The Comms Room

MDMarra

12:00 AM

@ewwhite Sorry brother, it was buffalo chicken legs. You understand, I'm sure.

Michael Hampton

@MDMarra That can't possibly compete with the Weapons of Ass Destruction.

Nathan C

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Q: MSSQL Login issues

I'm running a program that creates forms and posts it on to my website. The program works fine untill I enable DB access to upload entries. Hi Max I am creating an e-mail form with auto responder and darabase access. I'm running Inline image 1 Inline image 2 The program successfully uploads...

Um...

ewwhite

@mdmarra that's racist!!!

Nathan C

Someone literally copy/pasted a support ticket and didn't bother to check formatting lol

MDMarra

@ewwhite No! It's racist that a white guy can't eat some chicken and talk to a black guy about it without being called racists, you racists!

Michael Hampton

12:04 AM

@NathanC We're not even going to bother with "close" on that one.

Nathan C

Nuke it from orbit?

Michael Hampton

It's the only way to be sure.

MDMarra

wtf everyone has new avatars

Nathan C

I don't!

:p

MDMarra

@MichaelHampton is a fucked up ninja turtle. @JoelESalas is a chihuahua (racially fitting)

Michael Hampton

12:05 AM

Yes, everyone changed their avatar to make the chat room look busier and more confusing. But mostly more confusing.

Falcon Momot

nor I

MDMarra

@WesleyDavid is @RyanRies

Shit got so weird here

ewwhite

Still racist.

MDMarra

@ewwhite if this is a ten user site, can we just start over?

:)

Nathan C

@MDMarra Nuke ALL the VMs!

Joel E Salas

12:11 AM

@MDMarra So if I get the rep to 4k, you'll make it 10k

this will only end when I invite you to break into Prince's house with Ke$ha

ewwhite

@mdmarra as long as you don't lose anything. I have exchange running.

Nathan C

inb4 "oops"

ewwhite

@mdmarra we are driving in the new VW

MDMarra

@ewwhite cross-forest trust, mailbox move, done

New VW huh. What'd you end up buying her that doesn't need its oil changed?

ewwhite

We got the top of the line VW Tiguan SEL

MDMarra

12:16 AM

bling bling

Falcon Momot

@MDMarra For a moment there I thought you were referring to SF, not your site under configuration.

ewwhite

Yeah. Expensive. Ish.

MDMarra

@FalconMomot haha nope

ewwhite

No cross forest migration.

Michael Hampton

That was, what, a week's pay for you?

ewwhite

12:18 AM

The car? Oh.. A month's pay.

Her car, though. So she's paying.

MDMarra

@ewwhite sigh but I can control the condition of a new forest. I don't know what crazy voodoo you did in this current forest though :(

ewwhite

I don't know what i did

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MDMarra

:(

The other option is to move DHCP to a member server and replace both DCs

ewwhite

We can do that.

Driving with her. She leaves the car in gear!!! And doesn't shift to Park when waiting at drive-thru windows, bank lines, etc.

WesleyDavid

@ewwhite Is this a manual or auto?

Michael Hampton

12:24 AM

I don't put the car in park when I'm pulled over by the cops.

ewwhite

Auto. We are Americans!

WesleyDavid

@ewwhite I just press the clutch down and keep it in first. I'm a bad person. =(

@ewwhite And I think that's pretty much normal. Wether or not it's up to Motor Trend Anal Drivers of the Year is debatable, but in an auto, just keep it in gear if you're going to be moving forward in 30 seconds. =)

OH NOES @JSCOTT IS HERE!

jscott

@WesleyDavid No he is not.

Scott Pack

FOGEY ALERT FOGEY ALERT

Falcon Momot

@WesleyDavid At least you have a real transmission in your car.

WesleyDavid

12:28 AM

@FalconMomot When I'm driving a manual, anyway. I'm kind of between cars at the moment.

jscott

@WesleyDavid And between bicycles as well?

Falcon Momot

@WesleyDavid At least you admit that cars with an automatic transmission aren't real cars.

ewwhite

Between cars... Between bikes.

