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Bob
Bob
12:58 AM
@allquixotic *poke* how's it looking for today? :P
 
Edity
Edity
:)
 
Edity
Edity
1:42 AM
!!doge
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
       wow
              very fail
                          much user
so pro
 
Edity
Edity
!!commands
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Edity That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
Edity
Edity
!!thatword
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
 
Edity
Edity
1:43 AM
LOL
!!mindjail
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Edity That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
Edity
Edity
ok
!!learn frequency 'I AM THE BEST CHATBOT EVER LIVED'
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Edity Command frequency already exists
 
Edity
Edity
!!learn say 'I AM THE BEST LIKE NOONE EVER WAS TO CATCH THEM IS MY REAL TEST TO TRAIN THEM IS MY CAUSE POKEMON GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL'
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Edity Command say already exists
 
Edity
Edity
1:53 AM
D:<
!!learn pokemon 'GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL'
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Edity Command pokemon learned
 
Edity
Edity
!!pokemon
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Edity Input not matching /CATCH/. Help: User-taught command: THEM 'GOTTA
 
Edity
Edity
!!learn
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Edity Could not process input. Error: undefined is not an object (evaluating 'command.name.toLowerCase')
 
Edity
Edity
1:55 AM
!!help
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Edity Information on interacting with me can be found at this page
 
Edity
Edity
!!forget pokemon
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Edity Command pokemon forgotten.
 
Edity
Edity
!!learn Edity 'greet I am Edity, the maker of this command, please ping me @Edity if there are any problems, ps I AM THE BEST'
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Edity Command edity learned
 
Edity
Edity
1:58 AM
!!edity
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Edity Input not matching /I/. Help: User-taught command: am 'greet
 
Edity
Edity
!!forget edity
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Edity Command edity forgotten.
 
Edity
Edity
@allquixotic great timing- I am learning to make a command
!!learn edity '<msg> I am @Edity, grammer checker, exellent windows repairer, and this command maker. Ping @edity if this is broken'
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Edity Command edity learned
 
Edity
Edity
2:01 AM
!!edity
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Edity Input not matching /I/. Help: User-taught command: am '<msg>
 
Edity
Edity
!!forget edity
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Edity Command edity forgotten.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob I'm here
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic \o/
When do you want to start?
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
2:05 AM
@Bob soon as you're ready and I can get my BT connected
BT is connected
@Edity umm...... what? what kind of "timing" do I have?
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic I'm just gonna grab a quick lunch. 10 min?
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
also, "grammer" and "exellent" are horrifically spelled for someone who's concerned about grammar >_>
 
Bob
Bob
lol
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob sure
 
Edity
Edity
@allquixotic lol
bai
 
Bob
Bob
2:19 AM
@allquixotic Steam? TS?
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob Yes to all
 
CausingUnderflowsEverywhere
CausingUnderflowsEverywhere
3:08 AM
@onebree what do you need 2 gfx cards for?
@PSYCOGEEK yes I remember hearing about this... interesting but my parts are already 2 months old, there was no stench! :) it must be the powersupply or just that smelly paper tray I had on the floor.. it was fresh from an item I unboxed go figure.

