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Anonymous
12:03 AM
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@mossy and by something, you mean everything.
and its a black box cause you're a clueless idiot
 
mossy
mossy
@JourneymanGeek Something like that
@JourneymanGeek are we fighting right now?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
12:19 AM
are we?
 
mossy
mossy
i'm not sure
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
I think we're agreeing, with differing levels of sarcasm involved
 
mossy
mossy
i think you just called me an idiot
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
no, I call anyone who runs WAMP an idiot
 
mossy
mossy
Ohh. ok. lol
 
cole
cole
12:42 AM
 
84104
84104
@MikeyB Most important thing it to remember to <<EOF rather than do it within timeout.
 
Mark Henderson
Mark Henderson
Holy shit; I've been on PayPal for 10 years as of 01/01 and I've done $15,000 of purchases through them
I hate to think how much I've spent on ebay in the same time period
 
cole
cole
@MarkHenderson Wow. That's like $150 USD right?
:P
 
Mark Henderson
Mark Henderson
Fuck you
There was a time when one of my dollars was worth more than one of your dollars
 
cole
cole
doll hairs.
 
Mark Henderson
Mark Henderson
12:52 AM
Whoah, I've been an ebay member for 13 years
(almost)
Fucking ASA. Finally fixed my bug with a flapping IPSec tunnel - I had volume-based rekey turned off, but one of the ends was still trying to rekey every 40MB
That's been haunting me for months
thunks head
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
1:09 AM
@pauska and yet I'm getting laughed at for putting AD on Samba :D
 
Mark Henderson
Mark Henderson
@MikeyB I didn't laugh at you, I just don't fully understand
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@MarkHenderson Our business model is also driven by the directive to use open source wherever possible (and sensible).
 
Mark Henderson
Mark Henderson
@MikeyB Fair enough. Our business model is to what is the most cost effective; and most of the time that's buying something commercial so we don't have to roll our own
That... sounded way more snarky than I meant
I just meant we usually end up paying for things because a lot of open source is too labour intensive
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@MarkHenderson No, I get it :)
The Samba work is also driven by a few large clients who have suddenly come out of the woodwork to ask for Samba support. Gives us a good excuse to get fully boned up on it.
 
Anonymous
wtf the starwall
 
Anonymous
1:20 AM
first, all the stars are new
 
Anonymous
second, i don't see any mentions to wesley's lack of bike ownership, this must be fixed
2
 
jscott
jscott
@MikeyB Your twitterz might be compromised.
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
Yeah, I saw, thanks.
 
Mark Henderson
Mark Henderson
1:38 AM
lol
The sun still borrows vhs
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
Who gets this? @MDMarra ?
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
2:04 AM
10. Click Install. This step deletes the contents of the local drives of the vSphere hosts, formats the drives, and proceeds with the installation. You are prompted for confirmation to proceed with the installation.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
@ewwhite sup?
 
jscott
jscott
Deletes and formats. Well that should do.
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
@jscott I don't think I wanna install this.
@MDMarra Cubs new mascot
 
jscott
jscott
pedobear?
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
Pedobear?
 
jscott
jscott
2:09 AM
I thought it was a "kidnap van" joke.
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
@MDMarra NSFW... deadspin.com/…
 
jscott
jscott
But then I remembered kidnap vans don't have any windows except for the little, tinted bubble ones.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
Haha
Oh, Deadspin
 
jscott
jscott
2:35 AM
0
Q: Windows Batch File, Will this work?

BatchMastaWant to play a joke on my friend, and am not sure if this will work. @echo off echo Time to wipe your drive. pathping localhost -q 2 -p 250 > nul pathping localhost -q 2 -p 250 > nul pathping localhost -q 2 -p 250 > nul shutdown -f pathping localhost -q 2 -p 250 > nul pathping localhost -q 2 -p ...

windows batch-file
 
 
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Mark Henderson
Mark Henderson
3:54 AM
Blah some cuntmaster at our client site has gone and set the date formatting to the fucked up American system so now everything on the server that is expecting dates in dd/mm is exploding as there is no 14th month (it worked until the 13th; surprise surprise, it was just putting in the wrong dates without erroring out)
Their tech guy is refusing to put it back to the correct formatting
Why? How do these people get jobs?!
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@MarkHenderson I hate people like that.
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
@MarkHenderson Look for telltale signs of incompetence, such as a brown nose or tongue.
 
