Would it be appropriate to just cut him off now, (temp ban) until you guys can work it out with him in private?
 
@Iszi I think it would. It's one thing to redirect the new guy on current questions; it's more disruptive when he's dragging up stuff that's 10 months old.
 
It is rather suspicious that his account is less than 3 days old, is not linked to any other SE site
 
@JeffFerland Oh my, is that a CRT television behind you ?
 
4:07 PM
@ThomasPornin Hotel room of the place that DEFCON was held this year; yes, that's a CRT.
 
@JeffFerland Also, a proto-masonic symbol and a mask honouring an historical fundamentalist terrorist -- is there a message to be read here ?
 
@ThomasPornin I think the message is that Dan Brown needs to use a different plot for his next book.
 
@Iszi Initial, gentle prod:
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A: Is using a public-key for logging in to SSH any better than saving a password?

corrector The main point of public/private key authentication is not to let your secret out, even to the party you're authenticating to. For this reason, using keys is better, as you never send your secret outside your machine. Is challenge password authentication not supported by SSH?

 
@RoryAlsop And you had to do that on one of his posts that's definitely not an answer?
 
@JeffFerland Ah well, if you read Dan Brown's books then you have already been punished, by definition.
 
4:12 PM
@Iszi well - it was his most recent, so I wanted him to spot it
 
@RoryAlsop Erm, wouldn't he spot it regardless, due to the big red "1" on his Inbox?
 
he's new - you never know
time to run for train - catch you later
 
@RoryAlsop Seems to have spotted my comments to his "answer" on the topic of free public Wi-Fi security. Anyway, thanks for chiming in on it.
 
@Iszi That was a lot of comments...
 
@JeffFerland Yeah. And it's pissing me off just a bit that I'm still letting it continue.
 
4:24 PM
@Iszi Well, it's pretty obvious from voting that his answers are bad examples. Total harm is low... just a nuisance about digging up old stuff.
 
Occasionally, I feel it's a shame that we can't down-vote someone into negative rep.
Like, users should start with 20 or so rep and negative-rep users should be locked down pending moderator attention or something...
This guy in particular is sitting at a net gain of -16 rep since he registered.
Or perhaps a better measure would be accounts achieving x negative vote and/or flag velocity over a given time.
 
4:45 PM
@Iszi Check your math :) Looks like -8 yesterday and -26 for today.
 
Interesting. The "by post" rep view (security.stackexchange.com/users/5056/…) seems contrary to what's shown in the "graph" view (security.stackexchange.com/users/5056/…)
And this may be because reputation on deleted posts & votes is not shown in the lists, but it does appear to be reflected in the graph.
There should be a "reformed" badge that's extra-special for users who achieve x negative rep and/or flags over y time, and then afterwards gain z positive rep.
Well, if this doesn't set off some alarms...
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Q: What are some good resources for learning how to hack my website?

daviesgeekNote: This is for my personal use. I'm not going to hack someone else's website. I have several websites, and I'd like to learn how to hack them so that I can secure them. Where can I find some good resources for learning how to hack my websites? I already know about Hack This Site. Could someo...

Looks like he's not at all new to SE. Just to security. He may be well-intentioned, but he's really barking the wrong way up this tree.
 
Some flags also count against you
 
5:22 PM
@ScottPack they do:
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A: How does the Spam Flag work?

KipWhat is the effect of the Spam flag? The spam flag is designed to eliminate posts with no relevant content and to penalize the authors: 3 flags (spam or offensive): post is banished from the front page. 6 flags (spam or offensive): post is locked, deleted, and the first revision owner loses 10...

> 6 flags (spam or offensive): post is locked, deleted, and the first revision owner loses 100 reputation.
 
Damn right!
 
5:41 PM
@Iszi Is it better now with my tags and my answer?
Oooh yay, Gravatar update.
 
I saw your blurry cat this morning.
 
The problem with that question is that it's basically "list some resources"
I'm trying to think of a way to re-word it to get it away from that.
 
@ScottPack I'd take a better picture, but she has passed.
 
Which are technically the anti-SE model
@JeffFerland :(
 
@Ninefingers We get plenty of those, and sometimes highly vote them...
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Q: Books about Penetration Testing

tokozedgWhat are the books you advise describing methods or steps required to make a successful penetration test? I have a base knowledge of common security checks, but it would be great if someone more experienced describes the full test.

