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1:07 AM
@RyJones I bought the Volt.
 
@Jacob fun times
@Jacob you have a charger at your condo?
 
@RyJones Yep
 
1:40 AM
@MichaelHampton md0 versus md127
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Q: How do I rename an mdadm raid array?

skolimaI have assembled a new raid array to replace an old one. However, this new array got assigned an automatic name of /dev/md127 and I want to rename it to /dev/md3, so that I don't have to change various other settings. How do I rename an mdadm raid array?

 
@ewwhite Who cares? I refer to eveverything by UUID
 
@MichaelHampton The mirrored pair of fusion-io drives I created for some user's server came back as md127 on EL6 versus md0 on EL5.
they have Nagios checks that refer to md0...
 
@ewwhite They'll do the same on EL7. And nagios is stupid.
 
:)
Well, for me... software RAID of fusion-io hurts
 
I use zabbix now, it handles that sort of thing by discovery
 
1:53 AM
needed tuning
they have zabbbbbbbbix, too
 
Hell, it's /dev/md127 on my desktop.
 
ZFS :)
 
Heh. Tried that once already.
I'll probably give it another go when I build this machine's replacement. And hopefully figure out why my performance sucked.
 
2:29 AM
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Q: Bash - Need to make df output user friendly on login

MikeI am trying to display the disk freespace to users when they login. Basically the output of df -h. I added this to .bash: echo -ne '\e[0;34m'"Disk: \e[m"$(df -h)"\n" It works fine & auto displays this on shell login but the problem is the output is cramped up. The column format is not pres...

 
3:09 AM
posted on October 06, 2014 by SysAdmin1138

When it comes to things to send alarming emails about, CPU, RAM, Swap, and Disk are the four everyone thinks of. If something seems slow, check one or all of those four to see if it really is slow. This...

 
I am going to go in tomorrow and try to prevent a major piece of software from being written in java. Good luck to me.
 
4:03 AM
@FalconMomot hahaha
@FalconMomot Good luck
 
Oh, success is probable.
 
@FalconMomot How was your weekend?
 
@Jacob it's still the weekend.
 
@FalconMomot It's almost over...
 
4:16 AM
Oh look, another bash update!
 
Bob
4:28 AM
@MichaelHampton Oh?
> * Apply upstream patches 026 and 027.
* Remove patches CVE-2014-6271 and variables-affix.
Hm.
Looks like there wasn't much changed. Just replacing previous patches with the upstream ones.
 
@Jacob you go bike around Green Lake yet?
 
@RyJones nope
 
@Jacob lots of women (and men, not to judge your preference) in tight pants during the day
 
@RyJones huh?
 
Men frequently go there to meet women, if you're so inclined. If you would prefer to meet men, well, you're in luck, they're there as well.
they only recently outlawed sex with livestock in Washington, so I can't help you if that's your thing
 
4:41 AM
@RyJones oh
@RyJones Have to figure out the best way to transport my bike in the car.
 
5:04 AM
good morning crazyness
 
 
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6:29 AM
morning
 
6:39 AM
g'morning bastards and bastardettes
 
@Jacob in the bed of your tacoma
 
@RyJones I don't own a tacoma anymore
 
@Jacob sad panda
 
@RyJones I have one of these:
 
@Jacob good times
 
6:52 AM
morning
 
@JennyD how's the cat? Did he already forgive you for giving him a bath? :)
 
@DennisKaarsemaker He's fine, and apparently he has forgiven us - he brought us a live present at 3.30 am to show his appreciation :-)
 
@JennyD lovely :)
Did it still squeak?
 
yes. And run.
I think it was some kind of vole
 
ooh what fun. I can already see you running around the house in your long pyjamas with a frying pan, trying to whack a vole :)
 
6:57 AM
heh, :-) Fortunately my husband woke up first, so when I woke up he was already busy catching the thing and I could turn over and go back to sleep :-)
oven mittens work fairly well to catch most small critters.
 
