@fooot That had nothing to do with letting himself off the plane, or unauthorized use of the evac slide. Dude didn't pay for that beer. Booze is SRS BZNZ!
@falstro You fly in Germany currently, so this question that someone brought up in ATC training yesterday will be something for you (pertaining to flying in Germany only, don't know if FAA-land has something similar): You are approaching an airfield within a CTR(D) and are cleared to enter via reporting point ALPHA abvoe that point you receive "DEABC, join downwind runway 24 / fliegen Sie in den Gegenanflug Piste 24". Are you allowed to join base and final without the controller saying anything?
@SentryRaven you're supposed to report the downwind and if he says 'continue approach' at that point then yes; if he doesn't say anything you do the NORDO procedures I guess.
In fact... there is one document that explicity says it's allowed... but it's not publicly available... and this is why the German aviation rules are bloated and confusing...
Hey! Stop applying common sense! You are flying in Germany, ffs!!
Yes. Germany. The only place where it's legal to go faster on the ground than a few feet above it. :) (although I wouldn't want to go 250kts on the ground)
If you specify what country you are talking about people will be able to actually give you regulations and so on. As general answer: At the gliding place i use in Germany, we do not cut any more grass then what is necessary to properly show the runway markings (tons, that are properly colored and cut in half). We usually cut the grass every week to every other week, to avoid too much hay on the runway. the end of the runway is a little street, so we do not cut anymore then what we have defined as the runway really. — Maverick2834 hours ago
Are they cutting tons of runway markings in half? Or (knowing a bit of German) is he talking about barrels ("tonne") cut in half? :)
Generally speaking, for those that either have experience calling the number, or, preferably, for those that were paid to answer the phone, what are the benefits or pitfalls of calling?
I had a friend that climbed above his assigned altitude once and was given the number, and he called and had a...
I'm really not happy people are still believing that "Just don't call the number" advice either - that's a great way to go from "A conversation with the controller / supervisor you honked off" to "The FAA sending you a registered letter demanding a written account of your actions within 30 days or else"
@voretaq7 Yes, I've read plenty of "number stories" but I've never read one that ended in a suspension. A checkride in some cases, yes, but even then AOPA's advice is to man up and just do it, because the alternative is going to an NTSB hearing to argue that you shouldn't be required to demonstrate skills that you're supposed to have anyway
I mean you certainly don't tell them "Yeah I went barreling through the middle of Class B airspace because I don't look at charts and I'll fly where I damn well please", but it's very rare that the result of picking up the phone and owning up to an honest mistake is anything worse than "Please make an appointment with the FSDO to take a few laps around the pattern with an inspector so we can make sure you know how to read a damn chart."
@Pondlife Exactly. I know 3 guys who have done 709 rides (2 for gear-up landings, I forget what happened to the third guy). They went and did the flight (the inspector's time is free - you paid for them with your fuel taxes), and the FSDO puts a little note in their local airman file that goes away eventually. It doesn't count as a "violation" & it should be a total non-event.
@Pondlife Yeah some FSDOs will be happy with "We spoke to them. They received additional training endorsed by John Doe certificate #123456789CFI. I'm going to lunch."
if it really is something minor and you are dodging the phone call, that might be all the more reason they'll escalate that up to the FSDO. "I gave this guy a chance to talk to us so we could discuss what happened, but we haven't heard from him. Can you guys try?"
@voretaq7 yeah, they should look to other countries and realize how good they have it... I know of a case where a pilot lost his license and was fined for straying too far from the charted departure route in a Delta (VFR though). He was having radio issues and was distracted by that.
The notorious Egelsbach airport. Which is uncontrolled but within a delta, so it's a bit weird.
@voretaq7 How ... or more precisely who can add other SE websites when one is prompting (either flagging or closing) that a question belongs to a different SE?
@Farhan The general procedure is to petition on Meta, and when there's a consensus as to what the options should be one of the mods wanders into the teacher's lounge and prods a Stack developer to make the change
But at the moment I don't see much of a need for us to have a migration list (we have the occasional question that might be better on Travel.SE or Physics.SE, but they're almost universally BAD questions that shouldn't be migrated under the Don't Migrate Crap principle)
Also if there's something really amazing that should be on another site mods can move it regardless of what the migration list says.
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