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7:54 AM
Maybe it's like this: I have 12 LEDs, the mains voltage here is 230V, so: R = (4.5 - 12) / 230 = -33mOhm?
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A: LED's too dim. Wrong resistor?

Daniel KimbrilEvery LED has a current value such as yellow have 10mA and white is 20mA and so on. Each light also has a voltage. And quantity of lights is also imperative to know. Then use the formula $$R = \frac{ V_{in}-(V_{LED} \times quantity\;of\;LEDs)}{current\;of\;LED}$$ $$R = \frac{4.5<batteries> - \...

 
Hm, the history of that question is somewhat weird...
reviewed by peterj and closed by peterj but it seems that it was stuck like 1.5 years in the close vote queue since then or so
 
Seems to happen more recently. I don't know specifically why
 
8:32 AM
probably stuff got changed and things appear from some dumpster and are shoved into the close vote queue
 
Yarp.
I'm going to put tape on your package now.
Need self-tapping metal screws? I can drop 3 or 5 in.
Bored with King's Day already
 
nah, thanks, I inherited a few jars full of them from my grandfathers shop years ago and maybe once or twice since them needed one...
ah the mixed smell of wd40 and strawberry jam...
 
8:53 AM
A defunct IRFZ44 with a broken lead?
A hand full of spaghetti?
 
9:08 AM
do they contain significant amounts of platinum?
 
JRE
@PlasmaHH Are you "endeavoring to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins?"
 
@PlasmaHH Only the platinum spaghetti does
 
9:28 AM
Someone threw this over the fence... electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/230858
@Asmyldof I take 10km of it
 
@PlasmaHH Only do handfulls
 
grow bigger hadns?
 
@PlasmaHH My hands are already huge! wink wink
 
No storm emerging here when you flap them, so can't be that big ^^
 
I have been forbidden from flapping
Ask it a question, write down what it says, then practice! Obviously! (How to simulate a photo diode response)
 
 
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11:54 AM
Hm, sometimes I wonder if the rep system works right wheny ou get 2.6k rep just by asking questions
 
12:06 PM
It takes a long while before you get any real influence, and if you ask questions worth 2k of rep, then you at the least know how to ask questions properly and I'm fine with someone like that being allowed to edit and vote
There are many more problems with questions than with answers, so having some "experienced experts" in the elites might not hurt
@PlasmaHH Got the laptop back today. Free MB replacement
 
@Asmyldof I am not quite sure if that falls into that category... electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/230887
 
Going to test tonight
 
@Asmyldof thats nice, my stuff always breaks like a week after warranty runs out
 
@PlasmaHH Mine too. Was happily surprised to find the manufacturer warrantee of 24 months turns out to be a EU directive
And apparently they were impressed with my packing, because it's returned in exactly the same setup :-D
 
@Asmyldof yeah, there is like subtle stuff going on in these laws, like after 6 months or so you are required to proof (if necessary) that you receivd a faulty item etc.
@Asmyldof Hm, did they even open it? g
 
12:12 PM
I'm about to find out >.<
No clingfilm, but ESD foiled sealed bag in stead
At least something happened
 
yay
promising
 
@PlasmaHH If I want to send you some solder resist ink, if.... bottle, manual syringe, or dispensing syringe?
 
@Asmyldof bottle, it has probably the least chance of leaking.
 
Syringes will not likely leak if I fill them properly
IF....
;-)
 
(am well stocked with all kinds of syringes and needles. 75mm longs are quite scary)
 
12:22 PM
Me too! :-)
 
my concern would only be the possibility of leaking, if the chances are equal, throw a three sided dice ^^
 
Only have 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 20 and 40
I'll add " just flop it into a ziploc bag" at 4
 
starting with a certain length you can do pretty big damages by hitting important parts of the body, especially if you have to inject im :/ that makes things extra scary
 
Hmm, you only need a 12.5mm needle to kill someone
Don't even need a syringe
 
in the end you only need your bare hands ;)
 
12:30 PM
Good point
 
12:48 PM
Either the mainboard is new, or they placed 2 extra SSD supports in the PCIE bay
 
1:03 PM
The ink is goopier than I thought :-D
 
I hope it is pink ;)
 
OKAY!
 
