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12:28 AM
Posted by Joel Spolsky on July 13th, 2011

We’re at that time of year where we go through everybody’s salary and makes sure it’s reasonable. We’re up to about a dozen in-house software developers, and we’d been paying them based on a compensation system developed by our cousins at Fog Creek, which is different enough from Stack Exchange that there was some chafing.

So we sat down and thought out developer compensation from basic principles, and came up with what we feel is a pretty robust way to pay great people. Here were the core principles on which the system is built: …

 
 
3 hours later…
3:52 AM
Can't resist sharing this here, for the Twitter-impaired:
 
Boo
 
Was eating out tonight with a bunch of people who'd gotten together for a friend of a friend's birthday. Knew I was at the right table when only one person didn't get the joke.
 
Until the kid came along I had organized an after work bar-dinner once a week. It ended up being populated entirely by CS grad students (current or former), IT workers, and dept chairs from high tech academia.
That was a shocking amount of fun, and I feel very sorry for all of the poor schmucks who went there on Thursday nights.
 
A majority of the people who were at the table tonight either work or have worked in IT. One other than myself works in IT Security. The rest (except for the one guy's girlfriend, who didn't get the joke) are still geeks to one degree or another.
 
Put a few beers in us and good times... :)
 
3:59 AM
Oh heck yeah. Was an awesome time!
So, did I miss anything exciting in here?
 
I dunno, I just got home about half an hour ago.
It's funny. On a normal game night I drink 2-3 beers and feel pretty ok about it. Whenever we have keg beer I drink 4-5 red cups (don't know the volume) and feel less full than if it had been water. I just don't get it.
 
@ScottPack Sounds like you're drinking better beer when it's not from a keg.
 
@Iszi It's a toss-up. Largely dependent on what's in the fridge. Lately it's been mostly Yeungling in bottles, and kegged Newcastle.
 
@ScottPack Both great beers, but I would definitely say Newcastle is the lighter of the two.
 
I find that Newcastle has a smoother texture, but feels heavier.
 
4:09 AM
Ever try Dos Equis Amber?
 
As an aside, a couple of weeks ago Yeungling announced that they would start selling in Ohio. Gobs of excitement from the locals. It's an hour to the state line for the nearest pickup.
@Iszi I haven't, only the regular stuff.
Which I found to be too light and fluffy for my tastes.
 
Try Amber. I think you'll like it.
 
If I see it somewhere I'll give it a shot.
This weekend, however, I promise the opposite.
This year we have 31 breweries in town for Brew Week, and because of scheduling I won't be able to start drinking until the culminating block party.
And on that note, it's 4 hours past my bedtime :) Have a lovely evening!
 
4:33 AM
@ScottPack G'night
 
 
2 hours later…
6:33 AM
@Rory Alsop, congratulations.
 
7:11 AM
@Iszi no, but I never drank my own urine, either. Is the Amber as bad as the "regular" dos equis?
 
that's an interesting thing to see on the side of my chat window...
 
 
1 hour later…
8:25 AM
@RebeccaChernoff Always best to come in halfway through a conversation - much more fun:-)
p.s. Morning
 
8:46 AM
@M'vy - have reviewed and added a couple of paragraphs into your draft blog post. Couple of tweaks on English grammar, and added the bullet point 270xx list.
@Iszi @Scott @AviD On topic #2 for the DMZ - if you guys are ever over in Edinburgh, let me take you to some top CAMRA breweries (Campaign for Real Ale) - many moons ago I used to work as cellar manager for a real ale pub in the city so in addition to my whisky, cocktails and glowing drinks I have a wide experience in real ales!
 
ok thx @RoryAlsop
I'm currently working on a french version, or sort of, for my thesis. So this will help me do it for the blog as well
 
@Mvy no worries - I think it is a good topic and I think it will be very well received - it is an area which gets a LOT of interest
@Mvy excellent
what is the thesis?
 
