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12:05 AM
kinda dead in here
 
 
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8:16 AM
Good Mooorning
 
8:40 AM
Quickly glanced at the front page and totally misread this one
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Q: Suck or blow? What's better for dust?

AmandaThe guy at the local PC hardware store told me it's better to use a small hand-held leaf blower to blow dust out of your PC case than a hand-held vacuum cleaner. Why is this? I understand that fans might be damaged if they "spin too fast", but surely this is a problem with both vacuuming and blow...

 
Surely its better to use Canned Air
 
I used to use a six-gallon compressor. Much stronger than canned air!
I guess it's still canned. Just a much larger can.
 
9:33 AM
There are certain commands I feel weird about looking up the man pages
man touch, for example
man unzip :(
 
10:32 AM
anybody know if is there a GPO setting in Server 2008 to set a default screen resolution? On either per-user or per-machine basis.
 
11:01 AM
Nice Pics
 
11:22 AM
Dell just replaced the guts of my laptop, and suddenly everything is responsive when I click
Think the heat damage I had was quite bad >.<
 
Or they screwed up and put the guts from a new model in yours.
 
Thta would be fine by me
 
Smells like a homework question lifted directly from the professor's blackboard.
 
@jscott Blackboard? All the cool kids use Moodle nowdays.
 
11:37 AM
@ScottPack Zing.....
 
The guys on SO even said that but sent it here to die anyway
 
@ScottPack I wish they would just choose one here. :)
 
@ScottPack Moodle? We got a VLE called Frog
 
Our VLE is called Book, it comes from Bookshop
 
@Iain Why not just kill it over there?
 
11:42 AM
Do you pack guns? Scott Pack.
durh
 
@tombull89 VLE=Virtual Learning Environment?
 
@ScottPack exactly
 
@coredump I know I'm an American and all, but sorry no. Never saw the point.
 
@ScottPack yes, sorry.
 
@ScottPack Well, to shoot things of course!
 
11:43 AM
@Iain Here we call them LMS=Learning Management System
 
I am American too...
 
@ScottPack Personally, I call them a PITA.
 
Yes
 
I suppose I should start making my way to the office
 
The teacher here that does "Web Programming" classes just asked us to "install" Wordpress on his notebook. He wanted to be able to share things with his class and he wanted to be able to take it home with him. O_o
 
11:46 AM
@jscott hah, oh dear.
 
@tombull89 These sorts of requests are not uncommon enough. It makes me facepalm a bit to think these are the people students learn from.
 
Somehow I manage to gain massive ADD whenever I need to do monitoring audits.
 
I did web design in college, we had two teacher the opposite ends of the scale. One was someone who did websites professionally, ran his own site, knew evrything inside and out, and the other had trouble "with the internets"
 
12:11 PM
Anybody know what genius designed the EMC racks?
 
Not a fan, I take it?
 
That's a word.
1) They use round holes, 2) The distance between the front and rear posts is too short.
 
12:27 PM
They are made for horizontally challenged servers.
 
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Q: Apache DDoS Protection in router (pFsense)

HultnerI'm soon going to change my infrastructure when I buy a new server. I'm going to replace my D-Link DIR-655 router with an pFsense router (and probably use the 655 as an AP) using my old server hardware (Intel Atom 330, 1GB ram, Intel Pro Server MT Dual Gigabit nic). My new server will be SandyBr...

 
I applaud their initiative
 
"My home connection is 5x1Gb fiber"
 
!!
 
@ScottPack The round holes used to be more common.... most rack gear can deal with it. How short is the distance? Less than 32"?
 
12:30 PM
Is it just me, or did Warner pretty much disappear after not becoming a mod?
 
@DanBig He's been aloof for a while now... I think he's more than slightly disenchanted with our propensity to attract "gives me teh codez" and "how to use mod_rewrite" questions too.
 
