The Comms Room

MDMarra

12:00 AM

And it's free

WesleyDavid

@MDMarra Did you just say dislike? I'm so puking in your slippers.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@voretaq7 we have a few thousand of them, so that's not really a point :)

MDMarra

And you can do cool stuff like DNS delegations if you want

@WesleyDavid yuck

voretaq7

@MDMarra that's all well and good, but that's not what the Win2K AD Class (and associated books) had you do :)

r.tanner.f

Okay, yeah, IE is crapping itself without the www. I'll have to remember that subdomain bit if I ever convince them to do a rename...

MDMarra

12:01 AM

@voretaq7 Oh fair enough

voretaq7

@MDMarra (which is probably why everybody got it all twisted and fucked up)

MDMarra

Also the fact that SBS shipped with .local as the default suffix didn't make it look like MS knew what they were doing

voretaq7

@MDMarra .fuck

WesleyDavid

I'm hungry.

2

^ I always laugh at that one.

r.tanner.f

ahh, beer time finally

voretaq7

12:03 AM

Meat Loaf

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And now, GoHome Time. :flushes question toilet:

Cole

@WesleyDavid LOL

MDMarra

I'm going to write a canonical "What should I name my Active Directory Domain" question

WesleyDavid

@MDMarra Will you once and for all tell those feckwads off who say "DON'T USE A .COM!!"

@voretaq7 Was it not a tad weird when he was on that Ghost Adventures show in, I think Tennessee? Some concrete factory that killed a bunch of people.

MDMarra

@WesleyDavid yeah

not tonight though

studying for a certification and I also need to do work for @ewwhite at some point

That some point may be tomorrow though at this rate

WesleyDavid

@MDMarra Schweet.

Warning: Murderous concrete factory at large! Last seen feasting on basalt and downtrodden masses.

ewwhite

12:08 AM

Crappy interview?

MDMarra

@ewwhite meh

sounds like a datacenter ops job

yuck

WesleyDavid

@MDMarra Y U NO LIKE?!

MDMarra

they said "it's half working with servers, half with vmware"

WesleyDavid

Depends on the DC role I guess but that sounds fresh to deff.

MDMarra

it sounded like "working with servers" meant physically working with servers

like racking shit

I got the feeling that it was racking shit, installing esxi, lather rinse repeat

WesleyDavid

12:09 AM

@MDMarra That can be cool - but not every day. I do like getting my hands dirty with cabling and velcro though.

@MDMarra Rackmonkey. Ew.

MDMarra

I don't mind that twice a year

WesleyDavid

Hmmm... a facilities management business down the road from me needs an administrator...

MDMarra

Is it soulcrushing

Because that's the type of job that you deserve

WesleyDavid

@MDMarra I'm a ginger cat. Nothing to crush.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

gingers have soul. Many souls even, they stole them all.

Cole

12:16 AM

Ugh so hungry, wat do I want

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Cole pie!

Cole

@DennisKaarsemaker I think I want Chinese

Dennis Kaarsemaker

Peking duck?

Michael Hampton

@MDMarra Not really a duplicate; it's more off topic.

mossy

@Cole oriental food. Any kind.

Cole

12:19 AM

@mossy my thoughts exactly

mossy

:D

WesleyDavid

@mossy Strangled rat?

mossy

@WesleyDavid Cat

That's not real :|

Cole

Maybe thai

WesleyDavid

freiheit

12:21 AM

@WesleyDavid You're gonna eat some dude's tongue for dinner?

WesleyDavid

@freiheit If I can get someone to respond to my Craigslist ad, yeah.

mossy

Lol

WesleyDavid

@mossy Less laughing, more eating:

freiheit

@WesleyDavid Note to self: never respond to any CL ad from WesleyDavid

mossy

Cole

12:27 AM

Getting thai food

yum yum

spicy pad thai

mossy

Good choice.

ewwhite

just fixed an annoying IOS6 and Exchange 2010 Autodiscover issue!

WesleyDavid

@ewwhite Was it star records in DNS? Or mistyped SRV records? Those are big gotchas.

Or was the MAPI client settings on Exchange set to deny the wrong version range? Also a gotcha sometimes it people get too adventurous.

ewwhite

@WesleyDavid Nope... "Default domain" definition in IIS

WesleyDavid

@ewwhite IIS. Blah.

mossy

12:51 AM

Hmm. Maybe I'll get a VPS and test varnish and nginx this weekend.

What do you think @WesleyDavid.

Michael Hampton

@mossy I think you'll like them both.

mossy

Should I be productive or sleep

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@mossy yes

Cole

omg so good

Michael Hampton

@mossy Sleep is for the week.