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Q: Good (preferably free) resource for CISSP practice questions

Jeff FerlandI'm looking to sit for my exam in a few weeks, and I want to have a good set of practice tests to bounce against and make sure that I'm up to par with the types of questions that will be asked.

More than anything... next time around somebody asks that (and they will), we can close as dupe of this :)
 
5:44 PM
@JeffFerland That's why I said, "technically". We just need to be very careful about how often those kinds of questions come up.
I would have thought a list like what he's looking for would already exist.
 
@JeffFerland True. SO has a few too, but they're mostly "for historical reasons". I don't think they're necessarily bad, but they are discouraged, which means if we can get the OP to ask what they actually want out of those resources, that's better.
e.g.:
2329
Q: List of freely available programming books

KaranI'm trying to amass a list of programming books that are freely available on the Internet. The books can be about a particular programming language or about computers in general. What are some freely available programming books on the Internet?

 
WOW 2300 votes
... and that first answer is a fantastic resource.
 
A lot of the current close reason discussion came from the fact that... well, look at the top voted questions on SO: stackoverflow.com/questions?sort=votes
Including excellent specimens such as:
591
Q: What are some funny loading statements to keep users amused?

Oli This question exists because it has historical significance, but it is not considered a good, on-topic question for this site, so please do not use it as evidence that you can ask similar questions here. More info: http://stackoverflow.com/faq Nobody likes waiting but unfort...

 
@Ninefingers Well, that's a lesson learned.
 
@JeffFerland That's normal for SO :)
 
5:51 PM
@ScottPack I don't have 2300 votes there :( ;)
 
Your smileys are making me feel uncomfortable.
 
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Q: How to ask about quality of security related qualifications or courses?

DanBealeI'd like to ask a question about "how do I know a course or qualification is any good?"; but I'd like it to be a good fit for SE. The specific courses I have in mind are the Backtrack Wifu course, and the MyHardDriveDied course. But I wouldn't ask about those two specifically. So, Security.SE,...

 
I wish there was a non-S&M way to ask questions like that, and be able to get meaningful answers.
 
yerrr - but I suggested he come in here as that might work
 
I agree with your response.
 
6:04 PM
Hi @DanBeale - this should be a good place to discuss stuff that doesn't work in straight Q&A format
 
So, here I am. I'd like to know if the course is any good. And then if I list the certificate on my resume will any employer recognise it? See, for example, the course at MyHarddriveDied, which is mostly stuff I've already done, but then with advanced stuff like "platter replacement" (tools and equipment included in price).
Also, Hello!
 
@DanBeale Welcome to the nuthouse club!
@DanBeale How do you plan to make use of it? Marketing your own data recovery service?
 
6:28 PM
@RoryAlsop Yeah, it's pretty clearly wrong on both counts, but I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt first.
 
@JeffFerland - yes, at first it'd be just local data recovery stuff (and really, I don't need it for that) but then to use on a resume / CV for some kind of full time work.
 
@DanBeale I think you may have to illustrate what you took... I don't recognize them as a known name, but it coudl be useful for jobs that focus on forensics.
 
6:57 PM
"platter replacement"?
Thats <del>impossibble</del> usually cost prohibitive, sounds like more theory than practice.
obviously I havn't got the hand of markdown yet
 
Platter replacement is cool, but yeah. The whole "clean room" thing is a bit of a bummer.
 
The clean room is the easy part, you can buy that. Trying to align heads against microscopic magnetic regions is a lot harder.
 
Pashaw
Just like queueueueueueueueueueueueueueueing up a song on an LP
 
@JeffFerland The tags and answer are good, but I still don't think the question is quite right.
 
7:17 PM
I thought the platter replacement thing was mostly myth (or just theory, or very expensive). So, a course on $RECOVERY_SOFTWARE is no use to me; I can do that.
 
Is this one really an IT Security question?
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Q: SSL Breach - Will Issuers Now Have to Payout on the Massive Insurance Guarantees?

theonlylosAlthough many SSL certificates have been boasting extravagant guarantees -- typically around $10k minimum to $250k per breach -- to ensure their certificates are valid, to this date, I've heard that there has never been a single payout due to the fact the certificates limit the warranty to just d...

 
I can conceive that there are some entities that may perform platter replacement, but I doubt any commercial data recovery service would offer it.
 
That would be my assumption as well, though I don't have any data to back that up.
 