my powersupply is... 4 years old?
..anyways I left my case open for that air to air out and it doesnt really smell anymore except a teensy bit from inside the power supply so maybe I did blow a cap :/
interesting. capacitors advertised as solid cannot blow?
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
3:47 AM
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere plug one into a wall socket. they probably blow "different" :-) more solid. a normal elecrolytical cap blows with much fan fare, and confetti and (before they had safety releaces) with force of air like firecracker was in them.
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
Is there a way to manually get an NVIDIA GPU to drop its power state to a low-power mode, like it does when throttled automatically due to power or thermal limits?
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
there is still many non-solid caps used in much computer stuff. especially power supplies still, and cheaper motherboards, and less critical locations of motherboard power cleanup stuff.
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
Any board worth its salt will use high-quality Japanese caps in all the important areas. Lower-quality capacitors will likely degrade over time ultimately resulting in unstable or unreliable performance. Outright explosive failure of capacitors is not exactly common these days under non-abusive conditions, though.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
@bwDraco underclock? it . there are many overclocking utilities for either video card to do that. In ATi (for example) you can lock down a low rate right in their own software, and make a profile for it.
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
I can't get it to drop the voltage like it does when the power state is dropped.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
3:52 AM
hmm mine does, but not like idle, just like the slightly lower voltage it uses at that rate. Like i set 300-300 as a "green" and it will potentially go to 150-150 and then it starts being less stable.
It drops to something like 1V, but i would have to look closer.
ahh ATi also has that "power" thing, where you can set the limitation based on actual power, even if it is clocked normal
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
Doesn't seem to be possible on this mobile GPU.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
it confused me at first, till i realised what it did
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
(NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M)
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
i believe MSI-afterburner is one of the high recommended ones for nvidia, and rivatuner next , which seemed more complicated to me.
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
Alternatively, is there a game-agnostic way of limiting the frame rate?
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
3:58 AM
But a laptop is a laptop, so what are you actually trying to achieve , long battery life? Just turn the evil V-sync on
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
Stable performance without throttling. Underclocking isn't ideal.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
stable, tear it apart (every 2 years) and redo all the thermals
put a ducted fan on the ouput , to increase the flow a bit when on the desktop?
Feed the AC unit direct, (ducted) into the input or general area around it. I actually have that possibility here. 1/2 the window AC goes down a simple vent duct , and can be pointed anywhere.
dont bother with "ultra" setting, use High? Adjust:
Ambient occlusion,
shadows
Any refection settings
Foilage distance
Turn off DOF and Motion blur
Those things(seem) to take lots of power for little or negative benefits, just gernerally
Play games from 2009 :-) yea what is it, i have played many games that were made back when that GPU power was not available. many of them look Just As Good, some of them certannly are old crappy grafics.
Is cool playing slightly older games on thier "ultra" settings, with my video card clocked to 300-300 :-) when they still look good.
when they look like a 1950s version of doom, not so much :-)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
4:22 AM
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere electrolytics blow. Other caps may fail in other ways. That said, there's a specific 'vintage' of cheap caps that were more likely to blow and they're still preferred for filter caps.
look up 'capacitor plague'
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
4:32 AM
But what about a Mold smell he was saying? what in any computer would produce a smell that was similar to mold?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
I have no idea what that might be
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
Skyrim is CPU-limited on this machine.
Draw distances were extended per this question:
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Q: How can I extend the view distances further?

DMA57361OK, I'm lucky enough to have the game run smoothly enough for my tastes on the Ultra settings - so with all the game-provided settings set to maximum. Most of the time it looks brilliant. However, once you find a large open space, and then can see the distance rendering cut-offs, such as these d...

pc skyrim
(DMA57361 is a former mod of Super User. Very friendly and lovable person.)
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
I hate short draw distances, My EYES dont work like that, they also dont blur :-) as things move faster, and my eyes are not a camera taking portraits , things i look at tend to be in focus :-) For me some of the "work" they do doesnt help reality
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
er. He was?
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
Although it does a great job of heating up the room, and increasing my utility bill.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
4:45 AM
Damn, I must be getting old
ahh, 2011 batch
I guess I didn't interact with him that much
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
much flowers and grass though are many many verticies, seeing a textured mountain in the distance, may be "easy" for a gpu to render. rendering 30,000 grass blades not so much. So when given the option, i might tweak it back a bit.
First time I saw 3D rendered lower canopy, that looked like it could choke a GPU was Farcry. I was hoping they had some "clone render" technique ??? to pull that off.
It is all so amazing anyways, when just a few years ago, scenes even partly that sofisticated would take an hour to render each one. How far they have come. Watching a game review, i always agree with the things they hate, but we have come so far that early 3D was ameoba , not even caveman
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
5:20 AM
Got a poison ivy rash on my right wrist a few days ago. Not a big deal but it's annoying me to no end.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
when hiking, i carry "lava" soap for poisen ivy, poisen oak, immediataly removing the plant oils, much like hot pepper oils, and the huge pain ends quick.
that is before grinding them into the live skin, by scratching the itch
 
 
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Bob
Bob
7:15 AM
@bwDraco underclocking is pretty much the standard way
@Psycogeek just wash it in alcohol :P
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
7:38 AM
that too
If i was one of those who carried alcohol for stove . I found out that propane/butane has 2x "btu" or whatever than alcohol, so that sounds lighter.
 