Fortunately I've never had small critters in my house. One cat is too lazy, the other too stupid :)
 
We now have three good hunters.
Our three cats are one Birma, one moggy and one Maine Coon. That the moggie is a good hunter is to be expected; I was more surprised that the Birma is really good at it and that the MC didn't figure it out on his own.
The Birma apparently also though the MC should know these things, so he decided to teach him. One night, the Birma brought in live mice four times and dropped them right beside the MC so he got to chase them.
The next night, the Birma instead came and fetched the MC around dusk and they stayed out for a long time.
After that, the MC started bringing home his own prey.
 
lol
teaching cats!
that's very nice
 
It was so very clear what he was doing, I'd never seen cats act that way before... but then, our Birma is the smartest cat I've ever met.
 
7:33 AM
Cat Tech Support: Halp my maine coon cannot find teh mices
Your call is assigned to: Birma.
Birma: Problem resolved; restarted the *chase::mices* process.
 
@RobM no... Birma: MC, RTFM!
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That works too! :)
 
7:48 AM
I do so love Ken Block
 
 
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9:06 AM
Wish I was in bed, in was sunny and it was the weekend - otherwise fine
 
9:24 AM
G'day
 
10:17 AM
morning
 
 
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11:27 AM
hm I wonder which nginx configuration is faster:
location ~ ^/foo-.*/(string|somethingelse)/(.*)$ {
try_files /$1/$2 $uri;
or:
location ~ ^/foo-.*/((:?string|somethingelse)/.*)$ {
try_files /$1 $uri;
 
Bob
@faker Benchmark time?
Probably negligible.
 
Dan
So, Win 10 appears to be Windows 8.1 with a start menu which is all we ever fucking wanted
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@Bob yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Guess I'll take the first option, it's more readable
 
Bob
Oct 1 at 18:40, by Bob
@ChrisS What was significant in Win7 apart from what people have been complaining about Vista?
Pretty much the same thing again.
 
for what i remember try to prevent using .* in regexp (quick search only):
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/bclteam/archive/2010/08/03/optimizing-regular-expression-performance-part-ii-taking-charge-of-backtracking.aspx
 
Bob
11:33 AM
But we know how successful 7 is, so maybe that's just what they need.
 
Dan
@Bob To be fair, Windows 7 is still a lovely OS. Vista on the other hand, really was as terrible as we remember - had to use a machine a few months back and fuck me
 
Bob
@DennisNolte Good point - a better optimisation might be replacing foo-.* with foo-[^/]*
 
Dan
Wheras 8.1 is also a fine OS - I like it fine
 
Bob
in fact, unless you want /foo-/blah/more/string/foobar to match, you should do that anyway
 
@Bob that's a good point
 
Bob
11:37 AM
@Dan Except the whole start-screen-on-the-server thing...
Actually, that doesn't even have Store, or support for WinRT apps AFAICT... what's the point of it? o.O
 
Quite pleased with how well Win 10 is behaving here. We've got it deploying via SCCM without any drama and deployment is the holy grail.
 
Bob
11:52 AM
@RobM I'm wondering what has changed in the kernel.
They did increment the version.
 
Dan
Started working on a microsite yesterday for my new tool
 
@Dan slick
this is the tool that "forwards" keyboard shortcuts?
 
Dan
Yep
 
god, ctrl, alt, end. that annoys me.
 
Bob
I don't think I've ever actually needed a SAK on a remote system.
 
Dan
12:07 PM
@Bob What, never...?
 
Sup
 
Bob
@Dan No, why would I need it?
Ctrl+Shift+Esc is far more convenient for the task manager.
 
Dan
@Bob To get to the Windows Security Screen, or to lock the machine
 
Bob
One-handed. No need to go to an extra screen.
@Dan Why would I need to lock a remote machine?
Just close the RDC window => locked.
 
Dan
@Bob Oh, no, I'm talking thin clients
Plus, disconnection is a different state to being locked and idle
And you need the security page to change your password, too
 
Bob
12:09 PM
@Dan Eh, it has a similar effect AFAICT for RDP.
 