WesleyDavid

@jscott The last bicycle I owned... I was 17 I think, so I guess if half a life is "between bikes" then yes. =P

Nathan C

I want to dump this car badly but sadly....nope

Michael Hampton

12:37 AM

Dear gawd. Great ribs, terrible website.

ewwhite

Teaching wife about the VW's sport mode

jscott

@ewwhite Does it also do that VW thing where you can wind all the windows down using the key in the door locks?

ewwhite

Prolly

Nathan C

12:52 AM

@MichaelHampton It looks like someone just vomited stuff all over the place

ewwhite

Home safely...

Women aren't bad drivers, right?

@MDMarra are you ready to handle some AD work?

MDMarra

Right now?

Nathan C

@ewwhite Depends. Men can also just be as bad...

ewwhite

true...

but I think she accelerates too slowly.

Michael Hampton

Ha. I drive carefully and my gf is a maniac behind the wheel.

OK, I exaggerate. A bit.

Falcon Momot

1:00 AM

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Q: What is Canonical's LTS support policy for EOL software?

I'm using PHP 5.3 and need to remain on PHP 5.3 for the foreseeable future. Please don't suggest upgrading -- for my setup, it's simply not possible at this stage. I'm currently evaluating which OS to choose for my new server. I'd prefer to use Debian Wheezy (on which I'd leverage apt's pinning ...

security policy support

@MichaelHampton you ninja

ewwhite

@MichaelHampton Quick sanity-check... if you modify a partition table in fdisk and the partition table is in use... (assume boot drive block device), you need a reboot to see the new partition table

right

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite Yes, fdisk will print a warning in this case.

Reboot if you see the warning, otherwise just carry on.

ewwhite

coworker is asking.. I'm trying to help him

this is vmware, so I'm spouting off on why I always have a boot VMDK... 36GB or 72GB... then use separate VMDKs for growth partitions

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite Seems reasonable to me...hell, the installer will even take advantage of it

ewwhite

but you know how I don't do LVM...

It's nice to see my staff practicing on their own Linux systems to try these things.

Michael Hampton

1:18 AM

I'm not so sure about this LinkedIn thing anymore... I seem to have connections at... Microsoft.. and worse, Oracle!

ewwhite

There was a tricky client situation, and the on-call NOC engineer had a hard time with it. So he went home and spun-up with own VM to try to attack the problem

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite Those are going to be the good ones.

ewwhite

Gives me hope

@MichaelHampton So it was an LVM setup.. four partitions... on VMware. Client wanted 100GB added

Michael Hampton

lvextend...

ewwhite

well, VMware used to add to the VMDK.

I think my tech used a rescan to recognize new block device size...

then fdisk

Joel E Salas

1:54 AM

"How can I defense against DDoS attack on Squid?"

rofl

WesleyDavid

I've done it! I've cloned me! Prepare to be invaded, hoomans!

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@JoelESalas Step 1) Unplug server.

Joel E Salas

@WesleyDavid They're playing shadow of the colossus!

Michael Hampton

-2

Q: Unable to browse server shares *from one domain user account only*

We have an SBS 2003 server, with a Windows XP Professional (domain-joined) PC connecting from a remote site via VPN (LogMeIn Hamachi). Most domain user accounts work fine. However, one user account in particular is unable to browse any shares on the server from this PC (despite having the same s...

network-share

What is wrong with this question?

Joel E Salas

@MichaelHampton Hurr durr I join the VPN and AD doesn't work????

I have also edited the question and added the lsblk output. what to do next. can u give me some commands on what to do. — Pandora 46 secs ago

pls to give me the codes sir

Falcon Momot

2:10 AM

blargh

does SE have a site for windows reverse engineering?

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas I thought we had a dupe target for that question, but I can't find it.

Joel E Salas

@MichaelHampton "hurr durr my amazons" ?