9:01 AM
Certification watermarking for mobile devices
and my company is 27001 too, so that is part of the context as well
 
9:23 AM
@RoryAlsop isnt that topic # 1...?
sounds like fun!
though I dont think i'll be in that area again for a while...
 
 
2 hours later…
11:32 AM
@RebeccaChernoff I had the same thing happen yesterday to something in the Comms room...
 
12:08 PM
Hiya @Scott
@Hendrik - the first QOTW blog post will go up tomorrow on:
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Q: How does changing your password every 90 days increase security?

Bill the LizardWhere I work I'm forced to change my password every 90 days. This security measure has been in place in many organizations for as long as I can remember. Is there a specific security vulnerability or attack that this is designed to counter, or are we just following the procedure because "it's t...

thank you for the question choice
...hoping we will get more participation in choosing QOTW #2 - meta question will go up soon.
 
So is the plan to get QotW's posted every Friday?
And, the next time I find myself in your beautiful city, I will definitely take you up on that offer, @RoryAlsop.
 
yarr - or if we don't get enough interest we could change it to QOTF or QOTM :-)
 
So I'm guessing 'M' == Month, but what about 'F'?
 
Fortnight:-)
 
You people
 
12:20 PM
@ScottPack excellent!
isn't that in Ameringlish too?
 
Technicality.
Although, I like the sound of that. 'Ameringlish". It's a bit of a twister with my shadow of a southern accent, but still nice. Really helps with the distinction.
I just read your answer to the SSH remote access question. I find it funny that he wanted us to give him reasons to shut down the ssh daemon, but we're trying to tell him to fix the machine as a whole :)
 
hi @tomjowitt - welcome
 
Hey
 
@ScottPack well it does depend a lot on the business model for his org as to exactly what the risk is, but in any case - it is an unmanaged high risk scenario that breaks audit and control models quite badly
 
12:49 PM
@RoryAlsop So does the hair grow naturally into cones, or do you have to sculpt it yourself? :)
 
@ScottPack I know - it's moved from my neckbeard to points in under 10 years. Shoot me now.
 
Have you turned in your pipe scented braces yet?
 
aye, and bought myself a Newton's Cradle iPad app
(not 100% true)
 
cute
During my most recent move one of the lines on my Newton's Cradle snapped. Made me rather unhappy.
 
make a large fluffy one - babies love 'em
 
1:00 PM
I only have one
 
I'm sure I have seen a photo of one which hangs over a cot to entertain the baby
 
A single node cradle seems rather boring
Oh, I think you and I are thinking of different designs....
 
hahahahahahaha
it goes swish
@ScottPack I'm thinking of the ones with multiple balls
(bad quote, I know)
 
coughs
 
ahh - just readin about Kerkhoffs' principle. I always wondered why the apostrophe was in the wrong place
 
1:04 PM
I don't think we could sufficiently explain ourselves to each other in any semblance of good grace, so I figure we might as well move on to another topic :)
Morning, @Thomas
 
@RoryAlsop Because his name already ends with S?
 
@Mvy yep - I know that now:-)
 
More importantly, not to be confused with Kirchhoff
 
@ScottPack I have googled, but I only know of this kind
 
That image seems to violate some fundamental laws of physics. We need to harness it as a power source. It could be more powerful than Superman!
 
1:13 PM
Ahh - Kirchhoff - much more practical
@ScottPack hahaha - I tried to post up the animated gif of Newton's Cradle, but it didn't work
 
Hello
 
what other kind of Newton's Cradle is there?
 
@RoryAlsop The link still worked, though!
 
@ThomasPornin Afternoon
 
@RoryAlsop It is still morning here
 
1:14 PM
@ScottPack ahhh - will pop it back up then - maybe not..ah well
 
sighs Fine, so @Rory mentioned something about a fluffy Newton's cradle for children.
So I, naturally, imagined a much larger structure where, instead of balls, there would be harnesses into which children could be inserted.
 
Quiet day today, my colleagues are on National Holiday
(although the "holi" part is kind of stretched)
 
@ScottPack facepalm! Love it:-)
 
@ThomasPornin Bastille Day?
 