Mark Henderson
Mark Henderson
@MichaelHampton haha
 
jscott
jscott
Or the same last name as someone in management.
 
Mark Henderson
Mark Henderson
Thankfully I know his boss
@jscott Haha well his surname is Nguyen which is basically "smith"
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
4:02 AM
I thought Nguyen was Vietnamese for Jones
 
Mark Henderson
Mark Henderson
Maybe; it's incredibly common anyway
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
Well, yes, I get the idea
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
4:40 AM
Huh. Someone from a company called "스프링웍스" just tried to add me on LinkedIn. Their web site proudly proclaims, "our work is dedicated to the prosperity of our clients advance your duskiness," which definitely reaffirms my understanding that South Korea has the best Engrish in the entire world.
 
Falcon Momot
Falcon Momot
4:52 AM
ye gods Seattle is awesome.
 
 
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Magellan
Magellan
6:41 AM
@FalconMomot Even better in the summer.
 
Falcon Momot
Falcon Momot
Calgary is truly foul in the winter though
seattle is quite tolerable
 
Magellan
Magellan
6:57 AM
This is true. Had some co-workers in Edmonton at the previous job
I'd try to sync up for a beer or two, but I just got stuck on double shifts for the next couple weeks.
Well, not quite doubles. More like 12s 3 days of the week, 14s the other 2 and also on-call.
which reminds me. It's time to get some shuteye. Later gents.
 
Iain
Iain
G'day
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
@MDMarra You on? My client is having AD problems right now.
 
Falcon Momot
Falcon Momot
7:20 AM
@Magellan oh, edmonton is even worse. later.
 
Dennis Kaarsemaker
Dennis Kaarsemaker
7:48 AM
moin
 
pauska
pauska
8:14 AM
g'day
 
RobM
RobM
Morning all
0
Q: Force Windows PC to override GPO and get Windows Updates

tacos_tacos_tacosSuppose a very clever hacker applies a GPO that make Windows Update not work, then silently waits for a new Windows vulnerability to come out. All the while, domain PC are not able to download or apply Windows Updates as a result, and all domain machines will be vulnerable to the next exploit. I...

group-policy windows-update
facepalm
 
Iain
Iain
@RobM nice answer pity he deleted it
 
pauska
pauska
I was about to say - props for him for deleting it when he realized how dumb the question was
 
RobM
RobM
Yep, can't complain about that when there's plenty out there prepared to argue it up and down
 
Dan
Dan
9:00 AM
Morning
3
A: Scheduled Software Restriction GPO

DanNot with any of the vanilla Windows tools, I'm afraid. This is where classroom management solutions (Tutor, Impero etc) come in,

Who deleted my comments :(
And why can't I see them even at 10k, permadelete?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
I think deleted comments are permadeleted
 
RobM
RobM
yeah
 
Dan
Dan
Ah - all I did was call his answer crap
 
RobM
RobM
he can't handle the truth!
 
tombull89
tombull89
Remember I mentioned a few weeks ago about doing a silent VB install with key? Just got an answer on SO about inserting the key into the setup.
 
Iain
Iain
9:09 AM
@Dan deleted comments are not visible to normal users. They used to be perma deleted but now they are just hidden
 
tombull89
tombull89
Ignoring the fact I've done it already...
 
RobM
RobM
I blame devops ;-)
 
Dan
Dan
@Iain How dull
@tombull89 Useful :D
 
RobM
RobM
9:29 AM
I do remember it always being a sod to get visual studio to install silently
 
Dan
Dan
It's not really designed for it, I guess
It's a bit "big"
Uhm
 
RobM
RobM
Yeah, and I guess they figure you should see all the options. Which is nice for a dozen developers that really do all want to tweak how it works anyway, less so for educational "how do I roll it out to 1200 people, not 12!" people
that's some proper expensive lego
 
Dan
Dan
@RobM 1200 people that will use it 0.05% of its functionality
 
RobM
RobM
yeah, we've got one teacher here moaning that we've only installed VB Express and they want us to install the full VS package so they can have one extra feature
 
Dan
Dan
What's the feature?
 