@DanBig he got a work promotion at much the same time
 
@ChrisS, just seeing the way he interacted in chat, i would usually leave, as he was prone to just disagree with everything, and it was annoying to watch
 
"Hey, is there a way I can give fully and complete access to people who don't know what they're doing and don't care about policies and still limit them?" serverfault.com/questions/259605/blocking-applications-on-macs
 
@DanBig Your "disagree[ment]" is my "perfectionism" which I rather like about Warner.... Can't like everyone's personalities. =]
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Our C-Levels don't have admin access to their machines (two do have access to an account that's admin level if they bothered to pull it out).
 
12:41 PM
At my previous job, all C-Levels had local admin access, and that was given whether IT liked it or not. It was frustrating to watch these people make a mess of their systems, demand it to be fixed, only to do it again. When they would get a new machine, we would, by default, make them only a user, they would complain by CoB that day that they couldn't install something on their own.
 
My predecessor used to put Everyone in the Local Admins group on computers... Can't imagine why they were paranoid about security... litterally anyone could get on the network and remote admin the computers, login, browse the file system... It was an impressive Charlie Foxtrot.
 
I don't even have admim access with my user account. I encourage the techs here to do the same.
 
I only use an admin account when I need the privs
 
Random pic of the day
 
12:45 PM
@ChrisS Chopper's hobbnobbing the EU at this moment. Supposed to be back this weekend.
 
@ChrisS I think @Chopper3 is on a European junket this week
 
Well I don't fell like looking up the specs on those switches.... dude can Google for himself.
 
WTH is a smaller DDOS attack?
 
@Iain What's a "junket"?
 
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A: Apache DDoS Protection in router (pFsense)

coredumpYou don't really protect yourself from DDOS from your end. You identify traffic and coordinate with your ISP to block it before it gets in your link. If you have to block it in your side, you already lost the battle because your tubes are already clogged (the packets must reach your FW before bei...

 
12:48 PM
@ChrisS hobbnobbing
 
Doesn't @Chopper3 have like a psychic connection to serverfault so he knows when he's @'ed, like He-Man had with the Sorceress in Castle Grayskull?
@Chopper3! We're under attack! We need you back at the castle!
 
@BartSilverstrim The Sorceress was hot
I actually have all the He-Man episodes at home
 
And Chopper held aloft his magic server and said..."By the power of Grayskull!" Then he transforms into He-Admin, the most powerful BOFH in the Universe...
 
My only question was how She-ra could ride a horse using a mini-skirt
 
@Coredump: I know...man, I know...
I just learned today that Teela was 16.
 
12:52 PM
so... Was it CP?
no, I was younger than her.
 
I doubt it would be. She was just living in a warm climate. Or else anything set in brazil would probably classify as that.
 
Holy crap, I just found out they rebooted He-Man! Must acquire!
 
I downloaded season one of the reboot on iTunes for my son to watch.
He's starting to watch that now.
He's five so he doesn't understand why it's important to punish Evil-Lyn. Bad Evil-Lyn. For being evil.
And Skeletor had a face at one point. And a name.
 
our child program presenters sure had some strange clothing
 
user image
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Does that satisfy today's boob content?
 
1:07 PM
@DanBig It's a start
 
@ChrisS I would have to measure it to be sure, but probably, and since it's in a different building I can't run up and verify. I've noticed problems with rails not compressing down enough.
 
1:20 PM
@ScottPack Well that certainly is annoying. One of our racks here was setup at 29" originally... That was a PITA to change with it half full of servers. They had a tape backup unit with perfectly good rails too, but the rails weren't mounted because they required the ~32" spacing... I can't tell you how annoyed I get with people take halfassed shortcuts; then I get to cleanup the mess years later.
 
@ChrisS In their defense, this was largely designed as a forklift with a Cellera in the bottom and 3 RSA rebranded Dell 2950s. The Dell rails have two rear mounting points so it will fit in either a standard rack or one of these. It just happened that with 20-odd U left empty it became the rack for my dept.
 
Anyone know if all settings are lost on a reboot when vSphere ESXi is in evaluation mode?
 
Most of the time it's fine, but sometimes the roundhold+short posts gets frustrating.
 