@ScottPack Yes
 
1:16 PM
@RoryAlsop Hence my comment referring to having only a single child and how a single node cradle would seem awfully boring.
 
Yes
 
Also valid for the one colleague in Tunisia, don't know why
 
@ScottPack I can't believe there are no images on 'tintertubes of your Newton's baby cradle
@ScottPack excellent Rush song!
 
@RoryAlsop Give it time. Rule 34 will take effect, but sometimes it needs a minute to craft the images.
 
@ScottPack I could have 3 nodes - but all different sizes. You'd need to plan it with Quintuplets, or higher.
 
1:18 PM
/me shudders
 
Have you read 'Rule 34' by Charles Stross yet?
 
I haven't
 
It's very good
check antipope.org for more info (SFW)
 
I haven't been doing much pleasure reading lately.
 
I have taken to it again now I'm commuting by train
 
1:19 PM
I did, however, go through the Holmes short stories earlier this year. That was an enjoyable bear to fight through.
 
I didn't so much when driving to work.
 
Oh, I bet. I'm sure I would do significantly more reading had I a public transit commute.
As it is now, my drive is only about 8 minutes.
 
@RoryAlsop You found a new job to your liking ?
 
@ThomasPornin yes - am contracting for the summer with Virgin Money - the new banking arm of Virgin, and from the middle of August I have accepted a role to build a security team for PwC in Scotland. I know, I left one of the Big-4, but I think I have solved all the downsides of Big-4 working (except the hours) and it is a very nice proposition
 
@RoryAlsop For your "password expiration" blog post, I think it would help to clarify the "Compliance reduces the risk of penalties of non-compliance" line. E.g. start with a statement about ageing and compliance, like "PCI audits often expect ageing"? (is that true? but you can typically argue your way out of it?)
 
1:29 PM
was in the lucky position of having 6 groups of headhunters offering fun jobs, so could really pick and choose
@nealmcb good point - will make some time later on today. Thanks
 
Mornin'
 
hey @Iszi
 
G'morning
 
Hello
 
@AviD I've never had the regular Dos Equis, so I couldn't say. But, I really enjoyed the Amber. My wife likes it to, and she can't stand beer.
 
1:35 PM
@Iszi will have to wait until after work :-(
 
@RoryAlsop NSFLE, btw.
@AviD's comment about drinking his own urine made me think of it again, and I couldn't resist. It's funny as hell every time.
 
You been watching Bear Grilles again?
 
@ScottPack Who?
 
And one-boxing failed me :(
 
@ScottPack Take away everything at the end, starting with the question mark.
 
1:40 PM
He's the host of the show, "Man vs. Wild". Think 'Survivorman' only with someone who can't be bothered to actually go into the wilderness without hotels and camera crews, and thinks drinking his own piss is the solution to all of life's problems.
 
@ScottPack Oneboxing didn't fail you. You failed at Oneboxing.
 
@Iszi LE?
 
Shush you.
 
@RoryAlsop It's a new phrase I'm trying to get going around. Like NSFW = Not Safe For Work, NSFLE = Not Safe For Little Eyes (or Ears).
 
@ScottPack Bear Grylls? The friend of Gas Stove Squirrel and Badger Hobs?
@Iszi let's get it twitter trending :-)
 
1:42 PM
@RoryAlsop You go ahead. Protected tweets (AFAIK) don't get counted in trends.
 
@RoryAlsop I've only seen him as the sell-out survival "expert". Your references are lost on this one.
 
damnit - my plans for world domination foiled again
@ScottPack was from:
why no oneboxiness?
 
I'll queueueueueueueueueue that one up later
 
@RoryAlsop Now that's a Onebox fail.
...or just a 404.
 
dunno - can't check easily, so I just grabbed the google result that matched and popped it in
right - this one:
there ya go!
 
1:46 PM
/me sighs
Screw you facter!
 
@RoryAlsop Pwned you.
 