RobM
RobM
9:32 AM
Now in a way I sympathise, if they really need to have their students do that one thing, its not their fault MS have made that difficult.
I can't remember, its not my call... it's some compilation option or other they need thats only in the full version
 
Dan
Dan
Annoying :(
 
RobM
RobM
yeah. It's gonna cause a lot of gyp I reckon. I think given how easy MS have made it to add it, we're gonna end up with some kind of compromise that will make both 'sides' unhappy.
 
tombull89
tombull89
Issue: Still doing Windows updates on these tablets. Idea: Get them to update from the School's WSUS server. Issue: It doesn't have local group policy (?!) or the registry keys to do so.
gah.
 
Dan
Dan
Windows RT?
 
tombull89
tombull89
8
 
Dan
Dan
9:38 AM
Proper 8?
 
tombull89
tombull89
Oh, feck.
Windows 8 Home Edition.
 
Dan
Dan
Oh haha
I think you can chuck the reg keys in for WSUS
 
tombull89
tombull89
It's weird, all the other tablets are fine with updating through Windows Updates but this one just goes "nope" and won't do it. Through both the school proxy and my MiFi dongle.
 
pauska
pauska
@Dan Yes, you can
 
Dan
Dan
@pauska Do you do it before or after "disappearing" the person who specced such shite?
 
pauska
pauska
9:44 AM
or wait, home edition.. hmm unsure
3.2 billion dollars.. jesus christ
 
Dan
Dan
That's a lot of money
I wonder what'll it be like when Google and Apple literally own the world
 
pauska
pauska
Well.. if this keeps up it's not going to be long: theregister.co.uk/2014/01/14/…
the big players will eat up any kind of patent holder to stay on top..
it's outright insane that software patents haven't been killed yet
 
Dan
Dan
The US patent system is so fucked up at this point
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
9:59 AM
@pauska: depends on your POV. Its probably a godsend for lawyers and unproductives
 
RobM
RobM
10:14 AM
@dan I had to comment on that wmi app blocking "answer"
 
Dan
Dan
@RobM I answered first and he responded with "Did you even Google?"
And then DV'd me :D
 
RobM
RobM
he's an ass
 
Dan
Dan
At least the OP saw sense
If I ever saw someone using WMI for that, I'd just cry
 
RobM
RobM
10:33 AM
he didn't like my comment
 
Dan
Dan
He's coming across as very foolish IMHO
 
pauska
pauska
Toshiba has launched a new series of ultrabooks that's really nifty.. SSD, 1.2 kilos and a docking port.. it's in the HP EliteBook range of specs
but.. 1366x768? :(
 
Dan
Dan
10:49 AM
I may need to buy 2x laptops and I'm not having much luck picking. So much choice
 
tombull89
tombull89
@Dan what do you need them for?
 
Dan
Dan
@tombull89 One for the missus to do some studying over the next couple of years. Looking to spend £3 - 400. May need one for me (Unless i can steal this one), but not really looked yet - probably the £800 mark
 
tombull89
tombull89
@Dan ah, right. Some of our staff laptops are HP EliteBooks 6560b machines - quite nice - but I guess they've been discontinued now.
 
Dan
Dan
Sure I'll found something eventually. I actually found that PC World had an okay selection
 
tombull89
tombull89
I was in PC world a few weeks back, I was quite surprised as they had a decent selection of Razer and Corsair gaming keyboards/mice. Still expensive, though.
 
Dan
Dan
11:12 AM
They've got better, but yeah
And they still try hard to sell up Norton etc
 
pauska
pauska
Yeah we bought a new elitebook recently, it's very nice but also very expensive
I'd take a look at those Toshiba Portege Z30's @Dan
great value
 
Dan
Dan
Will do, buddy
 
pauska
pauska
heh.. I'm tracing the package status of a new server we ordered
"2014-01-14 11:48 DK - SCHENKER CALCULATE ETA"
that's the latest status.. that they're calculating a ETA..
 
