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12:05 AM

Well here goes nothing...

12:17 AM

PHEW

Phone working again, looks like my data is intact

O.o

That was random

Congrats, though

Thanks

Looks like everything's intact

I think I'll leave it un-rooted for now... too risky a time

Can't afford any more lost time

And you know what the irony is? Last few times I went on holiday I purposefully took a copy of the full 2GB flash image for my phone with me just in case but stopped doing it because I was like why the hell would I ever need that

12:46 AM

just think of all the things you learned in the process. someday you may need to hack a google bot to stop it from making another mass grave full of bodies :-)

Blurting out phrases like "robots safer than human" recode.net/2016/1/8/11588618/…

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tho to be fair, they need to split the various flavours of t-bolt

speaking of . . no Analog VGA on these new nvidia cards.

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got DVI-I?

i hope that is some of the power savings.

DVI-D i guess only. but the 480 is comming with HDMI and DP, but not DVI

I did not see yet if AMD dropped the VGA (on the dvi) yet.

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and practically? VGA is dead

12:52 AM

@JourneymanGeek Hang on, does that mean Apple machines don't have DVD drives?

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the only real standards that should matter are DP and HDMI, except for legacy purposes.

@BenN I think not

I don't use Apple things, so I'm just trying to read the chart

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I can't think of a modern system that has one...

Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but every machine at home, at school, and at work has a DVD drive

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I don't have an optical drive at the moment

12:53 AM

I didn't know popular machines shipped without optical drives

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er. Its a logical thing to drop on most low end machines.

I don't have one on my desktop. I figured I'd install one when I needed it... and that hasn't happened

I only need it rarely, but when I do it's really important (e.g. somebody shipped me a DVD, or I only have a disc for an OS thing)

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I have a USB optical drive.

Somewhere.

Oooh, that's neat

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or I pull out my old laptop and use the one there

12:57 AM

@JourneymanGeek yeah, was gonna say. Also headphone jack rumoured to be on its way out, do Apple laptops even have HDMI? I don't recall seeing one.

iMacs certainly don't have it either.

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hm, and no mention of DP

apparently apple TV

and 'older' laptops maybe?

@Psycogeek No analogue VGA on any new cards. AMD ditched it a generation or two before Nvidia and Intel supposedly don't support it anymore either, though many OEMs still incorporate it somehow

@Psycogeek AMD dropped it two generations ago.

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I do wonder, has HDMI become standard on the extreme low end monitors yet?

Last time I cheaped out, I got DVI and VGA

R9 290 already had only DVI-D, that's why I returned mine.

@JourneymanGeek Nope, I returned an extreme low end monitor recently for having VGA only.

My current extreme low end monitor has VGA, DVI, HDMI, and MHL

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ah

heh

my current 'cheapish' monitor does VGA (3x) HDMI 2.0 and DP.

1:02 AM

HP business PCs and monitors seem to all come with displayport first and foremost, sometimes also with VGA second, but very rarely HDMI or DVI

@qwertyuiop ...I'm considering doing that now -_-

@Bob I would recommend it, especially if you're not likely to be near a fast/unlimited Internet connection.

vga dead, I only have had to use VGA for testing, cable, card, monitor, backup connect. but i do have one high priced projector that is VGA or "component"

Incidentally, this isn't the first time I've had to download a 2GB Samsung firmware image over 3G/4G to recover a bricked device while away from home.

And I suspect it won't be the last.

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@qwertyuiop DP's supposed to be the 'standard'

but a lot of cheaper devices (wierdly) come with HDMI

1:05 AM

APBD (April) seems to be the most recent UK firmware I could find...

It's one version newer than what I had but one month older than yours it seems.

@JourneymanGeek DP is God.

in the real world (not the geek world) we do have to realise that there are still CRTs even in use out there, in places like kids bedrooms and all. fact is i still use a beastly 27 inch one in my bedroom.

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@Psycogeek you're an outlier who hates all new tech ;p

And if anyone isn't convinced of the superiority of DisplayPort yet... May I point you to the $10 adapters that'll turn any compatible DisplayPort or mDP port into HDMI 2.0, VGA, and/or DVI in a single almost-passive box

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granted, I have a plasma tv that does VGA and composit only

I would love to still be using a CRT...

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1:07 AM

@qwertyuiop its also 'cheaper' to licence.

@JourneymanGeek tell that to the customers who were running win95 on 16 meg ram machines :-)

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tho, I think the holy grail to me is DP over USB C

@qwertyuiop there's no such thing as a fast/unlimited connection here :P

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@Psycogeek the ones who drop off their PCs on horse drawn carts?

except maybe in uni, which I'm not

1:08 AM

There's only one LCD monitor I've ever come across that's close to CRT quality for contrast and refresh rate, and it's highly expensive due to the fact it's hugely above average for both.