Alan Alan Alan
Steve
 
(Oneboxed the one you were originally trying to link.)
 
I loved those adverts
for one of the BBC wildlife programmes
the kids used to do an uncanny impression of "nighttime DAYTIME nighttime DAYTIME"
 
Stop lookin' at 'er!
 
1:48 PM
follow the youtube links and you will see it
 
Did you see this, @Iszi?
 
@ScottPack Hadn't. Awesome.
 
@ScottPack That actually brings a tear to my eye
 
And Oneboxy goodness for anyone who comes by later on and is too lazy to follow a link...
 
@RoryAlsop Same here.
 
1:53 PM
 
partly from the family aspect of it, but also as I have missed out on the entire Space Shuttle program. I have seen the ISS through a telescope but never a shuttle
 
I missed the last launch mostly 'cause I was feeling too lazy when time came (4 AM) to wake up and leave the house for it, and I really was expecting a scrub.
Friend of mine put it perfectly:
Well that's the last time I don't go watch a #Shuttle launch because the weather might prevent it. Next time I'm going!
 
@RoryAlsop I have a very vague memory of seeing a shuttle launch when I was 14. As a kid it was really cool. I wish I had gotten to see another one when I was old enough to properly appreciate it.
 
@ScottPack Maybe while you're down, we'll be lucky enough to have a rocket launch. It's not putting people into space, but they're still pretty awesome.
 
There was one during our visit last spring, but we missed it by about 45 minutes.
 
1:57 PM
An Atlas V is slated to go up on August 5.
 
There's a place my folks like eating at on the beach that, apparently, has good views of such things.
 
I know a great spot for watching shuttle launches, but I'm not sure it's so effective for the rockets. To get that close to the rockets, you've pretty much gotta be on government property.
Did you see the swarm of people that shut down a whole causeway to view the launch?
 
@Iszi deliberately? or just as a side effect
 
@RoryAlsop I'm not sure which really came first - the police shutting down the causeway to vehicle traffic, or the people over-crowding it. It's not uncommon to have cars parked on the side of the causeways for launches though.
 
@ScottPack Really sweet - moving indeed!
 
2:05 PM
SR 528 was backed up for miles before the launch, too. Launch was around 11:30 AM. My boss had to turn around from going to work just after getting off his exit at about 07:30.
Lucky for me, I'd taken the day off anyway - he had everyone who wasn't, "work from home".
 
Some of my fondest and most enduring memories of elementary school are standing out in the playground with a radio listening to the news about Gemini flights.
 
@Thomas - the OP didn't seem to keen on your answer, so have added a real world option to see if that is what he needs:-)
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Q: Export laws on the cloud (key size)

davidsDo the U.S. export laws around AES-256 apply to applications hosted in the cloud?

(depsite the fact I think your answer is absolutely correct:-)
 
@RoryAlsop Well, you can upvote my answer, then...
(and I will upvote yours -- sportsmanship oblige)
 
done
Welcome to @TheEvilPhoenix
 
@Rory thanks, you can thank @StefanoPalazzo for pointing me to security.se
 
2:16 PM
he will burninate you with his fiery fury
 
oh be quiet :P
 
@TheEvilPhoenix :-) I wonder whether SE rewards people for raising awareness
 
@Rory i wish
 
@StefanoPalazzo one imaginary point to you
 
nice :)
 
2:16 PM
although the +101 rep I get from the SE system for linking my AskUbuntu primary account to here helps in a way xD
</immediate chat privileges>
 
heh
ta daaaa
 
i had a question i was going to ask about whether something was scanning for vulnerabilities on my server(s) or not... but those questions are dependent on whether my logs exist and whether my workplace will let me SSH outbound...
aand that answers my question beats the Windows-based network with a stick
i'm a linux guy so...
 
@RoryAlsop I think he wants/needs a free lawyer
 
@ThomasPornin yerr - not going to happen here:-)
 
@ThomasPornin +1 that.
 
