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Q: Does convergence in distribution implies that the limit have the same distribution a.s.?

aprozz Let $X_n, X,Y_n,Y$ be real valued random variables. I know that if $X_N\stackrel{(d)}{\rightarrow}X$ and $X_N\stackrel{(d)}{\rightarrow}Y$ then $X$ and $Y$ have the same distribution. Now I asked myself does this imply that $X=Y$ almost surely? I think that this do not work in general because ...

 
@LeanderTilstedKristensen thanks, but somehow I struggle finding $X_n$ such that it converges to two random variables with the same distribution
@LeanderTilstedKristensen I'm not really good at finding such examples
 
If $\{ X_n \}_{n\in \mathbb N}$ and $\{ Y_n \}_{n\in \mathbb N}$ are independent and have the same distribution, then you get your counter example.
Well, you could, however the limit would be $X=0$ almost surely and then $Y=0$ almost surely, therefore $X=Y$ almost surely. You want to take a more interesting example that doesn't converge to a constant (try starting by making it random).
 
@P.Quinton So you mean if I take $F=B(\Bbb{R})$ to be the Borel sigma algebra. Then I can take $X_n:F\rightarrow \Bbb{R}$ by saying that $X_n(A)=n\cdot\lambda(A)$?
 
What is $\lambda$ ? Does that converge in distribution ?
 
\lambda should be the lebesgue measure.
 
1:52 PM
Also I am pretty sure $X_n$ is not a random variable
it should be a function of $\Omega$
 
Ah I see.
 
Do you know any sequence of random variable that converges in distribution ?
I would suggest using this one
 
Hmm sorry but then I'm a bit lost I don't know where to start. So I need to find a random variable and also give it a distribution?
 
taking Y_n to have the same distribution but independently
start with this : "Do you know any sequence of random variable that converges in distribution ?"
 
Hmm not out of the pocked.
I mean if $X_n$ takes values in $\{0,1/n,...,(n-1)/n\}$
where $X_n$ are uniformly distributed
 
1:57 PM
very good
what does X_n converges to in distribution ?
follow up, if $Y_n$ is also uniform in $\{1/n, ... , (n-1)/n \}$ but independetly of $X_n$
then what does Y_n converges to ?
 
Then $X_n$ converges in distribution to the uniform distribution on $[0,1]$
 
follow up : Is it true that X=Y alsmost surely ? Is it true that X and Y have the same distribution ?
convergence in distribution means that the distribution converge to the distribution of a random variable
it doesn't mean that it converges to some random variable in the sense you would want it to
this is more like almost sure convergence
in your example X_n doesn't converge almost surely
 
Sorry now I'm lost to what you are referring to, so isn't it correct that $X_n$ converges in distribution to the uniform distribution on [0,1]?
 
yes
it is correct
but X_n doesn't converge almost surely
 
@P.Quinton Yes I see because P(\omega: \lim X_n(omega)=X(omega))=0 where X is the random variable with uniform distribution on [0,1] right?
 
2:06 PM
no
yes
sorry
 
So is this correct?
 
\lim X_n(omega) doesn't even exist in general
for most omega
yes it is correct
 
perfect, but now do I explicitly need to define my Y_n?
 
you could
but you can simply say that they have the same distribution as the X_n
but are independent from them
then they also converge to X
 
Ah okey but I mean then they also converge to X
 
2:09 PM
now generate another uniform over the unit interval random variable Y
actually you don't need Y_n
if X and Y are indepednent
then both X_n -> X and X_n->Y
in distribution
but X != Y almost surely
 
So I don't need my example?
 
not really, you just need some X_n that converges in distribution to some X that is not a constant
 
Ah okey and then I take Y independent from X with the same distribution then immediately X_n->Y in distribution?
 
3:11 PM
Because I would like to take the explicit example instead
@LeanderTilstedKristensen @P.Quinton If I take my $X_n$ as above then I know that it converges in distribution but not almost surely as we discussed above. Can I then immediately say that if I take $Y$ to be independent of $X$ but with the same distribution so that $X_n->Y$ in distribution that then Y!=X a.s. since we don't have convergence a.s.?
 
3:47 PM
Yes, you are correct that this choice of $Y$ will give convergence that X_n -> Y in distribution.
To prove that X and Y are not equal almost surely, it is not a sufficient argument, that we do not have almost sure convergence. You can argue for it directly by proving that P(X=Y) != 1. This can be showed using inpendence, for instance we have that P(X< 1/2 < Y) = 1/4, when X and Y are independent and uniformly distributed on (0,1)
 

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