Bob
Bob
@Psycogeek But harder to transport
You can just pour alcohol into a bottle
 
 
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HackToHell
HackToHell
9:28 AM
wow
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
really. whatever happened to the idea of space planes? why is it not viable to fly normally with aerodynamic lift through the atmosphere , with a plane like item that is space compatable?
then to land it again like a plane, instead of a "pair of pliers" (description used for landing the shuttle)
 
Bob
Bob
@Psycogeek cause the wings are bulky and fragile.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
9:44 AM
then quit strapping it to an ICBM rocket to get it up :-)
would you believe thrusters and a warp engine?
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@Psycogeek It's coming back that is the problem. Wings that can survive reentry aren't very aerodynamic.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
so there is no possbility to do that like slower?
its gonna be a while then that anybody is flying through the horizon of a black hole , if they cant even cope with the blue marble .
 
Bob
Bob
@Psycogeek if you go slower you literally fall
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@Psycogeek The shuttle slows down initially by flying backwards and using its engines. Conventional aircraft tend not to perform very well flying backwards.
 
Bob
Bob
the only thing keeping an object in orbit is the speed at which it misses the ground
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
9:51 AM
Space Shuttle
The Space Shuttle was a partially reusable low Earth orbital spacecraft system operated by the U.S. National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), as part of the Space Shuttle program. Its official program name was Space Transportation System (STS), taken from a 1969 plan for a system of reusable spacecraft of which it was the only item funded for development. The first of four orbital test flights occurred in 1981, leading to operational flights beginning in 1982. They were used on a total of 135 missions from 1981 to 2011, launched from the Kennedy Space Center (KSC) in Florida. Operational...
See "Re-entry and landing"
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
so (your saying) they have to plummet at extreeme into the atmosphere , to get the balance of gravity pull vrses the sudden existance of substance.
Then the only solution to the madness would be a real understanding of "gravity".
 
Bob
Bob
@Psycogeek Basically, they're already going very very very fast (sideways). When they slow down, they don't go sideways fast enough and so they fall into the atmosphere. They can't really slow down slower because as soon as you reach "fall into the atmosphere" drag slows you down even faster.
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
They have to shed speed somehow. Part of that is done by drag, which heats the shuttle up to 1500 C (hence the ceramic tiles). The drag also produces extreme forces which would rip the wings off a conventional aircraft.
 
Bob
Bob
@DavidPostill AFAIK it's more that the drag is unavoidable...
It's efficient, though.
Otherwise you'd need a lot of fuel to prodice ~9.8m/s of thrust just to keep it up vertically while you slow it down horizontally.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
for a while when they quit doing moon missions and reduced the NASA stuff and the space "race" , i was Ok with it. because it seemed like this planet is not yet ready. When you have to pretty much destroy everything, to really become space born. Space-X landing and re-useing the stuff is at least some hope.
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
10:01 AM
@Bob The drag could be reduced by flying nose first instead of 40 degrees nose up. Downside would be more heat (less drag == flying faster == more friction) and the shuttle would burn up.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
Like anything, eventually they will find Much better methods, would be nice if it was sooner than later.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
heh. You basically need a ton of fuel to reach space. You actually get better fuel economy with the drop tanks
there's a few projects where they launch rockets off aircraft tho.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
@DavidPostill the drag would also be across much more area , if it wasnt a pregnant guppy skipping across the water like a rock :-)
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@Psycogeek And more area == more drag == more force == wings ripped off, like I already explained.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
then toss out about 50% of the weight by removing the redundancies , and sending up suicide terrorists :-) as astro-nots.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
10:08 AM
heh
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
If our cars were built like the shuttle , they would get 10million miles, and you could fix it in your garage with a set of gloves and cresent wrench.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
er, it would only run twice a year, and occationally blow up.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
lol
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
Hmm. The thought of a terrorist wearing a huge steerable extremely explosive suicide belt is rather alarming ;)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
The big issue with a shuttle is they had a big idea, and when parts didn't work they engineered it by commitee.
And they didn't follow up
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
10:13 AM
@DavidPostill so then what is the deal with the upper atmosphere that they encounter so much substance at once? and not wisping through a bit of hydrogen helium for a while as they enter?
IMO it is because they are entering too fast, because they dont have wings.
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
@Psycogeek You need to go super fast sieways
You could escape earth's gravity going up, but that's too much fuel and not an orbit you need for an satellite
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
so it is all about the transition , from low-substance centrifugal high speed spin to defy gravity (orbit) , to crashing stupidly into the high substance , that could provide areodynamic lifts, and be plane like.
 