Dan
@Bob It doesn't - closing the window disconnects your session
Locking it using the lock screen keeps your session active, but idle
 
Bob
@Dan But what's the actual effect?
(I've never been in this situation, as you can probably tell :P)
 
Dan
@Bob Well, the point of my application is that users can use a thin client exactly as they would a fat client
 
Bob
Why would an active/idle session be better than a disconnected session?
@Dan Yea, I get the literal effect. Just not too sure about why it matters.
 
Dan
@Bob Oh, sorry, I see. It's not "better", just different. There's a different set of timers that one can configure to log off disconnected sessions because a lot of people don't know the difference between disconnected vs logging off
 
12:11 PM
I got another call from SirusXM yesterday trying to get me to sign back on. I swear they're like a crazy ex who doesn't want to give up.
 
Bob
Aside from familiarity with CAD if they happen to use it, maybe (speaking users here).
@Dan Ah, yea, I suppose that would matter.
 
I basically said "take me off the list" and hung up on the indian guy at the other end.
 
Bob
Especially if you're running into some max clients limit.
@Dan Hm. Forgot about that one.
 
Dan
@Bob Don't get me wrong, people have been using clients for years without it - there's alternatives. But, every time I do an install there's always a learning curve - and ultimately why should there be
Even for me, switching between a Thin Client and my laptop catches me out
 
Bob
Heh, I've just gotten into the habit of not using the SAKs at all. So I never really noticed.
 
Dan
12:14 PM
Oh, the other thing about Thin Clients is that by design Ctrl Alt Del throws the Security Page locally, too. That confuses people - you can stop them from doing stuff there but very few users can actually grasp that there is a Thin Client and a Remote Desktop. It's just a computer that doesn't work normally to them
 
Bob
Mostly because of an older computer that could take minutes to load up the security screen. So I started avoiding it.
 
Dan
@Bob See, I use Winkey + L dozens of times a day. Why shouldn't my users be able to?
 
Bob
@Dan Same here, but I don't do so expecting anything on the remote machine. But I don't use thin clients either.
 
Dan
@Bob Yeah, this is all about Thin Clients, really. It can work on a fat client if you really want, but it's not the target
What I really need now is a VMware view test
 
@Dan I didn't want a start menu
 
Dan
12:27 PM
@BigHomie Too bad
 
XD
 
Got a new, to me at least, car over the weekend. Should be ready to collect this saturday
 
@RobM y/m/m?
 
Dan
@RobM Winner
 
2013 Ford Focus Ecoboost. Nothing that sexy I know but I like the focus.
 
12:34 PM
@RobM that focus is tight, good job
 
This will be the 3rd one I've had, they drive really well
And the new one is a big improvement over my old one
 
Dan
@RobM Can't really go far wrong with a Focus. I'm tempted to go back to a Mondeo again next
 
yeah I like the mondeos too
Ford usually make pretty decent cars
 
Got a new pet this weekend...a polish rabbit :p 8 weeks old
 
What are you driving at the moment then @Dan?
 
Dan
12:40 PM
@RobM I have an old Astra Convertible I picked up for the summer - just (very) cheap and cheerful, but it got broken into and the (new) stereo was nicked. Since then, I've gone off it to be honest
 
I remember it being broken into at a train station? I can see why that would be upsetting
 
Dan
@RobM That's right, yeah. Don't get me wrong, I still drive it and stuff - I just don't feel bothered with it now. It wasn't worth replacing the radio through the insurance, so now I can either pay and do it all again (And I spent a whole day doing it properly the first time) or put the shitty factory one back in which doesn't work properly
I'll probably hold on to it until we've hit our deposit target next year
 
that makes sense
Keep your eye on the more important prize!
 
Dan
Indeed :) That and motorbikes! My daily cars will always fall into tool territory for me, really.
 
Ah, that makes sense. Presumably the Astra is only really 'your' car then?
 
12:46 PM
I guess I broke chat
 
O_o
 
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A: How do you remotely administer your Linux boxes?