@JourneymanGeek unless you're HP

Some people could use the same washer dryer dishwasher and computer for 20 years, just because it (doenst have win10) works :-)

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@qwertyuiop ._.

DP is royalty free. HDMI isn't, right?

Because they equip their DisplayPort ports with HDMI alternate mode, which I assume requires them to license the HDMI interface on top

And HDMI gives you cheaper licensing if you put their logo on the box, which HP don't, so it's a double whammy

@qwertyuiop I bricked a phone (S4) pre-exam once... had to wait till I got home to fix it

(Unless outputting HDMI over DP alternate mode doesn't require an HDMI license, in which case... Yeah its cheaper)

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1:09 AM

that's silly 0_0

@JourneymanGeek having a single port that can output anything isn't silly, it's awesome.

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@qwertyuiop sticking a logo on a box would be smart ;p

@JourneymanGeek But also bound to confuse people since it doesn't have a physical HDMI port anywhere

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true

Then again, DVI => HDMI adapters/cables basically work off the same principle

And I don't recall anyone mentioning them requiring licenses

1:19 AM

community.norton.com/en/forums/norton-causing-bsod

norton fail

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I hate when developers ask for debug logs. didnt you already cause me enough trouble, and isnt it your job to test and debug :-) When it is freeware i am more likely to comply.

Sometimes problems only show up under very particular circumstances

As a developer I find crash logs very helpful

seems like it is easier for them to dubug 1, than for me to debug 20 :-|

I'm sure it is, but without the logs they might not know what part to debug

1:28 AM

using about 150 total pieces of software, it is impractical that i can assist them in all thier endevours and still have a life.

For me it's mostly been a "ah, that's the function that crashed" that helped me solve the problem

Of course you're not obligated to send them stuff, but it is in both of your best interests

You could tell them to go sign up for Windows Error Reporting though, that's a good idea

yes it always has been in my best interest to both, indicate how the problems occur (or debug) , and to give them a list of what would be the best thing to do for the program. One program (almost) became completly re-designed for ME :-) then was obsolete in 1.5 years.

@Psycogeek can't have it both ways. people don't want to send automatic telemetry and crash reports, but people don't want to go to the effort of manually sending logs...

i only send out crash reports for so long, then my system is so different and wierd, that sending it then wouldnt help anybody.

so generally i use that automated system for only the first month at most of a fresh install, which is like 1/100th of the total time.

3 hours later…

5:02 AM

everyones fading

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theverge.com/2016/6/29/12063908/… this is amusingly bad.

in my eyes: racist

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its not racist if they don't trust anyone.

people with multiple tablets, what's better for reading, screen size or resolution ?

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@HackToHell ideally, you want high pixel pitch on as high a resolution as possible, on a 'better' display type

tbh, I'd just suggest a kindle for reading

5:16 AM

Yeah but mom wants one for youtube, so she pays half of the money :D

I pay the rest and we share the tablet

@JourneymanGeek pixel pitch ? that's a new term

googles

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@HackToHell basically maximum resolution over as small a size possible ;p

so for equal size a higher resolution is better. For the same resolution a smaller size is better

@JourneymanGeek ah like PPI

Mi pad - 2048x1536 - 7.9 inch - 11k
Lenovo S8 - 1920 x 1200 - 8 inch - 9k

Both are kinda expensive, I was hoping for a 7k tablet

But price will probably drop in a quick sale or something

So I'll wait :D

Both are of a higher resolution than my laptop xD

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heh

the mi pad looks like a 'better' option

tho, I'd warn their skins are somewhat odd. Very apple like

Yeah, MIUI is kinda weird

Still better than ZenUI I suppose

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I try to stick to as close as stock android as possible

5:29 AM

@JourneymanGeek Ehhhh

For reading, I'd say the pixel density of 1920x1080 at 10" is more than acceptable.

Don't worry overly much about that.

Though, IMO 8" is rather small. It's in that awkward place where it's too large to be portable like a phone but too small to be comfortable browsing like a larger tablet/laptop.

@Bob Ah, If I go for a 7" tab, the highest resolution one I could find is 1280 x 600, is that okay for reading ?

@JourneymanGeek There's not a lot of tablets these days

I guess people don't get them as much now

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@HackToHell and/or most people who want one have one ;p

so its more of a 'replace on failure' than a new market

@HackToHell It's... acceptable. Wouldn't be great for videos.