Bob
Bob
@Psycogeek Because to actually stay in a certain orbit you need a certain speed.
Most satellites in LEO actually do encounter some minor atmospheric drag.
But they stay up there for months/years.
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
Yeah the ISS keeps adjusting orbit(not sure from drag or debris(
@Psycogeek needs some KSP
!!ksp
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@HackToHell That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
Bob
Bob
10:22 AM
To go low enough to get to a point where you're really slowing down quick-ish, you're going too slow to stay at that level.
So while you slow down you're actually dropping faster and then slowing even faster etc
actually iirc the lower your orbit the faster you have to go to stay up
but that could be misremembering :P
brb my dinner's on fire
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@Psycogeek The drag increases the lower you are in the atmosphere ...
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
TIL of capacitor plague
Perhaps my Mobo failed in late 2004 cause of that
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
i wonder how much it would be like going 3000miles per hour in a hypersonic sub, then trying to crash it into the water
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@HackToHell its pretty likely
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
@HackToHell my last motherboard the caps right under the video card were slowly being destroyed from heat. The GPU had not only the normal heat, being ducted mostly out back, but the RAM modules themselves were the main heat source.
with the new idea of stacking ram next to the die, that specific thing would not have existed.
Ahh if i had only known (thermal pics) i could have addressed it, like I had everything else covered.
 
Bob
Bob
10:38 AM
@Psycogeek the other fun one is when the VRAM itself dies
then you get to wonder if someone slipped you some LSD :P
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
What occured was it started acting flakey about a year ago, the voltage was dropping on the (overclocked) CPU, so for much time it survived because I cranked the voltage up again in the bios, and lowered the overclock.
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
@Psycogeek suck yeah
@Bob Seen those in school!
Fun stuff
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
this time it is probably the Raid card, that thinks it is a whole computer, cooking the same basic area. so much for "cool & quiet"
and really this raid card isnt that much faster than the old stuff was, so what wonderous new method of spinning processing wheels for i dont know. When it aint doing nothing, the processor on the raid card just cooks away. Same thing with the other brand tested.
Might as well be searching for extra terrestrials :-)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Psycogeek affordable thermal cameras is a newish thing tho
 
Bob
Bob
11:18 AM
@JourneymanGeek affordable-ish ;P
Though that's really more of a demand thing.
Lots of digital cameras (and sensors) can capture IR... and have filters to block it :P
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
serverfault.com/questions/541816/… a cooking LSI raid card. Why arent people asking WHY these cards are so hot when they are doing Nothing at all? I wonder if mine in the array of possible adjustments could be told to cool it and lose a few miliseconds.
Infinate Loop - On / Off
Seriously bad programming - Default / Worse
Do what intel would do - Today / tomorrow
There must be thousands of servers that when mostly parked are sucking up enough energy to charge allquixotic prius 10 times over.
 
