Root Access

12:16 AM

this question asks for a hardware recommendation on SU. Migrate to Hardware Recommendations?

@BilfredKerman We don't migrate to betas, and we don't migrate questions that would not stand up on the target site. Just VTC->Off Topic->HW Recommendation (not the site)

Journeyman Geek

12:43 AM

Yup

2

youtube.com/watch?v=2o8MDCIlOEk this is beautiful in its ugliness.

Psycogeek

1:20 AM

look like something i modded in my garage

good thing is is AMA approved

Bob

1:38 AM

@JourneymanGeek What is it? [at work]

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: er... shitty windows XP tablet.

Marries a AMD geode based board with a badly made powerboard, and a ton of taped together AA batteries for power.

Bob

o.O

Michael Frank

Can't fix a macro error? Rebuild the entire workstation. Job done!

Zacharee1

@JourneymanGeek Oh God...

That looks like something made for a school project

The board at 3:15? I've seen people solder better on their first try

Journeyman Geek

1:55 AM

;p

Bob

Zacharee1

@Bob pls cen hev ubnut tuch on mah note

:p

Stupid Verizon and its lockdowns

@Bob Wait, I'm stupid. That's Android. Derp

Too used to being on AU

lol

@Bob is that the G4?

Yep

2:06 AM

@Bob so the battery doesn't seem that bad

At least, it seems to last longer than my Note when it's off :p

Hope @NathanOsman makes his userscript available on all SE chatrooms

Bob

Yea, standby is great. Problem is SOT for me :P

Zacharee1

hmm

What do you have brightness set to?

Bob

But I don't know if any phone does better without a giant battery

I have it on auto these days

Zacharee1

@Bob without a giant battery?

Oh wait, I see

OK

To be fair, the Note 4 has 3,220 mAh

allquixotic

Bob

2:18 AM

Was in direct sunlight earlier

allquixotic

I got that letter ^

Journeyman Geek

Oh dear

Michael Frank

@allquixotic That doesn't sound fun at all. :/

Bob

Oh, was your background investigation stolen? Here, have some identity monitoring!

Only three years too.

That sucks.

allquixotic

well at least I get a free Tri-Bureau Credit Report

those are fucking expensive if you want one normally

Zacharee1

2:28 AM

@Bob 5% drain while on, 10% while off?

Bob

@Zacharee1 only because I wasn't using it much this morning

Zacharee1

But the screen uses battery when it's off?

Bob

Oh, no, that measurement is overall usage while screen is on/off

Zacharee1

oh, ok

lol

Bob

@allquixotic o.O

HackToHell

2:43 AM

@allquixotic wtf

allquixotic

3:51 AM

@HackToHell the United States' credit monitoring agencies, TransUnion, Equifax and Experian, have a lot of data (provided to them by banks and other companies that give people lines of credit or bank accounts) on every US citizen, which can be used to help combat identity theft. However, there's a drawback. They won't lift a finger unless you pay them a substantial amount of money to help you.

They are for profit entities

HackToHell

4:54 AM

That sucks bad

HackToHell

5:18 AM

Aaaand a memory leak

Leathe

Origin isn't working as intended? How preposterous!

HackToHell

i don't think it's cause of origin, rammap shows a high kernel stack

Leathe

oh, it's WUDFHost that's leaking

wait no. what am I even looking at

HackToHell

No patience to debug

sigh

reboots

Leathe

huh.

arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/…

Bob

6:24 AM

This is awesome: cryptopals.com (cc @allquixotic)

allquixotic

6:38 AM

Anyone here have an Android tablet with a 1080p or better screen and live in a country with access to Amazon Video?

Bob

@allquixotic Nope and nope :(

Well, the tablet part is more of a :\

Did your cable arrive?

allquixotic

Nah not yet

Also that mediatek processor struggles mightily in its valiant effort to play the ultra high end card game, Hearthstone

It takes an age to load but eventually it does barely play

The same game that loads in a fraction of the time at better quality on a higher resolution screen on my iPhone

And probably with less energy usage considering how efficient the 16nm A9 is

Bob

@allquixotic MTK? I thought it was Qualcomm.

@allquixotic What are you trying to test?

> They [the keys] need to be the same for both encryption and decryption.

...well duh

(context is AES)

allquixotic

Fire HD 10 is MTK. Trying to see if Android devices can download Amazon video in at least 720p or whether they are stuck on SD

I THINK Amazon's app may limit you to SD only downloading on non-Amazon phones and tablets

Cryptopals looks interesting. I'll have to try it some time.

