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SentryRaven
SentryRaven
8:22 AM
Moooooorning
 
Dan Hulme
Dan Hulme
good morning
 
falstro
falstro
8:39 AM
morning
looks like exploding kittens manged beat ouya in the end, just short of 8.8 mil
 
SentryRaven
SentryRaven
This exploding kittens thing really is amazing. Do they really get the full 8.8M or how does that kickstarter thing work?
 
DeltaLima
DeltaLima
Morning
 
falstro
falstro
8:53 AM
@SentryRaven kickstarter takes a percentage, can't remember how much
then of course there's the production/s&h costs
paypal is known for having frozen assets for larger stuff like this too (for being "suspicious"), so they might have that issue as well
 
 
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Federico
Federico
10:14 AM
yep https://www.kickstarter.com/discover/most-funded
what looks astonishing is that "87825% funded"
 
falstro
falstro
10:34 AM
yeah, asking for 10k and getting almost 9M is wicked for sure
Superfish is growing, and recruiting now! [Senior IOS Developer] https://my.tomigo.com/p/UvjYy
Tweeted by SuperfishTeam on February 13, 2015 at 11:22 PM
Uh oh, maybe you should check your iOS devices too :D
 
 
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Farhan
Farhan
2:42 PM
@falstro So when is your game getting listed on KickStarter?
 
falstro
falstro
2:53 PM
probably never.
it feels stupid to ask for funding for something which may very well fail completely until you have at least something that pretty much looks like a game already and a release is more or less assured; otoh, at that point you probably don't really need funding anymore. :)
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@falstro you should at least have a good basis ready before tossing up on KS
 
casey
casey
3:29 PM
@falstro you aren't in the KS mindset yet then
KS: produce a tech demo, or just a flashy pre-rendered scene. ???. profit!
for example
took all their money, blew it on bad decisions, produced absolutely terrible gameplay videos after months and months of work, ran out of money, scaled down to 2 employees and will probably never release a game
and showing the true power of a flashy tech demo and a "famous" name behind it:
and brilliant marketting
only $2M on KS, but current funding totals are a lofty 72M
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
3:50 PM
also be wary when doing early access
people tend to forget that you said "this is unfinished"
 
Farhan
Farhan
This is a neat concept: Lightors
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
what overprices batteries?
 
casey
casey
@ratchetfreak rechargables
via USB rather than a $30 recharging unit
Im thinking of getting the 2xAAA pack for $8. I go through an AAA regularly on my headphones so it would pay for itself over time
I could get about 20 regular AAA for the same price, so 10x as expensive but can be reused more than 10 times.
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
so they reduced the size of the battery and added a 5 to 1.5 voltage regulator built in to charge?
why not just buy a recharger and some rechargables
 
fooot
fooot
@ratchetfreak Yeah, I'll keep my regular ones that I can recharge 4 at a time with the charger that came with a pack of batteries.
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
4:04 PM
pretty sure usb battery chargers exist
 
fooot
fooot
Needing 2 micro USB chargers just to charge the batteries for most devices seems like a big downside.
@ratchetfreak I have a handheld scanner radio that runs on micro USB and can charge 2 batteries.
 
Farhan
Farhan
4:16 PM
I bought eneloop batteries, which are rechargeable and according the claims, are better than ordinary rechargeable batteries. I haven't tested them thoroughly yet.
 
casey
casey
4:44 PM
@ratchetfreak ive had poor luck with them in the past. mostly with rechargers that decide to no longer recharge (I though I perhaps hit the cycle limit on the batteries themselves, but even new rechargables would not charge)
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
5:01 PM
@casey there's also the problem with leaks
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
y'all marveling at Exploding Kittens - seriously? Do you not know how the internet works?
Step 1: KITTENS.
Step 2: …
Step 3: MASSIVE PROFIT
2
 
Undo
Undo
okay, (probably simple) question: Why can't we just put a mesh cone in front of jet engines to deflect birds?
Guessing it's the turbulence that it would cause air entering the engine?
 
fooot
fooot
5:20 PM
@Undo It would have to be pretty substantial to stop a large bird at flight speeds. It would reduce engine performance, costing more than it saves. And if it fails, the engine ends up worse off.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
5:31 PM
@fooot Mostly the first and last ones. When a bird hits something at flight speeds it would go through most "mesh" products, and if the mesh comes loose in flight the engine is going to ingest that and be unhappy.
 