As in the password, network configuration, inventory, etc
 
@KyleBrandt I wouldn't have thought so, that seems rather....suboptimal.
 
1:25 PM
Ya, that never happened to me before
 
@KyleBrandt Have you tried turning it off and..... oh, wait.
 
Okay, they are there on this reboot
Last time I did it by just sending a reset via a drac. Maybe that did it ... seem strange that settings are only saved on a reboot though?
 
[wtf-am-i-reading]
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A: Why do we ping the IP 4.2.2.2 to test connectivity?

user78403Hey everybody... it's me, Dan. I'm the guy who made this claim, and I'm here to talk more about it. Here's the long, drawn-out version of what happened. I was managing a NOC for a fixed-data wireless company in Florida at the time- fuzion (gofuzion.com - I could write a book about that place). I...

I felt like they wanted to be drinking buddies after that.
 
@jscott TLDR
 
1:41 PM
@Iszi Awww, give it a shot. It's quite a ripping yarn they've spun.
 
I kinda want to say, "Proof of your identity, please!"
 
haha, nice post anyways
 
Come on! 35 paragraphs to describe the fact that you ping a level 3 address?
I'm not even sure I would read that if Evan wrote it.
 
I would read anything @ScottPack write just because its him
 
And yet...I did.
 
1:46 PM
@ScottPack But it's Internet history they've just posted! pinging 4.2.2.2 was their idea!
 
@coredump I actually don't read most of his stuff. It usually doesn't apply enough to me.
 
Bet your users say that about your messages to them.
 
pffft
who the hell pings 4.2.2.2
 
@BartSilverstrim To be fair...no. When someone becomes one of my "users" they're usually told to pay attention. Now, they may ignore it, but I at least know they're rather required to read/listened/whatever.
 
Ignore, say it doesn't apply to themselves...same thing. They just resent you more for making them sit through it. :-p
 
1:51 PM
I think that this question is a bit off topic serverfault.com/questions/177636/…
 
I'm not sure it's off topic, but I don't see why it was not useful or how it was rude.
 
Anyone here a Type O Negative fan?
 
I am A+
 
@DanBig I'm more of an O+ type of person myself
Have my own personal supply, even
 
@coredump and @Holocryptic, har har. It just sucks that the lead singer died a year ago today, such a good band
 
1:57 PM
@DanBig Oh, for a second I thought you were going to wax philosophical about Twilight or something
 
@BartSilverstrim Q is OT or Too Local; A isn't rude, though I certainly think that comment is; A seems to be exactly what the OP is looking for.
 
How can it be too local when it's asking for proxies around the continent? :-)
 
@DanBig I'm O-, blood banks want me, but I hate needles. ;)
 
I'm FU - you can pry my blood out of my cold dead .. err veins?
 
@ChrisS, as am i, but they dont usually want me to donate because i get tattooed too much
 
2:08 PM
@BartSilverstrim Too localized to his situation... I don't know anyone who really needs to know what their ads look like from different countries, but don't have the technical know-how to do it themselves.
 
This one I never understood why it didn't get closed serverfault.com/questions/257189/gnome-3-packages
 
@ChrisS O+, and they used to call me all the time. But because I lived in Europe they won't take my blood
 
Web Designers should be shot Perform a miracle and get told 'The favorite icon is wrong, lets pull the project' $-)
 
err, huh?
 
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Q: What's a subnet mask?

boboboboSubnet mask is usually something like 255.255.255.0. And until now, its the field I usually ignore. I am trying to read the wikipedia entry, but its pretty loaded with jargon. Can anyone explain in simple terms what a subnet mask is for and how it works?

What is going on today?
 
2:10 PM
LOL
 
@DanBig Love "but its pretty loaded with jargon"...
 
heh, oops. That went in the wrong window
 
THATS NOT HOW WINDMILL'S WORK
 
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Q: Why are SAS disks so expensive?

Greg BWhy are SAS disks so expensive?

 
A: Because.
 
2:19 PM
A: They're not compared to space shuttles
 
A: Expensive is in the eye of the beholder
 
4/14/2011 - The day of shit questions.
 
