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A: Submitting logo to Github project

HostileForkGitHub Perhaps obviously (although perhaps not so obviously in the era of Wikipedia and having one's StackExchange Q&A edited by others without asking)...someone's GitHub repository on the web is not something you modify directly. Instead you "fork" it to create your own clone, that only you (a...

 
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(do you think the question needs editing?)
 
Looks okay to me
 
yes, you covered the etiquette part as well
excellent answer
 
There are those who religiously edit out "Thanks." and other micro-things, I usually don't bother myself to edit just that.
Tx
 
12:36 AM
Might retouch the title, but now it's time for lunch :D
 
 
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3:57 AM
If any Trello fans want to back me up on this or suggest another visual concept:
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Q: Onebox for Trello Boards

HostileForkThere is currently a onebox for Trello Cards. Cards look kind of like this: It would be nice if links to Trello Boards were oneboxed also, to tell you the board's name, show its icon, and what organization it belonged to. Maybe something along what's in the Trello header when you're looking ...

 
 
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6:56 AM
@HostileFork Yes, nice idea
we have a trello board for GD, but it's been idle for quite some time
 
Trello is like a lot of task management things where people will say "yeah, I should probably be more organized" but then don't actually do it.
And it's a case where they've basically removed all the barriers to being organized and made it fun
Yet still, people don't use it
 
haha
 
Thus, I think every little nudge one can get in to integrate it is a good thing... a onebox here, an API there, eventually people might actually pay attention to process.
 
I just created a card in our board, now I feel better
it actually really worked for us for a long time
when we had "a plan", and we had tasks, it was really useful
yeah
 
Well, things look to be shaping up a bit on the graphicdesign SE... a little slowish, but, it takes time.
I know a lot about waiting a long time for things to happen.
And then it happens and then by then you've lost interest, but you can at least sort of go "hey, it happened finally"
 
7:12 AM
well, I still can't believe we graduated
 
"and I may have possibly had something to do with it"
It's moments like those that really make it all, uh, worthwhile.
 
yes
 
not available in my country -.-
 
@Yisela same
 
7:15 AM
OH MY GOD
perfect
nice answer on the copyright question
 
Thanks. Odd though, I can see, how people would build reasoning systems that are somewhat convoluted based on the convoluted set of laws and rights they have to work within.
 
haha
yep.
 
Feeling put upon by that, one might gravitate more naturally to the "well if my life is burdened by a bunch of nonsense, that benefits others at a cost to me, why shouldn't I cost others with nonsense at a benefit to me to keep things even?"
 
'because it's wrong' might not be enough for some
 
So you wind up deriving your own personal worldview from something like Adobe's Font Embedding and Licensing policy...instead of seeing that as potentially a wildly mad constructed concept...and tackling how you think from first principles.
There was this thing, maybe not in New Zealand but here, where they started putting a pre-movie clip in the theaters which would show all these various crimes taking place
It was overlaid with text after you watched the bad crime and would say "YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A PURSE..."
 
7:24 AM
ah, the piracy video, yes
 
Or "YOU WOULDN'T ROB A BANK..."
So don't "COPY A MOVIE" because "IT'S THE SAME THING"
And I say, um, no you just pretty much laid out the case.
 
That would be the one.
Anyway, you just disproved your point. You listed things I would not do. Then you listed something I would. Clearly they must not be the same thing.
 
haha
 
One of my earliest fascinations with computers was, in fact, this idea of unlocking resources. Things that were formerly scarce, becoming unlimited. I thought the whole point was that using technology, we were going to wipe out scarcity once and for all.
 
7:27 AM
nice thought
I still think it's possible
well, not sure if possible is the word. Technology, internet in particular, has been a radical change
we still need to figure out how to use it right, but at least it's something people is talking about
 
I think one can conclude it's not only possible, but accomplished, if one compares the spiralling depth and detail of even the small part of the omniverse we are exposed to vs. the idea of "nothin'"
 
a huge amount of data does not mean meaningful information
 
Tufte quoting I see
 
over 98% of our DNA does nothing
(not consciously, but Tufte must have undoubtedly been the origin!)
 
But it's all in the presentation
 
7:31 AM
indeed
 
Many things have been thought to do nothing when they do.
 
we need to make things not only transparent but also clear, accessible
 
And at the very least, any measurable thing can become important or significant if one chooses to.
 
exactly, how much are we missing in the noise
I can get carried away very easily with metaphors, already thinking of all sorts of comparisons
 
I once had a cable bill, and I opened it, and somehow the envelope got recycled
But the envelope was the same size as the phone bill
And the window in the same location, and I just used that envelope. You had to put a stamp on it, the address showed through the window
Was in Washington State at the time. A few weeks later I got a phone call from Hawaii
It was a confused guy who had received my check in the mail with his phone bill.
I now know there are some small coding marks on envelopes, little black marks on the edges, that override the address.
That answers one piece of the puzzle as to why the envelope didn't go to the cable company
What it does not answer... is how my check from my phone bill ended up in someone else's bill in Hawaii.
 
7:36 AM
(looking at a windowed envelope now)
recycled code?
non-unique?
 
Well, he had the check for my cable bill
Not my phone bill
So the phone bill system couldn't cash it, but what is "the phone bill system"?
And what happens in an exception, when the contents are shaped like a phone bill but contain no information they recognize... and the check isn't usable
I sort of imagine a bunch of bill processing robots not knowing what to do with something, and lacking anywhere to put something... just stick it in an outgoing bill to someone else
 
nice image
 
For fear of getting caught with a mystery object they didn't know what to do with, and just wanting to make it someone else's problem.
 
you make the world sound like a scary place
 
True to form, the guy in Hawaii called me and was like "I uh... stuck it in an envelope and sent it to the cable company for you."
 