Farhan
Farhan
Redesigned Stack Exchange user profiles coming Real Soon Now. Here's what mine will look like http://meta.stackexchange.com/users/4/joel-spolsky?tab=profile http://t.co/Ku3NDgKTUL
Tweeted by spolsky on February 20, 2015 at 4:52 PM
 
rbp
rbp
hi -- finally back from Wyoming. I have been offered the pilot job
 
Dan Hulme
Dan Hulme
@rbp congratulations
 
FreeMan
FreeMan
6:15 PM
@rbp Woot! Congrats!!
@voretaq7 Kittehs it what powerz the interwebz, amiright???
 
rbp
rbp
thanks! i'm not sure if I'm going to take it.
its a losing proposition
and i'm not sure I would fly enough hours to make it worthwhile
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@rbp Isn't that the case with most pilot jobs - at least for the first few years?
 
rbp
rbp
@voretaq7 yes, but you have to get enough hours! it looks like i may only get 20 hours / month
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@rbp . . . "Pay the pilots whatever you want, but keep them under the hours where we're required to give them insurance!"
 
rbp
rbp
i have insurance
they are really looking for a fill-in pilot
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
6:26 PM
@rbp Con/1099? Might not be a bad gig for a few extra bucks when you want it
 
rbp
rbp
here's the whole story: I would have to live near Driggs, ID, a very nice teton valley town about 30 miles from Jackson WY. they have offered me 4 days/week, which is standby work @$18/hour, from late june through september. last year they did about 100 (one-hour) flights during the season, june through sept.
there is no guaranteed number of hours, but if the hours are evenly distributed over the course of the week, i could get 4/7th of 100 = ~57 hours over 3 months
if I get paid 2 hours for ever hour of actual flight time (paperwork, preflights, etc), then that would yield $2,052 for 3 months worth of work. hardly seems worth it
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@rbp Sorry you lost me at moving to Idaho :)
 
rbp
rbp
ha ha
its just gorgeous
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
Civilization is north of the Mason-Dixon line and east of the Mississippi, or west of the continental divide and within 30 miles of the coast.
Everything else is "Nope-Land"
(Maine is also "Nope-Land" for Other Reasons)
 
rbp
rbp
black flies?
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
6:33 PM
@rbp Bad Things happen in Maine. If you need evidence I refer you to every episode of Murder, She Wrote and most of Stephen King's novels.
People go to Maine to die.
 
fooot
fooot
...in works of fiction.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@fooot I'm not taking any chances!
Also Maine is north of the snow line which means it's not fit for human habitation from October 1 - April 30 anyway.
 
rbp
rbp
i could say the same thing about Long Island
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@rbp Nothing wrong with Long Island. A little toluene in the water is good for you. The Navy says it's fine. :P
 
rbp
rbp
Amityville, Rifkin, ... shall I go on?
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
6:35 PM
Besides we have a good 50 years before our barrier island erodes away and everyone needs to move to Connecticut.
but at least if I die here there are people I've paid to come to my funeral and say nice things about me.
If I die in Maine they'll probably feed me to a lobster or something. (That's how they dispose of bodies up there right?)
 
rbp
rbp
7:00 PM
well, Idaho is a pretty nice place
Jackson, at least, has a fairly out LGBT community
 
Bret Copeland
Bret Copeland
Wow, some big discussions about SE Chat have been taking place this week. For the first time ever, I'm actually optimistic that chat is going to get some love... and a mobile app.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@BretCopeland First profiles are changing, now they're going to mess with chat?
The rats will be angry!
 
Bret Copeland
Bret Copeland
yes, because both things were perfect before.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
Rule 42 of Development: You can't make people happy.
Rule 43 of Development: If you change things to try to make people happy everyone gets mad at you.
 
Bret Copeland
Bret Copeland
We actually tried out Slack for our internal chat system last summer because there's no active development on our chat.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
7:06 PM
(Rule 44 is "More Tequila." - Actually every 11th rule is "More Tequila")
@BretCopeland Slack is pretty nice, but actually this system is marginally better in some ways
Chief among them, the star wall.
Also reply-linking in slack is kinda Meh.
 
Bret Copeland
Bret Copeland
@voretaq7 That's essentially what we decided. Direct reply to a message is something we really need.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@BretCopeland It bothers me that slack does not have that. It makes it unusable in high-volume rooms unless you're in the room 24x7x365
 
Bret Copeland
Bret Copeland
So that motivated us to make some minor improvements internally. When we @ mention someone internally, it tells us if they're on vacation, added some team pings, and things like that.
We also have an internal beta of real-time chat notifications in the mobile app.
But ultimately, chat still hasn't been prioritized.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@BretCopeland If the mobile app becomes "not sucky" I might install it
 
Bret Copeland
Bret Copeland
@voretaq7 I literally only use it to get chat notifications.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
7:10 PM
(seriously every "community" system mobile app I've used has been uniformly awful - what's up with that?!)
@BretCopeland I can't imagine using it for answering questions - that usually requires opening at least 2 browser tabs for finding references.
 
Bret Copeland
Bret Copeland
This week, the lead mobile dev wrote a proposal to integrate it into the mobile app. Everyone really wants that to happen, so it was well received, but it prompted a bigger discussion about prioritizing chat as a product. Joel even weighed in in-favor of prioritizing it. VP of Engineering is on board too.
So... something might happen.
or it might not, but I'm saying there's a chance.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
6-8 weeks? :P
If someone figures out a way to make chat flags not be the übersück that alone would be a victory
 
Bret Copeland
Bret Copeland
^ Title of our internal doc
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
I just use a whiteboard with things written in red :P
 
Farhan
Farhan
7:29 PM
@fooot Thanks for adding the names.
 