Dan
Dan
Helpful
 
tombull89
tombull89
11:31 AM
Status: Dunno, lol.
When I bought a server recently DPD delivered it. Ordered it on the weekend, got a text on Wednesday to say it'll be delievered Monday, then woke up Thursday to a text saying it would be delivered 9:57-10:57am that day.
 
pauska
pauska
11:58 AM
freight - hard stuff
they're calculating a freight time of two days from poland to Norway.. not bad if they can keep that promise
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
-1
Q: How to do sudo apt-get on an AIX machine

alvasI don't understand this AIX. How do I do sudo apt-get on AIX? -bash-3.00$ sudo -bash: sudo: command not found -bash-3.00$ apt-get -bash: apt-get: command not found

sudo apt-get aix
from the comments the guy is totally out of his depth :/
 
Iain
Iain
@JourneymanGeek yeah - lets hope they don't find us - it'll be a bloodbath
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Iain: honestly, the best solution here is bribery ;p
Thats not his only question, I'd add
 
pauska
pauska
12:17 PM
apt-get on AIX
 
Iain
Iain
:(
 
pauska
pauska
many lulz
 
Tom O'Connor
Tom O'Connor
Where shall I bump this to?
-2
Q: What is The Recommended Way of Sharing Project Files and Databases with Different Local Machines?

SisirI have a local project folder where I save all of my ongoing projects. How I am currently working is saving my project files on dropbox so I have can access it from both desktop and my laptop. I want to take it a step further where I can run and share the not only project files but also database...

project-management
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
/dev/null ?
 
pauska
pauska
someone should migrate that AIX question to U&L
They'll have a blast
 
Tom O'Connor
Tom O'Connor
12:18 PM
@JourneymanGeek I was thinking programmers.se
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@TomO'Connor: its kinda subjective
 
Iain
Iain
@TomO'Connor they'll just close it back at us ;)
 
Tom O'Connor
Tom O'Connor
@Iain SU?
 
pauska
pauska
in Unix and Linux, 15 secs ago, by pauska
Hey guys. We found a great question suited for U&L, should we get it migrated over?
snicker
 
Iain
Iain
it's not topical here - it doesn't have to have a life elsewhere
 
Tom O'Connor
Tom O'Connor
12:20 PM
@Iain It probably does, though.
 
Iain
Iain
@TomO'Connor SEP
 
pauska
pauska
programmers is the best fit
 
Tom O'Connor
Tom O'Connor
@Iain SEP?
 
pauska
pauska
he's basically asking for a database revision system
 
Tom O'Connor
Tom O'Connor
I'm tempted to ask OP to re-ask it on TSandI
 
pauska
pauska
12:20 PM
unless he also want the data synced..
 
Iain
Iain
Somebody Else's Problem
Somebody Else's Problem (also known as Someone Else's Problem or SEP) is a psychological effect where individuals/populations of individuals choose to dissociate themselves from an issue that may be in critical need of recognition. Such issues may be of large concern to the population as a whole but can easily be a choice of ignorance by an individual. Author Douglas Adams' description of the condition, which he ascribes to a physical "SEP field," has helped make it a generally recognized phenomenon. Somebody Else's Problem used to capture public attention on matters that may have been over...
 
Tom O'Connor
Tom O'Connor
Having re-read, how is it not just NAS + Git?
 
pauska
pauska
Do we know if the machines are all in the same network?
Dropbox kind of points the other way
and most databases won't let you just swap out the datafiles.. plus you'd need to build a system that makes sure that logfiles are empty when the dataset is copied over to the file share
 
Tom O'Connor
Tom O'Connor
@pauska Do we care?
 
pauska
pauska
@TomO'Connor ...
 
Tom O'Connor
Tom O'Connor
12:30 PM
@pauska Dropbox is NFS for the lazy.
 
pauska
pauska
You were the one asking if this could be solved with a NAS...
 
Tom O'Connor
Tom O'Connor
@pauska That's where I'd start, is what I meant?
 
pauska
pauska
NFS over the internet? no thanks..
 
Dan
Dan
@TomO'Connor I beg to differ!
 
Tom O'Connor
Tom O'Connor
@pauska Depends how good your internet is, actually.
ISTR Dropbox doing some kind of multicast LAN synchronisation on the same segment?
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
12:53 PM
Yarr!
 
mossy
mossy
1:06 PM
good morning
 
cole
cole
morning @mossy
Glad to see you in here more often I haveto say.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
@ewwhite sup
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
Mark.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
Hi
 
Dan
Dan
Booked in for my Citrix Expert exam! Probably £150 down the drain, but it's worth a shot
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
1:19 PM
Good luck!
 
cole
cole
@Dan good luck!
 