Next year I'm taking that day off
My google-fu just went and kicked me in the nuts today. Not a great feeling.
 
Or you could have responded with "because they have dual ports, combining 6gbit/s bandwith"
:)
 
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Q: WIndows Server 2003 R2 can't communicate with a certain MAC Address

IshmaelI have a print server that seems to be unable to communicate to a specific MAC address and every other devices (Windows XP machines on the same local network) can. Has anyone seen an issue like this before? I'm going to try updating network drivers first yet feel free to provide some insight.

Soooo, you're saying your server can't communicate?
 
2:55 PM
just got a quote on a new EMC san
hardware/software supports costs nearly the same as the hardware itself
 
After a brief absence caused by a concussion suffered from headbutting SharePoint in the face, I HAVE RETURNED!
Just to make sure that I didn't miss anything important, boobs are still cool, right?
 
@MarkM Of course. Have you not looked at the starred wall?
Boobs are always cool
 
Have they ever not been cool?
 
@Holocryptic Only one boob reference
I was afraid you guys went soft on me
um, horrible choice of words. ignore that
 
hrm, I'm showing 3
hahaha
 
2:59 PM
You might be seeing more than me, I don't fullscreen my browser
 
All you need is two.
 
^
Total Recall was a great movie, for 3 reasons. Boobs.
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@pauska That always irks me a bit... I understand support/warranties have high profit margins, but some companies take it to ridiculous levels.
 
3:43 PM
http://serverfault.com/questions/259705/block-facebook-for-selected-users
Management and users will ignore AUP, but mgmt wants me to fix the problem. I want to tell him, "Sucks to be you"
 
Hire people you trust. If you don't trust them, don't hire them. If you hire them, and they break your trust. Show them the door.
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Q: What's the point of Software Assurance on a MS Volume License?

Tom O'ConnorI'm currently trying to buy a whole bunch of Windows 7 licenses to upgrade XP and Vista Home Premium to Windows 7 Professional. It seems like a good time to start on an Open License agreement. Every time I talk to a vendor, or go through Microsoft's Licensing website, I see references to Softwa...

any of you smartie pants know about this type of paperwork?
 
@TomOConnor Possible Duplicate of the Licensing Question......
 
It isn't.
 
SA is boils down to a subscription service, you pay $X/yr and you're licensed for the latests version of whatever you're looking for. For instance, if you got SA for Vista Enterprise 10-licenses, and keep it up, you got Win7 Ent licenses when it became available.
 
the valid question "is it worth it" remains..
 
3:57 PM
@TomOConnor It's basically a lease vs. buy decision. Do you want to pay an even amount every year, knowing it'll probably add up to slightly more than one off purchases every 3 to 5 years.
 
Ah. Sounds like I can ignore that for the time being then.
I think leasing anything is an epic ripoff.
except, perhaps for EC2 nodes
 
@TomOConnor Must not have taken any accounting classes then.
 
@ChrisS Uh what?
I rent a flat in central london. I pay 1200 a month, between me and my partner, and at the end of the lease will have feck all to show for it
Alternatively
 
Say you have $5000, and need a new server (server happens to cost $5000). You can buy it now and have $0 leftover; OR lease it for $2,000/yr for 3 years.
 
If i bought a flat somewhere, I'd still have the residual value.
@ChrisS Right.. So That assumes that my new server won't last more than 3 years.
 
4:00 PM
If you do the lease you'll have $3000 for the first year; you might be able to invest that in the business/bank/stock market/etc, and make additional money.
 
@ChrisS That's a slightly silly reasoning.
 
Lets say you can invest it in your business and make $1,000/yr. Over the 3 years, you'll make $3,000; the least cost you an extra $1000, but you're still ahead $2,000 in the end.
 
If you rent anything, you have no residual value at the end of the contract.
It's dead money.
 
Let's say the terms of the lease allow you to buy the equipment after 3 years for $1, not an uncommon deal (except in auto leases, which is what everyone is most familiar with).
 
that's a slightly different deal though.
 