Pro BackupShellinabox Shell In A Box (pronounced as shellinabox) is a web based terminal emulator created by Markus Gutschke. It has built-in web server that runs as a web-based SSH client on a specified port and prompt you a web terminal emulator to access and control your Linux Server SSH She...

@MichaelHampton That's for you.
 
Dan
@RobM Actually, Jane has an Astra too - but hers is much nicer. Was only £3k, but it's a lovely modern car
 
@ewwhite that link looked fine here the first time you posted it?
 
the OP changed it, and onebox wouldn't post.
 
12:47 PM
@Dan fair enough, do you both like astras in general?
 
Dan
No, it's a coincidence really. Jane wanted something bigger than a Fiesta so I said the best choices for the price would be a Focus or an Astra (Or something very different like an MX5 or something). She liked the Astra and ended up with it.

I'm just sad - I used to work at Vauxhall when I was 17/18 and the model I have (2004) was brand new then and I always wanted one. So I went out and picked up a top spec 2.2 in April
 
You people and car brands that we don't have in the US...
 
Dan
@ewwhite Ford is Ford, Vauxhall is GM :)
 
I should get an Opel or Citroen.
 
Dan
Opel is Vauxhall, too
 
12:50 PM
I prefer fords to vauxhalls - my dad had one of the bigger vauxhalls so I drove that a bit when he was ill and needed driving around - but there's nothing wrong with either, they're both good cars. There's a lot of vauxhalls, or GM for @ewwhite in Luton of course.
Opel Kadett - the gopping boyracer-mobile du juor
 
The Astra looks like my Mazda3
 
Dan
@RobM Apart from French cars which I avoid, I'm not too brand fussed when it comes to modern cars - but I do find Vauxhall and Ford to have good parts availbility and they're easy to work on
 
meh, I've only had Swedish and German cars.
 
Dan
@cole Oddly enough, it actually shares a platform with the Ford Focus - the direct competitor to the Astra
@ewwhite They're probably objectively the "best" in terms of quality and engineering, but you do pay a price for it
 
@Dan mazda/ford is the same company now IIRC
 
12:53 PM
I think GM and Ford are at the top of a lot of car manufacturer ladders now
 
Dan
@cole Nah, just partners AFAIK
 
I like my Mazda.
40MPG/highway - can't complain
 
morning
 
morning basil
 
Started with a 1987 Volvo 240DL... bought off the street in Chicago. The seller offered me WEED to go along with it...
 
12:56 PM
@Basil sup
 
I remember when the windshield wiper motor burned out...
 
@ewwhite Protip: it's a bad sign when the seller thinks you'd need to be stoned to buy that car.
 
Dan
I love cars (especially old ones) but I hate selling or buying them
 
> Back Door Access for [person redacted], Senior Corporate Counsel

Not enough drugs yet this morning to service that request.
 
It's hard work for sure. A lot of the big dealers aren't even really car dealers. They want to sell you a finance deal that has a car attached to it somewhere towards the back. Ev*ns H*lshaw got quite confused when they started asking me how much I wanted to pay per month for a car and I said "We're still talking about how much the car is worth, and besides I was planning to pay cash".
Oh well - The car I ended up with from somewhere else is an improvement on the one they had anyway.
 
Dan
1:06 PM
@RobM That's the main thing, and it least it's not something you change too often
 
So I have this client...
It's a software shop. All devs.
one dev was tasked with being sysadmin
and I'm trying to find a word to describe his approach...
it's a form of incompetence, but it's born of laziness...
 
@RobM Very true... I've had a few car buying experiences fall apart over the desire to buy the car, rather than finance it. At least that's not a US-only thing, I guess.
 
Like not wanting to know enough about a problem, but only enough to get a temporary solution
is there a word or adjective for that?
 
I guess asshole car sales is a worldwide phenomenon.
 
@ewwhite That's weird, as all the limited competence I do have is also born of laziness.
Don't know of a single-word adjective for either situation, though.
 