Pandya
Pandya
I've experienced problem with uploading file on the web. I use Trisquel GNU/Linux and Abrowser as default web browser. In an (on-line) application form, there is option to upload document allowing formates pdf and jpeg. When I've tried to upload pdf document, site shows error "only odf and jpeg files can be uploaded". So, in-spite of uploading pdf file, I was getting such error.
Later on I've tried IceCat and file(s) are uploaded successfully.
So, I want to know what should be the reason for such a problem?
In other words, what is causing (for) problem?
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
11:36 AM
same exact file? uploaded to the same exact location? and only the program used for the uploading differs?
 
Pandya
Pandya
@Psycogeek yes same exact file and location.
I am also surprised when recognized that it was problem with my browser as I never experienced such problem before!
Note that I also tried to clear data (cache etc.) for browser.
 
Sandra
Sandra
11:53 AM
hi
my cousin came to our house yesterday and he steal my wifi password with an android software but he didn't tell me what was the software. is there anybody here know
i got some software but they were bullshit
did u have the same experience
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
sure he didn't just socially engineer it?
 
Sandra
Sandra
No
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Also, what kind of wifi password?
How do you know?
 
Sandra
Sandra
because i didn't told him anything and my password is so difficult
using number + string + #@&
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
physical access to the device that the password is set on?
 
Sandra
Sandra
11:56 AM
no he told me he has a special android software for it
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
not really enough information to tell then
 
Bob
Bob
Doesn't matter what he told you if he isn't willing to show.
 
Sandra
Sandra
i search internet and there was a bunch of android software about wifi hack and most of them were useless
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
typically wpa2 is supposed to be hard to crack
 
Sandra
Sandra
@JourneymanGeek do you know any software to hace wpa2
 
Bob
Bob
11:58 AM
Nope. There's no inherent weakness.
Apart from guessing (/brute-forcing) the PSK.
 
Sandra
Sandra
!!
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
@Sandra That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
 
Bob
Bob
There's other issues like physical access as @Psycogeek mentioned and also WPS.
 
Pandya
Pandya
@Sandra It seems about cracking not hacking!
 
Sandra
Sandra
12:00 PM
i changed the password again and he did it in afew minutes !!!
i think he didn't have enough time to all aircrak-ng.org
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
I'd try turning off wifi, not doing it, and making him try again.
 
Bob
Bob
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
@Sandra did he ever have his hands on your own devices ? like did you hand him your phone. let him use your computer?
 
Sandra
Sandra
No never
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Bob so. shitty cheap mechanical keyboards are shitty?
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
12:02 PM
Did you ever upload some piece of software suggested by him
 
Sandra
Sandra
No
 
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Apparently some people like them :P
 
Sandra
Sandra
he came to our house after 5 years and we hadn't any connection with him
during these years!!
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Sandra I'd totally peek over his shoulder the next time he tries it and see what it is
naw, I usually just socially engineer passwords ;p
 
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Eh, it's either physical access, taking the P/W off something else, or WPS PIN.
WPS PIN is the only 'modern' technical weakness.
Heck, even WEP isn't that fast to break.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
12:05 PM
@Bob or he's full of shit
 
Sandra
Sandra
would u plz to tell me how he can find out this password with social engineer
 
Bob
Bob
Though IIRC you can brute-force WPS PIN in just a few minutes, given a weak AP implementation.
 
Sandra
Sandra
**2331Sandra511#@&
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Sandra "Hi, I need to connect to the wifi, can I ask..."
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
@Sandra like that :-)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
12:06 PM
@Sandra I think I just accidentally socially engineered your password
5
 
Sandra
Sandra
no i'm not crazy :D
 
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek This guy seems happier with them :P
 
Sandra
Sandra
it is just a format of my pass
but not exactly
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
@Sandra What method did you use to determine that he had actually aquired your password? Not what method did he play magic tricks on you with?
 
Sandra
Sandra
because he told me with lough!!
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
12:09 PM
@Sandra are you sure its your wifi he was connected to?
 