Cole

12:55 AM

@MichaelHampton yes. sleep is for a period of 7 days

I think that's called a coma

maybe?

@mossy what time is it where you are

mossy

almost 8pm

Cole

@mossy oh well stay up

8PM is nothing

<-probably asleep by 9

Dennis Kaarsemaker

2am here

mossy

haha.

Cole

@DennisKaarsemaker you're a champ

Dennis Kaarsemaker

12:57 AM

no, just to lazy to go to bed :)

Cole

@DennisKaarsemaker er?

mossy

Ok, Varnish it is.

Cole

How does that work? lol

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Cole, I'd need to walk up the stairs

mossy

should I endorse rackspace and their over priced "cloud servers"

Cole

12:59 AM

@DennisKaarsemaker ah then yes I see your problem

Michael Hampton

Heh, Rackspace cloud is so overpriced I have never used it or sent anyone there.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@mossy depends on how well you like the people you're recommending it too

Guillochon

Howdy, anyone have much experience with rsnapshot?

mossy

@MichaelHampton It's fast though.

WesleyDavid

@Guillochon Nope - just rsync. I do like what I've seen of the concept of rsnapshot, but not used it. =/

Guillochon

1:02 AM

@WesleyDavid I'm just running into some errors

Michael Hampton

@mossy What, do they have storage on the wings of high-speed angels?

WesleyDavid

@Gui

=)

mossy

@MichaelHampton Something like that

Michael Hampton

Heh, Azure's fast too, and half the price.

Guillochon

I can ssh into a server, I can rsync to a server, but rsnapshot throws an error

WesleyDavid

1:03 AM

@Guillochon what's it say?

Guillochon

/opt/local/bin/rsnapshot daily: ERROR: /opt/local/bin/rsync returned 255 while processing root@server.com:/directory

googling reveals little...

WesleyDavid

@Guillochon hrm

Guillochon

I am connecting to the server via an ssh key, not a password

WesleyDavid

Does anything copy at all? Just dirs? No dirs?

Guillochon

So it's possible for some reason that through cron that that fails

Nothing

Cole

1:07 AM

sorry about that, stupid cat

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Guillochon rsync never exits with 255, so i'ts execve() that returns -1 and rsnapshot using that as exitcode

is rsync on your system really in /opt/local/bin/rsync?

WesleyDavid

@Guillochon The root users email have anything in it from rsync or another services? /var/log/message?

Cole

255 is generally unsuccessful SSH

Guillochon

yes rsync is really there

let me look at the message

I should clarify I'm on OS X

I have no /var/log/message

WesleyDavid

OS X. -.-

Dennis Kaarsemaker

1:10 AM

oh, no professional environment then

Guillochon

I actually think that it's this: /opt/local/bin/rsync -a --delete --numeric-ids --relative --delete-excluded --rsh="/usr/bin/ssh -i /Users/username/.ssh/rsync-key"

that's the problem, for some reason it doesn't use my id_rsa file

WesleyDavid

@DennisKaarsemaker I think the Apple StackExchange might be helpful? Or the UNIX&Linux SE?

Guillochon

it's using some copy of it?

i'm not even sure how the rsync-key file got there

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@WesleyDavid no idea. Stopped caring at the osx :)

mossy

@MichaelHampton Should I also switch to vim?

Michael Hampton

1:11 AM

@mossy Depends on what you're using now.

MDMarra

<3 OS X

mossy

@MichaelHampton >.>
<.<

nano.

@MDMarra ME too

Dont tell anyone.

NANO

1:12 AM

@mossy Yes, you should take off the training wheels immediately.

WesleyDavid

@MDMarra I like it as a desktop OS but don't want to do anything with it outside of the pretty clicky buttons that Apple gives you. Anything deeper and things get... weird. Even for me.

@Guillochon So how did you get rsnapshot onto the machine? What repo or build site?

mossy

@MichaelHampton I always end up button mashing and fucking my config files up

Guillochon

fink i believe

Michael Hampton

@mossy And once you've mastered vim, we'll introduce you to a new operating system: emacs.

Guillochon

actually no, macports

WesleyDavid

1:13 AM

@Guillochon And this is rsnapshot to a local storage device?

Ack, gotta run

Guillochon

Yeah...actually, I think I've tracked down the problem

It's because rsnapshot uses a custom SSH keypair

I have to copy the public half to my authorized_keys on the server

Cole

holy hell I ate too much

mossy

Ok. I'm sure i'll return soon frustrated as hell.

Cole

nano makes me cry.