1:20 PM
heh
 
@ewwhite inexperienced? :)
 
but it's a toxic combination of ignorance, impatience, inexperience and pride.
and possibly stupidity
Example:
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Q: Should I expose my Active Directory to the public Internet for remote users?

ewwhiteI have a client whose workforce is comprised entirely of remote employees using a mix of Apple and Windows 7 PCs/laptops. The users don't authenticate against a domain at the moment, but the organization would like to move in that direction for several reasons. These are company-owned machines,...

 
@ewwhite half-assing it
 
@ewwhite a stackoverflow
4
 
@JennyD You got it. Half-ass is pretty apt for this situation
 
1:25 PM
@ewwhite I've answered questions giving code and I've answered questions teaching style and code that can be copy+pasta wins every time. People just want a solution not an education
 
@Iain the annoyance with this one is that they can't have it both ways... if they just want the codez, they need to just let me handle it all.
 
This is interesting - it was apparently easier to do all this than figure put what the problem was with OpenVPN serverfault.com/questions/616981/…
 
if they want the education, then they need to be patient enough to listen to the right way.
 
@ewwhite yes
 
1:53 PM
just had a go on an Oculus Rift DK1 loaned to the school..now feel slightly queasy.
 
big lunch - bad idea, need a little sleep :(
 
@ewwhite You'd have to import the Opel and it's expensive as heck. I looked when they were making the GT
@RobM Around here, commission on a car sale is about 1/3 of gross profit, some places up to 1/2. So you're going to get sales people who are looking to sell you as much car as they can. The system doesn't lend to helpful, friendly, or honest sales people.
 
Plus, we have TrueCar.
 
2:11 PM
"Your TrueCar Estimate is 0.69% above MSRP." - WTF?
Also, no Tesla
 
I used it to get my wife's VW Tiguan
 
@ChrisS very true. And I don't mind that the salesman wants to take a profit - everyone needs to make a living right?

But I do mind be so obviously fucked about as I was at the big car dealership. They patronised me when talking about trading my car in - talking about the work that needs doing to it to make it saleable and pricing the work up trying to tell me they would pay the same to do the work themselves that they would charge me if I wanted the work done as a customer.
 
@RobM I had that happen too...I wasn't happy with my car at the time because I was constantly fixing it, so I brought it in to possibly trade it for a similarly-priced car. They told me that the car was essentially garbage worth-wise
(in the realm of $2,000 for "like new" condition at current mileage)
 
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Q: Debian: no free disk space

ChewbyeI tried to install Oracle on my computer but an error occurs and installation failed. After that failure my hard drive had no more free space. This is the df output: df -h /dev/sda4 124G 118G 0 100% / udev 10M 0 10M 0% /dev tmpfs 789M 952...

 
Dan
 
2:29 PM
@ewwhite ... and self baleted.
 
Client email... who can parse this? - Not sure if there’s a better email app or could this be a settings thing. I’ve noticed only emails without rules show up on the mobile devices and the folders with the rules don’t load. For example I had 359 unread emails this morning but only 139 were in my inbox. The ones mission were the ones who had their own folders
I moved this customer to Exchange from POP3 last week.
 
Dan
@ewwhite I know the default Mail app on Android doesn't sync your e-mail folders automatically, you have to configure it
So if you have a server-side rule moving e-mail, it won't show on the app by default
 
Ah... very interesting
iOS seems to just work
 
Dan
The App works, you just have to set it up if you want it to bring in ALL your e-mail
 
I'm not too much of a fan of heavy email filtering rules.
just seems like hoarding to me
 
2:34 PM
Yeah, seems about right. "Halp, halp, the magik box in my pocket isn't reading my mind correctly!"
 
Dan
Same - the only thing that gets filtered is stuff I may read when bored (Sales shite) and my accountancy things to ensure I never ever miss something
 
Dan
@NathanC Ah, the IT Crowd
 
I have like two filtering rules...
 
@NathanC Bollocks. It's because managers are rightly afraid of being thrown out a window.
 
2:36 PM
And something that makes @mdmarra's emails PINK in my Outlook
 
I've got dozens of rules... but they all just filter crap I don't care about into the single "crap I don't care about" folder.
 