Sandra
Sandra
yes!!
@JourneymanGeek i told you, he revealed my password and told me what it is!!!
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Sandra So, yeah, no idea what it is then
 
Sandra
Sandra
lol
i think he is the smartest one but he don't know anything about software lol
or hacking !!!!
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
If its simple tool use he won't need to know, but most of us don't break into other folk's wifi networks ;p
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
@Sandra well we didnt ask what method of security your wi-fi uses? there is a rather old method that was supposed to be really easy to break into using MITM or something
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
12:12 PM
@Psycogeek I did pretty early on
 
Sandra
Sandra
Totally you don't know
right
 
Bob
Bob
@Psycogeek WEP is broken, but not taht fast to get into
You're looking at several hours of snooping, depending on the amount of traffic.
 
Sandra
Sandra
so @Bob is there any software to broke it
 
Bob
Bob
10 mins ago, by Bob
@JourneymanGeek Eh, it's either physical access, taking the P/W off something else, or WPS PIN.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Sandra Yeah, we don't. and we don't have enough information to guess
 
Sandra
Sandra
12:16 PM
i think i use wps setting
:D
 
Bob
Bob
then turn it off
cause WPS PIN is broken
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
That might be it
 
Bob
Bob
very very broken
more broken than WEP
 
Sandra
Sandra
sorry i just checked
it is WPA2 PSK
 
Bob
Bob
WPS is independent of the primary key/WPA auth
 
Sandra
Sandra
12:17 PM
so
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
iirc something called reaver would do it
 
Sandra
Sandra
what is iirc
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
if I recall correctly
 
Bob
Bob
generally, WPS config is a checkbox somewhere else
lol. this AP puts WEP as a sub-option of "Open"
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
youtube.com/watch?v=zHSIh3abuEM 2 step process? gain access to the router via unchanged defaults, get the rest of the info from the router itself?
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
1:05 PM
superuser.com/questions/1081793/… , ohh advanced question. "Since any "read" operation on the card will lessen the chance of recovery" wow the things you can learn from "very knowledgeable". did he mean write?
 
qwertyuiop
qwertyuiop
1:43 PM
!!caat
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
1:56 PM
@JourneymanGeek I thought it was the Sandra from SF.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@jokerdino naw
I doubt it at least
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
didn't match
 
qwertyuiop
qwertyuiop
@Bob The ability to make notifications from apps not make noise/vibrate, without hiding them entirely
 
Bob
Bob
2:27 PM
@qwertyuiop Doesn't silent do that? Or do you mean with phone audio still on?
IIRC there's a volume control for notifications
@qwertyuiop I can see vibration intensity control for notifications. And a volume control for notifications too.
Or did you mean per-app?
 
qwertyuiop
qwertyuiop
@Bob Per app
 
Bob
Bob
Ahhhhhh
4
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
2:45 PM
I very much like to know what this person was smoking/snorting/injecting
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
to google everything is fair use , fair to Redirect, cache, collect, distribute , and stuff ads on. google is biggest pirate and spammer on the whole web, and We Love it :-)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Oh, this literally is fair use
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
Speaking of re-direct, there actually were laws and mutterings about what is legal to link web sites, some countries disagreed on things. Like deep linking vrses front page lining etc, and the ramifications of one site using (linking) to only the best part of another.
 
qwertyuiop
qwertyuiop
pron
I link pron
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
3:01 PM
there was also a big to-do about google cacheing everything. making google the "source" for other peoples works. google cache was much more visable then. Why visit some poor saps site who worked hard to deliver great materials if you can just view the cache .
and the employees at google are treated like KINGS , while the lonely web site, the balancer of power, the all people are equal on the web, are slaves to this master, begging for the 5cents from thier invasive ads.
Google owns us all, and thier self driving death machines will be allowed free reign to the roads, even if thier driving record is worse than yours, because the stats will say (average) the bots are better.
Heck they dont even pay taxes :-) rob from the poor give to me, Google is a huge california economy.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
You're ranting
pretty incoherently I might add
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
ahh ye shall see
history only repeats badly
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
o/
 
qwertyuiop
qwertyuiop
\o
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
/o
 
qwertyuiop
qwertyuiop
3:16 PM
!!caaaat
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
 
Anonymous
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere 2 780s in SLI are more powerful than a single 780, making it more VR compatible/ready
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@onebree have you actually tested it with an Oculus Rift?
(I'm not actually interested as I'll be buying a 1080 but I'd be wary of making such a claim without actually testing it)
 