4:03 PM
@TomOConnor This scenario happen much more often than you'd think.
 
@ChrisS I wish it'd happen with my flat.
 
My number were obviously picked for convenience, and I really doubt the 33% return is realistic; but the general idea holds and works out quite often in larger businesses, or especially in rapidly growing businesses.
@TomOConnor Yeah, auto and real estate leases almost never allow you to buy the goods at a discount after the lease; they're usually money pits, as you suggest. Most business equipment tends to be a different story, with $1 buyout options being quite frequent (I know HP offers this as an option to all their leases [does cost extra for the option....] and I had a buddy who was a lease officer for a firm that did this stuff all the time).
 
4:25 PM
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Q: How to explain to a client that he must generate his SSL certificate using CSR generated on hosting IIS server?

GrZeChHello, I have probably quite easy question: How to explain to a client that he must generate his SSL certificate using CSR generated on hosting IIS server? Thank you

SPEAK TO HIM
 
I like TomTom's answer
Exchange users in the room?
 
4:43 PM
@coredump He doesn't... You can generate your own CSR, get it signed, then upload both keys to the server......
Jeebus! Another:
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Q: subnetting question

jimi newmanwhat is the last valid host on the subnetwork 192.168.176.200/30 and how did u get ur answer

 
Eye us'd deh Googles ta get mah anser
 
5:19 PM
Since my nautilus died my life has been... weird, on Gnome
 
Nautilus is responsible for the "desktop" view and file navigation
folders, etc
 
ah
I was wondering why not being able to work out on the elliptical was adversely affecting your *nix skills
 
after I tried to install the experimental Gnome 3 I ended with a GTK conflict and Nautilus refuses to work, so every time I need to open a file I have first to open the app and then use the open dialog on it to search the file :P
 
that's kind of kluged
 
5:27 PM
yep
but its fun
most of the time I work on SSH, terminals or browsers so not much being lost there. Only the occasional pdf or image file.
 
Good afternoon all.
 
hey
 
Just got my new shiny shelf of 15k SAS drives mounted. :) Not connected to the SAN yet, that will probably be tomorrow evening, as I'll need to do a controller failover for the install.
 
congrats on your new shinys
 
WTF with the "Do you have no Google-Fu whatsoever" questions?!
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Q: How do you redirect requests to a different host?

codeninjaBasically I want to create a situation where files served from my /cdn directory to use my cdn host rather than the local host. How can I do this with apache rewrite?

 
5:41 PM
smugmug.com/gallery/2706124_vuz4Q#1251977263_ZYCX8-A-LB <--- the SAS shelf is on the bottom. (gotta show off my little SAN) ;)
 
@ErikA Ohhhh, pretty. =]
 
@ChrisS Awww shucks.
 
But no BlinkenLightsâ„¢?
 
On the new shelf? It's not connected yet.
 
That gapping is fairly unattractive.
 
5:44 PM
@ScottPack I know. Ticked me off. The rails of the SATA shelf (which is in the middle currently) descends down about .25" into the U below where it's supposed to be.
 
@ScottPack Solution: google.com/products/…
 
Square holes! Damn you all!
 
If there's one thing I really dislike about Compellent, it's that they use really cheap rails.
 
hahaha
why that topmounting? Disk Arrays tend to be on the heavier side
 
@Zypher Agreed. Wasn't my decision.
 
5:47 PM
Our SAN gear is all near the top... cold air comes from the top and my opinion is that disks are more temperature sensitive (failure rate) than CPUs.
 
@ChrisS No underfloor cooling?
 
@ErikA ahh that sucks
 
@ScottPack No, our "Data Center" is small and in a re-purposed corner of a file room.
 
@Zypher that rack is bolted to the floor, so I'm not too worried about it.
 
@ChrisS Yeah, I know how that goes. We have a lot of equipment rooms like that.
 
6:21 PM
So... I have two rows of racks that will need to have a couple 1 foot spaces in between the racks due to structural engineering issues. Any good tips on what to fill that space in with to maintain airflow containment?
 
