@Bob Basically the laptop ran out of battery and suddenly went off. When I powered it back again almost an hour later, it would stay on the Windows 8 logo boot screen for a little longer than usual and then quickly flash a boot screen before it would restart and it kept looping.
@Bob I have many programs that there could be a virus in a data file, and without a feature for running programs, running scripts, connecting to the web and all the other Stuff. how would an exploit work on that program? they found a way because they found a feature, a feature that most people did not need. Could people have lived without macros in a word program?
I'm just responding to his rant that apparently he can create a completely secure OS either from scratch or by ripping out most parts of an existing one.
I don't deny that feature bloat opens up avenues of attack. But, at the same time, claiming that a new OS is less secure than Win95 of all things is just... I really don't have words strong enough to describe it.
@Bob Ok, explain how heartbleed effects me. You could steal all my passwords, get all my user info provided on the web, and that would get you what? the ability to delete my posts :-) Who am I even? the ability to mess up all my online acounts? Why there is no money in it, and the web is the web it is not reality, so what could they do?
@Bob Win7 is less secure for me. I was able to fully control the OS and I/O and everything up to win XP, then it got to interdependant on inter and outer connections. they started applying all that web carp internally too.
@Bob Back in win95 the modem didnt even light up :-) at all, if the person wasnt doing something. Modems Turned OFF (what a concept) when they were not used. Gee now how is that unlike today, with wild wilrelss signals from every home running at minimum for 2/3rds longer than they are used for.
@DemCodeLines It is all about progress. bob thinks we have it, i say there "was another way" the directions chosen , even if that meets the needs of the 1% was clearly not the best way to "improve" sure we got 50 more locks for the 500 more features with the 200 more holes.
@Bob Yea, and all they had to do was copy it back again. This isnt really security at all, this is just A) reducing user awareness B) another reason why they forced everything to be installed (even when off).
It was zero complexity , and zero featured kind of thing. fairly easy to spot something going badly. heck the system had a hard time keeping itself alive , let alone supporting some poorly written virus .
Which car would you rather fix, the one with a 5HP engine hooked to a chain, or a Prius .
Windows is remarkably modular. It's not too difficult to trace any dependencies, not that that's actually necessary for most of the security measures (with operate at a lower level, e.g. ASLR, or a higher level, e.g. UAC).
@Psycogeek You're saying you'd rather use the former?
@DemCodeLines It is just to bad that somone didnt get back in the garage and start again from scratch. My mac buddy tells me that the apple stuff is no different. andorid could be concidered a simplification.
@Bob The safety of the kernal, and the dll hell stuff that was discussed, never became a concern in MY uses. I did not need these kinds of changes. There were others who were confused by this great need, who stood around reading how nessisary it was. "oh boy i am glad you fixed that problem we never had".
That is what i do not get about tripple redundancy , like system restore, it only actually fixed the usual stuff 50% of the time, but people started applying it like a backup. It was the same thing with seatbelt laws, the number of car injuries and deaths did not change, but people became even more unaware as more pedestrians were killed. (i am saying that people do not wake up, they just lasily adapt in the worst ways).
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@DemCodeLines I can get it to do that :-) because I know what i did to hose 1/2 a raid0 drive. I am no less glad that the utilities exist, but man can they f--- up if they do not know what is going on. Maybe we can find an exploit for that :-)
@DemCodeLines Another thing i am scared of in win8 the auto repair features. Listened to the (one of the) developers talk about it on a video for an hour. what those people do is sheer genius, how anyone could think it would all work right .
Maybe it was processing and writing something on the hard disk in the background and unfortunately powered off right when the hard disk was the at the position that is used by Windows for booting and all that got half written stuff over it, therefore corrupted.