Is there a standard set of email best practices?
 
Aside from not having it? No. Seems to be one of those thing that's got as many best practices as users.
 
@HopelessN00b recycle bin?
 
I have filters for our daily backup emails...but some still like to get through
like our user backup failing again
sigh
 
2:40 PM
you can backup users now?
can you also delete them?
 
@MichelZ I wish. Most of auto-alerts for shit I don't care about, but am obligated to continue getting alerts for. Just goes into a folder instead of my Inbox.
@MichelZ Yeah, but it's a lot of effort... and involves more acid than you can generally buy without inviting questions from the police.
 
@HopelessN00b yeah, got the same
 
34,589 items so far, or ~50 a day. Yippie.
 
I usually scan through them and then "delete all"
 
I keep them around as a flak shield. "Yeah, I would have done whatever you're bitching about now, but I was too busy with these hundreds of emails you make me get."
 
2:44 PM
I filter those into a folder and enable auto archive on it
 
I don't understand auto-archiving
 
Bob
@ewwhite People still voluntarily use POP3??
 
I have three more clients to fix.
but yeah... it's terrible
 
@Bob In the case of intermittent web access I could see it being useful...
 
@ewwhite why not? I get a ton of cron error mails. I auto delete them after 3 months
 
2:55 PM
Also, head currently exploding from the amount of tickets in my queue
@_@
 
Bob
@NathanC You'd have to get pretty damn intermittent for IMAP to fail.
At that point POP would still be quite shit.
 
Ugh, speaking of terrible shit... Windows Server 2003 SP2 virtual machine inside vCenter4.
We need an "upgrade your shit already, FFS" close reason.
 
@HopelessN00b Damn, even @cole isn't that outdated anymore
 
So I charged $4750 to perform a full exchange migration of a 40-user company. Does that seem horribly cheap?
 
yes
or horribly over-priced (100$ / mbx)
:)
 
3:03 PM
@ewwhite I dunno about Chicago, but that's pretty standard for around here.
 
@ewwhite Depends who you ask. For example, seeing how that's roughly double of what I make in a month, it's good. But for other highly-paid consultants, maybe not. :P
 
I think mbx migrations go for 10-20$ today
but that's for larger scale migrations of course
 
If I were to ever venture into the world of consultancy I'd need to move out of my state...heh.
 
@MichelZ Well, right, but it's not just a mailbox migration, it's migrating/upgrading a whole environment too.
 
Well, it was the full thing. Building VMware, building active directory, getting PCs onto the domain, migrating profiles, building Exchange, handling DNS/certs, firewall work, migrating users, importing PSTs, mobile device configuration, spam filtering.
 
3:05 PM
@NathanC I dunno. Exchange migrations are common enough and easy enough that they're kind of a bread-and-butter service for a lot of independent IT consultants.
 
@ewwhite uuuh, that's way too cheap then!
 
@ewwhite Yeah, for all that, way under-priced. I would have charged ~25 k.
 
But you know... produce. These are long-term engagements.
So I'll say, "hey, you probably need offsite replication for your VMs now... Add $400/mo. to replicate to my data center"
 
Enh, still. But if you've got a happy customer, and more money in your pocket, good on ya.
 
Hmm, made $12k off of this customer this year.
There's room for an increased based on successful work
 
Bob
3:09 PM
@ewwhite Migrating profiles... I'm having flashbacks...
 
@Bob I used the ForensIT tool.
quick
 
Bob
@ewwhite dammit why didn't I know about this earlier :(
 
Have a couple machines going W7->W7 ...I've been doing the migrations manually...
 
the forensic tool looks like it's basically a wrapper around the SID registry hack
 
@ewwhite I'm either doing it wrong, or just don't have the patience anymore for... people. Or a bit of both.
 
3:11 PM
:(
 
I tried starting my own side business, but there's a lot of competition in the area even though I'm ~10 minutes from a major uni.
 
Bob
@ewwhite We just did the new account, copy profile, deal with the fuckups routine
 
Don't have the cash for advertising. :(
 
I like this
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Q: How did the Marriott block wifi hotspots?