CGCampbell
CGCampbell
Hi all...I've got a dumb question (not yet ready for main site...)
if all 4 sets of props are turning the same direction, at take off there is a "lot of torque" causing the plane to veer to the left, at least until 80mph +
wouldn't the torque be trying to drop one wing and raising the other (what do you call that? lengthwise?) ... this sounds like the torque was turning to craft to the left while on the ground (spinning it on the top to bottom axis)...damn, I'm not clear how to describe this...
IOW, it sound like the torque is affecting the wrong axis, of course I am not a physicist, nor am I a pilot
 
Bret Copeland
Bret Copeland
@CGCampbell I think the question you're trying to ask is: why would engine torque, which wants to induce a roll, affect an aircraft while it's still on the ground? Is that right?
@CGCampbell he didn't say it stopped necessarily at 80mph, he said that's when you had enough rudder authority to counteract the forces. Although the left-turning tendencies are always most pronounced at low speed and high power.
 
casey
casey
7:48 PM
P-factor
P-factor, also known as asymmetric blade effect and asymmetric disc effect, is an aerodynamic phenomenon experienced by a moving propeller, that is responsible for asymmetrical relocation of the propeller's center of thrust when aircraft is at a high angle of attack. This shift in the location of the center of thrust will exert a yawing moment on the aircraft, causing it to yaw slightly to one side. A rudder input is required to counteract the yawing tendency. == Causes == When an aircraft is in straight and level flight at cruise speed, the propeller disc is perpendicular to the relative wind...
@CGCampbell ^^^^^^
 
falstro
falstro
@casey P-factor affects the prop while climbing, not when level/on the ground
(or rather, with a non-zero AoA)
 
CGCampbell
CGCampbell
@BretCopeland that is what I'm trying to ask, yes
 
Fabo.sk
Fabo.sk
8:02 PM
there are more factors to this effect
but in all, it does mostly effect yaw, but also roll, a bit
 
FreeMan
FreeMan
8:34 PM
@rbp Grew up in Pocatello. You have my condolences on Driggs.
 
Bret Copeland
Bret Copeland
I moved to New York from Boise.
 
FreeMan
FreeMan
@BretCopeland That could be culture shock, esp if you moved to the city...
 
Bret Copeland
Bret Copeland
eh, not really. I felt right at home here. I never loved Boise that much.
and yeah, I live in lower Manhattan.
(couple blocks from the Stack Exchange office, so it's rather convenient)
 
FreeMan
FreeMan
I have family on W 86th.
 
falstro
falstro
9:04 PM
@CGCampbell so why haven't you posted it? :)
 
Farhan
Farhan
9:37 PM
The stupid rep cap hit me today and it hurts :(
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
 
Farhan
Farhan
@voretaq7 Why is that awarded once
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
One day there will be a "skeet" badge (hit the reputation cap solely based on votes on posts more than 1 year old) :)
@Farhan Because you can get Epic and Legendary
 
Farhan
Farhan
@voretaq7 Btw, too bad people don't listen to you.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@Farhan The rat will come back if Stack ever messes with vote semantics though
3 hours ago, by voretaq7
user image
 
Farhan
Farhan
9:44 PM
Also, Peter is only 610 behind you. Will you please stop slacking now?
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
NEVAR!
 
fooot
fooot
@Farhan The key is to post something mediocre and then improve it later.
You risk downvotes though.
This is clearly what the rules intend to encourage.
 
Farhan
Farhan
@fooot Ah, that's the golden principle you used. :)
though I didn't like that people started downvoting your answer
 
fooot
fooot
@Farhan But the overachievers come in and steal the attention.
 
Farhan
Farhan
@fooot Nah, I'm still recovering from the hit. It hurts the most the first time.
 
falstro
falstro
9:54 PM
@Farhan I'm not even on the list :(
 
fooot
fooot
What is that last column about?
 
Farhan
Farhan
@falstro You are on this one.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@fooot The fuzz in the "rep caps per year" column
 
fooot
fooot
@falstro Other than your first day, +165 Aug 13 '14. I think you can do it again.
 
falstro
falstro
@Farhan great. A list of everyone who's ever written an answer ;)
 
Farhan
Farhan
9:58 PM
@falstro 10 or more votes only. That's not everyone
 
falstro
falstro
:)
 
fooot
fooot
@voretaq7 So I guess in statistics fuzz=sqrt.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@fooot No.... well a little bit.... look what do you want from statistics?!
 
fooot
fooot
Cookies
 
Farhan
Farhan
@fooot I didn't write that query. But it's Poisson Distribution.
 
 
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rbp
rbp
11:57 PM
@BretCopeland we must be neighbors. I live near chambers and west broadway
@FreeMan @BretCopeland its only for 3 months, and its in the teton valley. i am looking forward to it
 

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