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and blah

(still trying to work out the sensible option for getting a one plus thee)

@HackToHell I've read on 1024x800 at 7"

Its not terrible

but I kinda preferred my phone a lot of the time.

5:52 AM

Aha, so it's okay I suppose. Lemme check prices for a good tablet at 7"

Good morning!

This is awesome... fsfe.org/freesoftware/transcripts/…

@HackToHell Any reason you won't either go 10" or just use a phone?

7-8" really is right in the awkward zone.

Heck, if anything, 8" is better than 7...

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@Bob phones suck for movies? ;p

@JourneymanGeek So do 7-8" tablets

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less so? maybe? ;p

5:58 AM

i like my phone for movies, adding in some descent sound. being close enough to somthing small , is just about as good as being far away from something big. then your eyesight goes , and being close enough doesnt work.

magnifying glass, carboard box and a bright phone, is a projector :-)

pico projector and a phone with MHL or Slim port?

@JourneymanGeek Considering @HackToHell already has a phone, the options are spending ~$100-$200 on a 7-8" tablet with minimal value, maybe a bit more on a 10" tablet that's probably more useful, or just using the phone with no additional cost...

Personally, I like reading on my phone. At least for books, it's nice to have the narrow screen.

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@Bob its for his mom tho

But a larger tablet would definitely be much better for movies than a smaller tablet.

@JourneymanGeek Does she not have a phone?

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I donno, its @HackToHell's mom ;p

6:19 AM

"In C# 6, you may define a default constructor that is called when new S() is invoked, but not when default(S) is used." - That feature was dropped in the end - because it caused too many headaches, from what I remember. (You can still do it in IL of course, and the situations in which it's invoked aren't always obvious...) — Jon Skeet 3 mins ago

oooh

Jon Skeet correcting Eric Lippert :P

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0_0

wow the FAA (aviation admin) has now allowed kids to play with RC drones. what a country

@Bob shes does, it's a 4.5"

And that is too sucky for movies

@HackToHell If you feel 4.5" is too small, 7" honestly isn't all that much better...

Eh. Go into a local store and try one out.

under 55 lb drones, that go less than 100mph less than 400 feet up, but not a night/

6:26 AM

Just went out to do that, they don't have the tablet section charged :(

So yeah going back in the evening

...go to a different store

There's only one which has tablets out on display ...

small town

Actually there's another one but it's 20 mins away

So I'll go back in the evening :D

and the rest have simulated displays with cardboard cutouts of how it might (never does) look? and those of course Are plugged in :-)

@Bob I can't read for a long while in my 5.5" phone :S

Eh. It's a pain to search, or read articles, but a nicely-formatted book works well.

6:42 AM

Perhaps i use the wrong font/size

I should optimise my phone reading first

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I tend to use larger fonts

but its cause I'm dyslexic

@JourneymanGeek oh what sizes?

I use this i.imgur.com/Y4ZKQI4.png

This is on a 1080p 5.5"

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@HackToHell on my PC, size 20. On my kindle, the 4th largest size I think

4th largest ?

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yeah

It dosen't tell you what's the size

i.imgur.com/pr5Nnc9.png this is how I read on a PC

7:14 AM

AOC U2868PQU going for $500... hmm.

It's not IPS, but it is 144Hz

!! Caaaat

ChatBot John Cavil

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(No one expects the feline inquisition?)

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7:37 AM

Many animals today

morning

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REALLY? WHERE?

ARE THERE SQUIRRELS?

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at the door I guess

is it worth pushing a junior developer to add more detail to his commits?

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I have a friend in the USA and she's managed to adopt a pet skunk!? To me that's just sounding odd

Yes @Burgi

It will ensure understanding of what their doing as well as being good practice.

When they have enough experience they can put lousy comments like the rest of us ha ha ha

7:39 AM

hehe

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@Burgi somewhat. Tacit Knowledge (I know what I did and why) vs Explicit Knowledge

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I'm struggling with my website. Do I need to do anything clever when setting up IIS8 and IPv6?

i've never had a minion before so its quite scary

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I'm pointing a domain (AAAA) record via IPv6. But when I connect, it just says the site can't be reached.

have you set the bindings in IIS?

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7:41 AM

@Burgi, for me, I'd ask for more but give him the time he needs (and help) so you can show him what to do . Then after a few times he can do it on his own.

@Burgi, yes, assuming that setting the binding for IPv4 is the same as IPv6

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should be

you might want to traceroute the domain name to see where it messes up

this might be a better question for the main site, maybe?

