Root Access

Potato Cat

12:00 AM

Alternatively I need a potato plantation

Burgi

what happened to your previous home?

Journeyman Geek

@PotatoCat you can grow potatos in a bucket

Potato Cat

@Burgi I left it along with my job

Burgi

that might have been a silly thing to do

Potato Cat

@JourneymanGeek but I can't poop into a bucket and cover it with mud indefinitely

Burgi

12:04 AM

are you now living in a tent close to somewhere with free wifi?

@PotatoCat mark watney did

Potato Cat

@Burgi Staying in a city I hate living a life I hate just for the sake of a job would also have been silly

@Burgi WiFi? Peasant. I get 200Mbps 4G+ in my tent!

Burgi

true but a more dignified, staggered retreat might have helped

Potato Cat

Yeah, well I'm an excrement procrastinator and a piss poor forward planner, so...

Experiment? I meant excellent. Stupid cucumber

Experiment? I meant excrement. Stupid auto-incorrect

@Bob! Save me from the cucumbers!

Bob

You need teacups.

Journeyman Geek

Oh lawd. Mixed references. Also this autocucumbers gawd to lawd.

bwDraco

12:16 AM

@allquicatic: Can we meet up on Gitter for a bit of political talk?

I've already created a private room there.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek well, I mean... close enough? :P

Potato Cat

Automatic cucumbers that sneak up on you without you realising are the worst type.

bwDraco

@allquicatic: never mind.

So I'll discuss it here.

To what extent does Vietnam's government attempt to compel speech (propaganda, etc.)?

An open-source image viewer called ImageGlass contained some propaganda for Vietnam regarding the Spratly Islands dispute (the primary developer is located in Vietnam), but its GitHub repository contained no such content. This raises the question: could the developer be under pressure to publish this content?

In cases like this, I would really want to give the developer the benefit of the doubt. I'm not going to say I'm against Vietnam here (I have no position with regard to the dispute, whether in favor or against Vietnam, and would rather not discuss it) but the presence of propaganda in such an unexpected place as image viewing software raises some concerns about possible compelled speech.

Burgi

12:34 AM

@bwDraco yes he could be under pressure

the government is very marxist

anyway its bedtime

nn

Journeyman Geek

1:00 AM

@bwDraco most of the alleged communist states are also strongly nationalistic. And the dispute in question is hugely emotional.

So he could have chosen to do so himself. However.... The only person who knows is the dev.

allquicatic

1:18 AM

0

A: Ahsoka Tano's Lightsaber Fighting Style

Star Wars' Lightsaber combat is depicted using many different Forms (e.g. Form II: Makashi is linked there). There are many different lightsaber guard poses used within the Star Wars canon and also within the expanded universe / Legends... Starkiller (right) uses a reverse guard with Form V: S...

That Brazilian Headless Horse

@PotatoCat Smoking might be bad for your kittens

Journeyman Geek

2:14 AM

question is is it smoking kittens smoking kittens or SMOKING KIIIITTTTEEENNNNNSSSSS

@allquicatic did luke ever really get formal lightsaber training?

I mean he probably had, at most a few weeks, and most of the training felt like it was force/philosophy over combat training

Rahul2001

2:55 AM

Mornin'

Journeyman Geek

woof

bwDraco

3:14 AM

Night.

Journeyman Geek

3:48 AM

Just to note. Today's one of those days when I have 20 things to do. All of em annoying. If anything needs mod attention, feel free to ping me during the usual times.

allquicatic

4:52 AM

@JourneymanGeek if we look strictly at the movies, he learned basic blaster deflection from Obi-wan, and "learned" on the job by fighting Vader the first time and losing

presumably some time passed between the second and third movies, and presumably he spends some time off-camera with Yoda learning more

Bob

@allquicatic some time must have passed between first and second too

Journeyman Geek

5:24 AM

@allquicatic hm, I suppose at the point of episode 4-6 we didn't know yoda was basically a mad muppet with a lightsabre ... ;p

Bob

6:25 AM

lol Note 7 ads: "rethink what a phone can do"

Hmm... phones can spontaneously combust?

Journeyman Geek

7:00 AM

Light a man a fire....

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek Make a fire for a man and you'll warm him for a day, light him on fire and you'll warm him for the rest of his life

Journeyman Geek

7:31 AM

imgur.com/gallery/6c8W6 done at the vet's

Ah. That's odd.