Seriously, why do beginners use AWS

Michael Hampton

Joel E Salas

it's probably the hardest platform to target

Falcon Momot

@MichaelHampton Our god is an awesome god.

though... I'm not certain I'm allowed to publicly ask the question I need to ask.

aah well.

Michael Hampton

2:12 AM

@JoelESalas Why do beginners attempt to do anything?

Joel E Salas

@FalconMomot Man up

Michael Hampton

@FalconMomot It's the internet, nobody knows who you're pentesting.

Falcon Momot

:)

I am fairly certain that after a couple more months of this project my team will be the 4 most knowledgeable people about memory allocation on the planet.

ewwhite

Hmm, maybe some of you can solve my memory mystery.

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite It's cheap, buy more.

Joel E Salas

2:15 AM

@MichaelHampton I'm just saying, a VM on your laptop running Ubuntu is a much more sensible way to learn than expensive, hostile AWS

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Kevin Soviero

New rule: Natural peanut butter tastes terrible. That is all.

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas Oh, quite so. Hell, I was an AWS early adopter.

ewwhite

@MichaelHampton I did... went from 96GB to 192GB... Same swapping problem

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite That's because you're still using AMM

Falcon Momot

@KevinSoviero er, it tastes like peanuts.

ewwhite

2:16 AM

@MichaelHampton I pinned /dev/shm at 80GB

Falcon Momot

@ewwhite only if it relates to whether someone blew a buffer

Kevin Soviero

@FalconMomot Perhaps, but it also may suffocate you if you're not careful.

Falcon Momot

@KevinSoviero as with water. and bees.

Kevin Soviero

@FalconMomot Bees?

Michael Hampton

You should look into grep/egrep. — Michael Hampton 4 mins ago

Falcon Momot

2:17 AM

@KevinSoviero Sure. If you are sufficiently careless you could choke on bees and die a terrible, excruciating death.

Michael Hampton

Of course, my first thought about AWS back in 2007 was "Who the hell would ever use this?"

Falcon Momot

I think I either need less office scotch, or more.

Kevin Soviero

@FalconMomot Would that actually kill you? Assuming you have average access to medical attention, of course.

Falcon Momot

@KevinSoviero People choke on things and die all the time.

!!! someone finished off the scotch and put the empty bottle back in the exact same place on my desk that they found it.

Scott Pack

@FalconMomot I'm quite enjoying a tender mixture of anti-malarial and a herbal infusion.

Michael Hampton

2:19 AM

@FalconMomot I bet it was that @FalconMomot guy.

Scott Pack

@MichaelHampton Yeah, that guy's a doucheramjet.

Falcon Momot

@ScottPack We had balvenie 12 year double-wood, once. alas, it is kaput.

Scott Pack

@FalconMomot You at work now?

Falcon Momot

@ScottPack Yeah. mostly slacking and trying to avoid rush hour, which is now over, so I may head home

Scott Pack

@FalconMomot Sounds terrible.

Falcon Momot

2:21 AM

I was reverse engineering before, but these 12 hour days reverse engineering with almost nothing to show for it except one flag tentatively defined in one structure...

it gets draining.

Scott Pack

That's why I make sure to do work that doesn't result in spinning wheels or any kind of cultural resistance. Things like Vulnerability Management and Intrusion Detection.

Falcon Momot

bahahahahahaha

I really don't want to look at the target anymore today

and tomorrow, I have a once-a-quarter 0700 meeting.

Scott Pack

@FalconMomot Ok. Now that's terrible.

Falcon Momot

Scott Pack

If it's any solace I'm trying desperately to put words to paper on my research.

Falcon Momot

2:26 AM

see, I find that easy

I actually enjoy technical writing

Scott Pack

I've never been a fan of writing. I'm wondering how many drafts my advisor will take me through.

Falcon Momot

beating my head against a brick wall trying to figure out the intent of obfuscated code looking for data that might not even exist in it in order to try and meet requirements laid out by someone who apparently didn't know whether they were possible and who quit a few months after writing them, not so much.

Scott Pack

How is that different from normal code?