Talk to your local vending company. I've seen lots of vending machines that have several inch wide bumpers, for lack of a better term, that separate the machines. As near as I can tell they're effectively just foam wrapped in some kind of leatherette like material.
 
Good call, will do
 
If you can get it that wide, it's probably way cheaper than what Dell or APC will sell you.
 
is this appropos for SF?
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Q: How to enable jumbo frame and large TCP on Windows 2008

KavinFirst I need to enable the jumbo frame 9000 in network setting. I have done that. But I still need to enable large TCP on Windows. How to do that?

 
6:36 PM
Hey
@studiohack yes
 
poorly worded, but yes
 
@Holocryptic I'll fix it on migration
 
@Jacob thanks!
@Holocryptic I'll work on it
 
Ew, yeah. I'm, unfortunately, with those guys. On topic, but icky looking.
 
I improved it based on what I know...you guys can improve it...migrated
thanks again, this helps me to make fewer migration mistakes
 
6:39 PM
I cleaned it up
 
@studiohack you should see the crap we get from SO
 
@studiohack np, thanks for checking!
 
@studiohack NP, I think we all prefer you ask if you think you need to, vs blindly migrating
 
yeah, I'm doing that a lot more on questions that I'm unsure of... laters SF! :)
 
@studiohack ta
 
6:44 PM
Hmm 1.50Mbit from HE or 1.00 from netriplex
 
I'll take 3.0Mbit for $200, Alex
 
huh, did not realize I could edit question bodies now. Cool
 
7:09 PM
@Holocryptic Yep, anyone can, if you don't have high enough rep though, it has to be approved by someone like me.
 
@ChrisS How much rep do you need to approve edits?
 
@ChrisS Whaaat? But the cool privileges synopsis page says I can edit anything! Not that it needs approval!
 
@Holocryptic you have 2K you can edit Q's and A's ...
 
@ChrisS And you're all dour and dark and brooding. Just look at your picture! You'd squash me just for the fun of it!
 
@Jacob Either 5k or 10k, I'm not sure.
 
7:21 PM
 
@Holocryptic Nah, it records who approved/disapproved the edit; wouldn't want them revoking my privileges and all..
 
@Zoredache not in there
 
@Jacob, your right... Someone might want to add a feature request on meta.so to have that listed.
 
@Zoredache I was thinking about it...
 
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Q: Why set the bar so high to approve low-rep edits?

TshepangI heard that only 10k users are allowed to review (and approve) edits done by the little people. Why set it so high, especially if you allow a 2k uses to edit without apporval?

IIRC the request exists already ... looking for it
 
7:26 PM
@Zypher hmm Well I have 2K, how does approving edits work then?
 
@Jacob you have to run into a question with pending edits I think you can click on the edit(x) link and it'll show you
you can't see the list of pending edits till 10k
 
@Zypher hmm, thats not very well planned
 
yea .. shrug
 
@Zypher Someone should post about that.... also, I'm not sure if I'll get to see the presentation at PICC,
:(
 
oh why not?
 
7:30 PM
@Zypher Being 15 I can't quite travel alone(My dad doesn't like NJ anyway...) and he's not sure if he can go.
 
ahhh that sucks
 
I'm trying to get him to go
Gosh, I wonder if any rooms are still open...
 
and nobody LIKES nj
we just put up with it
 
@Zypher Well he uses another word, but it's not suitable for chat
 
@Zypher Because we don't need a zillion people who can approve edits.. They're handled quickly and efficiently as-is; if it ain't broke don't fix it.
 
7:33 PM
@ChrisS I disagree, if I can edit I should be able to approve
 
@Jacob Why? What's your reasoning?
 
@ChrisS Well, It sorta just makes sense, if I can edit without approval myself, I think its also true that I should be able to tell if a lower rep users edit is good.
 