DavidPostill

7:47 AM

@JourneymanGeek Am I missing some joke here? You can't flag deleted posts ...

Burgi

@allquicatic thanks! nice answer, i will give it a little longer before accepting

Hello all

morning btw

morning

@DavidPostill the whole idea is to annoy an imposter with pings about flags that don't exist..... :P

So yes. You missed the joke.

DavidPostill

7:49 AM

@JourneymanGeek Not enough coffee yet, I only just woke up. :( And they won't get annoyed when half of us are blocked :)

Jan Dvorak

Any idea why OpenOffice Writer would insert a line break between everything? I have a 2-page document of alternating tables and headers (a CV). After adding a row to a table, OO put a line break after the first table in the document. Upon creating a newline inside that row, OO put a line break after the first table, and the undo operation wouldn't remove it (but undoing further and then redoing would). After removing a manual line break later on in the document, OO went from four pages to 7.

Plus some flickering between six and seven after some further actions.

DavidPostill

@JanDvorak Line breaks don't change page count. Are you sure they are not page or section breaks?

Jan Dvorak

Sorry, I meant page breaks

What's a section break?

Actually, I don't know what break it put there if any, what I meant is that it put each heading and each table up to a certain point to a separate page.

That's the print layout view. The web layout view doesn't demonstrate these.

DavidPostill

@JanDvorak A section break is like a page break but also allows changing page format, numbering etc for a section.

Jan Dvorak

8:07 AM

The document had previously been made in OpenOffice 2 on Win7 on a smaller screen, then saved as .doc, then opened on Win10, OO 4. It had been slightly erratic back when it was created, but not so heavily.

The headers between tables are styled as Heading 2, the tables consist of Heading 3 in the left column, and regular table text with some bolding in the right column

Should I link the document itself here?

DavidPostill

@JanDvorak Check to make sure all of your paragraph or heading styles don't have "Required page or column breaks". See wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/…

Jan Dvorak

I've checked for Heading 2 and Heading 3 as well as the table itself

DavidPostill

@JanDvorak Link to the doc if you like. I can have a quick look (with LibreOffice which is pretty similar).

Jan Dvorak

The table has "allow table to split across pages and columns", but no mandatory breaks.

GFSE

GemsFromStackExchange: EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!

posted on September 05, 2016

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!

Jan Dvorak

8:16 AM

@DavidPostill dropbox.com/s/dakob4xaxowt8zp/CV-CZ-broken.doc?dl=0

I can send it in the pre-edit state, too

Would it help me to just redo it from scratch?

DavidPostill

@JanDvorak Wait, I'm looking at it ...

@JanDvorak I can't repro with the doc you uploaded. I can insert rows and paragraphs with no extra page breaks appearing.

LibreOffice 5.0.4.2

Jan Dvorak

OO4 bug?

DavidPostill

@JanDvorak <shrug> Maybe.

Jan Dvorak

I might sidegrade to LibreOffice, but I have no idea in which state the doc will end up.

allquicatic

libreoffice > openoffice

DavidPostill

8:24 AM

@JanDvorak Well it looks fine here. I've been using LibreOffice for a few years at least and never had any problems.

@allquicatic libreoffice is openoffice with bug fixes

Jan Dvorak

I mean, I trust that it will open just fine, but how horribly broken it will be after I save it and open in OO4?

It doesn't seem professional to chuck a note in the email saying "horribly broken in OpenOffice, use LibreOffice instead"

DavidPostill

@JanDvorak I always send my CV as a pdf ... or save as Word 97-2003 doc format if it is a document someone needs to edit.

Jan Dvorak

@DavidPostill good call. How about hand-written HTML?

Given I'm advertising myself as a front-end / everything guy...

Journeyman Geek

@JanDvorak OOo is essentially dead

so LO's probably a good idea

Jan Dvorak

Roger that, downloading LO.

Why does the installer say _x86 in the file name when I have a 64-bit system?

Journeyman Geek

8:30 AM

Roomie probably has gastroentritis or something similar

so.. no cheese for a week

@JanDvorak windows or linux?

Jan Dvorak

Win10

Journeyman Geek

32 bit should run fine

and there's probably little advantage to x84 for an office suite IMO

Jan Dvorak

Why so?