I'm a vi/vim guy.

I can edit the fuck out of files now

ewwhite

@MDMarra about to start the Exchange migration at Valley!

Dennis Kaarsemaker

1:16 AM

%s/fuck// # edit the fuck out

Cole

@DennisKaarsemaker LOL

Guillochon

Alright, that was the problem.

Zoredache

@mossy Setup X11 forwarding and use a GUI editor?

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Zoredache gvim? :)

mossy

@Zoredache Nah. I want to learn.

I just complain a lot.

Zoredache

1:20 AM

Sure. Though SciTE is pretty nice.

MDMarra

@ewwhite Just finished dinner. Do you need just GPO stuff tonight?

ewwhite

@MDMarra PST imports... although, I guess I can do those manually.

GPO stuff needs to be done this weekend.

MDMarra

I can give you a hand with them if you want. I'll handle the GPO stuff tonight or tomorrow

Cole

@mossy once you learn vi a little bit, you'll never want to use anything else.

I've only ever used vi. At first I was like "this fucking sucks"

Journeyman Geek

@Cole: trying to start a religious war? ;p

/me favours nano and ne

Cole

1:31 AM

@JourneymanGeek OUT. OUT WITH YOU

Journeyman Geek

which, I need to remember to install on my new linux partition ;p

Cole

Don't do it!

mossy

@Cole Yeah, every time I open something in nano I think "Why am I still using this... Learn vi you lazy ass". And then I ctrl+v ctrl+y to where I need to go. Save. done.

Cole

Erg I just can't do it

Fucking facial hair = acne city

Journeyman Geek

lol

I just stole my mom's facewash. Some wierd indian brand. Its magical ;p

Cole

1:34 AM

It's not a ton, but I've never had acne.

MDMarra

@JourneymanGeek nano fucks up newlines and tab spacing

Journeyman Geek

@MDMarra: really?

I mostly use it to edit config files, never really had an issue with it.

MDMarra

I couldn't figure out why my xinetd.conf wasn't working for like a whole day when I was a n00b

Opening in vi showed that the tabs and wrap were mangled

vi handled it fine

Cole

Guess I got lucky with starting out on vi

Michael Hampton

ZZ

MDMarra

1:35 AM

Ever since then, haven't been back

mossy

Like right now.

WTF is it doing.

Cole

I'm so exhausted, haven't slept really in days with the excitement/anxiety.

MDMarra

less tits, more sleep

2

Cole

Probably the only time I'd agree with that.

mossy

oh this is kind of cool.

Cole

1:41 AM

This is nuts. I can make what I make here in MA, in ATL but CoL is SO low.

mossy

@Cole Will have to alias nano lol.

Cole

time to go lay down, I feel like shit

later

Scott Pack

@WesleyDavid I agree completely. I'll use macports to get some other shellish utilities, but that's about it. I'm not insane enough to go installing Amarok of Apache on OSX. There be dragons....

WesleyDavid

2:20 AM

@ScottPack That's twice you've agreed with me today... suspicious glance <_<

@Guillochon Good man! Now blog about it for posterity? =)

@MDMarra I had a question for you I thought up at dinner, and now I've forgotten it.

Oh, and lookie lookie, we would never have known about the rsnapshot / keypair solution if we hadn't let a little live support in.

YOU ARE A DEBASED, RETREATING, SCUZZMONKEY, @MDMARRA!

Live support 4 EVAH!!!

Journeyman Geek

apache should work. Amarok.. less so ;p

WesleyDavid

@JourneymanGeek How's school, gangstah?

Journeyman Geek

still trying to catch up ;p

good thing is this term I am doing the same subject (knowledge management) from opposite perspectives ;p

WesleyDavid

@JourneymanGeek What's your timeline? How many more credits do you need for the big kahuna?

@JourneymanGeek Sounds kewl.

Journeyman Geek

this trimester, then next

WesleyDavid

2:32 AM

@JourneymanGeek Got any work?

Journeyman Geek

not at the moment. Planning on working through the red hat cert guide if I have any free time ;p

I'm planning on getting ahead on my assignments before mid term break

then I would be able to. One module is MOSTLY assignments so it will help ;p

WesleyDavid

@JourneymanGeek 16 hour days, eh?

MDMarra

@WesleyDavid oh

WesleyDavid

@MDMarra Something about... something.

Exchange maybe?

Argh.

MDMarra

Exchange hits the global catalog a lot

That's 100% of my Exchange knowledge

WesleyDavid

2:46 AM

@MDMarra Oh, what if a Server 2012 box running Hyper-V needs to have a VM ported over to a totally unrelated Server 2008 R2 box running Hyper-V?