Bob

7:03 AM

@allquixotic does it have to be a tablet?

allquixotic

Hmm. My hunch is their app treats tablets and phones differently, so I'd prefer a tablet, since I have access to a phone I can do testing with.

HackToHell

8:00 AM

In the future, there will be JavaScript http://cube-drone.com/comics/c/relentless-persistence http://t.co/w7CFNo88h7

Tweeted by codinghorror on July 10, 2015 at 12:12 AM

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Alex Su

10:06 AM

Hello, can someone help me. I have a Mac that has a 750GB drive but the MacOS partition only has 100GB. Disk utility does not show the entire disk but the mac partition only. I am fixing this computer right now I've no idea what the previous owner did.

Leathe

how is the rest of the disk partitioned?

Journeyman Geek

@AlexSu a screenshot of disk utility might be shiny.

Alex Su

Hi all to post the screenshot I've raised a question, screenshot in link

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Q: Lost partition/disk on Mac OSX

Hello all I have a Mac that has this weird problem. It's a used Mac and I've no idea what the previous owner did. This Mac has a 750GB drive but the OSX partition only has 100GB. Disk utility doesn't recognize the entire disk so there's no way for me to resize the OSX parition. All I want is to p...

Journeyman Geek

:(

Its all in chinese.

I understand chinese even less than I understand macs.

Alex Su

lol

k, let me try to change the system's language

Journeyman Geek

10:19 AM

(windows/linux user mostly)

Alex Su

I will update the screenshot once I get this freaking old computer to reboot in the right language

Leathe

:-D

Alex Su

alright

screenshot updated

thanks guys

ive spent days trying to figure out the problems

with no avail...

Leathe

I wonder if you could use a bootable ubuntu image and try to format the remaining 650GB from there

if you have a usb lying around you could make it into a bootable drive, put a linux distro on it and see if you could access the remaining disk space

Alex Su

i will ty

but to my limited knowledge it is extremely hard to get a ubuntu dongle to boot from Mac, unless it is from a CD

Leathe

10:30 AM

hm

Alex Su

i remember seeing people discussing about this online

Leathe

ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx

Alex Su

it seems like Apple dislike the idea of booting into another OS from a usb

Leathe

yeah even that article says Mac tends to prefer a CD over USB

Alex Su

my colleague just happen to have a bootable ubuntu usb, i will ask him once he is back from lunch break

Leathe

10:32 AM

hm.

!!xkcd mac usb

ChatBot John Cavil

Comes with a 50-lb sack of gender changers, and also an add-on device with a voltage selector and a zillion circular center pin DC adapter tips so you can power any of those devices from the 90s.

Leathe

bah.

Alex Su

according to previous owner, he somehow tried to install windows onto his mac

and ended up like this

Leathe

oh dear

yeah, windows and mac dual boot... isn't really easy to pull off

Journeyman Geek

@AlexSu is there anything on the drive you need?

Leathe

10:35 AM

oh shit. gotta go to lunch before the place stops serving ->

Journeyman Geek

Off hand you could create an install USB (or even internet boot) and just blow the old drive away.

Alex Su

no, i dont need anything

i tried to blow the old drive away during OSX recovery

but that stupid disk utility doesnt recognize the entire drive

Journeyman Geek

hm

Alex Su

i can only blow away that 100GB partition

Journeyman Geek

Do you have a OS X install media?

Maybe blow away the whole drive with maybe a linux livecd?

(I'm guessing here)

Alex Su

10:39 AM

all Mac comes with recovery data, I could boot into the recovery data and initiate the re-installation process with no problem

the problem is with the partition

linux live CD might help

but it will take me some time to secure one

plus i've no idea if you could reformat the drive in a way that OSX would recognize it

i thought they used different partition scheme?

Oliver Salzburg

11:13 AM

I have never worked with SQL Server on this machine

It seems excessive, but okay

Journeyman Geek

@AlexSu the idea would be to remove all the partitions, then install off of some other device

Tetsujin

11:41 AM

@AlexSu - Booting/installing from USB might depend on what Mac it is. Machines that shipped with a SuperDrive are difficult to boot from USB. If you can't get Internet Recovery to play nice & completely nuke the partitions, you may be in for some CoreStorage surgery. More on that if you reach that point, or search out posts by klanomath in Ask Different He's the resident CoreStorage genius.