Journeyman Geek

@JanDvorak its unlikely you'll need more than 3.5 gb of ram to load a document ;p

Jan Dvorak

Gotcha :-)

I thought native architecture was always better :-)

Journeyman Geek

8:38 AM

kinda sorta

but windows is 'dual arch' for most part

and often you can't find 64 bit apps

allquicatic

@JanDvorak from a developer's perspective, on Windows at least, it's easier to ship stuff as 32-bit unless your users demand 64-bit due to frequent virtual address space exhaustion on 32-bit; for almost all applications, the performance difference to 64-bit is negligible, and then there are still plenty of people who are using a 32-bit OS.

Jan Dvorak

I'm just curious that _x86 is the name if there's no _x64

Journeyman Geek

@JanDvorak as opposed to PPC or various flavors of arm...

allquicatic

@JanDvorak that's because you're just downloading the default distribution without clicking behind the scenes to find the full download list: libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/…

Jan Dvorak

@JourneymanGeek gotcha

allquicatic

8:43 AM

if you'd make one more click behind the big huge "Download Now" button, you'd see that they do offer a 64-bit Windows build

donate.libreoffice.org/home/dl/win-x86_64/5.2.0/en-US/…

> LibreOffice_5.2.0_Win_x64.msi

it makes sense for the default to be 32-bit because a good 20-50% of users still run 32-bit, and trying to guess what OS the user is running from the info you can glean from their browser is dubious at best

the 32-bit build will work for everybody; the 64-bit build will be a waste of time and bandwidth for a significant fraction of the people who can't run it

Jan Dvorak

@allquicatic I thought the user agent told you outright?

> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:48.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/48.0

allquicatic

@JanDvorak not reliably; proxies can and do mess with this stuff, and a significant number of users have to go through a proxy while faking their user agent due to the proxy looking for specific user agents

Jan Dvorak

good point

Journeyman Geek

@JanDvorak and most browsers are 32 bit

allquicatic

sure, it'll say "WOW64" if you're not using any kind of proxy or restrictive firewall or intentionally hiding your user agent (some people hide it completely to make it hard to do browser fingerprinting), but that isn't proof positive that the user is running 64-bit Windows

I could run OS X on PowerPC and put "WOW64" in my browser string with a simple browser extension

Journeyman Geek

8:50 AM

or BEOS on PPC and...

Jan Dvorak

I've just realised - maybe one of the reasons MS skipped Windows Nein was to sync up the version number with the NT version numbers.

Journeyman Geek

@JanDvorak and naive version checking

allquicatic

maybe also to avoid Germans reading the English version of Windows phonetically as "Windows No"

Burgi

or to prevent confusion with Windows 9x when referring to win95/98/me

Journeyman Geek

@allquicatic NEIN

Jan Dvorak

8:52 AM

This beauty can, too, pretend it's WOW64: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VT100 (but it can't run Libre Office)

allquicatic

Oliver Salzburg

The bitness of your Office app matters more in regards to interop than the ability to load a 5GB Excel sheet

Although I don't know how much interop there even is with LO

Jan Dvorak

Yeah, MS Office x64 can't even coexist with Skype x86, and I don't even mean "run at once"

allquicatic

@OliverSalzburg 32-bit Excel can handle 5 GB spreadsheets just fine; trust me, I've used them... it just stores a sliding window finite amount of data in memory and punts it to disk when not being actively accessed or "nearby" the current view

if your spreadsheet is above a certain size (the "certain size" is even smaller if you have a low amount of RAM), just scrolling around the rows and columns does a lot of disk accesses

you don't really notice on an SSD, but boy do you notice on an HDD

Jan Dvorak

I believe I have an SSHD

allquicatic

8:58 AM

for a lot of fun, try using 32-bit Excel with a >4 GB spreadsheet where there are so many formulas that just changing a single value causes it to have to read several GB of data from disk

if you have enough formula interdependencies between cells, and enough cells, etc., changing one value from 1 to 2 can take minutes on an HDD

it's a lot better on 64-bit with 64 gigs of RAM

Jan Dvorak

For even more fun, put a subdivision modifier (max strength) on two objects in Blender and try to apply a boolean between them.

allquicatic

@Burgi made a few more edits

Jan Dvorak

2^12 quads is a workable number. 2^24 quads isn't.

allquicatic

P.S. two of those pictures are my own characters in SWTOR

aaaand bedtime

Oliver Salzburg

@allquicatic I'm sorry, apparently I should have given a more intricate example that warrants the use of more RAM instead of swapping to disk ;P

Journeyman Geek

9:10 AM

We're a whole load of pedants ;p

Jan Dvorak

Speaking of pedantry, would you mind me grammar naziing here a little?