2:20 PM
@TheEvilPhoenix Good man (adds one to my tally) - Oi! @AviD - I got another one on my side
 
@RoryAlsop "There ain't no such thing as a free lawyer" (with apologies to Robert Heinlein)
 
it's still TANSTAAFL so that's good enough
was it Heinlein or Niven?
 
@RoryAlsop multiply that by 5 if you want to account for all the linux systems i own
;)
 
@RoryAlsop Heinlein, in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"
 
@TheEvilPhoenix actually, that could skew the results well. All the *nix folks I know have many machines but most of the Windows ones have 1 or 2. Interesting.
@ThomasPornin yep - I think I first read it in one of the Ringworlds but you are right
 
2:23 PM
@RoryAlsop i keep a windows drive around just in case, but i think it hasnt been updated since win7 initially came out... so... yeah, i'm still a linux guy xD
 
I think my ratio is around 7 Linux:2 Solaris:2 Irix:1 AIX:1 HPUX:1 Windows:1 CP/M:1 Forth... definitely a Unix guy
:-)
 
out of curiosity, have any of you heard about the Secuirty Maxims someone from a US gov't organization produced as a report?
about 60% of those apply to cyber security
i shared that on AU, and i think someone from AU (AskUbuntu) blogged on it
@RoryAlsop heh, Linux and Unix are not that different... but still both are better than Windows :P
 
@RoryAlsop Probably because an old Windows on an old machine has relatively little use when there is a newer Windows on a newer machine available
 
I like them - snappy
 
Many of my extra machines are there for some architecture reason (namely, being able to benchmark cryptographic algorithms on non-x86 processors) for which Windows does not apply
 
2:28 PM
@ThomasPornin that's actually my official reason for having these - testing purposes. Nothing to do with me being a hoarder of cool kit, no
 
@RoryAlsop Ah, I was kindly but firmly instructed to get rid of most of my treasure when we moved from France to Canada
 
welcome to @makerofthings7
 
mh..
> Shaw’s Law: Build a system that even a fool can use, and only a fool will want to use it.
 
I could give away a few systems (Atari ST, Amstrad CPC 6128, MSX 2) but some had to go to the dustbin
 
2:30 PM
Is it me, or is this completely nonsensical?
 
@StefanoPalazzo heh
 
WiFi-hacking neighbor from hell gets 18 years in prison arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/07/… (updated link)
 
@ThomasPornin I sympathise - my last move I had to get rid of 20-something of my servers including a gorgeous RS6000 (but wives don't know when you have just virtualised them all....)
 
@StefanoPalazzo could be.
 
And I argued the case for keeping my Osborne-1 and my Jupiter Ace
 
2:31 PM
sounds a bit like they just collected a bunch of pages of folk wisdom and clichés
 
as museum pieces
 
@StefanoPalazzo the laws, maybe. the maxims are a bit better ;)
 
yeah there are some really good ones in there
 
@makerofthings7 I tweeted about that earlier as I wondered just how hellish the victim's life must have been during that investigation!
 
2:32 PM
@RoryAlsop I could keep my very first machine (Thomson MO5, 6809-based French machine from 1984)
 
@Rory Alsop - I just read the entire case... fascinatingly demented, terrible.
 
I'm glad we have another neckbeard. I was starting to feel repressed what with the next best one abandoning us for a new hairdo.
 
@ThomasPornin I loved the 6809 instruction set. I used to write assembly code and translate to hex in my head for implementation.
Those were the days
 
@RoryAlsop Oh 0xCF it.
 
@RoryAlsop I now want to prevent the use of any software I make from characters like him.
 
2:34 PM
@ScottPack heh - I saw it
 
@RoryAlsop It was the greatest CPU for Forth
 
absolutely! - my 6809 box was the Dragon 32. I loved that machine - it survived my teenage years, life in the Falklands and only actually died when someone stuck a screwdriver into a sensitive bit by accident a couple of years ago
 
@RoryAlsop "someone" ?
 