Tim TisdallAs per this article in CNN: Marriott fined $600,000 by FCC for blocking guests' Wi-Fi How is it possible to do what's described in this article? It's saying that they were able to block personal wifi hotspots while still allowing people to access only their wifi access points. It also says the...

 
@NathanC Well, being close to a big uni is probably why there's so much competition.
 
3:14 PM
@ewwhite it's asking people to guess
 
@HopelessN00b Yep...I counted 2 places in close proximity to it.
Plus there's the Overpriced Geek Squad
"$175 for a virus removal?!? Sign me up!!!" -Person who thinks expensive means it'll work
 
and migrated
 
de-auth flood
that must be fun to play with
must do that at next conference
:)
 
Bob
@ewwhite Block my wifi? Bah, that's what this handy cable is for.
 
@NathanC Well, that's something you can use to your advantage... if you were wiling to touch an end user with a ten foot pole... not sure I would.
 
3:19 PM
@NathanC oh yes I am
 
They only change $175? Must not be very good. I charge twice as much for the same thing, and I'm at least twice as good.
 
@HopelessN00b I'm not sure their exact pricing structure, but that was the ballpark.
@HopelessN00b I'd basically have to start with those types of users. Since I'm also working full time, I can't exactly work with businesses at the same time, ha.
@cole ...fair enough. Go back to your Lotus Notes!
:o
 
@NathanC tons of 2000.
 
@cole Yikes.
Next up on the chopping block?
 
lol
we don't have enough people to even try to start decomming them.
 
3:23 PM
@cole: just use a virus to destroy them :)
 
lol - I'd have to do the clean up
so
no thanks.
I haven't had a day off in like
2 months.
 
@cole Wait, vCenter4? Really? You're kiling me, man.
 
@HopelessN00b oh no, we have 5.5 vCenter - hosts running 5.1
 
don't the 2000 boxes cause more work?
 
nah
 
3:26 PM
@cole So you're not quite as out of date as that dude, then.
 
@HopelessN00b tons of W2K though.
 
@HopelessN00b win2k is more out-of-date than vcenter 4 :)
 
@MichelZ Only if/when they suddenly break or get hacked. 2k's actually pretty stable. As long as you don't need to ever administer them, they're low maintenance... especially now that they don't get any new patches. :)
 
@HopelessN00b they haven't got new patches in years
 
Exactly. Which means that much less effort in maintaining them.
 
3:29 PM
@HopelessN00b :)
 
Dan
Popped out to pick up some ingredients for tea - well, apparently supermarket marketing works on me. Would have been cheaper to get a takeway
 
@NathanC I prefer a blunt object. Something about that thwack of a blunt object impacting brain that makes the following silence that much sweeter.
 
Sysadmin confession: I have used "password" as the root password to a failover server because I couldn't think of anything else -.-
 
GET OUT
 
3:39 PM
@MichelZ nooo I changed it a few hours later I swear!
 
too late
compromised
also... shouldn't you use SSH Keys?
 
@MichelZ no ssh on that machine at the time I was using a serial monitor/keyboard :p ... changed it right after I got ssh running
And yes we use SSH keys
 
at least use p@$$w0rd
next time
:)
 
@Nick My own confession: Left a test/test account on a public-facing server by accident once. SSH had password enabled....didn't notice it for a few weeks until my host was reporting an abnormal amount of traffic.
 
@NathanC why do you even have passworded ssh? If you have to, use fricking port knocking
 
3:47 PM
@Nick If I remember right, it was a temporary server for something I was working on with a friend of mine. I was too lazy to create a "secure" environment, heh.
I learned though! :p
 
@Nick Port knocking's a horrible idea. Less entropy than even a weak password.
 
@HopelessN00b better than nothing
 
Luckily the only "damage" was an IRC flood bot...
I still nuked it from orbit, because you can never be sure.
 
@Nick Debatable. It's a bitch to troubleshoot, and sure to be compromised, so if I had to chose between the two, I'd probably choose nothing.
 

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