Burgi

@allquicatic how did you find out what fighting style she conforms to?

DavidPostill

@JanDvorak You can try :)

Oliver Salzburg

9:24 AM

@HackToHell Are you actually using Strider or did you just randomly catch me on GitHub the other day?

HackToHell

@OliverSalzburg was using Strider for a old project, we use gitlab CI run

and didn't we already have this conversation o0

Oliver Salzburg

@HackToHell Not that I remember

And, ugh, GitLab CI! :P

I evaluated that for 1 day and hated it

Jan Dvorak

9:53 AM

@DavidPostill it's less broken in LibreOffice but it still uses more pages than neccessary. How many pages does it take up in your LibreOffice?

In mine it's 4

@JanDvorak 2 pages

Weird...

Hello!

Win10?

Damnit, Windows 10, Why do you take so long to update?

Jan Dvorak

9:58 AM

There's a reason it's called an "anniversary update". It takes a year.

DavidPostill

Windows 7.

Rahul2001

I already got my anniversary update

DavidPostill

Rahul2001

I have no idea what is happening now :/

Jan Dvorak

Dammit, Windows 10, stealing our jobs by breaking our CVs

@DavidPostill dropbox.com/s/3nux8zsn1sugl1q/…

Bob

10:03 AM

@allquicatic @JourneymanGeek Eh... the extra registers would matter a lot more than the larger address space.

DavidPostill

@JanDvorak Weird.

Jan Dvorak

oy

The downside of LO: Inserting a row above the first row of "praxe" of a functional document still splits the page into three. The upside: it happens blazingly fast now.

What view are you using?

DavidPostill

Web layout

Jan Dvorak

Well, see the page layout then.

What does the print dialog say, how many pages?

DavidPostill

No. It was neither print layout or web layout so it must be page layout.

@JanDvorak 2 pages. Print preview looks fine

Jan Dvorak

10:11 AM

Weird... Can anybody with Win10 try?

Journeyman Geek

hm. Different versions of LO?

Jan Dvorak

Latest here

Rahul2001

@JanDvorak As soon as the update finishes... but I'll have to install LO first

Jan Dvorak

Hmph... Undoing on the edited functional document turned four pages into five.

Hopefully a rewrite will cut it. However, I'm wondering if I should just rewrite the thing in HTML instead of .doc.

On one hand, it would be super-easy to edit and showcase my HTML l33t skillz, on the other I would have less control about the print layout. Plus it would confuse recruiters who want to edit it but lack the l33t HTML skillz.

Rahul2001

10:27 AM

HTML is awesome!

Jan Dvorak

Another issue is that I've already sent the recruiter an old doc version, so it would be weird if I sent HTML now.

I've managed to solve the issue, I think, but no idea how. Everything seems to behave after I copy/pasted the content to a new document.

djsmiley2k

Supply them a pdf or something :/

Jan Dvorak

The copy/pasted document seems to work :-/

> The issues I have could happen to nobody else ~~ everyone

DavidPostill

10:58 AM

@JanDvorak Good that it's resolved :)

Jan Dvorak

Well, it might be :-)

OK, I would have as much control over the page layout in HTML :-) developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/break-before

DavidPostill

Free spam flags -> superuser.com/a/1121011/337631

@JanDvorak Did you read as far as "Browser compatibility"? ;p

Jan Dvorak

Oops :-/

page-break-inside / page-break-before is it then

Still, great support :-)

@DavidPostill be sure to visit chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/11540/charcoal-hq

OK, my issue might not have been fixed...

Or rather, copy/paste seems to fix it temporarily but reliably

Rahul2001

@JanDvorak What exactly is that room for? Seems interesting...

Jan Dvorak

It's a room to hunt down spam across SE. Right now it's filled with actual chat, though.