MDMarra

Again, I am useless to you

WesleyDavid

Client has a VM at a host, and the host uses 2012 Hyper-V. I want to email them and have them just send me the VMDK / VMDX files etc.

MDMarra

I'm a VMWare guy :)

WesleyDavid

But the target server is a Server 2008 R2

@MDMarra You make kitty sad.

MDMarra

Sorry man

No live support...

WesleyDavid

2:47 AM

@MDMarra scuzzmonkey

@ChrisS is somewhat familiar with Hyper-V I hear.

MDMarra

:)

I think Pauska uses it too

WesleyDavid

@MDMarra Let me tell you about their license restrictions...

MDMarra

Yeah yeah yeah

Jacob

Hi all

WesleyDavid

So there's a copper mine that some mining company wants to put here in Arizona.

And I was just on their Facebook page

And saw this comment:
We do NOT need - nor can we "protect" the environment, but we can use conservational methods which most all businessmen, farmers, ranchers, and other resource companies want to do -- to "protect" their interests!!!! This should just not be this hard... It is pure political manuevering to control America.

lawlhuh?

"We do NOT need - nor can we "protect" the environment"

"We do NOT need - nor can we "protect" the environment"

ಠ_ಠ

MDMarra

2:51 AM

ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ

ಠ_ಠ_ಠ

^ siamese twins

WesleyDavid

If anyone is interested: facebook.com/RosemontCopperArizona

Squeeee!!! I just had some huge nostalgia. Got this book as a teen and forgot about it until like 2 minutes ago:

amazon.com/Tricks-Mac-Game-Programming-Gurus/dp/1568301839/…

Yes, that one.

Those were the days.

MDMarra

3:21 AM

0

A: How do I deal with the removal/eradication of an unknown worm on our network?

This is in reference to the answer I posted (below) on Jan 5 at 23:57 and the criticisms that follow it. I had expected this post to appear below that one, but it is above it instead. You may want to read that first... or not. With regard to my qualifications and "deep level of knowledge" s...

This....wow. I don't even know what to say. I've read this twice and all that it says is "take infected machines offline and scan the disks with a known good VM." Then it goes into a tirade about Linux vs Windows for home users, which is entirely irrelevant for this audience. — MDMarra 23 secs ago

Joel E Salas

3:42 AM

@MDMarra How do I configure Windows DNS to register the reverse PTR record for AD hosts

?

MDMarra

You have the reverse zone created already on the DCs?

Michael Hampton

@MDMarra Clearly we need to make his new post appear below his old one. It's what he would want.

Oh god, I read his profile. I know what his REAL problem is. He's a DEVELOPER pretending to be a sysadmin. He says he likes Ubuntu and VirtualBox, for fuck's sake!

MDMarra

He's also "killed" lots of viruses

Michael Hampton

And he's never heard of booting from a USB stick, or PXE booting...

MDMarra

Hi, I'm @JoelESalas and I ask a question and then disappear :)

@MichaelHampton Looks like Chris just killed both answers

Which is sad, because now he gets all that rep back

Joel E Salas

3:54 AM

@MDMarra Yes the zone exists, which I hoped would fix it. I also set the "AD integrated" setting. No dice

Michael Hampton

Hey, I was reading that! Oh wait, it's just got an ugly pink background now.

MDMarra

@JoelESalas how are your clients registering records?

The default self-register or dhcp dns proxy?

Joel E Salas

@MDMarra They're all static IP, so I assume the former?

MDMarra

They only register once a day

How long ago did you create the zone?

Joel E Salas

@MDMarra Couple days ago

MDMarra

3:56 AM

ipconfig /registerdns will force registration

Joel E Salas

@MDMarra Perfect. Thank you

MDMarra

I mean, you shouldn't have to do that

but it's a good step for troubleshooting

Joel E Salas

@MDMarra This is an all-new environment, so I'm sure I'm missing some crucial setting. I seem to recall that my hosts would register in (r)DNS after a reboot in the worst of cases

MDMarra

Make sure the setting in the DNS tab of the NIC settings has a check mark to also register reverse lookup records

I think it's default but worth looking at

Joel E Salas

4:17 AM

@MDMarra How do I configure an NTP time source for an AD controller without editing the registry?

ewwhite

4:37 AM

@JoelESalas hiss... you should know!

Joel E Salas

shame rays

WesleyDavid

@JoelESalas w32tim at le commande prompte.

/manualpeerlist or some such

Physical or virtual DC?

