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Q: When is a spell "on" a target for the purposes of Dispel Magic?

nbenSuppose my character is currently under the effects of the Heat Metal spell (targeting his breastplate) and is also caught by the Entangle spell (i.e., I was in the Entangle area of effect when it was cast during the last round, and I failed my saving throw). Finally, my character is cursed by th...

 
Howdy nben! I'm pretty sure what you're asking is the duplicate of the linked question I provided. Duplicates are more than okay as different people can ask the same thing differently and this helps others find it. If you don't think that question is your question, can you clarify what the difference is? If it is, but the answers aren't sufficient, then bountying and requesting what you are looking for in that question is a better path forward.
 
That question does not answer this question at all. Please read my question carefully. It is not about multiple effects. It is about when a spell is "on" a target.
 
Nben - my apologies if I misread - but it does seem like you've got multiple magical effects/spells going on and you're asking what happens when you dispel magic is cast on you.That does appear to be a duplicate of the older question, but if there's something different, we can absolutely update and reopen!
 
Okay, I am explicitly not asking about the multiple-effects. I don't know how to explain that here without just asking you to read the whole question before you close it.
 
@nben Give us some more details about why your question is different. What doesn’t that question deal with that your does? There are lots of reviewers lurking around.
 
11:20 AM
I am asking why Bane, heat metal, or entangle, as different kinds of spell effects, might be dispelled or not dispelled based on their spell descriptions. I list all three on my character to illustrate the ambiguity—why would one be dispelled when another wouldn't.
This is not about there being 3 effects at once. It is about whether the engangle affect is "on" me, whether the Bane effect is "on" me, and whether the heat metal effect is "on" me, given that they are very different.
 
Are you asking if dispel magic will undo the spell effect on you or undo the entire spell for these area effect/multiple target effects?
 
To quote the post, "Is the Entangle spell "on" me? If so, does the entire Entangle spell end, or do I just get disentangled? Does this extend to other area-of-effect spells?"
@ThomasMarkov The details you ask for are in the post: "is Heat Metal spell "on" me or "on" the breastplate for the purposes of Dispel Magic?" -- "Is the Entangle spell "on" me? If so, does the entire Entangle spell end, or do I just get disentangled? Does this extend to other area-of-effect spells?" -- "Does it dispel the Bane effect on me alone or does it dispel the Bane spell altogether (thus freeing anyone else also cursed by the same casting)? Or do I need to target the Bane spell in this case also?" -- "assuming that the answer to question 2 is "you must cast Dispel Magic on t ...
 
No, you shouldn't tag it to mark it as complicated. That's not how our tags work. You should instead explain it clearly (so it doesn't get misunderstood). More to the issue here (that I can see) is that your sub-questions are seperate. Whether heat metal targets you or your breastplate, how dispelling a creature in an AoE works, and how dispelling one of the targets of a spell works are seperate questions. Normally that would be closed as Needs Focus, but it seems mashing the queries together made things a spot muddled.
 
nben - I tried a re-write to focus in the question you clarified here in comments. You can see it here. Is that a better focus (I think we may have this question, too, but may just be related.)
 
@Someone_Evil They aren't separate questions, though—they are related in that the ambiguity arises from what is different about these spells that would lead to different conclusions from the Dispel Magic spell.
@NautArch is there a way to see a diff? I do not see any differences in your rewrite.
 
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Them all including dispel magic does not make them the same question. To illustrate, one could answer simply one of those questions without needing to consider the other. I'll grant you that they are related, but I still think they should be asked separately. (You can see the suggested edit in the revision history)
 
I disagree, I think these are all asking the same question: what does the text of dispel magic mean?
 
@Someone_Evil There are lots of questions here with multiple related questions about how a spell works in a single question—here's just one example that you answered (rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/162031/…). The main difference between that question and my question here seems to be the length. Can you clarify why these are not part of the same question or not closely-enough related in your mind?
@NautArch —Just curious, but why were the dnd5e links changed to dndbeyond? Is this an issue related to ownership / permanence?
 
More that the original link appears to have paywall content. It's a piracy site :(
 
@nben Wikidot illegally hosts paywalled content owned by Wizards of the Coast. D&D Beyond is the official toolset for D&D5e and is owned by Wizards of the Coast. So it is both not illegal, and is the most likely to last.
 
11:27 AM
@nben The two scenarios in that question are possible outcomes of one interaction, not seperate interactions. You'll note that the answer is "neither of them" (expressed more directly by two other answers to mine), not "here's how 1 works, and here's how 2 works)
That said, since the answer you got was satisfactory, I'm happy to leave it as is. I may have been primed to it requiring a lot more of a complex answer than it seems to have
 

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