Falcon Momot

normally you have source tree access or something

I have ida.

oh, and the people whose software is being targeted in this specific case aren't exactly amenable to what is going on either.

(got a few RE projects on the go right now)

Scott Pack

I've had to deal with far too many uncooperative clients. It's never a good day.

Falcon Momot

2:31 AM

the client is allowed to contract us to reverse engineer the product, but did not write the product.

that type of engagement is surprisingly common

like, someone hires a security firm to audit some software they are evaluating, over the objections of the licensor

or dragging the licensor kicking and screaming to the audit as a condition of sale on a $20m contract

Scott Pack

Messy.

Falcon Momot

and then we cause out of cycle patches :)

<3 out of cycle patches

people like me enjoy causing them always, but doubly so when the people writing them were uncooperative.

it's revenge. :)

Scott Pack

I can relate. :)

There are certain people who provoke rather obscene levels of expectant pleasures when I see their requests come through my queueueueueueueue.

@FalconMomot Have you ever considered checking out Sec.SE? It seems like you might find some of the content interesting.

Honestly, I try to avoid all that programming gobbeldy gook, but there does end up being a fair bit of it.

Michael Hampton

Falcon Momot

@ScottPack I have a little rep there. However, mainly I'd be repeating myself ad nauseam. The stuff around here is different enough from work that it doesn't feel like work.

Scott Pack

2:43 AM

@FalconMomot I can buy that. It's somewhat similar for me. I feel like I can end up being much more relaxed and off-the-cuff when I give an answer on SF.

Falcon Momot

That too.

Cole

think my TV is dying D:

Michael Hampton

@Cole Your butt.

Cole

I'll have to call Samsung tomorrow

Falcon Momot

well, off to expense more booze and go to bed.

Scott Pack

2:46 AM

I seriously need to call either AT&T or TimeWarner. I need to get some kind of Internets turned on as close to Aug 1st as possible.

Michael Hampton

AT&T blows. So does Time Warner, but not nearly as bad as AT&T.

Scott Pack

@FalconMomot Lucky you. I'm trying to force myself to churn out another section before my battery runs out.

@MichaelHampton That's pretty much my feelings on the matter.

They're also the only two proper ISPs at the new house.

Journeyman Geek

4:44 AM

@WesleyDavid at karaoke night...

Michael Hampton

If you want to clean up some crap, start with the home page.

WesleyDavid

@JourneymanGeek AAANDDDDD IIIIII-EEEE-IIIIIII WILL ALWAAAAAYS LOOVEE YOUUUUUUUUUU-OOOOOOOOO!!!

Journeyman Geek

lol

right after...

(sorry about the double pictures, this is off DRB ;p)

WesleyDavid

4:59 AM

@JourneymanGeek let's put another coat of paint on this lonesome old town... hic You wear a dress, baby I'll wear a tie... gerblorrgghhhh

Journeyman Geek

no, YOU wear the dress. I'll wear the tie.

... and pants if I can find them

WesleyDavid

Joel E Salas

5:42 AM

alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/virtio-win/latest/images/bin/bin/…

lol symlinks

Michael Hampton

Jenny D

5:58 AM

Morning

Dennis Kaarsemaker

'ello

Iain

G'day

Graham Perrin

6:38 AM

The following question was closed as off-topic from Stack Overflow. Might it be moved to Ask Different?

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Q: Darwin kernel disk device to pass disk arbitration

So I ported latest ZFS to OSX (github/osx.zfs), then added ZVOL as it is something I wanted. Now the pure BSD kernel side of things do appear to work, but I am having issues with Apple specific integration. I'm just missing a piece of the puzzle. I create the new virtual disks (ZVOLs) similar t...

kernel device disk darwin zfs

Michael Hampton

7:03 AM

@GrahamPerrin No idea, this is Server Fault.

tombull89

7:35 AM

It's quiet...too quiet.

Iain

@RobM your last comment (+1 btw) was broadly going to be my next one when Laura offers more crappy argumentation

RobM

cheers @iain

I just hate being patronised like that.

tombull89

Last one off the site, turn off the lights.