One advantage of Internet Recovery is it has a stripped down Safari in it, so you're not stuck with no Google

Bob

@OliverSalzburg I love how they installed 2012 after 2014.

Leathe

11:58 AM

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Q: The Passwords for a programs

How to protect installed package from using it without password or crypt-key in the Linux based system , Debian-like? How to setup password for a program , i.e. for a gammu - moblie phones / data cards interface for Linuxs , that only I can to use it , - maybe some encryption will helps?? I.e....

linux packages password-protection

lol'd @ "P.S I am not a badguy"

hmm. Edited 2 mins ago by @DavidPostill

how much worse did it look before the edit?

Journeyman Geek

My second monitor died.

Blah.

Blog bot

How to Be Awesome (Part 2)

Alex Warren on November 24, 2015

How do you describe yourself to potential employers? Many developers get this terribly wrong.

Journeyman Geek

And it came back to life o_o

DavidPostill

@Leathe I just fixed a typo in the title. The rest of it is just too unclear to fix :/

So I flagged it "unclear" ;)

Journeyman Geek

12:14 PM

Was crossposted on SF too

and yeah, tis a bit shit.

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek lol

Journeyman Geek

I think my second monitor's got a bad cap

boo

DavidPostill

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Q: How do I enable touchscreen in bochs?

I wanted my android tablet to work like a surface pro (using an x86 emulator, of course). I have done all the preparations, installed windows 8.1 on my c.img file, but, I just couldn't work out one thing. I wanted to enable touchscreen, or else the screen works like some sort of trackpad of a la...

windows-8 bochs

Are android tablet questions on-topic? Is this a grey area?

Leathe

well, they're not specifically said to be off-topic

then again, he is talking about bosch, which is a software for emulating a PC

if you removed the fact that it's an android tablet, the answer given should still be the same

DavidPostill

12:29 PM

@Leathe Android is off-topic ...

Leathe

imo that question still falls under software

of course android specific questions should go to Android Enthusiasts

HackToHell

1:03 PM

Historic Rocket Landing

►

The space race is on bitches \m/

Journeyman Geek

About damn time

HackToHell

It is, however, important to clear up the difference between "space" and "orbit", as described well by https://what-if.xkcd.com/58/

Tweeted by elonmusk on November 24, 2015 at 12:25 PM

Elon Musk is like we doing a harder thing, so you still suck orbital science :D

Journeyman Geek

1:22 PM

@HackToHell they did manage to land it. Also that looks oddly phallic.

That said, SpaceX does 4K videos. ;p

HackToHell

1:43 PM

@JourneymanGeek Ha, true enough, I though I was being immature. Talk about a space D

Bob

@JourneymanGeek It looks like one of my more basic KSP constructs

Bob

2:06 PM

@JourneymanGeek Recognise this? :P

HackToHell

lol, google just pointed me to this, guess who wrote the answer to it ;p superuser.com/questions/684795/easiest-way-to-backup-vps

Bob

o.O

I don't remember that at all!

Journeyman Geek

@Bob no. Tho that's a common style of bollard here.

Bob

> It's in boat quay, Singapore.

Journeyman Geek

Ahh

Bob

2:11 PM

=> reddit.com/r/lgg4/comments/3twzuq/the_little_red_dot

Journeyman Geek

Boat Quay

Not really my sorta area. ;p

qasdfdsaq

Your face has a bad cap

My face

Oops

Bob

o.O

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq heh, or a lose power cable. Its been running fine for a bit again

KDecker

2:38 PM

Ooo, didnt realize there was a SuperUser chat

Anyone willing to answer some questions I have about BIOS vs UEFI under a windows OS?

Journeyman Geek

>_>

grumbles about chat not getting enough love

Bob

@KDecker Sure.

allquixotic

lol

KDecker

So I have been having issues trying to install Win7 on a new PC I built

UEFI based motherboard

(Sorry I need to explain some background)

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek if chat got more love, it would be as busy as javascript chat on chat.SO, which would be bad

imagine 1000 Recycle Bins

KDecker

2:41 PM

I created a bootable USB with Rufus which gave me two options "USB" and "UEFI" boot. I can easily boot to the USB option and enter the windows 7 setup, though I cann enter to the setup via the UEFI option

allquixotic

sure, we'd have 10 Bobs and 3 JourneymanGeeks and 20 allquixotices, but we'd also have 1000 Recycle Bins

Bob

@allquixotic We need more JourneymanGeeks (JourneymenGeek?)

allquixotic

yes, yes we do

*cue 10 separate people replying with ";p"*

KDecker

I guess my question is, why did Rufus create two boot options "USB" and "UEFI" and why can't my UEFI motehrboard boot into the UEFI option? I assume this is because windows 7 cannot boot to UEFI?