@ChrisS read the top answer, you can approve at 2k but only see the list at 10k
 
@Zypher Well thats like red tape, you can approve BUT only if you find it first?
 
yea
i dunno didn't design it
 
7:37 PM
@Zypher I know, you only make sure the servers work.
and make presentations at PICC :)
 
Hrm, interesting... Well I guess it figures high rep users should be bugged it dis/approve edits and lower rep users shouldn't be. =]
@Jacob you can't see this page? serverfault.com/review
 
Thats new
 
I can see it
 
Theres no link to that anywhere
though theres no edit only tab
 
No, there's no link anywhere... They were supposed to be adding a link, but that was around the beginning of the year... hasn't happened yet.
 
7:48 PM
mumbles something about lazy developers who can't add a button to a web form
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isn't lazy developer a redundancy
?
 
@coredump no, there are good devs out there (we employ a few actually)
 
I have to be honest, I consider a good lump of the work I do is because I am lazy.
 
I know we've had this discussion before... I guess it's semantics, but I think you're probably more "efficient" than "lazy". I think of lazy as doing less than what's required and hoping to get away with it. Efficient is putting in minimal effort while accomplishing the goals.
 
@Zypher I know of the existence of the store through channels... If I were to order a SF tee, could I get it before PICC do you think, or have you not have them made?
 
8:04 PM
@Jacob uhh maybe basically nothing is garunteed until the officiall announcement
that said, there are a bunch of SF t's in the closet sooo ...
 
@Zypher BUT...BUT I have to ware a SF Tee to PICC(if I can go)
 
lol
i know ...
 
hrm, where do you order the shirts from?
 
@Holocryptic no where....
 
Jesus
a SF store would be... great
terrific
I would spend like a hundred trillion dollars on it
 
8:16 PM
@coredump Brazil or American Dollars :P
 
Zimbabwan!
There are no dollars here btw
 
HAHAHA!
 
8:33 PM
The gave away some shirts a while back, but they were pretty more quality. It sure would be nice to buy good quality shirt with the SF logo.
 
I have a TS with a SF logo :)
 
@Zoredache I initially thought my shirt would never come. In fact, when I received it, so much time had elapsed that I had completely forgotten I even gave them my info for one.
 
@pauska, this is for you.
http://i.imgur.com/dIrdl.jpg
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9:15 PM
Oy.. an entire day of meetings :'(
 
boooooo
 
Thank the FDA, dear.
(*Thanks **ASSHOLES***)
aw, it ate my markdown ::pout::
NSFW
but it makes me feel better!
 
FDA is just one of many federal administrations that needs a good boot to the throat.
 
Hey guys, I'm doing a switch from Exchange 2010 to Google Apps, and I wanted to know if there is a rule of thumb for bandwidth requirements. This is with 100-200 users.
 
/end libertarian-ish rant
 
9:22 PM
My organization has a 10MB down line right now
 
The rule of thumb is to sever your users' thumbs
 
considering upgrading to 55
@voretaq7 So should I buy a lot of thumb-guillotines or one big one?
 
if you want a serious assessment, email is probably the least of your bandwidth utilization -- look at web traffic, streaming, etc. and see how that's doing first. If you're using >80% of your bandwidth an upgrade is probably a good idea. If you're north of 90% it's mandatory (unless you want to start aggressive traffic shaping).
@user65712 Well, that's a tough call: I used to suggest biting them off as a warning to users, but with the prevalence of STDs now (and the chance for contracting terminal stupidity from contact with user-blood) I suggest using cigar cutters and observing barrier precautions...
 
my boss is worried about everyone hitting the network with docs/gmail all at once, but I was pretty sure that was easily handled
 
9:27 PM
@user65712 It depends on how close you are to your margins, how big the docs/email are, etc.
 
we do max out bandwith at times tho and we need better video steaming capabilities
@voretaq7 thanks
 
if you're already hitting the ceiling occasionally you definitely want to upgrade first. You may also want to consider reserving bandwidth but that's not really easy with Google services because they're coming from/going to all sorts of networks....
 
prioritize google packets or something
 
@user65712 you'd need to do it by end-destination AS number or similar though (or list a shit-ton of networks)
 
10:30 PM
@DanBig ?!
I dont get it :(
btw, funnies read in a while: webaim.org/blog/user-agent-string-history
 
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