.........me
 
2:45 PM
Yeah, so, I have this friend who.... :)
 
I know - I should have blamed it on the kids
 
Hello! That's what they're there for.
That and chores.
 
the elder two got much better at chores when they realised it correlated exactly with how much pocket money they get
the youngest is thankfully still young enough to enjoy tidying for fun
 
At this point, I'm happy with the notion of requiring currency. So long as it happens. :)
 
3:09 PM
@Jcolebrand - another new face - welcome
 
nope, longtime lurker
mod on another site, like ITSec, just not my regular bag
 
heh
 
just logging in for the day
 
welcome anyway
you'll probably find we'll end up not talking about security here - probably mostly drink, space shuttles, food.... y'know
the usual
 
Poor guys. I think the chatter yesterday afternoon used up our on-topic quota for the rest of the month.
 
3:12 PM
It feels quiet on security.SE and crypto.SE today
 
it does a wee bit:-)
 
I don't fully understand what crypto.se is for
 
@StefanoPalazzo Cryptographers.
 
is crypto.se to security.se like cstheory is to stackoverflow?
okay I realise sec encompasses more than just crypto,
 
3:15 PM
but it's all about theory and maths, right? (crypto.se is)
 
@Thomas and I had a chat on that sometime yesterday - trying to find it now
there may well be a lot of overlap/grey areas
 
well that's not so bad
there are tons of Ubuntu questions on Unix&Linux as well - and they both work very well
 
crypto.SE tries to exist in the middle of the range between the overly practical (security.SE) and the overly esoteric (cstheory.SE)
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best of luck to them then :-)
 
heh - us, overly practical? :-)
 
3:19 PM
2
Q: how to decide between Cryptography.SE and Security.SE?

Jason SI asked advances in usability for cryptography/authentication and one of the commenters raises a good point: should this be in Security.SE? Is there a good rule of thumb between the two? e.g. if it has actual algorithms in mind, should it stay here?

 
what's that thing called that Ian Goldberg advocates. It's something like "practical cryptography", meaning crypto that normal people can actually use
you need a tag for that ↑ (for my distress signal question)
 
@thomas - darnit - private beta for a few more days, so we can't see it yet
 
ah, he calls it "useful security and privacy"
so maybe a ?
 
@StefanoPalazzo It is a thing that I noticed quite early when I went outside of academic circles: cryptographic research designed tons of very smart algorithms, but everybody uses RSA
 
@StefanoPalazzo possibly contentious...as it would imply everything else was ... useless?
;-P
 
3:21 PM
There is a need for a bridge between academia and industry
e.g. standards, reference implementations...
 
doesn't this guy calling it that qualify it as a proper academic term? ;-)
 
most of cryptography in security.SE is about dancing on that bridge
@RoryAlsop Well, I can see it properly oneboxed
 
argh. I'm trying to find a good domain name, and absolutely everything seems to be taken :-(
 
how does it appear for the common folk ?
 
agreed - it will be good to be able to say: don't think we can help here, but pop over to crypto for a bit more hardcore stuff. We typically haven't had the esoteric maths stuff here - but I'm guessing you will.
@ThomasPornin it is oneboxed, but you can't visit it
@StefanoPalazzo how about stefanopalazzo.com?
:-)
 
3:24 PM
I'll register that anyway, but I'd like something shorter for my "labs"
 
I picked up Alsop.net a long time ago
 
@RoryAlsop Oh well. The gist of my answer in that meta.crypto question: "The rule of thumb, here, being that you should post to crypto.SE if you want to understand the internals, and to security.SE if you want to know what you should do now."
 
palazzo.de is registerd by a stupid out-of-business night club
 
It got upvoted, so it must be true.
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I so loath them :P
 
3:25 PM
@Thomas Excellent:-)
 
@RoryAlsop Lucky you 'pack.*' is pretty well gobbled up.
 