Bob

@KDecker Well, that assumption is wrong :P

Hm. Desktop machine? 64-bit Windows?

KDecker

2:43 PM

Yeah desktop 64 bit

Bob

Just wanna rule out 32-bit firmware (or OS) incompatibility first. 64-bit Windows does not like the 32-bit firmware on cheap tablets...

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic one of me would probably wear out my mouse suspending them

@KDecker do you have CSM turned on?

allquixotic

what are you trying to do with Rufus?

KDecker

CSM? Compatability Support Managment...?

Journeyman Geek

da. AKA 'oldschool' boot iirc.

KDecker

2:44 PM

@allquixotic I am trying to install Win7 onto a NVMe drive ...

Bob

@KDecker Compatibility Support Module. Often labelled as "BIOS support" or "Legacy Boot" in the firmware settings.

KDecker

Here wait I made a forum post with the entire issue.

Bob

@KDecker Ohhhh boy.

Journeyman Geek

@KDecker does win7 even support NVMe?

(probably not)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Not natively.

There's drivers for it but I'm not sure you can boot from it.

KDecker

2:44 PM

No it doesn't.. You have to install a driver in the setup

Which I also am having issues with.

Bob

Anyway, that shouldn't affect booting from the flash drive.

allquixotic

@KDecker CSM is a component of most good UEFI implementations that basically exposes an interface like the old pre-UEFI BIOS to operating systems

Bob

I've not used Rufus before, though. Still doing optical media installs :P

Journeyman Geek

@KDecker you probably don't want to use it (but you should) but does windows 10 work?

rufus works fine on windows 7,8 and 10, tho my windows 7 installs have been on oldschool bioses

KDecker

Here is the entire problem I am having tomshardware.com/answers/id-2871768/…

Bob

2:46 PM

@KDecker When you say it doesn't work, what exactly are the symptoms?

allquixotic

I'd say if Windows 10 installs, use it and don't ask questions... if you don't like the UI, install Classic Shell or Start10... I wouldn't bother with Windows 7 at this point unless you have some kind of a business mandate to use it

Bob

What happens when you try to boot from it?

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic @KDecker also rules out rufus being at fault

Bob

I'm assuming you've gone to the boot menu and selected the removable disk from there?

KDecker

@Bob Yes Win8 and above from what I can tell should work out of the box

Journeyman Geek

2:47 PM

hm. Does windows 7 do UEFI boots?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Yes.

Journeyman Geek

Its kinda on the border, and I assume so...

Bob

Vista did too, IIRC.

KDecker

@Bob I can boot from the "USB" option but not the "UEFI". If I select the "UEFI" option in the boot override I am taken isntantly back to the UEFI on the MOBO.

allquixotic

Also, certain buggy UEFI implementations (especially older ones and/or laptops) have issues booting UEFI from any removable drives; there are quite a few UEFI impls I've used that can only boot UEFI from a local, fixed disk

Bob

2:47 PM

@KDecker Can you provide a photo of the boot options?

@allquixotic OVH? LOL

KDecker

@Bob Not at this time, currently at work

allquixotic

@Bob and, surprisingly, my Haswell NUC.

Bob

@allquixotic Does that include booting from actual single-partition removable devices, or just removable devices with an ESP?

allquixotic

the best UEFI impl I've used so far was on the Lenovo T530 (Ivy Bridge) - the configuration utility looks like it's from 1985, but functionality-wise it's spot-on

Bob

@KDecker I'd like to see what exactly the USB and UEFI options say.