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc786897(v=ws.10).aspx

Joel E Salas

@WesleyDavid all virtual mufucka

because I hate myself

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas For extra bonus points, join the hypervisor to the domain.

Joel E Salas

4:51 AM

@MichaelHampton or use the VM as the time source for the hypervisor!

WesleyDavid

@JoelESalas I'm done with you.

symbolically washes hands

Joel E Salas

@WesleyDavid Don't have a lot of physical boxes

WesleyDavid

@JoelESalas Well heck, if you're in Phoenix sometime I might have some you could take off my hands.

...a bit long in the tooth, mind you.

Joel E Salas

@WesleyDavid A bit? I'm not looking to make a museum

WesleyDavid

@JoelESalas Dell 1850s/2850s?

Joel E Salas

5:03 AM

@WesleyDavid They're EOL :(

WesleyDavid

@JoelESalas Ghetto is as ghetto does.

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Do you have a minute to talk HP hardware? $$$$

ewwhite

sure

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Mind if I email or IM you?

ewwhite

k

or here is fine.

Joel E Salas

5:11 AM

@ewwhite I'm working with a company that's looking to spec out an all-new infrastructure. They have a particular need with the DB server, max IOPS/dollar

They have fairly typical requirements. 3-4 decent VM hosts, an Exchange server, and the aforementioned superbeefy DB server.

ewwhite

k

Joel E Salas

What should I be looking at to get them the most IOPS for just that DB server?

DAS shelf with SSDs in it?

ewwhite

I can do HP Pliant/Sandisk SAS SSD's...

Joel E Salas

and how is this expressed in HP vocabulary

ewwhite

or just Fusion IO

HP-branded Fusion IO

I'd need capacities.

Joel E Salas

5:13 AM

@ewwhite 3TB for DB server

ewwhite

3TB of fast storage?

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Yep.

At least 1TB of fast storage. the other 2TB can be on magneto-spins if absolutely necessary

ewwhite

Fusion IO or HP's enterprise SLC SSD's

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite SLC SSDs

ewwhite

Fusion Io will be cheaper

Look up HP #600282-B21

...

Joel E Salas

5:18 AM

@ewwhite Awesome. Can these be aggregated?

ewwhite

My price is $2k.

not $15k.

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite How many can be reasonably stuffed into a server

ewwhite

about four in a 2U DL380.

400GB Enterprise SSD's will be $3500 each

WesleyDavid

This neighborhood is either getting more ghetto or more redneck

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite I'd like to reach out to you very soon. How should I contact you?

WesleyDavid

5:20 AM

second time in about two weeks I've heard gunfire

Joel E Salas

@WesleyDavid They're probably just celebrating someone's birthday

ewwhite

@JoelESalas my profile

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Thanks a million.

ewwhite

line my pockets!

Joel E Salas

6:15 AM

@ewwhite Gladly. Do you bill when you're just talking to a client about implementation?

ewwhite

sometimes.

depends on how much the real project will be

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite How do you decide?

I see

ewwhite

if I know that any time can just be rolled into the real project.

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite So you don't bill for chitchat UNLESS it becomes a real project?

ewwhite

people don't like seeing, "Time for discussion project scope"

just take another 15-60 minutes on somewhere

Joel E Salas

6:17 AM

Excellent.

This last week has been most satisfying. I love building shit.

ewwhite

o rly?

Joel E Salas

Aaand deleted

Iain

7:18 AM

G'day

faker

8:58 AM

morning

Journeyman Geek

9:36 AM

lo

Lucas Kauffman

9:46 AM

mornin

Iain

10:22 AM

@LucasKauffman his system is hardened already but he still worries about brute force attacks on the mysql root account ;)

Lucas Kauffman

10:52 AM

@Iain ah

Dennis Kaarsemaker

11:30 AM

Hello good people

Lucas Kauffman

Hello random stranger!

Iain

G'day

Dennis Kaarsemaker

breakfast time :)

ewwhite

12:32 PM

@mdmarra HALP!!

MDMarra

12:59 PM

@ewwhite wat

Lucas Kauffman

1:09 PM

@ewwhite you stuck in the toilet again or are you doing a DR

2

Dennis Kaarsemaker

1:24 PM

@LucasKauffman could be both

ewwhite

@MDMarra I had to ZFS snapshot the old Valley file server volume, copy the VMDK to another location, attach the disk to another VM and then replace permissions in order to get access to all of the customer PST files.

pauska

1:39 PM

@mdmarra ever experienced troubles with keeping approvals in sync with replicas? For some reason every replica I have have thousands of unapproved updates

pauska

1:57 PM