Dan
Dan
Cheers - it's a laugh!
 
Sysadmin1138 Expounds
Sysadmin1138 Expounds
SysAdmin1138 Expounds: NetWare Retrospective Part 1: Distributed databases
posted on January 14, 2014 by SysAdmin1138

Novell introduced NDS with NetWare 4.0 in 1993, and is still being shipped 21years later as part of Open Enterprise Server. For those of you who've never run into it, NDS (Novell Directory Services, currently marketed as eDirectory) is currently...

 
Iain
Iain
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
Error messages are only ever full of gobbledygook anyway.
 
cole
cole
1:28 PM
Reading is hard.
 
Iain
Iain
I guess
 
Dan
Dan
"Please contact your system administrator."

Shit
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
@Dan I hate it when my wife reads that out loud.
 
Dan
Dan
@ScottPack I hope she's talking about computer systems
 
Iain
Iain
@ScottPack Since I bought Jayne an iPAD I've heard that much less
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
1:32 PM
@Iain It does happen quite less frequently since she started using a Mac but it's still occasional.
 
Dan
Dan
@Iain I must admit! Though my Jane now needs a laptop anyhow
 
Iain
Iain
It's unlikely my $Jayne will need one - phew. I really do pity the guy who looks after the IT where she works though
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
Yeah, so my favorite thing is related to the layout app her company uses. It's all a Java webstart app. Even though you can open old projects with the current version of java they're almost unusably slow if a different version of java was around back then.
 
Dan
Dan
@Iain Haha :D
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
So I got to show her how to run different versions of javaws from the command line so she could use old projects. >_<
 
tombull89
tombull89
1:42 PM
@Dan "Please contact your system administrator." well I am the system administrator and I still have no clue.
large Admin printer is jammed as they've been feeding labels through it. There's no active support contract on it. This is gonna be fun.
 
Nathan C
Nathan C
It's all fun and games until our production software goes haywire...
 
tombull89
tombull89
It's all fun and games until someone unplugs the wrong cable.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@tombull89: and they're all yellow...
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
Do they make cables not yellow?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@ScottPack: I am told they do, you just need to talk to this guy, who knows some guys, who knows some guys.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
1:56 PM
Shun the nano user. SHUN HIM.
0
Q: Make nano wrap on $

bhttoanIs it possible to make nano wrap on $ on very long lines? I regularly have to check log file and then copy and paste the contents into an email for example (I want to use mouse select - Ctrl U does work but it is cumbersome especially with lots of lines) but all I can copy and paste is what is v...

centos nano
 
cole
cole
SHUN SHUN SHUN
 
pauska
pauska
I use nano :(
never bothered to learn something better
or well, I used 'ee' on FreeBSD
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
@JourneymanGeek I have seen green once or twice.
Oh, and Cisco ships a canary yellow cable that's a crossover
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
I stopped using it after it ate EOLs on a tftpd.conf file and made me troubleshoot it for hours.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
I have blues, greys and yellows.
oh and a flat black one.
 
cole
cole
1:58 PM
I only use vi or vim.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
(though, the current cable I am messing with seems incompatible with ipv6)
 
tombull89
tombull89
Our server room cables look like someone at a packet of Skittles and then vomited them back up.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
@cole I was going to say vi is an alias for vim, but you probably have systems old enough to have the original vi :)
 
tombull89
tombull89
(colourful, not messy)
 
cole
cole
@MDMarra I do.
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
1:58 PM
I've used nano a couple of times. Back when I was stabbing myself with Gentoo and before I installed vim.
 
cole
cole
:)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@tombull89: Its a home lan, so its whatever cables I can get my paws on
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
I remember pico being the default editor for pine.
 
cole
cole
Server room cables are: green, blue and orange. Blue = LAN Green=Backup network Orange=KVM
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
I haven't bought any cables in years. And I think I have a bunch of VERY long lan cables in a box somewhere from an old office setup...
 
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