It would be intresting if there was a transparent pcb material and transparent soldermask, I wonder if these would look as nice as in my imagination
 
Watch ST:Voyager or ST:DS9
And it's possible
 
those look boring, I am thinking of multilayer boards with embedded transformer windings and rf vodoo and stuff
 
1:20 PM
Still possible
But it won't be very transparent
On account of there being very few places you can look beyond the first two layers
 
stoopid ground layers and stuff
 
1:33 PM
Mixed you some candyfloss pink solder resist
Haz happy days now?
 
yay! can't wait to try it out
 
I'll also add some black and blue
 
Yay, what is that gold dot doing there under my name...
what a stupid badge is that...
 
I don't see anything
 
Electorate
Vote on 600 questions and 25% or more of total votes are on questions.
 
1:44 PM
Oh... right
That gold
@PlasmaHH you're welcome
UV curing, so I'll put it in a black ESD bag, to be sure. Keep it dark, cure in the sun
I bet you didn't expect I had asked for samples of red and white expressly for the purpose of mixing pink
 
okay, cool, now this screams for some project where there is some exposed pcb visible so that someone actually sees the colour
@Asmyldof not expected, but from your earlier experiments with pink dye it wasn't exactly impossible ;)
 
^.^
I'm definitely going to do a comparative study on resulting coat quality if I add fluorescent yellow and pink to the white one :-D
 
a while ago I saw some guy on youtube contemplating about how helpful it would be if all pcb/soldermask was flourescing since he discovered some broken caps that way...
 
@PlasmaHH As dumb as that badge sounds, users not voting is a real issue. (the magnitude of the issue changes over time)
@PlasmaHH wait... how the hell does that work?
 
2:00 PM
Hmm, is matlab filter-coding on-topic here? electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/230088/…
 
@W5VO it looks that the evaporating electrolyte sometimes alters some of the soldermask chemistry to make it less flourescent. Or just leaves stains that are too faint to see otherwise, whatever hypothesis you follow ;)
@W5VO but a golden badge for just 600 votes? I mean, its nice and shiny and gives me certainly some authority... but then again there was that tranny question from earlier where the user looks similar...
 
@rdtsc sure*
@PlasmaHH Ahh, was stuck thinking about ceramic caps and how you would see a difference if they were faulty with UV on the soldermask
 
@W5VO that would probably black(light) magic
 
but electrolyte leaking at least enters the realm of feasible
 
probably some discoloration differences appear due to different heating and depositing of sud due to different airflows, so highly thermally stressed parts might be visible too, regardless of theirmakeup
 
2:08 PM
@PlasmaHH Consider that there are only 68 electorate badges awarded for a site that has been up for about 6 years.
 
oh...
 
It's probably the 3-4th most common gold badge
 
tiny elitist substack anyways ;)
 
of course
 
I'm worried about Olin getting a MCU gold badge
 
2:17 PM
lol
 
The amount of "Really, that's what you're teaching?" I've seen from him in that exact category in only 12 months
Ghastly thought how many people are out developing based on his gold badge level participation
 
all he can do with it is close things as duplicate
 
I don't care about the badge
I care about what it implies to one of the many areas I do work in, of which 80% fixing other people's stupidity in existing designs
 
2:50 PM
@derstrom8 So was the loophole insinuation
I want to punch Kingsday in the nuts
 
@Asmyldof I don't think derstrom8 has been in chat - the @ notifier won't work in that case
 
bah
I wanna punch Chat in the nuts too now
 
what question are you talking about?
 
One of them questions where I commented too
@Asmyldof I was attempting to make a joke — derstrom8 13 mins ago
 
@Asmyldof Are you enjoying the music from aquabest too?
 
3:04 PM
@PlasmaHH Nice safe, ESD black vacuum packed solder mask
I am super rich, so I could spend a whopping 70 euro on a decent headset
 
@Asmyldof I hope you opt for the noise canceling option.
insane, I can hear it inside
 
@Asmyldof yay, vaccuum packed?
 
Most leak proof if it's tightly wrapped. You seemed concerned
 
yeah, didn't know you have tools for that around
 
I have central vacuum, I have a sealer and I have needles
And think well
 
3:10 PM
ingredients for a perfect murder...
 
mmmmmmmm
hum?
 
JRE
Think you can manage the 8 seconds that River Tam claims to remove all blood from the human body?
 