@Iszi Yes. It deals with risk, specifically transfering risk to a CA instead of attempting to mitigate or assume the risk.
@ScottPack If you had data to back that up you wouldn't need platter replacement.
 
@thisjosh I see what you did there.
 
7:25 PM
@thisjosh It feels more like a legal question to me, that stretches just a bit outside of our realm.
 
If it's not level, it smells S&M to me.
"Do you think they'll actually have to do this now?"
 
@Iszi It's a legal question that couldn't be answered without a technical professional. Needs an example, though. Without reading one I can't begin to guess.
@ScottPack Tending to agree.
 
@ScottPack Did you? It's microscopic and invisible.
 
Commented & close-voted.
 
@ScottPack Yes that part is argumentative, but I think the question of whether an insured IT risk will pay out is relevant.
 
7:28 PM
Ack.
 
You might worry if your insurer won't pay after a flood of your server room.
 
 
@Iszi Password, eh?
 
Okay. Now, someone tell me what's wrong with that picture?
@thisjosh Relevant? Perhaps. Within our scope to definitively and globally answer for? I don't think so.
 
@Iszi Looks just like my screen. ...
 
7:31 PM
We cant definititively and globally answer for all questions.
 
@ScottPack Right, but there's something wrong there.
 
Are you commenting on @Jeff's lack of a cunning cap?
 
@ScottPack Has to do with his gravatar, yes. But not particularly a cap.
The gravatar changes there, from his custom one to the default one. And it was at the default not long before that, too. What gives?
 
Technology changes over time. Any business tied to technology will necessarily change along with it. Therefore even though we try to have answers that will be relevent in the future some of them will time out.
 
@thisjosh For sufficiently large values of some
@Iszi That's just crazy talk.
 
7:34 PM
@thisjosh I'm not even talking about temporal localization. The question is localized further based on your agreements (or lack thereof) with the organizations, and local laws. Neither of these are things that our community is expected to provide expertise on.
@ScottPack I see the custom gravatar in the room list, too. So, it's as if whenever he has the gravatar at a certain size it uses the custom one, but below that it uses the default.
 
@ScottPack I prefer large values of zero.
 
@Iszi We talk ceaselessly about PCI.
 
@JeffFerland Oh hey, you're back. Mind posting a message that's about three lines long or so?
 
@Iszi Re-enter the room and it'll fix. I hadn't used a big line, so it hadn't loaded my big avatar after it changed in the system.
Blah
Blah blah
 
Bingo.
Right there, when it bumped to three lines, your gravatar changed.
 
7:38 PM
@Iszi Caching issue.
 
And now I see the default again.
 
So reload the page!
 
Ctrl+F5 worked.
That was still, just... odd.
 
@thisjosh Those are, without question, my favorite.
 
@Iszi Are SSL guarantees limited to specific jurisdictions? I don't know.
If they are then you certainly have a relevant point.
 
7:41 PM
@thisjosh SSL guarantees are limited to the organizations which are involved in signing such agreements. The enforcement of said agreements in court then varies by jurisdiction.
 
Precisely. It would fall under contract law.
 
So, I believe it's like going into another SE and saying "My computer got damaged by lightning while plugged in via XYZ UPS/Surge Protector. Do they have to pay me for the damage?"
 
Really, so Verisign for example does not offer a guarantee to every jurisdiction, within reason of course.
 
@thisjosh I imagine they probably do. However, their guarantee probably varies by jurisdiction and may also vary depending on what sort of service level you've subscribed to with them. Further, the enforceability of those agreements in court will also vary by jurisdiction.
 
@Iszi Two files, small and large. You load small, then both files change, then you load large. That's why they were different.
 
7:51 PM
@JeffFerland Still not making sense. The large would have been the first loaded, as it is the same (or is it?) used to represent you in the room listing.
"Copy Image Location" returns the same for both large images.
 
I wonder what countries our registered users represent.
 
@thisjosh In short: A LOT!
 
@Iszi I suspect, but it should be queryable.
 
@thisjosh There's about 10 or so just on the first page of users.
And that doesn't even factor in the different states and provinces, where jurisdiction-specific laws will also differ.
 
Yes I noticed, too busy to go to the data dump and craft a SQL query, maybe someone has already done it.
 
8:31 PM
I just realized we were probably forgetting that chat requires 20 rep. @corrector is going to have to make a Meta post, it would seem.
 