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Indeed, I know that the chatters here are pretty cool though :)

;)

The link I provided has a script to do that, but you can also manually rebuild it with 3 steps. 1: disable winmgmt service, 2. rename (backup) %windir%\system32\wbem folder 3. start winmgmt service. — Kevin Tu 5 hours ago

i am new guy for this forum, i didn't notice this is a aged thread. I have lots of material about WMI, and i have few years' of WMI supporting experience, so i just want to share something with the OP. So i need to delete my answer? — Kevin Tu 4 hours ago

@JourneymanGeek any recommendation on replies to those?

point him at the How to Answer page?

hang on i need to restart FF

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@Burgi commented

7:48 AM

ty

I'm watching independence day right now... a movie released 5 years before i was born...

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Its a great bad movie

Lol...

I'm going to watch resurgence later in the evening...

thats kinda cool youtu.be/IG2HANsvAxw?t=222 an android phone, hotspot and projector. that is "enough bright" and has sufficient reviews to assume it would work.

@Rahul2001 DO NOT WATCH THE SEQUEL!

8:01 AM

@Burgi tickets already booked... why?

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@Burgi what sequel?

The same way there's only one Starship Troopers Movie

and George Lucas fell in a sinkhole right after return of the jedi was made, which is why the new trilogy took so long...

8:17 AM

Wait, you can change the 777 in chmod 7777 ?

its awful and does not stand up to the original is awesomeness

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8:34 AM

@JourneymanGeek that looks nice

Aug 27 '15 at 22:08, by Bob

"oh just chmod 777 it, it'll work!"

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@HackToHell its just sumatra ;p

opens PDFs and epubs (and possibly mobis). I had to edit the config file to get the colour scheme and font working

8:50 AM

wat!!? "Windows 10 set fire to my house"

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Q: Windows 10 fried my laptop and burned down my house

I upgraded because you guys aren't helping so . ugh Windows 10 is easier.It BSODed after install and then it crashes and then my laptop made a weird noise and there was smoke coming out of the fan and then FIRE I ran away and part of my house burned down and my house is rented and I am living wit...

windows laptop overheating

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@DavidPostill troll

@JourneymanGeek Likely, yes. Can your superpowers match him up to a known troll? ;)

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That username has had 3 questions from unregistered accounts with the same username

no super dog nose required

does your nose have a cape?

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no? nor does it wear underwear, on the inside or outside.

9:00 AM

@JourneymanGeek Hmm. How do you find them? Searching superuser.com/users doesn't seem to ...

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@DavidPostill er. I happened to notice a few on my rounds? ;p

@DavidPostill Super ~~cow~~ mod powers.

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and the nickname's kinda distinctive

@Bob

4 mins ago, by Journeyman Geek

no super dog nose required

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@DavidPostill I quite literally just nuked 3 of his questions/accounts ;p

there is something here that dosen't quite smell right

but shrug

9:08 AM

@DavidPostill super dog noses are additional to the super ~~cow~~ mod powers

whoever coded this was a fool

a fool and an idiot

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that should be a comment? ;p

and your boss?

lol

3rd party company

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9:09 AM

@Bob only if your mod is doglike. A cat will simply push over everything off the countertop.

they've got a wrapper for mysql_real_escape_string

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anyway, I've let the other mods know the user's an issue, deleted as needed, and if this person turns up again, now all y'all know.

all the classes are in the global namespace

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@DavidPostill funny thing is if I found out using mod powers I can't tell you guys since it involves PII

PHP has namespaces?

Oh yea those things no one uses

9:12 AM

the new versions yes

i used them in my last job... :(

so yeah the namespace thing might be a legacy issue due to the age of the site

still annoying

@JourneymanGeek You missed one :)

superuser.com/questions/1095249/…

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Oh

pretty sure I nuked that

@JourneymanGeek Never mind. It's a review test :) My bad.

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ah

Its POSSIBLE I missed it

but only cause someone else got to it first

vanishingly remote though

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9:20 AM

@Burgi you'd be suprised.

this doesn't bode well for my OCD

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On some days stuff like that gets handled by users really fast

@Burgi why shouldn't I watch the sequel?

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@Rahul2001 reviews range from "I only watched this movie cause my employer paid me" to "Meh"

ho @Sathya

\o

9:21 AM

Don't have a choice now...

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what's the dot mean?

@Rahul2001 all I can say is leave your brain at home, and enjoy the kabooms.

unread chat messages :(

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ah

I have to keep that dot off now

:( sob

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I typically don't have those unless I sleep ;p

(and that's rarer than it used to be ._.)