Rahul2001

11:13 AM

Oh... nice

Jan Dvorak

SmokeDetector sits there and links all suspicious posts, and there's even a userscript to provide him with automated feedback

Rahul2001

That's pretty cool

DavidPostill

11:29 AM

More spam superuser.com/a/1121119/337631

More spam superuser.com/a/1121118/337631

Jan Dvorak

in Charcoal HQ, 11 secs ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Windows Backup fails with 0x80070002: "The system cannot find the file specified" by Caroline Bennett on superuser.com

@DavidPostill please come. There's a question waiting for you.

DavidPostill

@JanDvorak What question?

Jan Dvorak

in Charcoal HQ, 3 mins ago, by angussidney

@SmokeDetector also, is that spam, or just an 'I found a link when googling hope it helps'

DavidPostill

@JanDvorak Ah. I need to lurk there for a while and figure out how it works :)

Jan Dvorak

There's also chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/41570/so-close-vote-reviewers specifically for SO

Ferrybig

11:45 AM

Example what smokedetector does:

in Charcoal HQ, 53 secs ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: Natural Beauty Secrets by matthewparrish on superuser.com

DavidPostill

@Ferrybig So what happens next? People manually validate and flag as aspam?

Ferrybig

@DavidPostill exactly

Jan Dvorak

Yes. You wouldn't trust your flags to a robot, would you?

DavidPostill

@Ferrybig @JanDvorak OK. I will flag and !!/report in future.

Jan Dvorak

Thanks.

Ferrybig

11:51 AM

The system also stores a copy of the spam post for future reference at the MS link at the report, this allows the creators of smokey to manually check then for new spam patterns without requiring them to have 10k on every SE site

DavidPostill

@Ferrybig Cool.

@Ferrybig Which (if any) scripts should I install?

djsmiley2k

321

012.

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k What?

Ferrybig

@DavidPostill For that feature, just !!/report in the charcoal HQ is enough (try to make sure it hasn't reported before because duplicates aren't really helping since people can only flag 1 time) smoke will scan the post and just report it to charcoal, there are some userscripts that automatically mark reports as "true positive" if they are reported and you flag as spam or rude, but those are optional

djsmiley2k

sorruy daughter started hammering jkeyboardx

DavidPostill

11:58 AM

@Ferrybig OK. Thx

Rahul2001

Should my blog be W3C valid?

djsmiley2k

@Rahul2001 any reason why not?

Rahul2001

Just asking...

Burgi

gl with that

you will drive yourself mad if you try to be fully compliant

2

Jan Dvorak

@Burgi no, not really

Journeyman Geek

12:10 PM

@JanDvorak see? That's a sign of insanity

Jan Dvorak

?

Rahul2001

@Burgi Currently, it is valid :P

@Rahul2001 lol

1 time(s)? Boo.

@JanDvorak :/

12:14 PM

C'mon, it's #{Date.now.year}. We have if-statements now.

Rahul2001

I'm still working on the backend.... I just put that thing on so that the page didn't look too empty :P

WHAT IS UP WITH CSS?

Jan Dvorak

Not enough of it, for one. BRs for spacing, really?

Rahul2001

@JanDvorak I told ya, I'll work on the front end tomorrow

I need to go for a run, be back later...

Burgi

@Rahul2001 linkeh?

Rahul2001

(deleting in a minute)

Jan Dvorak

12:24 PM

@Rahul2001 Just wait until I see your Javascript ;-)

Burgi

is it based on the bits i sent you?

i'm sooooo laggy today

Jan Dvorak

Wait, what? Ew.

But other than that - compliant indeed, nice

Burgi

1:05 PM

theoretically what should you do if you realise that you have committed infected files to source control?

Jan Dvorak

roll back, that's the first step

Burgi

i think they were present in the initial commit

"theoretically"

Jan Dvorak

Not good.

Bob

1:20 PM

@Burgi Welcome to git filter-branch!

Jan Dvorak

Update on my CV bug: all seemed working until I saved as .doc - then it immediately broke, and not even copy-pasted helped. But, copy-pasting to a new document and saving as .odt did preserve the desired formatting.

Potato Cat

Sex.

@Burgi Asking for a friend huh?

Burgi

@PotatoCat yeah ;)

XKCD

1:56 PM

"Hey guys! I have a great idea for a migration!" "Dammit, Kevin."

Potato Cat

2:08 PM

@XKCD See, even geese have backups

Bas

2:18 PM

Helllo, anyone familiar with windows deployment around here?