No, because that's impossible
The only way to get all the blood out of a human in 8 seconds is if you prep with a huge blender and have a centrifuge with a very fine mesh that reaches several thousand RPM within a second or two
 
3:51 PM
@PlasmaHH That was flagged as a dupe by someone under 3k that couldn't vote to close it. The 'possible duplicate' auto-comment gets removed once it's actually closed. Just put a favorite on the question because given the answer would be a good delete vote candidate in a few days for 10k users or now for anyone with 20k.
 
@Asmyldof 5 liters of blood, with a maximum cardiac output of 35 liters/minute, means that a serious arterial bleed when a conditioned athlete is at max cardiac output (cuz that's who could get there), would be 8.5 second bleed out. of course, cardiac output would go down pretty rapidly starting at time t=0, unless you were replacing the blood with saline as it left.
 
@ScottSeidman Pretty quicky is an understatement
At 2 liters out shock and limited cardiac contraction start interfering greatly with the rate of flow.
 
@Asmyldof Yeah, but it would just be by passive cardiovascular system dynamics, as 8 seconds is pretty fast for autonomic compensation. If you kept volume up, you'd keep bleeding at that volume. Shock wouldn't set in -- no hypovolumic shock, as volume doesn't drop, and no nasty chemical stuff at that time scale. Of course, you'd have to roll over the system a few times to clear the blood, but still under 30 seconds.
 
Which isn't 8 seconds
 
@Asmyldof I bet in a lab on a treadmill, it could be done. Let me go find Igor ....
 
4:02 PM
What ever you do, you need to replace, which is "slow", or get left with a body containing around 15 to 25% of its original blood content once nothing comes out anymore
In all scenarios where the body is still one entire body (minus at most half an appendage for ease of access)
 
@Asmyldof large bore cath in the right ventricle, and one in the left, and you're all set.
 
For what?
 
4:20 PM
@Asmyldof Right ventricle to pump in saline, and left to bleed the heart
 
Means you'd have to still go at 3 to 5 times the speed it normally goes to be able to say that in 8 seconds there's "no more blood"
Assuming the 5liter applies in the individual case
Where "no more" would still be a statistical value rather than an absolute
At those flow rates, I'd imagine the thinner saline starting to take shortcuts
 
 
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5:50 PM
Hi guys, I'm very new to electronics. I want to make a 7-segment LED clock. I'm unsure how to do this. I have some very custom ideas, like having only 2 digits which show hour/min/sec for only a few seconds at a time when a button is pressed and I also need a 30 min countdown timer. Please, I need some guidance.
 
Chat has no rules to speak of, but this is broad, even for here
I only know that you - hopefully - have 7seg LEDs and know how those work.
We need more to even make a dent into helping you
Or, well, we don't, but I'm not up to "chatting" for 12 hours starting from scratch.
 
@Asmyldof Im sorry, I'm just new. I want to do this for a Design Engineering course, not electronics in anyway. I only have a few days to make a working model but I'm willing to pick up the basics to do it.
@Asmyldof I'll try myself but some direction might be nice. I'm pretty lost.
 
Which is no wonder if you've not tried anything before.
I'd not advise starting with an electronic clock. That's close enough to asking for disaster
But if you must, find an Arduino project, bound to be some
Any path other than taking something 90% there and modifying it will take time and several tries
 
@Asmyldof I know basic components and soldering. Making a dedicated PCB won't be hard for me if I refer a circuit design online. I just dont know which design I need.
 
Use google to find out, because I don't know either, because it's not my project
As I said, if you need it quick, your only option is abusing a DIY project already there
For better or worse
I can send you down a path, but I have no idea what other people are doing, because this isn't stuff I do, so you'll just as likely end up a dead end, if you don't just do the searching yourself
Doubtless this site alone has hundreds of questions that contain bits of information you might want, I can simply not say
 
6:07 PM
@Asmyldof I'll scour a bit and see what I dig up. Who knows maybe I'll find a DIY exactly like the project I pitched.
Apr 23 at 20:39, by Asmyldof
Hard work, elbow grease, research and experimentation
Hell yeah!
 
@Nick You are welcome to ask questions here or elsewhere, but it'll have to be questions that require a very low amount of Crystal Ball work.
If you have something that needs modifications that you can explain, that's several orders of magnitude easier to answer
 
@Asmyldof Mhh, I see.
I'll try building and testing some circuits. PSPICE and EAGLE are still the norms, right?
 