DavidPostill

2:49 PM

@KDecker What's wrong with creating a real question on SU? You will get many more eyeballs on the question. There's only 10 or so regulars on this chat ...

allquixotic

@Bob ESP on a removable device, I believe

@DavidPostill actually I'd say this is a terrible candidate for an actual question

KDecker

@Bob Will you be on later tonight (Im in EST)

Bob

@KDecker ...I'm AEST. It's almost 2 AM here :P

KDecker

@DavidPostill I have but the question is so large it doesnt really make sense. Its also much easier to do back anf fourth in a chat.

allquixotic

many problems abound if he were to ask a Q: first, he doesn't really know what he's doing, so he's likely to get terminology wrong and confuse potential answerers. secondly, many people have no idea about UEFI, so they will give misleading information without knowing it. third, this kind of problem requires a lot of back and forth

^

Bob

2:50 PM

@allquixotic Yup, generally back-and-forth troubleshooting questions aren't a good fit for Q&A

Journeyman Geek

Oh, I think it might be a question/answer once we've bashed it out

KDecker

@Bob lol what about 9AM your time lol? Thats 6pm for me

Bob

@KDecker Also, do you know what firmware version you're running?

allquixotic

Bob is nocturnal

you might find him around at 8 or 9pm EST

Bob

=> asrock.com/mb/Intel/X99%20Extreme4/?cat=Download&os=BIOS no updates relating to boot, but there are a few NVMe support updates you might want to have anyway

allquixotic

2:52 PM

I won't be here after work (I'm also EST) because I have an event to run in SWTOR

Bob

@KDecker I'll be at work then, so I'll probably drop by. But there's lots of other active people here.

And if you ping me I'll see it anyway.

KDecker

@Bob thats what I was going to do later tonight. Try to update the firmware. I forget my exact version but IIRC it is much lower than what is current

Journeyman Geek

(also, chat is semi asyncronous. If you know exactly who and what to ask, ping em, just not too often)

@KDecker update all the things!

Bob

@allquixotic Yea, that seems like a rare-ish use-case. But a single-partition removable device is the de facto standard installation method now.

allquixotic

!! s/not //

ChatBot John Cavil

2:53 PM

@allquixotic (also, chat is semi asyncronous. If you know exactly who and what to ask, ping em, just too often) (source)

allquixotic

:D

KDecker

Yeah another option I was having is that the MOBO does not recognize the M.2 card

It sees it as a boot option

allquixotic

!!should we ping Bob incessantly at 4 and 5 AM his time?

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic All signs point to yes

KDecker

but when I view the M.2 slot is says No Device Installed

Bob

2:53 PM

O_O

allquixotic

It's settled, then

Bob

Bad bot!

swats with newspaper

qasdfdsaq

@allquixotic o_0

KDecker

Ok Thank you all very much! This has been kind of helpful, though again I do not know the terminology very well.

So my question are a little off.

Bob

@KDecker That could just refer to the lack of an ESP. Or your firmware version could be old enough that NVMe isn't supported at all.

KDecker

2:54 PM

But I will try to update all the firmware I can and try again.

allquixotic

We aim to kind of please ;-)

KDecker

What is ESP?

Journeyman Geek

Oh

Bob

@KDecker EFI System Partition. Basically the boot partition with UEFI.

KDecker

Ahh

Journeyman Geek

2:55 PM

there's also different flavours of M.2

allquixotic

Cherry, Vanilla, Chocolate, 'Red', ....

Journeyman Geek

Best to check if yours actually does the PCI style one rather than just the sata one.

KDecker

@Bob in my User Manual for the MOBO it only lists 1 Samsung M.2 that is "supported" on the site it lists 2 more but none are my model

Bob

@JourneymanGeek That's what NVMe is (as opposed to AHCI), innit?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: NVMe is a protocol

qasdfdsaq

2:56 PM

@allquixotic Your face is a terrible candidate for an actual question

KDecker

I got the Samsung 950 Pro NVMe uses PCI 3.0 x4

Journeyman Geek

M2 is a physical specification with varients that are purely sata

Bob

@KDecker Wait, you're the one that posted this question? :P

qasdfdsaq

@allquixotic o_0

KDecker

Ok I have to go guys. I will be on later tonight if youre willing to help!

and yes ^

Bob

2:57 PM

@JourneymanGeek Ya, I'm saying "PCI style one" is NVMe. Or is it? shrug never dealt with M.2 before.

KDecker

Ohh @Bob you responded to it! I didnt even realize that!

Ok bye guys

Thanks again

allquixotic

ooh... shiny... 950 Pro... do want... but I don't have an NVMe mobo yet, so that'll have to wait

Bob

I have entirely too much experience with UEFI on servers, though. Far more than I want.

qasdfdsaq

@JourneymanGeek An NVMe drive shouldn't fit in an M.2 slot that is purely SATA

@allquixotic I do I do! I have multiple NVMe+SATAe+RAID ports all over but nothing to put in them :(

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq shows how little I know

Bob

2:59 PM

Oh wait they do AHCI over PCIe too. ookay.

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