Iain

7:53 AM

@tombull89 strangely enough I was just randomly reading @GraceNote's meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/182031/… but it's unlikely it will come to that. More likely is other people will take over from the people that fall away but they won't hang around for so long (as we see already) because there is too much shit to wade through.

Lucas Kauffman

8:18 AM

why, of all stackexchange sites, would you come to SF if you want people to take your "feeling" into account

Iain

@LucasKauffman That's pretty random

Lucas Kauffman

@Iain it was about the comment of @RobM

plus the OP's comments and remarks were not valid anyway

Iain

I'm obviously missing something

Tom O'Connor

8:37 AM

@Iain I'm definitely missing something.

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Q: High performance CentOS server for PostgreSQL 9.2

I have bought for my company a Xeon server 3.3 Ghz(4 core) with 16GB ram and two 15krpm 6Gbps sas disks in Raid1 with Perc h200 controller, and I installed Centos 6.4 64 Bit with Postgres 9.2. My intention is to install a high performance server for Postgres, but when I restore a database the obt...

centos database postgresql centos6

Suggestions.. I almost like this as a question, but it's very broad.

Iain

I just commented on that - as written it's unanswerable as we don't know how it's performing poorly - it's like saying my car doesn't perform well

Tom O'Connor

8:53 AM

@Iain I suspect 2 is not enough disks to get enough IOPS to satisfy his lustful habits.

Also, turns out you can't link to Quora in an answer.

Michael Hampton

@TomO'Connor Why would you even want to?

Journeyman Geek

@TomO'Connor: or the wrong sort of disks

Tom O'Connor

9:34 AM

@MichaelHampton attribution links.

Tom O'Connor

9:50 AM

"Oh, just fuck off".

-1

Q: expect tool that fit for WIN XP

I searching for expect version that fit for WIN XP I already installed tcl version - Tcl8.5.14 , but I can’t find expect version that fit for tcl8.5.14 Please advice from where I can download expect version for WIN XP ? And how to installed the expect in tcl ENV thanks

windows-xp automation expect tcl

tombull89

Should I be glad I don't know what TCL is?

Tom O'Connor

@tombull89 Probably.

Tcl

Tcl (originally from Tool Command Language, but conventionally spelled "Tcl" rather than "TCL"; pronounced as "" or "tee-see-ell") is a scripting language created by John Ousterhout. Originally "born out of frustration", according to the author, with programmers devising their own languages intended to be embedded into applications, Tcl gained acceptance on its own. It is commonly used for rapid prototyping, scripted applications, GUIs and testing. Tcl is used on embedded systems platforms, both in its full form and in several other small-footprint versions. The combination of Tcl and ...

tombull89

Older than me. Nice.

Tom O'Connor

Expect is vaguely useful, but nasty to use.

PyExpect is a far nicer way to do it.

@tombull89 That's not difficult.

I'm older than you.

tombull89

@TomO'Connor Yes, but you're not a programming language.

Are you?

Tom O'Connor

10:04 AM

@tombull89 I might be!

I wouldn't know.

Turns out, I am!

TOM (object-oriented programming language)

TOM was an object-oriented programming language developed in the 1990s that built on the lessons learned from Objective-C. The main purpose of TOM was to allow for "unplanned reuse" of code via a well-developed extension mechanism. This concept was introduced seemingly by accident in Objective-C and later proved to be of wide use, and was applied aggressively in TOM. The primary changes in TOM are the addition of multiple inheritance, tuples as a first-class part of the language, cleaner syntax, free of the C requirements for header files and pre-compiler commands, and the ability to us...

Tom (pattern matching language)

Tom is a programming language particularly well-suited for programming various transformations on tree structures and XML based documents. Tom is a language extension which adds new matching primitives to C and Java as well as support for rewrite rules systems. The rules can be controlled using a strategy language. Tom is good for: * programming by pattern matching * developing compilers and DSL * transforming XML documents * implementing rule based systems * describing algebraic transformations External links * [http://tom.loria.fr/ Tom language website] * [http://gforge.inria.fr/pro...