HackToHell

@OliverSalzburg :D we already use gitlab and it's easier maintaining one less service, besides our use case is very basic :)

Jul 21 at 13:02, by Oliver Salzburg

@HackToHell This week is Strider-week ;)

Rahul2001

@Burgi nah, haven't incorporated your code yet

Oliver Salzburg

2:37 PM

@HackToHell Yeah, but we haven't really discussed Strider usage :P

HackToHell

Aye, that we haven't :D

Oliver Salzburg

@HackToHell So are we, but I still didn't really get their CI approach. Like, you can't maintain state between build phases unless you build fragments and pass them to other stages?

And when you do use fragments, they are stored forever

So either you store the build fragments forever, even though you don't need them ever again, or you rebuild your project in every stage, which seems ridiculous

So, from what I understand, they don't even really think in phases like I'm used to, as in: prepare, build, test, deploy, cleanup. For them it's just one big process and their phases are more like build variations

So, yeah, please enlighten me how you're using it :D

Burgi

they've found philae!

Journeyman Geek

2:55 PM

did they get her running again?

Burgi

not sure

bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-37276221

Journeyman Geek

> lthough there is no hope of reviving the lander - some of its equipment will have been broken in the cold of space

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek Delete that link please, My WiFi went down, so I couldn't...

I don't want search engines to find it yet...

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 "that link"?

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek To the blog ^^^^

Journeyman Geek

3:04 PM

nvm

Bob

Too late. Google indexes this fast

Journeyman Geek

gone

Bob

Either robots.txt or other access restrictions via your webserver

e.g. 403 on googlebot

Rahul2001

@Bob Nope, didn't index yet :P

DuckDuckGO actually crawled chat's transcript, but didn't follow that link

Journeyman Geek

right to bed. NAUGHT FOOLISH MORTALS!

Hennes

3:14 PM

I am not mortal. I am root!

Guitar Shoe Dave

I still remember back in the days when we used to have to manually submit our sites to search engines

those were the days

Hennes

On paper. In triplicate ?

Step 1: Print out your webpage
step 2: scan to PDF.
step 3. submit to searchengine.

Guitar Shoe Dave

lmao

nah you used to have to go to the submission form and put in the url.. then a week later it would be indexed

Rahul2001

I actually did that with my first site

Guitar Shoe Dave

something like this: google.com/webmasters/tools/submit-url?hl=en_uk&pli=1

Rahul2001

3:19 PM

yeah

Hennes

It there a way to check it without chage? Also, changing the password with passwd command doesn't seem to do anything to the expiry days listed there for root user.. — johnatann 44 mins ago

This one made me curious. How would you solve it?
Best idea I have atm is the loopback mount the image for the embedded device, `chroot` and `chage`

Guitar Shoe Dave

brb reading

i was going to say chage

but one second reading

Hennes

Embedded system. Probably a minimal install with busybox (which does not contain chage) and stupidly always logging in as root.
And I am just assuming that the password is expired.

Burgi

@GuitarShoeDave or you'd have to wait 3 months for a human to check that your keywords match the site you had submited

Guitar Shoe Dave

@Hennes: What about login.defs ? mount the file system as rw create a /etc/login.def's file and pray when the unit comes up that the PASS_MAX_DAYS is set correctly

assuming account's created on boot acknolwedges the login.defs file

man7.org/linux/man-pages/man5/login.defs.5.html

"PASS_MAX_DAYS, PASS_MIN_DAYS and PASS_WARN_AGE are only used at the
time of account creation. Any changes to these settings won't affect
existing accounts."

s/acknowledges/honors/g

Hennes

3:37 PM

New file to me, reading

Guitar Shoe Dave

i gotta seek the mens room. brb

Heres one also related to sshd_config

If you use password ageing and "usePAM yes" you are prompted to change password, even if using ssh keys.
If you use password ageing and "usePAM no" your password never goes INACTIVE and ssh keys work without password expiration warnings.__

source: http://www.unix.com/linux/256596-linux-password-aging-ssh-keys.html

djsmiley2k

4:02 PM

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A: After dropping HDD and booting it up, if it works is there any long term damage?

Always have back ups in 2 locations that are remote from your current location. Even if everything is fine, you aren't safe without backups. If you don't have a back up, take one right NOW. If your drive is making odd sounds - any grinding/squealing then power it off and refer to an expert. The ...