I'll just pick four random letters that can't be confused easily... see you in five hours (:
 
@RoryAlsop Guess what: "pornin.com" is already taken
2
 
not going for spack.com? </politicalincorrectness>
 
And I cannot get a hotmail address with my name, either ("address contains a forbidden word")
 
3:27 PM
oh I got a really good one
\o/
 
@ThomasPornin Can you blame them? The civilized world finds "Thomas" highly offensive
 
@ThomasPornin that must be annoying! Like the problems the town of Scunthorpe had
 
what a day
 
(real town)
@StefanoPalazzo http.com?
 
I'm guessing that might be taken ;-)
 
3:29 PM
dotcom.com?
 
bloody software is broken. I need to select a holder, tech-c and all that stuff, from empty dropdowns :\
 
I'm just talking nonsense now - must be time to go and find my train. See you all later
 
@RoryAlsop Yup, nearly lunch time.
Have any of you guys checked the site stats for 7/12 on the blog? Interesting 'Clicks' information
 
you know how you get confirmation emails when you do stuff on the internet...
registering a domain name has gotten me nine of them so far, more to come.
 
 
1 hour later…
4:44 PM
How do I vote to move a question to superuser?
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Q: Is Port Forwarding only neccessary if someone tries to connect to you first?

7SpecialGemsI got thinking about how webcams over MSN Messenger worked. After some digging on Google, I found that the camera stream on a port in the 6000's. It then occured to me - I don't allow that reem of ports to be open on my router - yet the webcam stream works when I chat with a contact? How is thi...

 
@HendrikBrummermann flag it for moderator attention
@HendrikBrummermann only moderators or stackexchange staff can move questions/posts between sites
bug @StefanoPalazzo if that's not easy to understand, he's moved several posts from AskUbuntu elsewhere which I've flagged xD
@StefanoPalazzo BE ALIVE, I KNOW YOU'RE THERE, since you're talking in the AU chat room!
@HendrikBrummermann i'm not a mod, but I want to know your justification of it being moved to SU
 
It's a question from a home user about how to configure his DSL router.
 
Welcome to @RebeccaChernoff
god, i need to mess with this autoscript system i have... rm -f's the script
@RebeccaChernoff you have mod somewhere, am I right that only mods can actually move items from one site to another?
i.e. security.se to superuser
i'm pretty certian, but i wanted to confirm
 
Mods can yes, users can vote to close for migration if a migration path is open.
 
and assuming that we can't close yet, we flag for mod attention and provide in the "Other" description: Migration to <target> should be considered.
or something along those lines?
(note: i've been through this several times on AskUbuntu, but I just want to confirm my knokwledge)
 
4:53 PM
@RebeccaChernoff can we get migration pathes from security to superuser, serverfault and stackoverflow?
 
@HendrikBrummermann @RebeccaChernoff doesnt that have to be discussed with the site mods on security.se before the migration path can exist?
 
@TheEvilPhoenix does it? there are enough empty slots at the moment.
 
@HendrikBrummermann i'm not a mod, that's why I highlighted @RebeccaChernoff
hell
if I wanted to I could highlight @Stefano because he's a mod on AskUbuntu and should know this kind of stuff as well
 
before we add migration paths, we want to see hard evidence that a significant number of posts are getting migrated by mods.
 
I'm here :-)
 
4:57 PM
(wait i just did highlight him... facepalms)
 
(just very busy, sorry)
what's up?
 
@StefanoPalazzo oh i can tell you're busy, remember i monitor other rooms ;)
 
so in the meantime, the community should be flagging them for migration and the mods can migrate anywhere.
 
@StefanoPalazzo was just making a statement, you can go back to screwing around with nginx, lighttpd, and webservers :P
 
are you talking about a migration path from sec.se to AU?
 
4:58 PM
@StefanoPalazzo we are :P
aCTUALLY NO
 
I don't think that's necessary, but you'd have to ask the sec mods
 
@StefanoPalazzo was buggin ya for knowledge
about how a migration path sets up
i.e.
whether mods on both ends need to discuss
@StefanoPalazzo i misread your post :P
regardless, you can go back to screwing with webservers now @Stefano
 
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