If you're asking me Eagle was out years ago. But it seems people still use it regularly
 
6:30 PM
@Asmyldof What replaced it?
 
@PeterJ hmk, was mostly wondering since you reviewed it and close voted too (for whatever reason close votes are not shown in the timeline) which made sense for me only when you voted during the review
 
6:46 PM
Kicad?
 
@Asmyldof Noted
 
7:29 PM
@Asmyldof I found one of the tips with a threaded top, let's see how it does with the glue
 
7:56 PM
@PlasmaHH Surely it will
Laptop works. OS's don't
 
8:25 PM
Why am I not allowed to review First Posts if I'm out of daily votes?
I can still comment, edit, flag
This is Racism!
At the very least it's unfair!
 
8:48 PM
hey guys :)
sorry for popping out of nowhere
I've got an assignment with a "big" circuit and i struggle to understand it, would anyone mind helping me with it ? :)
(tbh I didn't know where to seek help with competent and friendly people so I thought here would be a good place :) )
 
I like math. I'm not the best EE here.
 
Competent: A decent number. Kind: Hardly any
 
:D
 
decently competent but hardly decent
 
:D
so here we are
I've got this
 
8:53 PM
@W5VO I'm not sure, do you really fit either?
 
it is supposed to drive some pressure sensors inside a pitot tube
if anyone of you have some idea of how it could work... i'd love to hear that :3
 
@Magix The MPX 2200?
 
ewwww... virtual "ground"
 
What kind of an assigment is it?
 
no the whole circuit, the MPX2200 just outputs a voltage linear to the pressure
uh electronics
 
8:55 PM
@W5VO Obviously they are the Captains.
 
i'm in first year of engineering school :)
 
@Magix No shit. Assignment means dozens of things.
 
what's the difference between the first captain or the second captain, and can the first one pull rank on the second?
 
x))
@Asmyldof I don't get it
 
I think Captain 1 is in lead, since it's first in line
 
8:57 PM
I'm just trying to understand the stages and
how it all works
in order to answer the questions :)
 
And then Captain 2 is just the cocaptain in case Capt1 falls off the sheet
See, there's a problem here. If I/we flatly explain everything, you're not learning
 
yeah i get it
 
If I teach everything I won't be getting to bed anywhere in the next 48 hours
 
ah
I understand some things
so maybe a bit less
but yeah something around that
 
So you need to ask questions on what you're not seeing
Because I'm too lazy to poke around to find out what you know and what not
 
8:59 PM
and the time of year make us suspicious of students dropping semester projects on us for us to "solve" that they should have been working on / asking questions on.
 
And that
Though that's not a time of year thing for me
I'm always suspicious
Found out why my OS's didn't work, by the way, case someone cares
 
all right. The "line" on the top is +12 volts near the left and +5 on the right according to teacher / fellow students. what makes it change ? :p no I don't ask you to solve anything lol and it's not a semester project it's named a "mini-project"
@Asmyldof what was up with your OS ? :o
 
so you're not understanding what's going on with the power supply?
 
The clock on my replacement MB was set to September this year, causing Windows to poop its pants when it was checking for the Win10 update and the server telling it it wasn't allowed to be talking to it
Pooped up the disk and all that, then causing harm to Linux
Isn't Windows Magical
 
wow great
 
9:01 PM
@Asmyldof that's an interesting side effect
 
that's why I stick to linux
 
@W5VO To be fair, I'm also not sure what's going on there.... only 2V drop in the Ideal situation?
 
yeah there are a whole lot of condensers I don't get why they're here as well as the regulator
 
@Magix Something between the +12V and +5V makes the change.
 
@NickAlexeev Captain obvious is obvious. Thank you :) and you forgot to fly away :3
 
9:03 PM
@Magix It might be the voltage regulator regulating the voltage
 
@NickAlexeev No it doesn't. That's a (very rare!) 7810
So it makes 10V
 
@Asmyldof a bit optimistic, but probably would be OK as long as nothing draws too much current
@Magix Is Captain Obvious CAPT1 or CAPT2? I can't tell....
 
Either the +12V is badly labeled or the +5V is
I think he just told you Captain Obvious flew off
 
So, that'd be Capt 3
or Capt 0
 
9:03 PM
so I guess it's 10V ?
 