Iain

ay serverfault.com/a/522202/9517 ?

Tom O'Connor

@Iain And it's gone.

Iain

@TomO'Connor cheers

Tom O'Connor

@Iain I've locked it as Historically Significant.. I think we could do that a lot more, actually.

Iain

@TomO'Connor I used to lock/protect stuff as and when I found them. Don't forget to select permanent - I did a few times before I realised you had to do so even on historical stuff

I even made the front page of HN because I forgot to make one permanent.

Tom O'Connor

10:14 AM

@Iain Oops. Yeah.

Protect isn't anywhere as useful as a modtool as a Lock

Where's the "You're too stupid to use a computer" option: serverfault.com/questions/522200/…

Iain

@TomO'Connor It would stop shit like the above

@TomO'Connor just walk away - it should be on SU but why inflict it on them ?

Tom O'Connor

@Iain Might just purge comments first.

@Iain It's not on topic for SU. Might be on SO, but I bet they don't want it either.

tombull89

My boss is out today - his auto-office reply is in Comic Sans D:

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The Unusual

i have postgres database server query,, can any 1 plz

@TomO'Connor @tombull89 @lain

tombull89

10:29 AM

DO NOT drop into a chat room to ask a question and DO NOT ping the currently-active users.

Tom O'Connor

Especially not a moderator.

tombull89

I know nothing about Postgres so your (and mine) time is wasted.

Tom O'Connor

Our topic states: "This is NOT a place for 'Live Support', ask on the main site.".

The Unusual

okies..

Tom O'Connor

But if it's about how to structure a query, go visit dba.stackexchange.com

if it's about how to use it in code, go visit stackoverflow.com

if it's about how to do something with Postgres server, scaling, replication, then ServerFault is on topic, but only if you're using it in a professional context.

@tombull89 Channeling a teacher, right there.

tombull89

10:32 AM

@TomO'Connor It's the heat, I swear.

Tom O'Connor

@tombull89 Aircon, baby.

tombull89

@TomO'Connor We do have aircon in the office, but it goes off when we leave the room. So when we come back the room is quite toasty.

The Unusual

I have a db server in start mode , when i start it with pgadminIII client usin credentials its responds me Ident authentication failed , but the credentials are exact one ,, how can i resolve it ?

tombull89

...

Tom O'Connor

@tombull89 WTF?

@TheUnusual I asked you nicely to ask a question on the main site.

Now you're still not getting the picture.

@TheUnusual serverfault.com/questions/ask

I do actually know how to answer your question, but until you ask it on the main site, I won't.

The Unusual

10:38 AM

okies..

Tom O'Connor

also, for reference, googling "ident authentication failed" found me this on the first page

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Q: psql: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "postgres"

I have installed PostgreSQL and pgAdminIII on my Ubuntu Karmic box. I am able to use pgAdminIII successfully (i.e. connect/log on), however when I try to login to the server using the same username/pwd on the command line (using psql), I get the error: psql: FATAL: Ident authentication failed ...

postgresql

Which is exactly the same problem.

Which historically, probably belongs on SF, but that's not the point.

The Unusual

@TomO'Connor sorry for the disturbance ... i came across all those things .,,

Tom O'Connor

Well, that'd explain why the internet feels sticky today.

tombull89

chuckle

Tom O'Connor

I love it when someone says "I recently came into some money"

The Unusual

10:42 AM

im in the list

Tom O'Connor

@TheUnusual Still not getting the "ask a question on the main site" thing there..

The Unusual

ok

tombull89

in The Heap, 12 mins ago, by The Unusual

Hi i have query in postgres server can any body please

in The Heap, 5 mins ago, by gbn

Have you asked a question on the main site?

shakes head

Tom O'Connor

What is your major malfunction?

I mean, I've asked you numerous times to ask a question on the main site.. You keep pootling around and not actually asking a question on the main site.

If you want to get people to answer your question, please ask a question on the main site.

Please.

I'm begging you.