Anonymous
Tested via benchmarking and other software. Not with a physical device though
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@JourneymanGeek "this person" was one of Oracle's lawyers in one of the most ridiculous copyright cases of the 21st century, and she writes in a tone that suggests she is very much a sore loser, because she effectively failed to prosecute her client's apparent offender
eh - I'd sell it on eBay and just say there's no warranty or responsibility for damaged or non functional parts
eBay forces you to accept the terms of their "guarantee" which guarantees that whatever you represent the item as in your advertisement, is what it does when they get it, or they get their money back
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
3:27 PM
does anyone remember the 1997 Sun v microsoft suit?
 
Anonymous
Doesn't Ebay take 10% of the money for items over a certain amount?
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
so just say you're selling a bunch of computer parts or something, don't claim that it can actually do anything
 
Bob
Bob
Ooh, I'm on the starwall again! \o/
By stealing @JourneymanGeek's line :P
 
Anonymous
@allquixotic thank you for the advice. We will try to post a listing on ebay this weekend
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@onebree yeah, but you're likely to be able to get more and move it faster by exposing it to a larger audience
set a reasonably high Buy It Now price and a very low starting bid
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
3:31 PM
@onebree steam has a test thing if you don't mind testing for the vive.
no goggles needed
 
Anonymous
@JourneymanGeek that steam program was used.
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic If you do that, make sure either the starting bid is acceptable, or set an acceptable reserve.
Acceptable as in something you wouldn't feel too bad about if it went for that price.
 
Anonymous
@allquixotic What would you think is a good buy now and low price? He doesn't want to sell it for lower than $900 USD
 
Bob
Bob
...wait, what are you selling?
Oh, full computer.
I thought you wanted 900 USD just for GPUs :P
@allquixotic Have you used any SMR drives yet?
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@onebree I said use ebay yesterday ;)
22 hours ago, by DavidPostill
@onebree ebay?
 
Bob
Bob
3:38 PM
I'm trying to decide between an 8 TB (internal?) Seagate vs a 5 TB external Seagate drive.
Well, two of them.
The 8 TB is cheaper, but... SMR :\
 
Anonymous
@DavidPostill Thank you.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
SMR shouldn't be that much of an issue
 
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Reliability?
Packing data that densely... O_O
Hmm...
8 TB is 225 USD, 5 TB is 130 USD... hey, the 5 TB one is actually cheaper right now o.O
Never mind, I'll just get that :P
> It cooks breakfast too. :)
That's not a very promising review!
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@onebree can I get a full spec list?
do you have it somewhere online?
@Bob is my 8 TB Seagate internal ST8000DM0002 SMR? if so, yes
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic How is it? (write perf)
> Only the 10TB purple drive uses SMR. The rest are regular.
Hmm...
> I have used a bunch of the archive 8TB drives from seagate and wouldn't recommend them. They are soooooo slow.
> Are you sure? The 8TB Purple spec sheet that I looked at in March specifically mentioned SMR as if it was a good thing, and had a very clear workload/year rating that was around 175TB. I did the math and that was only about 11 months of Live TV buffer on a basic Roamio.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
3:54 PM
I have two in RAID-1 with MaxCache and ReadyBoost to insulate from their true performance so I don't actually know their actual perf
and these are the desktop model, not the archive model
 
Bob
Bob
Ah.
It's hard to find concrete info :\
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
I have two of those
 
Bob
Bob
Oh.
@allquixotic You had an extra 0 in that model number :P explains the (lack of) Google results
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
sorry
 
Anonymous
@allquixotic I will have to make a new list. I lost the other one.
 
Bob
Bob
3:57 PM
Yea... at $290, that's considerably more than the external HDD.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
erf
trying to walk my friend through installing a printer driver
I'm somewhat stumped
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
oddly they don't mention the RPM
@JourneymanGeek so you're on a leash and walking your owner human and barking at him to make him understand how to install it, but he's not understanding you?
 
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