7:41 AM
haha
 
I've been pretty lucky in terms of good people doing things like tracking me down to return my wallet, etc. Coming to my place and leaving a note on the door "I found your wallet, come see me..." I like those reactions. Nice people out there. It's not all scary.
But back to the design issue, I think small stray marks overriding intuition about where an envelope is to be sent based on the address window are an example of a "problem"
So the question of what is hidden in the noise can only be assisted by being very careful and vigilant about what kind of noise is allowed
 
somehow it reminded me of those trials where common sense can easily explain the truth, yet evidence for some reason is invalid (sort of like having someone saying something in camera but being disregarded as evidence because the person didn't sign a paper)
 
"Didn't say simon says..."
That may be cultural/idiomatic. Simon Says
 
was googling it
what a weird little song :)
I don't know it
interesting
 
Anyway... I'm always careful before saying something means nothing. I see there was an apophenia reference, but there is another extreme--to not be able to see or acknowledge pattern
 
7:50 AM
or create pattern
"the winner of the game is usually the last player who has successfully followed all of the given commands", how terrible does that sound
 
IQ focuses largely on pattern recognition, I wonder if there are pattern creation tests as a separate skill measure.
 
Simon Says originated from Latin, the Latin version was "Cicero dicit fac hoc", meaning "Cicero says do this"
@HostileFork there's the experiment where people were told random numbers and they ALWAYS found a pattern to link them
I'd say it's quite a skill we humans have
 
What do you mean "we", human? :-)
 
haha
 
You laugh! They laughed at Einstein! (Or wait...did they? I...don't know.)
 
7:53 AM
probably, at some point, someone
I have a comic to recommend to you
wait
The Swamp Thing as an entity floating in space, bonding with a lonely bio-mechanical space station and a sentient plant civilization, among others
 
Some of my friends religiously attend ComicCon etc. I myself have a very short attention span and own almost no physical objects. Zero books, dvds, etc.
 
you can read it online
 
Speaking of which, I signed up for Amazon prime to get 2-day shipping on something and then forgot to cancel it. So I have Amazon prime I guess. Their trick works.
I'm all-virtu-al
 
"speaking of which"
holy shit nice!
 
Relocated since that picture, but same stuff.
 
8:03 AM
such clean lines and uniform colors
do you think your brain looks similar? :)
 
I did a very interesting math thing with the paint, and using two gloss levels of the same color
 
are those sockets unaligned?
I have the same stools
 
@Yisela Yes, but not by any of my doing. An apartment.
 
who puts sockets like that :0
 
There is a game at work with the lines... rather interesting, I have some footage I took before moving explaining it, not edited together.
"Them"
 
8:06 AM
this is mine:
well, was, some days ago
@HostileFork edit it!
 
Similar, but different.. . :-) You've got the basics there.
 
got progressively messier
haha @ video
omg so good
explain the lines
 
Blah, I spent stupid time and money on that place
 
if possible in less than 10 because I have to go for dinner
 
I wanted to do grays and gray metals; no blacks, I was basically trying to make it notably different from previous places
So no black or white
And richer woods
But I made a mistake, when I went to try and make the accent wall, I got a semigloss paint
It came out looking too wet, I didn't care for it. So I had this whole wall painted in this wet looking reflective gray. It displeased me
But I'm one of those "play the ball where it lands" kinds of people
 
8:11 AM
'so I burnt the place down'
 
Well, I might do that someday
For other reasons about disagreements with the management company
But no, at the time, I was happy
 
don't do it! now it's in the chat transcripts!
 
So I went back and got flat paint and thought, well... okay, what if I didn't paint over all of it, but left some gloss behind
 
nice painting + room colors
 
And I spent a couple of weeks thinking about it and invented a sort of game involving the outlets, about waves propagating from each outlet
 
8:12 AM
ahhh I see
 
And the wave number; how many "wave propagation" steps it was out from the outlet, determined which wave won
A lower wave number won over a higher one.
 
cool!
 
Then I snapped alignments to the furniture features in the room, so it was like the wall was reflecting the furniture.
Interestingly, this exposed some architectural properties that had also been done in the construction. Stuff like wall outlets being right in the middle of the door height, that sort of thing.
 
at first I thought it was symbolism for fireplace, bookshelf, etc
 
Reflects the couch size and proportion.
Did lots of details too, like the screws...
My arguments with the complex predate the arguments about stuff like just painting over it all and destroying the value.
And putting the original screws back etc.
I guess that's the way of things, but no, I'm mad for the other reasons of why I moved in the first place.
 
8:19 AM
unfortunately, those reasons will have to wait until I come back from "latinamerican-yupi-fusion"
nice pics, thanks for sharing
 
Well as I said, I kind of want to get it documented as a little interior design project
So thanks for motivating me to, perhaps go through with that documentation
 
yes! do it!
i didn't know I was, but glad to have helped
see you later perhaps!
 
 
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4:21 PM
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Q: Should the "close" link be changed?

ScottNothing is closed any longer. Things are put on hold. Shouldn't the "close" link be changed to "hold"? Is this even important? I know if I were a new user and saw votes to hold rather than votes to close, I'd feel a bit better.

 

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