Ask a question on the main site.

cries

tombull89

@benisuǝqbackwards We have a special selection of garments that have been worn for WEEKS by our system administrators and not yet washed for those that attempt to acquire swag by such means. If you want the equivalent of a wearable, warm and slightly damp embrace from Peter Grace to go with your ill gotten swag - go for it. — Tim Post 4 hours ago

Tom O'Connor

10:52 AM

@tombull89 I'd like a Peter Grace hug.

I've had a Nick Cardillo hug.

I don't quite recall why, but I think he was drunk.. Or I was.

tombull89

Well, maybe when you work for SE...

Tom O'Connor

I don't get anywhere near enough hugs.

Stack Exchange

11:05 AM

This is roughly equivalent to 'number of times I've picked up a seashell at the ocean' / 'number of times I've picked up a seashell', which in my case is pretty close to 1, and gets much closer if we're considering only times I didn't put it to my ear.

Travis

11:38 AM

@Cole How do you deal with HEAP fragmentation?

dawud

@Travis java's heap?

ewwhite

Who is monopolizing the star wall?

Iain

@ewwhite strictly speaking no one

ewwhite

Tom versus Tom?

Travis

@dawud SQL

ewwhite

11:47 AM

@Iain All of my friends are beating me on Strava.

I like riding, but I'm valuing my downtime, too.

Iain

@ewwhite I am doing quite well on Strava but I am only riding 3/4 times a week

ewwhite

@Iain I have a good 4-ride week last week with the holiday

but it's Wednesday, and I've not ridden this week

so hot and humid here

Iain

@ewwhite It is hot here but not too humid and spinning along the lanes in the cool evening is bearable, especially with the roses and honeysuckle filling the air with perfume

ewwhite

For us, it's bullets flying through the air and Mexicans throwing trash at you on the road.

(not racist... just a function of the area...)

There's this thing here where the lawncare workers in the wealthy areas throw bottles at cyclists...

jscott

@ewwhite Surprised the wealthy are alright with bottles thrown onto their lawns/streets.

ewwhite

11:55 AM

They're fine as long as their lawns are taken care of.

2 miles from home, I have to ride through this community named Kenilworth

Kenilworth, Illinois

{| class="mbox-small" style="text-align:center;border:1px solid #aaa; background-color:#f9f9f9;" ! colspan="4" style="text-align:center;border-top:none;"| Demographics (2010) |- | White | Black | Asian |- | 97.4% | 0.3% | 1.3% |- | Islander | Native | Other | Hispanic(any race) |- | 0.00% | 0.1% | 0.9% | 1.6% |} Kenilworth is a village in Cook County, Illinois, United States, north of downtown Chicago. As of the 2010 census it had a population of 2,513. In January 2011, F

jscott

• Median home value $1,000,000+ Whoa...

ewwhite

and it's where all of the magic happens... I've been pulled over by the police on foot, bike and car! The lawncare workers spit and throw bottles... A big dog barked at me...

it's usually ranked the 2nd most expensive suburb around... so it's ultra-rich

jscott

Dogs... ah they'll bark at anything. Bikes, skateboards, motorcycles

ewwhite

They didn't allow Jews for a looooong time.

Tom O'Connor

Kenilworth

Kenilworth (pronounced ) is a town and civil parish in Warwickshire, England, about southwest of Coventry, north of Warwick and northwest of London. The town is on Finham Brook, a tributary of the River Sowe, which joins the River Avon about east of the centre of the town. The 2001 Census recorded a parish population of 23,219. Kenilworth is notable for the extensive ruins of Kenilworth Castle. Other local sights include the ruins of Kenilworth Abbey in Abbey Fields park, St Nicholas' Parish Church and Kenilworth Clock. History A settlement existed at Kenilworth by the time of the...

sounds about as bad.

jscott

11:59 AM

I don't even understand how "didn't allow" would work when it comes to money. Is their money stamped with the Star of David or something?

ewwhite

@jscott It was a WASPy area... jews, blacks, whatever... excluded

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