You see the -5V at the bottom rail right?
5 - (-5) = 10
 
"On the left side" if you ignore what's coming in, they treat it as a +5V
 
Well, more telling is that 0V "magically becomes -5
 
@Asmyldof Let's confuse the daylight out of him (with accurate information, if course). Maybe he'll learn to think first, ask second (I hope).
 
I must be missing something
 
9:04 PM
But, it's very, very bad form to define one voltage as relative to one point and another relative to another in the same schematic using labels
 
Probably the nasty thing that doesn't make sense in a sane world
You know, the output of the opamp that goes straight to ground with no load
 
yeah
that's another weiiird thing
strainght to the ground with no load
 
In fact
 
and I don't see the -5 V
 
(That's what I was referring to with "ewwww. virtual ground")
 
9:06 PM
well, there actually are several loads for that op-amp
 
@Magix But I see the -5V. (Because I'm Capt Obvious; I see obvious things.)
 
The negative to the 12V is connected to -5V without any further interference, so basically the schematic claims that wire from the input jack to the regulator somehow changes +7V relative to -5V to +12V relative to -5V
 
@NickAlexeev You're the best omg
 
This is a very badly labelled schematic
Someone somewhere should be ashamed
See, not friendly at all
 
I'll tell that to my teacher :3
 
9:07 PM
I warned....
 
:D
so what is that first opamp used for ?
 
It drives "ground"
 
if the output is the ground
 
Answer me this: Where does that ground come from?
 
uuuuuuh
the ground ? x))
 
9:09 PM
No no no not in a sane world
In that bizarro-world schematic
 
i don't get it
isn't the ground just... "the ground" ?
 
@W5VO [ hint: That's a trick question. ]
 
the almighty magical ground which comes from nowhere ?
 
Bah
 
@Magix Only assuming sanity.
 
9:10 PM
Turns out that update thing wasn't the (only) problem
 
@NickAlexeev well, the schematic is baiting those kind of questions
 
well anyways, the ground is 0V right ?
 
The best hint I can give is to notice that none of +/-12 or +/-5 are ground.
Or more specifically, that -12 = -5
 
@Magix You have a cell phone in your pocket. It's disconnected from everything, it's powered by a battery. How do you decide what ground is in the cell phone?
 
@NickAlexeev then isn't the ground the negative end of the battery ?
 
9:12 PM
@Magix nope
 
Negative end of which battery in the pack? lol
 
... well idk then ^^
 
@Magix Why negative end of the battery? What if you are generating a negative voltage on board?
 
@Magix Bingo!
 
i definitely miss some basics.
 
9:13 PM
of course, there's also the pedantic discussion of (earth) ground is different from 0 V
 
"You don't know." This is, I swear, the point to start understanding from. You don't know what potential ground is at, because you don't know what potential anything is at until you can compare it to ground.
 
@W5VO Earth Ground you can buy in 25kg bags in the DIY store. I know this
 
hahaha
 
x))
okay
so when I have some +12V it's relative to... we don't know ?? :o
 
@Asmyldof Well thanks a lot... Now I need to put something in a blender and say "It's well grounded."
 
9:15 PM
@MickLH I have something that makes coffee ground(s)
 
Mmmm uppers.
 
probably not the same potential as earth ground
 
@Magix The notion of Ground in a circuit (and I'm not talking about Earth safety ground) is no more than a handy shorthand. You can assign ground symbol to any net in the circuit. You can assign ground to a positive battery terminal if you wish (it may or may not make the schematic easier to understand, but it wouldn't break any physics).
 
If you put a nobel prize winner into a meat grinder, can you say you have ground potential?
 
@Nick all right, so here should I consider ground is 0V, +12V is relative to the ground etc... ?
 
9:17 PM
Lol forget about +12 for now, that's the most confusing part
 
okay
 
@MickLH No. You have ground results. You need a promising student for your blender
 
All the 12V means is that there is 12V between the two terminals
 
Hey @Magix...
 
it doesn't say anything about what the "absolute" voltage is
 
9:19 PM
@MickLH yeah, tell me ? :)
OKAY
 
Lol I'm just being a psychopath
1 min ago, by Asmyldof
@MickLH No. You have ground results. You need a promising student for your blender
 
@W5VO They shouldn't have labeled that net +12V (seems like an error to me). They should have labeled it +7V.
 