9:22 AM

it just hits me..

brain goes hey look

blue dot

GO CHECK WHAT THAT IS

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the pings, not messages.

lol

the best thing is when all hell breaks loose ;p

LOL qz.com/715019/why-you-shouldnt-share-links-on-facebook/…

@Sathya wow cool

Stupid flashing thing was useless

@JourneymanGeek :P

@Sathya not sure i see you issue

I'm confused. Is that a Chrome thing?

Firefox has had that for years...

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I don't think it's ever been an issue for me :P

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9:25 AM

I think he means the dot + he's on mod vacation ;p

ah

makes more sense

@Rahul2001 bad script, retconning of the entire original invasion, bad acting, weak main characters, plot holes you can fly a planet sized ship through....

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@Burgi the first movie wasn't exactly... logical either

and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much deus ex machina

@JourneymanGeek true but the casting and direction was much better

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also, feels like they're trying to franchize it

9:27 AM

now that I have got that out of my system, i'll unpin this tab and be back later

see you folks!

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I wouldn't mind if they turned it into a series ala sg1 ;p

that might work

it did feel like they were setting up a 3rd film

is michael gove standing for PM?

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!!who

ChatBot John Cavil

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ahh... him. Never heard of him.

9:33 AM

@JourneymanGeek he is a terrible politician but a big power in the current leading party

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most politicians are terrible

they made him education secretary. all the teachers went on strike

they made him justice secretary. all the judges went on strike

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Excellent. If he's prime minister, all the MPS might go on strike?

maybe....

his qualifications are that he went to school with david cameron

Dammit that recovery flash last night overwrite my volume control override hack

9:54 AM

ahhhhhhh

driving test time D:

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Remember, old people are 20 points.

Is that +20 or -20

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I never bothered to ask.

@iMerchant The stormtroopers managed to destroy one in A New Hope, so not blaster-proof. Apparently it was big enough that even stormtroopers couldn't miss! :D — Jane S 3 hours ago

Actually, storm troopers are highly trained professionals.

You should try shooting that many blast and miss consistenly.
That takes real skill

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10:10 AM

@Hennes the theory seems to be is they were ordered to miss

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Trion 150 ^

argh! rogue cursor!

There, rogue cursor removed :P

@JourneymanGeek i agree

the first time we see stormtroopers they are assaulting the tantive IV and appear to quickly subdue the crew with minimal losses

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10:33 AM

and, they want the millenium falcon to escape, not kill the princess, or ben kenobi or luke or....

10:44 AM

@JourneymanGeek Are users allowed to have have offensive words in their username? superuser.com/users/612004/imsofuckingfancy

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Q: How to flag users with f-bombs in their usernames and no posts?

Possible Duplicate: How should I flag a user account if it has no posts to flag? Lately I’ve been finding users with offensive usernames but no way to flag this because they have no posts, like this one. Should we flag those, and if so, how? Some like this one do at least include po...

support flags profile-page user-accounts offensive

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Q: Inappropriate username and/or gravatars.

Possible Duplicate: Flag abusive users I'm not sure if there is a post about this already. I searched my title text and the first two pages returned nothing useful, so here goes: I have just come a crossed a user with (imo) a questionably inappropriate username and gravatar match-up...

discussion display-names gravatar

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Q: Should profane user names be prohibited?

I know that profanity is discouraged in SO posts. However I recently saw a user with the F-word in his name. Just out of curiosity, I searched for other users with the same word and found many hits - see below. Personally this does not offend me. I just wonder how others feel about it, and if...

discussion etiquette display-names

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Q: Possibly offensive usernames

I flagged this user as having a possibly offensive name (another example): I said "possibly offensive" because it's possible it's a genuine surname I wasn't aware of, but googleing didn't show any evidence and urban dictionary pretty much matched my definition of it which seems offensive. Is...

discussion display-names offensive declined-flags

@bob. Thanks and flagged.

whoops chat.stackexchange.com/…

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11:25 AM

0_0

context?

Okay newscientist, newyorktimes all have paywalls for articles

#k

yeah really annoying

but the alternative is advert supported

@HackToHell Here’s How To Get Around the Paywalls of the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and More

@DavidPostill yeah I reject cookies from nyt :D

@HackToHell How to Bypass New Scientist's Paywall Using a simple Chrome extension

11:34 AM

@DavidPostill oooh

that's lame

they simply added a html element covering the text

@DavidPostill thanks

@HackToHell np ;)

@JourneymanGeek saw the game on sale. thought it looked like something @allquixotic might like and pinged him about it. then vaguely remembered him talking about it, searched, annnnd...

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ah

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