@Iszi Oh yeah...
 
-3
A: Does it matter which Certificate Authority I source my SSL Certificate from?

correctorIt matters: if you choose a CA so incompetent/dishonest that it gets kicked out of root cert store, then you better get in touch with another CA quickly. It does NOT matter: any cert accepted by browsers will work equally well. It DOES matter: informed "paranoid" users DO worry about CA that ha...

@Iszi @RoryAlsop - You might want to keep an eye out for that, by the way. I'd rather let you have first crack at it if/when it comes.
 
8:47 PM
@Iszi IIRC moderators can invite a user to chat even if the user has 1 rep
 
@Gilles That'd be cool.
@RoryAlsop @AviD @GrahamLee - Could one of you guys please handle the situation with @corrector? Apparently, I forgot that it also takes 5 rep to post in meta!

So, I guess people without enough rep to access the best resources available to help themselves avoid causing trouble still have enough rep to cause trouble?
 
@Iszi If you give the guy a single upvote, he'll be able to post on meta (downvotes you get while at 1 rep have no effect on your rep)
If they can't even get one lousy upvote, I guess the idea is good riddance
He seems to be familiar with the voting system. Could he be a sockpuppet?
 
@Gilles Are you sure? Besides, I'm pretty certain any up-vote I'd give him would only be negating down-votes and essentially get nulled out.
@Gilles Not sure why you say he seems to be familiar. Down-votes are pretty easy to notice, and he's obviously learning the chat/meta rep requirements the hard way.
 
@Iszi up. There's even a known exploit that if you downvote someone at 1 rep and cancel your downvote, they get to 3 rep. You can't go beyond 3 that way, so it's not a big deal.
 
9:05 PM
@Gilles Oh wow. That did work. Too bad it doesn't bump them to 5.
 
@Iszi I looked through his answers. I don't understand all the issues, but none seemed worthy of an upvote, though I didn't downvote any either. So I can't give him extra rep. He could make a worthwhile edit, if he's determined to get to +5, but I suspect he won't care.
 
@Gilles He'd still need at least two up-votes (or one canceled down-vote, and an up-vote) on any current post to bring one of them into the positive. He could also post a new answer worth up-voting to an unanswered question. But that also seems unlikely, so I really hesitate to encourage him to answer anything else.
 
@Iszi AFAIK if one of the mods invites him, he'll be able to chat
 
@Gilles I'd ask if you're able to invite him, since you've kinda got that blue diamond in all the chat rooms. But, I don't have time to deal with it right now. I've got to move on to other things.
 
I don't think I can do it (I think I could only invite him to a chatroom that's associated with Science Fiction and Fantasy), and anyway it's up to the [sec.se] mods to decide what to do with the guy.
 
9:19 PM
@Gilles Doesn't mean that (absent other constraints) we shouldn't try to help, I figure...
 
9:47 PM
@Gilles you can also try in french chat room :P
Anyway, I'm not sure that you can't do it in other rooms. At last, all of them are on chat.stackexchange.com
 
@Mvy no, since my chat account is associated with SFF there are a few things I can't do wrt rooms associated with French
multi-site mods are very much an edge case on chat.SE
there's what, I think 4 of us now
 
hum
 
10:17 PM
hello - just popping on briefly. @Iszi - going to go have another look at the guy
 
@RoryAlsop Thanks.
His main issue now seems to be that he can't participate in chat or meta, so we can't really have a live discussion with him about improvement of his posts.
 
@Gilles I can't invite him if he has never been in chat
so may need to upvote him somewhere - hang on
 
@RoryAlsop That just feels so wrong.
 
yes - i can't find an answer to upvote so will just contact him directly
 
10:32 PM
@RoryAlsop Thanks again.
 
@RoryAlsop I think @@ would create a chat account if there isn't one yet, so you could @@ him here then invite him here (or maybe @@ would in fact suffice)
Shog9 found it:
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A: Chat: can I grant write access to a unregistered user?

balphaThe lolcat came from a problem with the Stack Overflow API; this should be fixed now. Users with less then 20 reputation cannot talk in chat unless a moderator gives them access (I've done that [temporarily] in this case). We're still looking at ways to allow high-rep users to create temporary p...

 
10:53 PM
@RoryAlsop Hope you don't mind, I commented to him that you'd be contacting directly. He still seems interested in resolving the issues.
 

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