^
Think about f(12) = 10, applied to f(x) = 5, where f(x) = x + c
 
why +7 ? because there is something with -5V somewhere right ?
 
The only thing that actually has -5 volts is the magical leprechauns that possessed whoever drew this schematic to think of it the way they did.
 
9:21 PM
@NickAlexeev yeah, they're mixing a differential notation (+12) with absolute rail voltages (+5, GND, -5) in a way that is confusing to students
 
@NickAlexeev Or, alternatively specified the electro magnetic field used to induce 5V in that wire
 
@Magix If we were in the same room, I would be strangling you right about now. Over the years of engineering practice, I have run out of patience for sloppy language along the lines of "something somewhere".
 
haha OKAY I HADN'T SEEN THOSE +5 AND -T
-5
OKAY
OKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
 
@NickAlexeev Luckily you're not in this room. You're in another room doing something somewhere
 
@Asmyldof you're the lord of trolls, sir.
 
9:23 PM
@NickAlexeev Lol I did that to my roommate last night when he was asking me to help him learn AutoCAD, because he got offended at me for saying "No seriously, you have to fill in all these measurements before you draw it."
 
@Magix Trolls make good moderators.
 
:D
 
@NickAlexeev Stop trying to recruit me, or my first action will be to start the undermining effort of all your online works
 
okay, so now.
Why the heck are C1 and C2 and C3 here if they only make a bridge between +5V and -5V ?
 
@NickAlexeev Ironically true. They can detect malicious trolls effortlessly, and even distinguish them from benevolent trolls.
 
9:24 PM
@Asmyldof Sound's great! when can you start?
 
@Magix Stability.
Check out the 7810 datasheet
 
and because the capacitors don't make +5/-5, they stabilize it
 
Also, @Magix, be aware that C3 is probably physically placed in a very specific location relative to another component on that drawing
 
@W5VO Case in point upon case in point.
 
^_^
 
9:27 PM
but why would it first be unstable ? :o
 
Because transistors don't give no fucks boy they just get theirs and get out
 
@Magix because the stuff inside the magical black box of "REG 7810" isn't perfect
 
okayyy
 
seriously just open up the datasheet
 
now first part's clear to me yaaaay
 
9:28 PM
I think they have an equivalent schematic
 
@W5VO Shut up! Hater!
 
no no no.. you want the tractor
 
@MickLH Everything has one.... just very few have them publicised
 
Pedant.
 
9:30 PM
@MickLH You have met me before, yes?
Why is gparted taking soooo long!?
pooop!
:/
 
gparted better take long and do the things right @Asmyldof ... cuz if it doesn't you're screwed :)
 
I'll do it by hand if it doesn't hurry up
 
nah, he's already screwed
 
@Asmyldof That's a philosophical question. I have pressed buttons and watched lights flash which gave me the impression of having "met" you, but this reasoning alone doesn't seem to be rigorous.
 
haha
 
9:31 PM
@W5VO Not nearly enough or recent enough
 
@Asmyldof Can't help you with that
 
@MickLH How is that any different from the reality you imagine you're in when you move your head away from that "screen"
 
is c4 also for stability or should it have any influence in my calculation of e+ ? :/
 
@Asmyldof I guess it could be made into a matter of definition, thought I would still take it as a philosophical question as to what "You" or "I" means.
Especially if they are not physical entities and can not use the usual definition of "meeting" as colliding.
 
The only capacitor that really would have an effect on the system response is C5 - the rest are there for stability.
 
9:35 PM
@MickLH I will freely admit I wouldn't likely have had the intention of ever colliding with you, regardless of the number of keyboards separating us
 
that's awesome.
 
So I take it then, me wrapped in a bag of meat is equivalent to me wrapped in a bag of meat wrapped in a tangle of electro-mechanics that spans across the gap to the physical location where you store your meat-wrapper for your own consciousness?
 
@MickLH What is this idea you have that I would be a so called bag of meat?
 
It's a very common human assumption to make, forgive me if it does not apply to you.
 
Beep boop
 
9:41 PM
Oh thank god, a robot, I was not ready for aliens yet
 
Alien meat is meat all the same
 
That's interesting. Even if an alien took a gaseous form, it's still meat?
 
Yup
 
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