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@RebeccaChernoff Aye....we've been waiting for days for someone to nominate themselves. No one seems to be interested, however... :'(

@jrista very unfortunate. ):

D800E - Samples without AA filter: imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/sample02.htm

I wonder if there are any Lenses in the Nikon linup capable of resolving enough detail for an AA filter to matter at 36.3mp.

@RebeccaChernoff indeed...

@jrista canon has been very active with their releases lately :D

@RebeccaChernoff inverted smiley, don't see them often d:

morning :)

@fluf lol

@ShutterBug hey hey

hello, so whats new? :)

nm nm trying to figure out how the .net sync framework works

the documentation sucks

and on your side?

almost everything thats not open source, sucks in terms of docs

debugging and fixing a sencha app :S

@fluf so i suppose you need offline data availability? how are you planning?

well we mostly want to focus on two parts 1: syncing files for possibly updating some config and then 2: syncing db from one db to another with some slight changes

but I'm still looking at whether our initial idea is possible with the sync framework

ooh... i dont think you need sync framework if those are the only things you need

and sync framework is a relatively new technology... difficult to learn and adopt

@ShutterBug hrm ok

there doesn't seem to be any progress made on the sync framework in the past 2-4 months though even the latest downloads are from before that even

hmm i dont have working experience with it, just online articles... dont know much about it, just what it does and when we need it :)

ok I see

How would you attack the problem?

well if you dont need conflict resolving, i'd rather take the manual row by row flag checking (maybe a date_modified timestamp column) and synchronization...

and you also possibly could do a little bit of conflict resolving, as long as you dont need to merge source and dest and can pick either one

thats for the db sync portion

for filesystem data, metadata can be checked and matched to determine if the file has been changed and need sync or not...

@fluf without knowing details about what are you trying to achieve, its impossible to tell you a useful alternative, i hope you understand that :D

@ShutterBug yeah I understand everything is still very high level at the moment though I'm checking out the possible ways to get the sync part done

the problem I have so far with the db sync is that the databases won't be 100% matched on structure

so I'll have to add some logic in there

so I was thinking of just doing that part manually but I'm just concerned about the communication as there will be some over the internet as well so I might have to be a bit creative there

can you use SSIS packages? that could be another option for data pulling with options to take control over it manually

most likely not going to work with sqlserver everywhere

@ShutterBug I'm getting a better spec-ed document after work today which should help me shed some light on the architecture of the application

ssis can be used with different databases

but ideally one side should be sql server

ooh did't know that, I haven't used it before tbh

I'll definitely have a look

@fluf cool :) we all love better spec'd document, dont we? =)

@ShutterBug yes I love signed off docs especially

scope creep ftl

hehe, dream!

@ShutterBug so true I've NEVER had a signed off doc and no project where there wasn't scope creep except 1 where I was in charge of the entire project because it was to small to bother the project manager

lol... i even face scope creeps in my personal projects, in fact, more than i do in real projects...

@ShutterBug I don't have to many personal projects I usually can't think of anything that I need that I don't have

@ShutterBug do you github or something similar?

nah, my personal projects are mostly fun projects and unsuccessful (well, mostly) hacking attempts

@ShutterBug still sounds cool I should also try it

let me describe you one... i was working on another office on contract for 6 months and they had cricinfo.com banned. so i did not have any way to check on the scores...

so i used yahoo api to get data from cricinfo using ajax calls and display it properly, all in a nice and configurable interfcae, took me like 2 hours, but in the end i was able to check the scores of every match that has been displayed on cricinfo... totaly worth it :) though not 100% legal i guess :P

aah... it still works :D

@ShutterBug lol awesome, the only sites I visit is phot.se and news.ycombinator

and the company only blocks pron which I don't want to watch in any case

lol... well what i did wasnt legal in the sense that the company did not want their employees to get too much cricket, but I did anyways...

@ShutterBug stupid anti-cricket company

when the soccer wc was here my previous company set up 'n media pc where we could connect to with media player and watch the games from our pc's

@fluf cool i wanna join :D

:)

i have a few friends working in SA... as VAS specialists in the telco industry...

they say its a nice place :)

do you know anybody from bangladesh? @fluf?

@ShutterBug nope only you :D

as long as they don't work from telkom :P

@ShutterBug aye! The resolution on the new 24-70 looks AMAZING!

@fluf if they let you watch cricket you would all be asleep

@jrista there's a new 24-70?

yeah

they just announced it...yesterday, I think

canonrumors.com/2012/02/…

couple days ago

MTF has been improved CONSIDERABLY:

canonrumors.com/2012/02/…

I think Canon is preparing for 40mp full frame sensors

all of their new lenses have WAY better resolution than their predecessors

meh, no need for sensors with that many mp imp - too noisy

nice

@JamWheel You have apparently not seen the 36.3mp D800 samples. You've been debunked. ;)

And I have to say, unless Nikon lenses just don't resolve enough detail for 36.3mp, the D800E without the AA filter doesn't seem to have problems with moire. There are a couple sample shots involving fabric that don't exhibit any moire at all.

Not to mention the fact that 40mp is still not as pixel-dense as the 7D's 18mp sensor....you would need a 46.7mp FF to be as dense as that.

@jrista hows the change of diet going?

@jrista even my 1d MkIV is noisy at the size it is tbh

hows it going @Jam

hey man, not bad

snowing loads here atm :/

hows things with u?

@JamWheel pretty good, lost a lot of weight, feel good

@JamWheel Thats not because of size, though...Canon has pretty bad read noise compared to Sony sensors. I think Canon's initial read noise is between 14-27 e-, where as Sony's is about 3 e-. I would bet that Canon's newer sensors have resolved their read noise issues, which is how they improved ISO.

not much you can do about photon shot noise, and that does become more of a problem with higher density

but its less of a problem than high read noise

density certainly doesn't help matters

You should check out the D800 sample photos though

the ISO640 one is pretty impressive

admittedly, the 1D X sample images are stunning

the ISO1600 image has hardly any noise at all