Comments on my answer pl\

@GuitarShoeDave yup, the password never ages if it's never verified

Guitar Shoe Dave

right on

;]

Bob

6:05 PM

@allquicatic dailymotion.com/video/x4k1yrj

Paul Vargas

Hi, @Bob

Is that fox native to Australia?

Potato Cat

6:38 PM

I am annoyed

I want to punch something

arda

@PotatoCat are you working on a php script?

Alexander Johansen

You know what I thought be funny?

Putting a VM up with TeamViewer installed on it, and post the ID and password somewhere very public, just to see what people would do with it

Hennes

Depending on the VM, why not try to format the host ?

guest/host separation is not 100% !

arda

@AlexanderJohansen not 4chan tho. You're likely going to get very illegal stuff downloaded in that if you do

Hennes

Though I guess the much easier way would be 'hey, I am already on the LAN', lets go scriptkiddie.

arda

6:50 PM

Not all 4chan users are bad, but there are the ones that are obsessed with these illegal stuff

Hennes

It might be fun if you could tarpit a VM

Alexander Johansen

Ok... So don't post it on 4chan... How about Reddit instead?

I think it would be interesting to watch what happens

arda

@AlexanderJohansen expect a marijuana background

Hennes

Back to school...... uhm....

arda

@Hennes uuhm

Hennes

6:53 PM

I know there are lots of shootings in US schools, but this is taking it a bit far.

Potato Cat

Six years to build a damned mobile mast. FFS. Bureaucracy gone mad...

Not to mention by the time they started building it it was basically pointless already

allquicatic

@Burgi Jar'Kai? Eh, just because she wields two sabers and I've been roleplaying a Jedi in SWTOR on a regular basis for two years, and my character is a lightsaber instructor (mostly Form II and IV), so I have to know my shit :P

Burgi

7:30 PM

heh

i was also wondering who taught her that style as most of the jedi you see in the films and tv shows use the "classic" upright method

you'd have thought if she was holding the saber upside down someone who was teaching her lightsaber fighting would go "hey look... you are holding it wrong...."

allquicatic

@Burgi well her master was Anakin Skywalker, who was also adept at Jar'Kai

Burgi

hmmm....

Potato Cat

Hmm what to eat what to eat

I've eaten too much potato recently

allquicatic

AOTC: Count Dooku vs Obi Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker & Yoda

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there's, like, the only 5 seconds of Jar'Kai in all 7 of the movies

Burgi

@PotatoCat there was an american guy that ate nothing but potatos for 90 days 3 times a day to prove you could live on them

Potato Cat

7:37 PM

@Burgi Sadly I am not American

allquicatic

which is not to say that Jar'Kai is ineffective; it's just that he was going up against one of the best practitioners of Form II: Makashi of all time, and that form is extremely good at precision strikes, so he simply cut down Anakin's second blade

Burgi

yeah i notice he spins and exposes his back to dooku...

allquicatic

Anakin ultimately ends up defeating Dooku using Form V: Djem'so (in the next episode), which ended up either retroactively or "by design" becoming a lore thingy: Djem'so is very effective against Makashi in general

if that was written into the lore before Episode 2, I applaud them for being attentive to the lore

Burgi

is that a case of anakin saying "i'm not going to let that bastard win again" then changing his fighting style to one known to be good against dooku?

did grevious use djem'so?

allquicatic

7:53 PM

@Burgi well it appears that he's using Djem'so in the latter part of their battle in Episode 2, also, but Anakin gets stronger (in the Force and physically) between Ep2 and Ep3, and Dooku baits him into getting angry and using his anger as a tool, thus turning Anakin down the path of the dark side

then Palpatine completes it by getting him to kill Dooku

Dooku is an extremely skilled swordsman but Anakin's raw power with the Force far outstrips him; even Obi-wan isn't technically as strong as Anakin but just out-wits him in the end at Mustafar, and after those injuries Vader is never as good as he was "whole"

Joe Stavitsky

Anybody successfully change their local sync location with onedrive 2016 (win8.1)?

allquicatic

as the canon goes, Anakin was the singular most powerful Force user of his time, outstripping Palpatine, Luke, Yoda, Mace Windu, and Obi-wan

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